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Re: WaPo on Crypto-Genie
by pjn＠nworks.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In> Why does it sounds like Mr. Freeh and his friends are drinking out of In> a different bottle than the rest of us? Why does it sound like they have been drinking period? <VBG> P.J. pjn(a)nworks.com ... He's not exactly working on all thrusters. - Mcoy ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 [NR]

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[noise] Re: WaPo on Crypto-Genie
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:59 PM 7/28/96 -0500, pjn(a)nworks.com wrote: > In> Why does it sounds like Mr. Freeh and his friends are drinking out of > In> a different bottle than the rest of us? > > Why does it sound like they have been drinking period? <VBG> I would guess it is either "Night Train", "Thunderbird", or one of those French wines with the anti-freeze added for extra "kick". --- Alan Olsen -- alano(a)teleport.com -- Contract Web Design & Instruction `finger -l alano(a)teleport.com` for PGP 2.6.2 key http://www.teleport.com/~alano/ "We had to destroy the Internet in order to save it." - Sen. Exon "Microsoft -- Nothing but NT promises."

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Terrorist voice recognition
by nobody＠vegas.gateway.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Does anyone else find it odd that the tape of the 911 call, threatening the terrorist bomb at the Olympic Park, still hasn't been released to the media? It would seem that there is at least a possibility that someone could know this person's voice and finger him for the feds... I have a [disturbing, hence anonymous] explanation: The feds figure they have already got a pool of people who can recognise the voice of a pipe-bomber, as sworn courtroom admissions show that the previous pipebombs' burial locations, supposedly known to "the Georgia Militia," were actually only known to a single government informant infiltrator. [The media, for some strange reason, didn't choose to report this little item. The militia case has now been delayed.] Hmmmmmmmm.

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Re: your favorite poison recipes
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:11 PM 7/28/96 -0700, anonymous-remailer(a)shell.portal.com wrote: >Please post your favorite poison recipes to this mlist. Why post them? Barnes and Noble bookstore will sell you good poison recipes in book form. (I found mine in the bargain section.) You can also find them in any good book on organic chemistry or in a bookstore that specializes in mysteries. Or you can just go to McDonalds and ask them what is in the hamburgers... (Of course, they will not tell you that it is made with troll meat.) --- |"Computers are Voodoo -- You just have to know where to stick the pins."| |"The moral PGP Diffie taught Zimmermann unites all| Disclaimer: | | mankind free in one-key-steganography-privacy!" | Ignore the man | |`finger -l alano(a)teleport.com` for PGP 2.6.2 key | behind the keyboard.| | http://www.teleport.com/~alano/ | alano(a)teleport.com |

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Re: Feinstein wants controls on forwards
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 01:11 PM 7/28/96 -0700, Alan Olsen wrote: Damn! Sorry! Forwarded it to the wrong alias in Eudora. (I knew I was going to fuck that up one of these days... Need more caffiene.) --- Alan Olsen -- alano(a)teleport.com -- Contract Web Design & Instruction `finger -l alano(a)teleport.com` for PGP 2.6.2 key http://www.teleport.com/~alano/ "We had to destroy the Internet in order to save it." - Sen. Exon "Microsoft -- Nothing but NT promises."

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Re: your favorite poison recipes
by Vinnie Moscaritolo 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Anonymous writes: >Please post your favorite poison recipes to this mlist. I'd have to say Federal Match in.308, Lead poisoning -- Long distance. martian Minow writes: > >Rare roast beef, baked potato with plenty of butter, red wine. > Martin; last time I checked you were a trickle down vegaterian too. Vinnie Moscaritolo ------------------ "friends come and friends go..but enemies accumulate." http://www.vmeng.com/vinnie/ Fingerprint: 4FA3298150E404F2782501876EA2146A

