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No privacy with DigiCash
by Hal 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

One of the reasons we want http redirectors is so we could buy things anonymously. There is not much point in anonymous digital cash when your web connections advertise who you are. But, the current ecash implementation from DigiCash doesn't allow this to work! When you buy something, the vendor has to know your machine name because he wants to connect back to your ecash wallet process. So even if you did connect via a redirector, your anonymity would be destroyed (or at least badly hurt) when you tell it your machine name so it can connect to you. This is a really bad way of doing it IMO because it seems to defeat one of the big selling points of DigiCash. Is there something I am overlooking, some way to buy things privately with DigiCash? Hal

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by success＠network2.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: Breaking into girlfriend's files
by blancw＠pylon.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Responding to msg by Black Unicorn, who is having a bad hair day (and so close to Christmas!): "Had I encrypted with Norton encrypt? I would have been deserving of whatever attack ensued." Are the cypherpunks all of one mind regarding ideals and morality? Had I inquired of the list how I could break into my dearest one's privacy, I would have been deserving of whatever commentary ensued regarding the disgusting implications of that act. "Disgusting. Get off this list, you belong on alt.codependency.recovery, or alt.bleeding.liberal." (Say - isn't this why Tim left for a bit? Oh, well.) "I may disagree with you, but I will defend to the death your right to express your [sanctimonious] opinion." (or something like that). .. Blanc

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Re: Breaking into girlfriends files.
by klp＠epx.cis.umn.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Oddly enough, I'm on the other end of this situation right now with someone I know. The basic facts are this person keeps a journal, until recently on paper. Her husband got ahold of it and based on some stuff she had written decided to cause a big fuss (not really willing to go into the whole details, it's a loooong story). So she burned the journal, and was bummed that she could no longer keep one for fear of a repeat of the situation. Knowing she has a macintosh at home, I mentioned PGP to her, and am in the process of getting her set up with a copy. Of course I'm informing her of the limitations, and such, so that she can take precautions so that what she wishes to keep private can remain private. Another crypto convert? I don't know. But I think she'll be ahead of 98% of the population in that she has a tool to keep her privacy, and she's fully aware of what it is, and the limitations. And that's not a bad days work for this kid :) -- Kevin Prigge internet: klp(a)epx.cis.umn.edu CIS Consultant MaBellNet: (612)626-0001 Computer & Information Services SneakerNet: 152 Lauderdale

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RE: EXPORT CONTROLS ON RC
by david.lloyd-jones＠canrem.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

EH+The commerce clause applies to Congress, not the executive branch, of +which the State Dept is part. Bzzzt, Eric. The Constitution applies to the whole shootin' match. Congress, Executive, States, agencies, CIA, you name it. -dlj. david.lloyd-jones(a)canrem.com * 1st 1.11 #3818 * #include <tagline.h>

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Re: Comdex Disks?
by merriman＠metronet.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> >David K. Merriman says: >> Back some time ago, there was some discussion of giving away disks at Comdex >> in NY; > >Comdex isn't held in New York. Fine. Whatever the hell the damn expo-thingy that was held in New York sometime in the April/May timeframe. Dave Merriman - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Finger merriman(a)fohnix.metronet.com for PGP public key and fingerprint. PGP encrypted Email welcome, encouraged, and preferred. "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." John F. Kennedy

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RE: 2048-bit key...I'm leery
by Johnathan Corgan 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >2) Can the key generation possibly be done on my machine that >quickly? I was expecting it to take at least several hours based on >what I've been reading in the cryptology groups. My first try took about twenty minutes on a 486/50. Second try was about 15 minutes on a 486/66. ======================================================================= Johnathan Corgan "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent" jcorgan(a)scruznet.com -Isaac Asimov PGP Public Key: http://www-swiss.ai.mit.edu/~bal/pks-toplev.html Or send email to: pgp-public-keys(a)pgp.ai.mit.edu Subj: GET jcorgan ======================================================================= -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBLv3mk+lPfVlQ1n99AQGz9Qf/Rdn+OQjX9Z6gXiMCZ+N6iHJhvDBVMyRm 7o8xHM/BO1x5ELfRS/aBWHwjRei61woEhGY5fo2QZQkAZw7LgKQ9fQlhuQyiEkg/ bNrwwS1KXPhfSOKn4xexSkRL2T7BEoipPOs+8lVwKBfZsKfVqK534wjYtXiEqEt0 QPqGkUPbdRxC54Vt2CxaKqMu6MInh6M8I6yoWhXDBRBwTq4LXN5Rg14ecIWr2++Q y6ECqnqqHCyR9ugfweF61tmJL8JkEXdCcr3hFn9S4/Z88ep7i6+4fJQVJ64GTs5J wiSWFUiMRemtbMx6t/RKE8oXZYYm+0VRqQqVKeKoKEGQOh4Hiikccg== =CD8i -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ======================================================================= Johnathan Corgan "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent" jcorgan(a)scruznet.com -Isaac Asimov PGP Public Key: http://www-swiss.ai.mit.edu/~bal/pks-toplev.html Or send email to: pgp-public-keys(a)pgp.ai.mit.edu Subj: GET jcorgan =======================================================================

