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RE: atheism (was: RE: Democracy... (fwd)) (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 11:06:26 +0200 (MEST) > From: Heinz-Juergen Keller <hjk(a)dip.de> > Subject: RE: atheism (was: RE: Democracy... (fwd)) (fwd) > > We're doing Boolean Algebra here not Algebra, the rules for transitory > > functions are different. > A natural language is *not* boolean. > It is a Peano-Algebra.(with some more restrictions) > [R.Montague: Universal Grammar] Irrelevant, we're analysing the truth or falsity of a statement, that is Boolean Algebra. ____________________________________________________________________ The seeker is a finder. Ancient Persian Proverb The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Peano Algebra and it's base theorem (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 10:02:23 -0500 > From: Mark Hahn <mhahn(a)tcbtech.com> > Subject: Re: Peano Algebra and it's base theorem > At 07:42 AM 9/22/98 -0500, Jim Choate wrote: > >Peano Algebra's are based on the following: > > > >If a unary predicate P holds for 0, and if P holds, together with an element > >x, also for it's succesor x', then P holds for all natural numbers. > > Didn't you over simplify this theorem somewhat. It's taken word for word from VNR. Send 'em a letter. The point is that we were discussing binary not integer mathematics. ____________________________________________________________________ The seeker is a finder. Ancient Persian Proverb The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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CTIA Daily News from WOW-COM - September 22, 1998
by CTIA Daily News 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

========================================== Welcome to today's edition of the CTIA Daily News from WOW-COM. Please click on the icon / attachment for the most important news in wireless communications today. Your company just formed a partnership in a country you never heard of. Are you worried about international roaming fraud? You should be. CTIA's Wireless Security '98 - It's Just Smart Business ORLANDO, FLORIDA · NOVEMBER 9 - 11, 1998 http://www.wow-com.com/professional/ Team WOW-COM wowcom(a)ctia.org ===========================================

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Re: Clinton's fake apologies (fwd)
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

on 20 Sep 1998 at 09:52:24 Reeza! wrote: > > At 09:21 PM 9/19/98 -0000, Anonymous wrote: > > > >What? To tell a lie is one thing, but ...[etc] > It was prefaced with "...to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing > but the truth...". > Straighten out your head, you seem to be a few neurons short of a > functional synapse. > > Reeza! I understand you think this is persuasive, but I don't understand why. and then at Sun, 20 Sep 1998 15:26:05 Reeza! wrote: > At 03:24 AM 9/20/98 -0000, Anonymous wrote: > > > >I agree it's bad. I agree it undermines the justice system a little bit. > >But, ... impeachment? > > > > I could care less if he had an affair, personally. But he had an affair > with a subordinate in his direct employ. [more] > I congratulate you for your defense of a person who demonstrably has broken > his marriage vows, his oath of public office, and purjured himself while > under an additional oath in a court of law. You do remember from 6 hours earlier that we're talking about lieing? Your raising other issues is irrelevant. You're building up the bogey man. [Jim Choate recently described this method as a "Strawman".] I suggested there are things Bill's done that are worse. Are you sure you're disagreeing? Do you have anything worthwhile to bring to the discussion? > You, too, are a few neurons short of a functional synapse. > > I suggest you discuss it with the maker. The best way is large caliber > bullet at sufficient velocity to penetrate and exit the cranial cavity. > > God speed, you fucking idiot. > I guess not. > Reeza! -- an anonymous aol32 user.

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Re: ArcotSign (was Re: Does security depend on hardware?)
by Mike Stay 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>>In that case please allow me to go back to a point raised by me >>previously. The user uses his 'remembered secret' (of fewer bits) >>through a public algorithm (including protocol) to retrieve from a >>pool the password (of more bits). If the attacker doesn't have the >>pool then everything looks fine. But if he manages to get the pool >>(a case someone mentioned in this thread) then he can obviously >>brute force offline, I believe, since he possesses now everything >>the legitimate user has, excepting the 'remembered secret'. Or is >>there anything wrong with my logic? > >Yes. There is something wrong with you logic. > >Bruce >********************************************************************** >Bruce Schneier, President, Counterpane Systems Phone: 612-823-1098 >101 E Minnehaha Parkway, Minneapolis, MN 55419 Fax: 612-823-1590 > Free crypto newsletter. See: http://www.counterpane.com According to the website, there's no pool of passwords. There's a truncated hash that will catch most mistakes, but is useless as a test criterion in a dictionary attack. If you get the user's "public" key, then you can do a dictionary attack. The user's "public" key isn't public, however; not even the user knows it. If I'm understanding it right, it's stored encrypted and the key is only given to a set of predefined servers. Prior relationship must exist; they admit that. -- Mike Stay Cryptographer / Programmer AccessData Corp. mailto:staym@accessdata.com

