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Re: Assassination Politics(tm) was V-chips, CC, and Motorcycle Helmets
by E. ALLEN SMITH 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: IN%"jimbell(a)pacifier.com" "jim bell" 16-FEB-1996 03:25:12.58 >At 02:18 PM 2/15/96 -0800, Bill Frantz wrote: >BTW, for the record, just a couple of days ago Clinton probably passed >within a mile of my house, "Slant range", in a helicopter, with a day's >warning. (The term, "slant range", is a "term of art," for those not in the >know.) Yes; one could also take out a great deal of Washington DC via toxic gas. (If it weren't flammable, hydrogen cyanide would work nicely; just mix potassium cyanide and hydrochloric acid). Unfortunately, this would also kill a lot of innocent people (including, under my system of ethics at least, some governmental types. Look at Governor John P. Altgeld if you don't believe that any can exist; he pardoned the Haymarket riot scapegoats, and ruined his political career by doing so). >Now, imagine you were a government employee in this line of work, and a >fellow employee was bumped off due to a well-publicized incident. Next time >you're asked to engage in a Waco-like operation, what do you think you'll >say to your manager? "Is this trip necessary?" >This is called, "deterrence." You have a point. Of course, this gets back to the ever-present debate over whether the death penalty causes deterrence or not. I suspect it doesn't for most gang members; whether the actual (as opposed to rhetorical) psychology of governmental employees would predict the same is an interesting question. >Now, I think statistics show that each year, about 800 billion dollars in >individual income taxes are collected. If we assume that the equivalent of >only 1% of that value was donated to solve the "IRS problem," that's 8 >BILLION dollars, which at $10,000 per person would buy 800,000 deaths. >THat's 7 times the current employment of the IRS. >You tell me: What would the average person pay THIS YEAR to avoid paying, >say, a $100,000 tax bill NEXT YEAR? (Hint: How much do rich people pay >their accountants, TODAY, to avoid taxes?) You've got a "tragedy of the commons" problem. Everyone would assume that everyone else would do it. (Admittedly, that libertarians have among the highest charitable donation rates of any group may argue otherwise). Now, targeting whoever audited you is a quite likely possibility. >Another Hint: Consider Bill Gates. His wealth is variously estimated at >over 10 BILLION dollars, probably almost all of which is in long-term >capital gains (Microsoft stock), for which he will have to pay somewhere >around 30% in Federal income taxes if he should choose to cash out. He >would be 1.5 Billion dollars ahead if he donated $1.5 billion dollars to an >organization which would eliminate his requirement to pay the total 3 >billion dollar tax bill to the IRS. That alone is the equivalent of about >$14,000 for each IRS employee. You have an interesting point here. -Allen

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hammers, crowbars and remailers & Leahy
by jf_avon＠citenet.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

What is the difference between an small hardware store owner selling a hammer and a crowbar to a guy that will commit burglary and a remailer owner providing services to , say, the same burglar who wants to sell his stolen goods. Would an anonymous phone call notifying the hardware store owner that somebody will buy tools that will be used to commit a crime be significant? Any comments? JFA Typical govt reasonning: The first cause of death is life, therefore life should be outlawed! Yeah, let make a new law! It'll be fun!

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Re: SurfWatch
by frantz＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 3:27 PM 3/8/96 -0800, Timothy C. May wrote: >(By the way, adult magazines voluntary label themselves as "adult": my >understanding from several comments by lawyers and adult industry >spokesmen, is that they are under no obligation to "voluntarily label" >their stuff. And some libraries have an _explicit_ policy that says any >card-holder, of any age, may check out or look at _any_ item the library >carries.) IMHO Adult magazines label themselves "adult" as a form of advertising. In the same way, a site with a sufficiently hard core self-rating may attract customers specifically because of the rating. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Bill Frantz | The CDA means | Periwinkle -- Computer Consulting (408)356-8506 | lost jobs and | 16345 Englewood Ave. frantz(a)netcom.com | dead teenagers | Los Gatos, CA 95032, USA

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Prologue3a
by Linda Reed--PCC West Campus CSC 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

