October 2000 - cypherpunks-legacy

CDR: WPI Cryptoseminar, Wed, Oct 25
by R. A. Hettinga 23 Oct '00

23 Oct '00

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CDR: Re: why should it be trusted?
by matthew gream 23 Oct '00

23 Oct '00

Nathan Saper wrote: >>and Sambo A. S. seem to miss, is that increased costs for a few mean >>*savings* for everyone else. > >The costs for the few would rise much more than the savings for the >many. Therefore, the number of people with genetic abnormalities who >could not afford insurance would rise, while the number of genetically >normal people who could afford insurance would not be altered >drastically. Isn't this one of the key points of the whole issue: where does the balance lie ? One the one hand, individuals should have the freedom to live as they please, so long as it does not affect (too much) the way other people choose to live. If you desire to live an unhealthy lifestyle, that is fine, so long as you live with the consequences - i.e. higher insurance premiums. I choose to live a healthy lifestyle, therefore I would expect to pay less in insurance premiums. On the other hand, I do not mind cross subsidising the rest of society to a certain extent, in order to stop everything falling apart, and to generally know that there is some safety for "my way of life", and to enjoy some common things for everyone. Certainly, I find it irritating that I should pay excessive costs to support a health care system that largely caters to supporting the many people that have chosen to drink or live their way to an unhealthy later life. Though, I am not sure I want to deny these people treatment because of the social carnage and damage to humanity it will cause, and perhaps twenty years ago, people were less enlightened about the possibility of making these choices. So perhaps the thing is - how do you list all the pros and cons and costs and everything else, then find an acceptable balance that is liberal "user pays", but has a safety net (i.e. you will not suffer, but you probably won't have a high quality life). Best regards, Matthew. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

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23 Oct '00

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CDR: Confirm your new account with eGroups
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23 Oct '00

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23 Oct '00

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CDR: Privacy Debate at the Commonwealth Club in SF (fwd)
by Nomen Nescio 23 Oct '00

23 Oct '00

[Fwd] For anyone in the SF Bay Area who is even mildly interested in the privacy discussion, I highly recommend that you attend a public affairs-style discussion on Internet privacy to be held at The Commonwealth Club on Thursday, October 26, from 5:15 -- 7:15pm. The discussion will be moderated by John Markoff of The New York Times. Panelists include: Bob Lewin, President and CEO of TRUSTe; Marc Rotenberg, Exec. Dir. of EPIC; FTC Commissioner Mozelle Thompson; and Chris Kelly, Chief Privacy Officer for Excite@Home. Together, the panel represents the five points that are driving the privacy discussion: the media, self-regulation, government, industry, and advocacy. Let's see if they can agree on anything. Go to The Commonwealth Club site (www.commonwealthclub.org) for ticket information... See you there.

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22 Oct '00

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CDR: Re: why should it be trusted? (insurance)
by A. Melon 22 Oct '00

22 Oct '00

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CDR: H-WEB: G Radnitzky on Hayek & libertarianism
by R. A. Hettinga 22 Oct '00

22 Oct '00

This is a really good article which has a bunch of interesting things to say on it's way to saying that Hayek didn't go far enough, but it wasn't his fault. :-). For instance, how we ended up with nation-states (taxation is their only reason for existence) and legislation (the use of taxation for redistribution of assets by force in order to maintain social control), and why political solutions to political power end up squaring the circle, as it were. Of course, he talks about "law as the force which allocates property rights", and most cypherpunks would dispute that, knowing of better, cryptographic ways of allocating control of property. Cheers, RAH --- begin forwarded text

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by info＠ecoworld.com 22 Oct '00

22 Oct '00

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