November 2000 - cypherpunks-legacy

CDR: Re: Courts interfering with election
by George＠orwellian.org 08 Nov '00

08 Nov '00

TimMay Moroned: # Ah, yes, so we extend the hours in a liberal welfare mecca because # Latisha Shabombaweka wasn't properly registered at 10 IN THE MORNING. You are clearly a racist. You need cooking in a large pot. ;-)

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CDR: Courts interfering with election
by Tim May 08 Nov '00

08 Nov '00

I thought I was jaded, but this is too much even for me to believe. A judge in St. Louis has ordered the polls kept open later, until 10 pm local time. The effect will be to let more inner city, Democrat-leaning voters vote. The rural and suburban polling places will close at the normal times. Whew. Democrats are elated that more of their supporters will be able to vote in the extra hours. A similar measure was turned down in another state (Kansas?). Democrats in other urban areas are hustling to see if they can get their own bought judges involved in the process. A stunning theft of the election. If these "late Democrats" turn out to be the margin of victory, this will energize the anger of the Republicans. Amazing. --Tim May -- ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, ComSec 3DES: 831-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, "Cyphernomicon" | black markets, collapse of governments.

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CDR: Weather [was: RE: Well, that's over. Heads up, America!]
by Trei, Peter 08 Nov '00

08 Nov '00

> Ken Brown[SMTP:k.brown@ccs.bbk.ac.uk] wrote: > > OK you folks on the downwind side of the Atlantic, now your election is > over (even if you won't know the result for 3 weeks yet), can you take > your weather back? We've had a month of egregious rain and floods over > here and I'm sure it has to be your fault somehow. 5 tornadoes in Sussex > (my home county) one of them even killed people. These things just don't > happen in England. It must be the Americans fault. Somehow. It wasn't > like this in my day... [...] > Ken Brown [...] I once heard a European pundit observe that Americans seem normal most of the time, but every now and then something surfaces to make it clear just how alien they actually are. The example he gave was the American obsession with weather. In Europe, talk about the weather is just conversational padding; noise of no serious consequence to fill an otherwise awkward silences. Americans, on the other hand, MEAN IT when they talk about the weather. They sit up and pay attention when forecasts appear. All US cable systems carry a channel which broadcasts nothing except weather reports, 24x7 - a notion which seems as bizarre to Europeans as would a channel for watching the grass grow. He surmised that this is due to the fact that in the US, unlike Europe, bad weather can kill you. [And even if it doesn't kill you, it can sure as hell play havoc with your day. I've had over 2 feet of snow overnight at my house, while 10 miles away there was just rain. Mark Twain once gave a speech about the New England weather: http://marktwain.about.com/arts/marktwain/library/speeches/bl_weather.htm It's worth a look. ] Peter Trei

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CDR: SLA suspect gives cops' names, addresses on website, gets bail
by R. A. Hettinga 08 Nov '00

08 Nov '00

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CDR: RV WEBSITE
by major＠oh.verio.com 08 Nov '00

08 Nov '00

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ANNOUNCE: Cypherpunks Mtg, STANFORD 11/11/00
by Bill Stewart 08 Nov '00

08 Nov '00

Online version: http://www.cryptorights.org/cypherpunks/meetingpunks.html SF Bay Area Cypherpunks November 11, 2000 Events: Sat 11 November 1:00 - 5:00 PM Stanford University Campus - Tressider Union courtyard Agenda - Open Discussion Rodney Thayer will be talking about Metricom modems Ben Laurie may be in town, depending on transportation FreeSWAN 1.7 was just released. Oh, yeah, Bush\\\Gore\\\Bush\\\\Nader was elected :-) Location Info: The meeting location will be familiar to those who've been to our outdoor meetings before, but for those who haven't been, it's on the Stanford University campus, at the tables outside Tressider Union, at the end of Santa Theresa, just west of Dinkelspiel Auditorium. We meet at the tables on the west side of the building, inside the horseshoe "U" formed by Tresidder. Ask anyone on campus where Tressider is and they'll help you find it. If the weather is bad, we'll meet inside. Food and beverages are available at the cafe inside Tresidder. Location Maps: Stanford Campus (overview, Tresidder highlighted). http://www.stanford.edu/home/map/search_map.html?keyword=&ACADEMIC=Tresidder +Union Tressider Union (zoomed detail view). http://www.stanford.edu/home/map/stanford_zoom_map.html?234,312 Printable Stanford Map (407k). http://www.stanford.edu/home/visitors/campus_map.pdf [ This announcement sent to the following mailing lists: cypherpunks-announce(a)toad.com, meetingpunks(a)cryptorights.org, cypherpunks-request(a)cyberpass.net, cryptography-request(a)c2.net Mailing list complaints or address corrections to bill.stewart(a)pobox.com. ] Thanks! Bill Bill Stewart, bill.stewart(a)pobox.com PGP Fingerprint D454 E202 CBC8 40BF 3C85 B884 0ABE 4639 Thanks! Bill Bill Stewart, bill.stewart(a)pobox.com PGP Fingerprint D454 E202 CBC8 40BF 3C85 B884 0ABE 4639

