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DL in exchange for fingerprint
by Jeff Barber 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Oh joy. You no longer need to be arrested to get fingerprinted in Georgia. On the front page of Wednesday's Atlanta Journal, under the headline "Now you can get driver's license in minutes": The average 45-day wait to get a new driver's license in Georgia will be a thing of the past under a new system that will churn them out while customers wait. "From start to finish it takes about 10 minutes," said chief examiner ... in charge of the Georgia State Patrol's driver's license office in Milledgeville where the system went into effect on Tuesday. Previously, drivers received a temporary paper license that was good for 45 days. ... ... Officials at the Department of Public Safety plan to have the new computer system in 82 locations across the state by Oct. 1. Georgia is the 32nd state with the system. After an eye exam, the applicant presses a finger down on a pad that registers the fingerprint in a state-wide memory bank. Then, the examiner confirms the name, address, and identifying information. ... The licenses have a hologram of the word "Georgia" behind the driver's name, age and address, and a bar code on the back that contains a laser recording of the driver's index fingerprints. "We keep a memory bank that matches your fingerprints with your license," [DoPS spokesman] said. "In other words, if you went to get a new license with a false birth certificate and your fingerprint didn't match the name, you wouldn't get a license. And you could also face possible investigation for fraud from the Public Safety's investigative division." ... "I think it's wonderful," said Katherine Kidd, the first Milledgeville driver to get the instant license. "It's a great idea. Now we don't have to wait forever." [ End quote ] Just what I would have called it: a great idea. Is it true that 31 other states take your fingerprint as part of the license application? I feel sick. -- Jeff

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Paradox: NO OPPRESSION IN AMERICA
by Douglas B. Renner 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Those of you who took Logic 1001 will recall the paradox known as "The Heap" which goes like this: 1. A single grain of sand does not constitute a heap of sand. 2. You can create a heap from a non-heap by adding a single grain of sand. 3. Therefore, there is *NO SUCH THING* as a heap of sand. You with me here? Okay, this is important, because the public actually does think like this: 1. Our current society in America is not oppressive. (generally accepted) 2. You cannot change a non-oppressive society into an oppressive society by removing one liberty from its citizens. (also generally accepted) 3. Therefore, it is not possible for America to become an oppressive society. Sleep well, Douglas B. Renner

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Jena Remailer
by mixmaster＠remail.obscura.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

lutz(a)as-node.jena.thur.de wrote to All: >> Also, is there any other remailer (now that anon.penet.fi is down) >> that allows one to have an anonymous address to receive >> email? l> anon(a)as-node.jena.thur.de. But it's is bit tricky. The trickiest thing about it - by far - is the inscrutable English translation of the helpfile. I have been trying for over a week to make any sense of how to use the remailer. Granted, it works differently than the other pseudonymous remailers, but the helpfile is simply impenatrable. Like many translations, it is grammatical but makes no sense in spots. >From what I can make out, this is probably a very useful and innovative remailer that I should very much like to use. Can any native English speaker please paraphrase the account start-up procedure for us? Is mixmaster(a)as-node.jena.thur.de a standard T-1/T-2 remailer? Who has the key? Fingering this account doesn't work from West Coast USA. Thanks for any help...

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Re: CNET Digital Dispatch Vol. 2 No. 38
by Ryan Russell/SYBASE 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

EDS is a large company Perot used to own.. I worked for them for a short time...a very short time.. Ryan ---------- Previous Message ---------- To: cypherpunks cc: From: osborne @ gateway.grumman.com (Rick Osborne) @ smtp Date: 09/20/96 02:12:22 AM Subject: CNET Digital Dispatch Vol. 2 No. 38 This week's c|net digital dispatch had the following top ten list. For number 8, did they mean DES or is the EDS something I'm not aware of. I figure it has to be because what does DES have to do with chat rooms? >9. TOP TEN REASONS WHY THE PRESIDENTIAL DEBATES WON'T TAKE >PLACE ON THE WEB > >10. Kemp would fight with Dole over who gets to > "quarterback" the keyboard. >9. Oops: Gore plugged information superhighway cable > into White House central vacuum system. >8. Perot's crack team of EDS hackers would get him > in somehow. >7. Hotwired editors say presidential candidates not > hip enough. >6. Hillary doesn't let the President in ANY chat rooms. >5. Debate commission insists: event must be on Prodigy. >4. Bill Gates owns the rights to online debates. >3. Dole's Selectric won't connect to the Net. >2. Chelsea is using the White House PC to write a > book report. >1. In cyberspace, no one can feel your pain. ____________________________________________________________ Rick Osborne osborne(a)gateway.grumman.com "The universe doesn't give you any points for doing things that are easy."