SAHMD 3A ©©©©©©©© "Maintain," Siller told his agents, but couldn't help adding, "and disclose." This was a vague term meant to signal his men to intercept the suspect and do a bump©and©run on him to sniff out what it was he was hiding©©without alerting Siller's superior that his orders were being countermanded. "The Electronic Privacy Papers." agent Case said, to no one in particular. "What?" Siller asked, perplexed. "Documents on the Battle for Privacy in the Age of Surveillance, by Bruce Schneier and David Banisar, ISBN: 0©471©12297©1." Much to agent Siller's consternation, his superior continued, "That's what your men are going to discover he is hiding furtively under those copies of the 'Gun List' magazines when they disobey my orders and risk blowing their cover." "It's the suspect's form of humor." Justin Case smiled at his subordinate's discomfort. "He's laughing at all the spooks from various agencies, including yours and mine, who are at the gun show shadowing the Anthrax Twins, the Samsonite Nuclear Warrior, and various members of the Loose©Screw Gun Nut Club." Seeing the confused look on agent Siller's face, he explained further. "The suspect is laughing because he believes he is carrying the most dangerous weapon available at the gun show." "And he's probably right..." Case said, with a far© away look in his eyes that sent shivers down agent Siller's spine. Special agent Justin Case took a tattered copy of a paperback titled, "Paper Prison" out of his inside jacket pocket, and stared at it©©lost in a universe that belonged far in the past, but which seemed to be intersecting the present in a manner which bode nothing but ill for those who continued to live in both. "The future is now..." Justin Case said, in a low monotone voice that seemed to come from a world beyond the one in which he and agent Siller were so diligently pursuing the 'Threat of the Day'. "He's carrying a book." the voice came crackling through Siller's earpiece. "Never mind." Siller said, adding, "Maintain." "Maintain." Siller repeated inwardly, to himself,Üj crept up his spine and into the lower regions of his mind as he observed the strange, semi©hypnotic state that his superior had entered into. "Maintain."

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Re: Bombings, Surveillance, and Free Societies
by Rich Graves 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I believe this is where I came in... At 12:51 PM 3/4/96 -0800, tcmay wrote: > >Revolutionary theory says of course that this increased clampdown is a >desired effect of terrorist bombings and attacks. Fear and doubt. >Revolutionary ends rarely happen by slow, incremental movement. Hundreds of >examples, from the original "bomb-throwing anarchists" to the modern mix of >terrorist bands. The Red Brigade in Italy sought a fascist crackdown, and >the "strategy of tension" is common. (And even revolutionists of crypto >anarchist persuasion often think laws like the CDA are good in the long >run, by undermining respect for authority and triggering more extreme >reactions....) Well, I think they're wrong. Revolutionary theorists are right about the *beginning* of the dialectic. Action breeds reaction breeds counterreaction, and so on. Repression opens up all sorts of new opportunities. Ezekiel, St. John, Marx, Hitler, Winnie (not Nelson) Mandela, and so on were right about that. However, the dialectic eventually stabilizes; not every revolution is Armageddon. People get tired of revolution and counterrevolution, and yearn for stability, under *any* regime. That's why otherwise reasonable people let the Bolsheviks, Nazis, Napoleons, Democrats, and Republicans take power. Revolution is like a box of chocolates... you never know what you're going to get. I don't like extremists. But then, I'm a fucking statist. In South Africa, most of Latin America, and (until a few weeks ago) Palestine and Northern Ireland, tolerance has taken a few halting steps. You drop your gun, I'll drop mine. You open up the political process to let me participate, and I'll open up my processes so that you can trust me too. You purge the right-wing death squads on your side, I'll purge the left-wing terrorists on my side. I'm a firm believer in privacy for individuals, but for groups, of any kind, popular or unpopular, public or private, I'm not so sure. -rich http://www-leland.stanford.edu/~llurch/