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Re: "privatizing" phones?
by David Rosoff 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- At 04.11 PM 7/26/96 -0700, Eric Murray wrote: >It's a 46mhz analog model, newer phones use frequencies >in the 900mhz range and/or digital encoding. >The 900mhz range is one of those 'blocked' in most newer radio >scanners, this is required by law as of a few years ago. >Many scanners can have some or all of the locked-out >ranges restored by suitable modification (i.e. removing >a resistor). Many of these mods are posted on the net. One of my friends has a Radio Shack scanner (the cat. # of which I do not recall) which does pick up the 900MHz range. We tried (unsuccessfully) to modify it according to an internet posting. I don't know how old it is. =============================================================================== David Rosoff (nihongo ga sukoshi dekiru) ---------------> drosoff(a)arc.unm.edu PGP public key 0xD37692F9 -----> finger drosoff(a)acoma.arc.unm.edu or keyservers 0xD37692F9 Key fingerprint = 25 7D AA 01 85 41 43 89 50 5A 33 76 F1 F1 99 67 Do you know who's reading your email? ---> http://www.arc.unm.edu/~drosoff/pgp/ Is it a forgery? --- I have PGP signed all email and news posts since May 1996. =============================================================================== "Relax. It's not a real alarm. They can't crack _Pentagon_ codes. Can they?" :p -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMfqQkRguzHDTdpL5AQFCuQP+ILE3NAbjEZ2p6d6WDIhoi9yNYafQOiSv u00hink6Ylz8pQGP1xhQ9Bsn5pLyrS9Mck/UJ4Qw6omJBrE2LkgNy5Du8xdkqlQu 9MZaVqPXYphnGdAJ+oORXhvSkI9G0qYZPJjByypMd4Da92vqmDogrdTJFKgK21vh OeTNyh8i+zQ= =55JX -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Twenty Bank Robbers -- CLARIFICATION
by James A. Donald 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 04:33 PM 7/25/96 -0700, Jeremey Barrett wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Assuming "perfect" intelligence on the part of the robbers (i.e. they will > follow deterministic behavior and do the "right" thing), then here's what > must happen IMO (1 being the first guy and 20 being the last): [...] > If 2 are left (19 & 20), 19 gets all the money. So 20 will vote for whatever > 18 says, which MUST include 20 in the deal. But here we run into the paradox, that it is not in each persons self interest to pursue is self interest. Example; Suppose only two are left: Then No. 19 get everything, and No. 20 gets nothing. So if only three are left, it will maximize 20's return to vote for a proposal by number 18, that number 18 gets 19,999,999 dollars, and number 20 gets one dollar But suppose that number 20 announces in advance that he considers an unequal division morally wrong, and will always vote against any unequal division. If this threat is credible, which it is, number 18 will have no choice but to propose an equal split, so number 20 now gets 6,666,666 dollars, instead of one dollar. Now if number 20 had threatened to vote against any proposal that did not split the money equally between himself, and number 18, thus going for ten million instead of six million, this threat would be less credible, and he would very likely have wound up with one dollar. This is a particular example of the various well known paradoxes of utilitarianism, that utility is maximized by a firm and credible promise to utterly disregard utility maximization. --------------------------------------------------------------------- | We have the right to defend ourselves | http://www.jim.com/jamesd/ and our property, because of the kind | of animals that we are. True law | James A. Donald derives from this right, not from the | arbitrary power of the state. | jamesd(a)echeque.com

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SET in Java
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 11:40:33 -0700 From: tedg(a)doppio.Eng.Sun.COM (Ted Goldstein) To: set-discuss(a)commerce.net, bjueneman(a)novell.com Subject: SET in Java Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-MD5: nhtCOgaiveb2ol2V4sPdow== Sender: owner-set-talk(a)commerce.NET Precedence: bulk +----------------------------------------------------+ Addressed to: set-discuss(a)commerce.net +----------------------------------------------------+ JavaSoft is developing a SET implementation as part of the Java Electronic Commerce Framework (http://java.sun.com/commerce) For more information, feel free to contact me. Thanks, Ted Goldstein Chief Java Commerce Officer, JavaSoft, Sun Microsystems Inc. (408) 343-1675 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This message was sent by set-discuss(a)commerce.net. For a complete listing of available commands, please send mail to 'majordomo(a)commerce.net' with 'help' (no quotations) contained within the body of your message. --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "'Bart Bucks' are not legal tender." -- Punishment, 100 times on a chalkboard, for Bart Simpson The e$ Home Page: http://www.vmeng.com/rah/

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Re: e$: The Demographic "Transaction" (was Re: Schelling Points...)
by Arun Mehta 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 15:09 28/07/96 -0400, Robert Hettinga wrote: > >He said there are many hypotheses about what causes this decline in >fertility, including the commonly held one that people make babies as a >form old age pension income :-) That's true: when the state does not provide old-age pension, that's the only alternative, and surely not a bad one. >He also said that the obvious things like public health and education were >good ways to increase life expectancy, but that the very best way to cause >this "demographic transition" was a dramatic increase in personal income. As I see it, having more children makes sound economic sense when you have child labor. You feed the child for 4-5 years, after which it contributes financially to the family for the rest of its short life. More stringent enforcement of anti child-labor legislation would help. Increase in life expectancy is also good, because then you need fewer children as insurance. The spread of the Internet, and the ability to post anonymously should help in exposing instances of violation of child-labor laws, and increasing outrage. Hopefully, it will also make it easier to spread literacy, which is arguably the best way to keep population down. I'd really like to know who this "he" is whom Robert is citing. Arun Mehta Phone +91-11-6841172, 6849103 amehta(a)cpsr.org http://www.cerfnet.com/~amehta/ finger amehta(a)cerfnet.com for public key

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