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2048-bit key...I'm leery
by lce＠wwa.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Ok, call me a skeptic. I made to tries at generating a 2048-bit key on my 33-MHZ 386 machine using PGP 2.6.2. Yes, I know I only get 2047 bits, but that's not what bothers me. What bothers me is the first key generation only took thirty seconds, and the second one under ten minutes. Two questions: 1) Why such disparity in the two times? 2) Can the key generation possibly be done on my machine that quickly? I was expecting it to take at least several hours, based on what I've been reading in the cryptology groups.

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Phil Zimmermann
by Philip L. Dubois 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Phil Zimmermann and his defense team are heartened by the substantial outpouring of support that has been demonstrated through numerous postings in this and other news groups. As we approach a crucial meeting with the prosecutor, it is particularly encouraging to see that many others are willing to devote themselves, both financially and through volunteered time, to Phil's defense. A number of postings have suggested a variety of support activities ranging from petitions to the President to gatherings in San Jose. Phil's lawyers are concerned that some of these activities would not assist in our efforts to protect his legal interests and could in fact hurt. The upcoming meeting with the prosecutor is not a court hearing, but is a private meeting of counsel. Neither Phil nor any judicial official will be present. It will not be a trial or hearing, but a discussion with the Assistant United States Attorney who is handling Phil's case. As such, it is not an appropriate setting for any public demonstrations of support for Phil or for unrestricted dissemination of cryptography. What Phil needs at that meeting is a quiet environment in which serious legal issues can be discussed candidly in an effort to avoid the necessity for any trial. Given the purposes and importance of the meeting, we -- and most especially Phil ZImmermann -- ask that any of his supporters not come to San Jose for any form of public demonstration. We encourage you instead to continue to support Phil's defense by financial contributions. Communications of support to government officials in Washington, DC are also appropriate and helpful. To the extent that effective representation of Phil's interest permits us to communicate with his supporters, we will periodically post announcements to this and other appropriate news groups. Philip L. Dubois Lawyer -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.7 iQCVAwUBLwJTObZ7C+AHeDONAQH1jAP/T6ZMSIAbgjfLliPbDALVMaOkuHBHGdeq ny0KPsZhIz6/K6ate8yr1uF84RtdolHMx73DBpSf6L9H7d3zcPVfy3ArAv44J/kZ jX0y36eCcn9pxhtU+41k9vkSLnGaNdiM5JKpehbRLgP0Gm+dAq0tbGNIXwL0XOEq CKmZXTWj/vs= =4hhB -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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PGP at MacWorld Expo?
by crawford＠scruznet.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The MacWorld Expo is coming up soon in San Francisco, I believe from the 4th through the 7th of January. There must be _someone_ on this list who works for a company or user group that will be exhibiting (I know for sure the Berkeley Macintosh User's Group always exhibits, as does the Boston Computer Society). Do the world a favor. Distribute PGP from your booth. This being the MacWorld Expo, you'll need mostly Mac disks, but you would want to have some Unix and DOS disks on hand as well. Have flyers about the Digital Telephony Bill, to clue in the legislatively impaired. Imagine what a crowd you'll draw to your booth with a sign reading "Unbreakable encryption software - just $3 a disk". You might even make headlines in the trade rags or the SF newspapers. Certainly BMUG and BCS already have the "infrastructure" to sell freeware disks. But any of your companies out there would do well to sell freeware disks too. I understand, from my own experience of working at MacWorld (no, I won't be exhibiting...), that one of the biggest objections to this will be simply dealing with getting the disks duped and labeled, getting them to the show floor, and dealing with the large number of people who will be purchasing the disks and needing you to make change. This could be no small amount of impact on your booth operations. Another option is to offer PGP free with any purchase of your regular product, or to just distribute flyers about the DT bill with instructions for obtaining PGP from the Internet and online services. Regards, Michael D. Crawford crawford(a)scruznet.com <- Please note change of address. crawford(a)maxwell.ucsc.edu <- Finger me here for PGP Public Key.

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