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Re: DL in exchange for fingerprint
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 03:10 PM 9/19/96 -0700, Timothy C. May wrote: >At 9:13 PM 9/19/96, Gary Howland wrote: >>> Paraphrasing that famous quote, just which part of "not for identification" >>> don't they understand? >> >>Hmm - who are you paraphrasing here? (Just curious). > >"What part of "No" don't you understand?" > >and > >"What part of "Congress shall make no law" don't you understand?" The question as to Social Security numbers came up earlier today in a conversation off-list. Do any of the lawyer types that hang out here know the exact statutes as to use and misuse of Social Security numbers? My understanding (probably flawed) is that it is (or was) illegal for certain types of businesses to ask for SS numbers. Does anyone know what the actual laws regarding this are? Pointers to statute numbers would also be appreciated. Also, I noticed that the text "Not for Indentification" does not appear on later versions of the Social Security cards. (Comparing my card with my fathers showed some interesting differences. That text change was the most glaring.) --- Alan Olsen -- alano(a)teleport.com -- Contract Web Design & Instruction `finger -l alano(a)teleport.com` for PGP 2.6.2 key http://www.teleport.com/~alano/ "We had to destroy the Internet in order to save it." - Sen. Exon "Microsoft -- Nothing but NT promises."

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Re: ANYONES CREDIT CARD # per your request.
by David E. Smith 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com Date: Sat Sep 21 12:32:13 1996 > > > Note: Lexis-Nexis is only accepting written or fax requests. You > have the > > > option to fax your removal request to (513) 865-1930 state your full > name > > > and complete address. Or mail the request to: > > > Lexis-Nexis > > > Attn: P-Track > > > P.O. Box 933 > > > Dayton, Ohio > > > 45401-0933 According to the 800 number, you may also be removed from their database by sending a letter to p-trak(a)prod.lexis-nexis.com. You need to send your name and address, and probably your Citizen- Unit Social Insecurity Number. dave - ----- David E. Smith, P O Box 324, Cape Girardeau MO USA 63702 dsmith(a)prairienet.org http://www.prairienet.org/~dsmith send mail with subject of "send pgp-key" for my PGP public key "The world's at stake. Don't confuse me with details." -- Captain America, "Onslaught" ... famous last words -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBMkQmnzVTwUKWHSsJAQEClgf/XsSOwYPANaQBXVg+vq/Oh5qgqEMZtyxZ CVy45RYlulXWKMixmWMn7OkebSug53xVfQoBR5SlZ3oCXN+KlQm0bLI1MKiiO0nv SlRz35x6O2lkXXQcyBF1brrk++1uXRQRsKIACh/ceTdMkkTyUk+u0imRschGslqp L84BVvhi/VVASrCgmY5HbwkeeqNlzDUpa5uD9ST10G9UvCMrf6IexEOzvGvfCzmt CFOELYK6e8iiVkP8sPQgj+yQaP08LyezlYuSRu+GcZhr3QljCuOjUghjCIe/aoJk 7RRSiGC/GXGtO/Ut5pOiTOkWmaTPiHUsxnb4cX2lijLyI+jXy5K5qA== =vyc3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Quantum Computers
by James A. Donald 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 05:09 AM 9/18/96 -0400, Rick Osborne wrote: > I'm sorry if I seem to be making light of a very serious topic, but, last > time I checked, computers don't have a reverse. Quantum computers *do* have a reverse. Indeed even when operated in classical mode they *still* have a reverse. A quantum computer is a reversible computer operated at very high speed and very low energy. Reversible computers were invented before quantum computers. Reversible computer were invented in order to demonstrate that there was no lower limit to the energy required to perform certain computational tasks. Later people speculated, and very recently demonstrated that a reversible computer operated in the quantum regime could do things that no classical computer could do. --------------------------------------------------------------------- | We have the right to defend ourselves | http://www.jim.com/jamesd/ and our property, because of the kind | of animals that we are. True law | James A. Donald derives from this right, not from the | arbitrary power of the state. | jamesd(a)echeque.com