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CDR: Re: Courts interfering with election
by George＠Orwellian.Org 08 Nov '00

08 Nov '00

TimMay Moroned: # Having the courts extend the hours so that more inner city mutants # can stagger down to the polls is inexcusable. Why are you referring to people you don't know as mutants? TimMay Moroned: # I expect "The polling hours are 7 a.m. to 8 p.m." to be upheld. # People arrange their schedules accordingly. If they work hours such # that they cannot be at the polling places during these hours, they # obtain absentee ballots. Or they take personal time off of work. Or # they go in an hour later. Etc. Well, let's see if there's a perfectly valid reason for the extension: http://www.foxnews.com/election_night/states/mo/hours.sml # Mahina Nightsage, 41, said she attempted to vote at 10 a.m. but # was told by an election judge that she was not registered for # that polling place. Nightsage said she arrived at the board's # downtown office by 12:30 and by 3:15 p.m. had not yet been able # to vote. # # "That is too much of a burden for anyone to exercise their # constitutional right to vote," Nightsage said. Yep. If you couldn't vote, you'd be ballistic about that too. Gore wins, ha! Tax May's lilly-white ass to the bone!

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CDR: Re: Courts interfering with election
by George＠orwellian.org 08 Nov '00

08 Nov '00

And here's the details...the move is allowed under state law. Once example was someone who tried to vote at starting at 10AM but couldn't. http://www.foxnews.com/election_night/states/mo/hours.sml # # Judge Extends St. Louis Polling Hours Tuesday, November 7, 2000 # # ST. LOUIS - A circuit court judge ordered Tuesday evening that # polls in St. Louis be kept open until 10 p.m. Central time, three # extra hours, due to long lines, a shortage of judges and a lack # of booths, ballots and other equipment. # # The judge ruled on a petition filed by Democratic Congressional # candidate William Lacy Clay, who cited that voters have not been # able to get in to the polls, and have frequently been finding # they are not on the voting lists. # # Joining in filing the petition were the Missouri Democratic # Committee and the Gore-Lieberman campaign. # # Judge Evelyn M. Baker ruled in favor of the petitioners because # of an especially heavy turnout. The Board of Election # Commissioners "failed to live up to its duty to the voters of # the city," Baker said. # # Under the emergency order issued less than an hour before the # polls were to have closed, the election board was to be kept # open until 11:59 p.m. # # Lawyers for Republican presidential candidate George W. Bush # were unsuccessful in having the case heard in federal court. # Moments after Baker's ruling, a U.S. District Judge declined # to hear the case, saying it was a state issue. # # The Board of Election Commissioners planned to file an immediate # appeal. # # Jim Grebing, a spokesman for Secretary of State Bekki Cook, said # the office had learned of the judge's order through the news # media. # # But Grebing said that the move is allowed under Missouri election # law. # # "We were surprised, we didn't know anything about it," Grebing # said. "But they didn't have to go through us, and we weren't # consulted about it." # # The petition charged that numerous city voters were unable to # vote. Lawyers for the plaintiffs said irregularities at the polls, # including the inability of judges to verify voter registration, # set numerous voters on a path taking several hours to confirm. # # Voters whose registration was not on record at their polling # places had to travel to the board's downtown office where several # hundred people waited up to three hours to confirm their # registration. # # Mahina Nightsage, 41, said she attempted to vote at 10 a.m. but # was told by an election judge that she was not registered for # that polling place. Nightsage said she arrived at the board's # downtown office by 12:30 and by 3:15 p.m. had not yet been able # to vote. # # "That is too much of a burden for anyone to exercise their # constitutional right to vote," Nightsage said. # # Nightsage said she spoke to many other frustrated voters at the # board's office, some of whom left without voting. # # The petitioners presented several affidavits from voters with # similar stories. # # An attorney for the Bush-Cheney campaign asked that the suit # be removed to federal court because federal offices were at stake. # # Kevin Coan, the Republican director of elections for the board, # said election procedures were no different from any other. Coan # said he knew of no one whose right to vote had been denied. # # Coan said much of the confusion may have rested with people who # did not register in time to vote, yet showed up expecting to # be able to cast a ballot. # # "I doubt they have any idea what the election laws of this state # are," Coan said. TimMay was entirely silent on why he objects to this time extension.

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CDR: Hey ....
by cindy43 08 Nov '00

08 Nov '00

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CDR: Re: election
by Anonymous 08 Nov '00

08 Nov '00

> The women in Michigan did it, the women in Penn. did it, > the women in Fla. did it. Wake up punks, it's the wimmens. > They rule. > MacN They need raping.

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