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Internet Passports, Identity Escrow, and Back Doors
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

lmccarth(a)cs.umass.edu risks violating the terms of his PC probation by writing: >I just sent this to the remailer operators' list, but it may be of interest >here too. I think Tim or Lucky or someone suggested something like GAI >(Government Access to Identities) here a while back.... > >Forwarded message: >> Lance writes: >> I hypothesize that the Strassmann & Marlow paper is meant to lay the >> groundwork for some sort of eventual Government Access to Identities proposal >> (which would more likely be termed "identity escrow" by the Feds). It's >> about the only way I can reconcile statements like the following >> (juxtaposed by me, not them): Indeed, several of us have written extensively about the rationales for "is-a-person" credentialling by government, what I have quipped is a kind of "identity escrow" (further abusing the term "escrow"). I lack the time to write a concise summary, so will instead mention a bunch of points. Searching the archives for mentioned terms may yield more comprehensive articles. * "Internet Driver's License." This is not just a joke, although the reported systems are not called this. But the idea is the same. A credential, probably a signed key certificate, that is granted after proof of age is presented. (For example, one might show a passport or conventional Driver's License at a Post Office and they'd issue a signed key....something they'd like to get into the business of doing, from various reports.) * An age credential such as this is essentially going to be necessary, in the worst case, for accessing the Net and Web. If the CDA is upheld--which may take several years to decide for sure--then sites will probably have to take positive steps to verify that users are not minors. Unless they carry only G-rated Barney material (but no Barney jokes, as children might be traumatized). * This age credential obviously cannot be just the "I swear that I am old enough to view adult images" sort of click button. (Although it mostly works with ordering adult material through the mail to immunize a provider, except in this case there is the additional "check" of mail delivery, where a postal carrier may may informal inquiries about the age of the recipient. Plus the parents can intercept the subscription to "Hustler" that 14-year-old Johhny ordered.) * The various schemes for signature authorities, which I admit to not following very closely, all the stuff about Verisign and whether Netscape will or will not accept signatures of rogue signers....all this suggests a worrisome situation in which all messages must be signed by the True Name (see above) of the message originator. (For a good fictional treatment of this, see John Brunner's "The Shockwave Rider.") * Remailers and Web proxies obviously represent an end-run around the CDA and key escrow, in various ways, so I think it likely that these will come under attack. The legal means of attacking them may be one or more of the following: - holding the remailer site operator legally responsible for what can be traced back to his system, especially if in plaintext. (This would make the last site in a chain of otherwise-encrypted messages especially vulnerable if the message is delivered in plaintext to the recipient. Of course, with wider use of crypto, the message can be delivered in encrypted form. I see more and more remailers insisting on encrypted (high entropy) messages.) - for sites that charge any kind of fee for remailing, extensions of the business laws to require that logs be maintained ("so that customers can dispute bills"!!). These logs could then be subpoenaed to aid in tracing messages back to origins. (Sure, it gets hard when hops outside the country are involved...I'm not saying this'll be easy or effective, just a possible avenue of attack on remailers.) - finally, outlawing of remailers and proxies. Or extensive registration of them. (We've had this debate a couple of times, about whether mail-forwarding services really have to register, get proof of ID, send records along to the government, etc.) * Identity Escrow obviously fits in closely with key escrow in general. In closing, I think the next couple of years will see increasing pressure to require some kind of "Internet Driver's License," at least within the U.S. Other countries will jump at this (Germany, China, France, the usual suspects). Call it an "Internet Passport." For some interesting insights into the thinking of some in the crypto community, go back to around 1986-8 in the "Crypto" Conference Proceedings and you'll find some papers, by Fiat and Shamir I believe, on the "problem" of "rogue governments" (they cited Libya for their example) issuing "false passports." (I have commented in the past that the U.S. government has a reported 50,000 or more people in the Witness Security (aka Protection) Program, under the U.S. Marshal's Service, and reserves the right to create completely fake "legends" (dossiers) for these people, including false credit records, false education records, and false employment records. Not to mention their various secret agents. Clearly the government would want "back doors" into any Internet Passport system!) --Tim May Boycott espionage-enabled software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^756839 - 1 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Vile Vial Files
by Tim May 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