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FCC v. Internet Phone?
by Mutant Rob 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I've done a scan of the NYT web site (www.nytimes.com) and the AP and Reuters... no mention of this at all, though there's a new blurb about another company promopting an Internet Phone type technology. - --Rob - --- [This message has been signed by an auto-signing service. A valid signature means only that it has been received at the address corresponding to the signature and forwarded.] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Gratis auto-signing service iQBFAwUBMUDxiSoZzwIn1bdtAQFduAGArzYvmvL26xUQiag6etkyg/ysh8RUhTqX s19MCcxWng+3T3frKu5P8eRju2XYBoF5 =Du5Z -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Prologue 4
by Linda Reed--PCC West Campus CSC 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Prologue 4/0 SPACE ALIENS HIDE MY DRUGS ©©©©©©©©©©©©©©©©©©©©©©©©©©©©©©©©©©©©©©© A Nuclear Bullet, With *Everyone's* Name On It: [Your Name Here] Excerpt from an interview with Marilyn Manson on NPR: MM: A lot of the lies spread by Fundamentalist Christians about our tour were believed by people because they read them on the InterNet. The InterNet is the CB Radio of the 90's. People perceive it as a legitimate news source, which it's not. Eventually there will need to be some sort of laws or something... Top Ten Ways To Convince The Sheeple The Revolution Is NOW: 10,9,8,.7,6,5,4,3,2... 1. Put Marilyn Manson's name on the first bullet. "Give me nuclear freedom, or give me death." ~ Patrick Hussein The TRUTH About Area 51: It's a resort©spa for the reptilian Nazis who are shaping our present and our future, preparing to rule all of mankind when they emerge from the underground bunkers beneath Los Alamos, Livermore, Colorado Springs, Muleshoe, Texas, etc., at the end of the Milleniuum. Why can't you buy a straight 2"x4" anymore? The reptilian Nazis are keeping all of the good stuff for themselves. The reason for the tight security at Area 51 is not because of secret spy©planes and the like. The reptilian Nazi's don't want us to know that they are all driving '56 Chevy's. (Their original plan was to have earthlings all driving Edsels, but they tried to implement the plan before their mind©control experiments had proven successful.) Who It Is OK To Put A Fucking Bullet Through Their Head: Officially Recognized Bad Guys©©For the Sheeple, this is Saddam Hussein, Timothy McVeigh, Dennis Rodman, paramilitarists, grandmothers who plug other people's parking meters, Branch Davidians (but it's a shame about the children), and The Subject Of A Ten©Second Sound©Byte To Be Named Later. For Republicans, this is welfare cheats, the homeless, tax cheats making less than $100,000 per year, liberals, Ralph Nadar, CypherPunks, Alt2600 avocados, the 4 Horsemen, and anyone who looks like me. For the Democrats, this is the non©avant©guarde wealthy,Üj liberals consume, Rush Limbaugh, Republican presidents, rednecks, people who drink water straight out of the tap, and anyone who looks like me. For Kris Kristofferson, this is "People doing something dirty, decent folks can frown on..." "Sunshine is the best disinfectant." ~ Supreme Court Justice Louis D. Brandeis, 1928 "Bullet holes let the sun shine in." ~ Supreme Asshole TruthMonger, 1998 When Existence Is Outlawed, Only Outlaws Will Exist: The revolution is now. The only question that those who have the balls to participate in the inevitable chaos which will be needed to balance the Tao against the current onslaught of digitally structured reality that is being forced upon humanity by the new technology being promoted by the pawns of the reptilian Nazis whose headquarters is deep within the confines of the AdamAntarctic is: "Whose brain do I put my first bullet through?" For many, the answer will be, "TruthMonger!" Nobody likes to hear the truth, and the truth is: We all deserve to die. Not only that, but the extinction of humanity, according to our current values, epitomizes the crowning glory of our evolutionary path. What places us *above* the other primates and the other forms of life on our planet? What is it that makes us special, that deems us worthy of ruling over all other life forms on the planet Earth? It is our ability to control; our ability to master our environment and the objects and life©forms contained within its bounds. Ultimately, it is our ability to *kill* whatever stands in the way of the fulfillment of our desires and our goals. For all of our soul©searching, spiritual posturing, deep down inside we all know that we live in a predatorial universe. Republicans cry out for bigger guns to defend our way of life from everyone who fails to salute the flag. Democrats cry out for the press and political leaders to invent enemies to justify the liberals crying out for bigger guns to protect us from the 'bad guys.' And it's all bullshit... The reason we need to launch wars and destroy our environment is to keep the price of our refrigerators and our color TV's reasonable©©to keep the price of aÜj dollar high enough that we can feel good about ourselves for saving a starving child for less than ten cents a day, while ignoring the fact that an obese Sally Fields could save more starving children in a week than we possibly could in a lifetime, just by donating one of her lunches to the charity she is promoting. Think About This, You Stupid Fucking Bastards: Why do we need to allow our basic human rights and freedoms to be compromised?: In order for our hallowed leaders and our protectors in the law enforcement community to adequately protect us from the 'bad guys.' Why do we need to be protected from the 'bad guys'?: Because if they win out over the 'good guys', they will take away our basic human rights and freedoms. The Reason TruthMonger Will Die Broke And Alone: Because he invested all of his money in ClueServers, believing that the Sheeple might one day find them to be of value. "TV Is Real! (Just go back to sleep, dear.)"