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CNET Digital Dispatch Vol. 2 No. 38
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The individual who posted the C-Net top ten missed the crypto-related parts of that issue. (I guess the humor section is all that people read on C-Net...) Here is what he missed... >Hook up your new system to the Net, and use it to remake >yourself. Get a virtual nose ring. Program your avatar with >all the attributes you wish you had. On the Internet, your >image is up to you. What will yours be? Read Editor-in-Chief >Christopher Barr's views on online identity: > >http://www.cnet.com/Content/Voices/Barr/091696/index.html > >Maybe you're not ready to share your identity. Maybe that's >the furthest thing from your mind. If you've got secrets to >keep, you need to know about Pretty Good Privacy, the de >facto encryption standard for email. Our tutorial will tell >you how to get PGP software and how to use it: > >http://www.cnet.com/Content/Features/Howto/Privacy/index.html > >Then be sure to read our update on mover and shaker Philip >Zimmerman, the guy who invented PGP: > >http://www.cnet.com/Content/Voices/Movers/zimmermann.html --- Alan Olsen -- alano(a)teleport.com -- Contract Web Design & Instruction `finger -l alano(a)teleport.com` for PGP 2.6.2 key http://www.teleport.com/~alano/ "We had to destroy the Internet in order to save it." - Sen. Exon "Microsoft -- Nothing but NT promises."

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USA_exe (Kiddie porn on the Net)
by jya＠pipeline.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Sep 21, 1996 16:19:53, 'jim bell <jimbell(a)pacifier.com>' wrote: >Pardon me, but what's wrong with this? Follow the news more closely, and >you'll hear of a group which is operating in southern Mexico, the "EPR," which >is killing off government employees, politicians, and police. True, they're >not implementing the mathematical, digital-cash basis behind AP, but they see >to be making good progress against the corruption which is Mexico. >Increase their productivity by a factor of 10, and the Mexican government would >be terrified. Increase it by 100, and the Mexican government would fall within >a few months. -------- Jim's makes a good, if gruesome, point here, about the vicious realities of do-or-die AP, by even our own apple pie government. The Washington Post reports at length today on the Defense Department's disclosure yesterday of heretofore classified trainging manuals used in the School of the Americas to instruct Latino troops on killing a wide range of civilians for political purposes. To read "Army Instructed Latins On Executions, Torture," about your tax dollars working the AP angle: http://jya.com/usaexe.txt USA_exe

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USA_exe (Kiddie porn on the Internet)
by jya＠pipeline.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Sep 21, 1996 16:19:53, 'jim bell <jimbell(a)pacifier.com>' wrote: >Pardon me, but what's wrong with this? Follow the news more closely, and >you'll hear of a group which is operating in southern Mexico, the "EPR," which >is killing off government employees, politicians, and police. True, they're >not implementing the mathematical, digital-cash basis behind AP, but they see >to be making good progress against the corruption which is Mexico. >Increase their productivity by a factor of 10, and the Mexican government would >be terrified. Increase it by 100, and the Mexican government would fall within >a few months. Jim's makes a good, if gruesome, point here, about the vicious realities of do-or-die AP, by even our own apple pie government. The Washington Post reports at length today on the Defense Department's disclosure yesterday of heretofore classified trainging manuals used in the School of the Americas to instruct Latino troops on killing a wide range of civilians for political purposes. To read "Army Instructed Latins On Executions, Torture," about your tax dollars working the AP angle: http://jya.com/usaexe.txt USA_exe

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