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Re: Stego-empty hard drives... (fwd)
by Brian B. Riley 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On 9/22/98 1:43 PM, Jim Choate (ravage(a)einstein.ssz.com) passed this wisdom: >Forwarded message: > >> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 11:07:34 -0500 >> From: Petro <petro(a)playboy.com> >> Subject: Re: Stego-empty hard drives... (fwd) > >> I don't know how hard this would be, but how about running a >> seperate memory check, and while those numbers are flashing on the screen, >> do the wait for imput? > >So hide the keyscan in the memory counter code. Would work externaly, would >probably not show up on TEMPEST. Since both the keyscan and the memory scan >are repetitive TEMPEST might have a problem telling them apart. Provided you >could get the keyscan in the same footprint as the mem check the BIOS >would not show up as anomolous in size. As long as they're not running >around doing checksums you'd be ok (I suspect). Don't most memory scans do a keyscan anyway? looking for an ESC to bypass the scan? So have it also check for something else to bring up your special routine. It should pass all but the most detailed signature analysis. Brian B. Riley --> http://members.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys <mailto:brianbr@together.net?subject=Get%20PGP%20Key> "Give a man a fish and you have fed him for a day, but give him a case of dynamite and soon the village will be showered with mud and seaweed and unidentifiable chunks of fish." -Joe Chew

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Re: Stego-empty hard drives... (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Subject: Re: Stego-empty hard drives... (fwd) > Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 18:04:28 -0400 > From: "Brian B. Riley" <brianbr(a)together.net> > Don't most memory scans do a keyscan anyway? looking for an ESC to > bypass the scan? Some do, some don't. A lot of new machines resolve those issues in the BIOS with a setting that allows you to choose between a couple of options at post. > So have it also check for something else to bring up > your special routine. It should pass all but the most detailed signature > analysis. Maybe, the fact that you've added an extra block of code in there to check for the additional keystroke would cause the cycle length of that section of ML to be slightly longer, probably no more than 30 - 40 clock cycles. If you're looking at the EM radiation that lengthening could show up. ____________________________________________________________________ The seeker is a finder. Ancient Persian Proverb The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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17 Dec '03

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respect due to anonymous (Re: CHALLENGE response (fwd)) (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 20:20:37 +0100 > From: Adam Back <aba(a)dcs.ex.ac.uk> > Subject: respect due to anonymous (Re: CHALLENGE response (fwd)) > Munge signatures!? He generated an RSA key pair to match the > pre-published signature based on generating primes of special form > and/or using multiple smaller primes to construct an n which he could > perform discrete logs in (plus a dead beef attack), and all you can > say is the above. You should take you hat off to anonymous. What he did is respectable. Is he the first? I doubt it. ____________________________________________________________________ The seeker is a finder. Ancient Persian Proverb The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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German court: DES is no good
by pgut001＠cs.auckland.ac.nz 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

http://www.thestandard.net/articles/display/0,1449,1780,00.html German Court Ruling Another Blow To U.S. Encryption Standard By Mary Lisbeth D'Amico MUNICH - A German district court has ordered a bank in Frankfurt to repay a customer 4,543 marks (US$2,699) for money withdrawn from her bank account after her bank card was stolen. The decision, made public Monday, again points to the holes in the 56-bit encryption technology used in Eurocheque cards, called EC Cards, according to the Chaos Computer Club, a German hackers group. Calling the encryption technology for the EC bank cards "out-of-date and not safe enough," a Frankfurt District Court held the bank responsible for the amount stolen from the 72-year old plaintiff in February 1997. Neither the bank's name or that of the plaintiff were revealed. An EC card is like a bank card which can be used at bank automats and point-of-sale terminals throughout Europe. The cards feature the U.S. government's data encryption standard, which uses 56-bit encrypted code to scramble the security information. [Rest snipped]

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