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SNET: U.S. Patent Programmable subcutaneous visible implant
by Vladimir Z. Nuri 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: jeremy.compton(a)stonebow.otago.ac.nz (Jeremy Compton) Subject: SNET: U.S. Patent Programmable subcutaneous visible implant Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 01:35:49 +1200 To: snetnews(a)world.std.com -> SNETNEWS Mailing List United States Patent 5,638,832 Singer, et. al. Jun. 17, 1997 Programmable subcutaneous visible implant Abstract A subcutaneous implant for displaying various re-programmable information or decorative patterns beneath the surface of the skin of a person or an animal. A biologically inert subcutaneous implant is constructed of a flexible material so as to conform to the skin's surface. The subcutaneous implant includes a battery for providing power to the implant. The subcutaneous implant also includes a receiver for receiving programming information from a user, and a display for displaying the programming information through the skin. Inventors: Singer; Andrew J. (Palo Alto, CA); White; Sean (San Francisco, CA). Assignee: Interval Research Corporation (Palo Alto, CA). Appl. No.: 477,096 Filed: Jun. 7, 1995 Intl. Cl. : A61B 19/00 Current U.S. Cl.: 128/899 Field of Search: 128/897-899, 654 References Cited | [Referenced By] U.S. Patent Documents 4,233,964 Nov., 1980 Jefferts et al. 128/899 5,041,826 Aug., 1991 Milheiser 5,074,318 Dec., 1991 Campbell et al. 5,205,286 Apr., 1993 Soukup et al. 128/899 5,322,034 Jun., 1994 Willham et al. 5,324,940 Jun., 1994 Ekstrom 5,482,008 Jan., 1996 Stafford et al. 128/899 Primary Examiner: Cohen; Lee S. Assistant Examiner: Lacyk; John P. Attorney, Agent or Firm: Brooks & Kushman 19 Claims, 4 Drawing Figures -> Send "subscribe snetnews " to majordomo(a)world.std.com -> Posted by: jeremy.compton(a)stonebow.otago.ac.nz (Jeremy Compton)

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Remailer Security
by jrochkin＠cs.oberlin.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 11:06 PM 03/04/96, lmccarth(a)cs.umass.edu wrote: >Bottom line: if you can crack (say) the 8-character Unix passphrase for a >remailer account, you have full access to the remailer's secrets and all the >opportunities that presents. Good remailer account passphrases are >important. Um, there's no reason why your remailer's account needs to be logged into interactively, is there? Seems like remailer ops should disable login to remailer accounts, putting '*' into the password field in /etc/passwd, or however unix lets you disable login (I know it does). Obviously, the general security risk of someone gaining unauthorized access to the remailer executable or data files is still there, and important to keep in mind. But this would seem to be a fairly logical security measure.

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I don't think I'm on the mailing list anymore. What's going on?
by Corey Minter 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, I'm not getting any more mail from this list. Does anyone know what could have happened? Maybe it's a CDA crackdown :) If anyone knows could you email me directly?

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