December 2000 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: IBM Uses Keystroke-monitoring in NJ Mob Case (was Re: BNA'sInternet Law News (ILN) - 12/5/00)
by R. A. Hettinga 12 Dec '00

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by Prasad, Sreenivasa 12 Dec '00

12 Dec '00

Hi, I have a query wrt 'file' command in unix. When I give the following command the following information is displayed. # file /usr/bin/ABSgtar /usr/bin/ABSgtar: COFF format alpha dynamically linked, demand paged executable or object module not stripped - Version 3.13-12. My question is what is this version number ? I am sure this is not the version of the file in SCCS/RCS. Thanks and Regards, V.Sreenivasa Prasad. Digital Equipment India Limited, 93 A, Industrial Suburb, Yeshwanthpur II Stage, Bangalore - 560 022 India. Phone (O): +91-080-3374785 Ext: 2860 Fax : +91-080-3371498 Email: sreenivasa.prasad(a)digital.com vs_p(a)hotmail.com

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re: hi
by Jim Choate 12 Dec '00

12 Dec '00

toad.com is technicaly deprecated and any current subscribers should move to one of the alternate servers. The vast majority of discussion does not get sent to toad.com. There are currently seven servers to choose from. One server homepage at, http://einstein.ssz.com/cdr/index.html The current list is focused on cryptography, civil liberties, and economics. There is quite a bit of secondary chatter on a variety of topics. Sending viruses, suggesting the list be closed to non-members, subscribing the list to various sources of spam, asking for bomb info, and porno being the most popular off-topic topics. The most asked question is probably "How the hell do I get off this list?" or more accurately 'unsuvscribe'. ____________________________________________________________________ Before a larger group can see the virtue of an idea, a smaller group must first understand it. "Stranger Suns" George Zebrowski The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- -------------------------------------------------------------------- On Wed, 6 Dec 2000, Islam M. Guemey wrote: > What kind of fucking mailing list is this? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "IT IS SHOOOSH" <soosha0j03(a)yahoo.com> > To: <cypherpunks(a)toad.com> > Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 7:02 PM > Subject: hi > > > > Daer Reciever... > > i am a stuend in an American University... > > and i am taking a public speaking course... > > i have this week to give a persuasive speech (my final > > speech)...i thought of doing it about persuading my > > audience that seatbelts are not safe as we > > thought...there is a stydu done recently in England > > that showed that... > > > > i dont know,,is it a good topic,,or can u give me more > > > > thank you > > Rasha > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. > > http://shopping.yahoo.com/ > > >

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Re: Questions of size...
by Ken Brown 12 Dec '00

12 Dec '00

Jim Choate wrote: > The behaviour of the leading proponents of crypto-anarchy when faced with > 'non-compliant' behaviour is clear evidence of why the philosophy doesn't > work. Hang about! No-one has shot at you, confiscated your computer, tried to block or bomb your nodes, sued you, complained to any government officials about you, or written any nasty letters to your mother. All that has happened is some complaints. You can carry on doing what you want, if you want to put up with others having a lower opinion of you. They can carry on doing what they want & if their opinion gets low enough they can ignore you. If anything this is evidence that anarchy does work, at least in the limited-harm domain of a mailing list. Any functioning political anarchy would have to have more local, personal social sanctions on behaviour than an authoritarian society, not less. More one-to-one sanctions, peer-to-peer political interaction, (RAH might have called it a geodesic political culture if he hadn't got this strange Marxist idea that politics is just an emergent property of economics :-) A state society can rely on one-to-many flows of political or social pressure, the government & big business can deal with people as the masses. A natural outgrowth of the one-to-many techniques of cheap mass communications (OK, maybe Hettinga is right after all). The cypherpunks list is a sandpit of many-to-many communications, a realm in which anarchy is the natural, technologically favoured, form of social control. And complaining about the behaviour of others is exactly the sort of social control you'd expect to see happening in an anarchy. Anarchy is a great way to organise mailing lists, peasant villages, and regular evenings at the pub. Maybe it's a great way to organise large-scale industrial societies as well, it remains to be seen. But anarchy doesn't have to mean nobody tells you what to do - it just means that no one person (natural person like a king, or corporate person, like a state) tells everybody else what to do. In anarchy everyone is free to tell you what to do, and you are free to ignore them. Until you piss them off once too often of course... Ken Brown (wow! an on-topic post for once!)

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