One of the interesting items revealed today was that an FBI file was opened on the Ohio man when he ordered the bubonic plague culture a few years ago. The Maryland company forwarded his name to the Feds, apparently as part of a regular arrangement to do so. The Feds did an investigation, found he had used his company's name "fraudulently" (whatever that might be), and used this to convict him on fraud charges. (Not on the bubonic plague charges, though, as that wasn't a crime. At least not then.) This is part of a larger surveillance state situation, with buyers of all sorts of chemicals reported to the Feds. With buyers of grow lamps reported. (And supposedly the electric utility companies are reporting unusual power usages in the middle of the night to Feds.) While there may be various good reasons not to have botulism or bubonic plague cultures sold to ordinary folks, this whole situation raises serious issues. And the initiation of FBI investigations of purchasers of many kinds of chemicals raises issues. (One can asssume that with more and more such things being added to the "watch lists" each year, that there will be less acceptance of cash, or anonymous digital cash, for such purchases.) ObMinorNote: I recently tried to buy a bag of ammonium nitrate for my yard...the local yard store says it hasn't been available to ordinary customers since OKC. I had to settle for ammonium sulfate instead. We live in a dangerous world, full of potentially dangerous substances and things. Instead of dealing with the danger on a personal basis, we are using the government as our nanny, and also letting it record our purchases, open files on us for "unusual" purchases, and generally track our actions. Which actually won't have much effect on dedicated terrorists and criminals. --Tim May Just Say No to "Big Brother Inside" ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, ComSec 3DES: 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^3,021,377 | black markets, collapse of governments.

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Re: free speech and the government
by James M. Cobb 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Dmitri, On 02 03 96 you say: I believe that any exception to unlimited free speech, be it libel, or copyright violation, or child pornography, or Nazi propaganda, or Chinese dissident materials, just isn't com- patible with the cpunk agenda. No censorship is acceptable. That's an absolute. Censorship is founded on prying; and pryers have THEIR absolute: On 2 January 1992, it was decided by the German Federal govern- ment to open these [East German police] files...at 15 offices throughout the former East Germany. It is worth pointing out the extensive nature of these files. It was discovered that husbands spied on wives, girlfriends spied on boyfriends, Cath- olic Church confessionals were bugged by the 'Stasi' both with and without the knowledge of the parish priest, Lutheran parish- ioners spied on their pastors, telephone calls of both East and West Germans were heavily monitored and the most innocent event, such as going shopping or visitng the library, was included in the files. --Wayne Madsen [co-author of the upcoming new Puzzle Palace]. Handbook of Personal Data Protection. Stockton Press. 1992. Page 4. Pryers agree! No censorship is acceptable. A*N*Y*T*H*I*N*G goes. But let's be scientific about it: Some 30 miles from Boston is a radio telescope called Beta, run by the Harvard-Smithsonian Centre for Astrophysics, that day and night searches the northern sky for artificial radio signals as it makes continuous swathes through the heavens. It must pick up all the naturally-caused radio sounds as well, which engineers call "noise" as opposed to "signal". This means that it collects an enormous quantity of information that can be processed only by a specially-built supercomputer. Every second it captures enough data to fill a CD-Rom, which every day adds up to 22 trillion bytes of data, the equivalent of 52 million novels. --Adrian Berry. "Watch This Space." File: nspace04.html. Home News. 02 05 96 The Electronic Telegraph. A USEFUL gadget, isn't it? Censorship of even 1 byte of the 22 tril- lion is unacceptable. E*V*E*R*Y*T*H*I*N*G goes. Between two absolutes, what decides? Cordially, Jim PS: I can't help wondering whether "all the naturally-caused radio sounds" are really all the artificially-caused microwave signals within range. Of all the intercept stations built during the 1950's boom, the ultimate in both ambition and failure was in the remote Allegheny hollow of Sugar Grove, West Virginia.... Since its beginnings in the mid-1950s, the secrecy surrounding Sugar Grove has been intense. The cover story throughout the entire life of the project was that the six-hundred-foot dish was purely for research and radio astronomy, permitting scien- tists "to tune in on radio signals as far as 38 billion light years away".... --James Bamford. The Puzzle Palace. Penguin Books. 1983. Pages 217f, 220. Supposedly, the only person allowed to look into each of the East German police files was the "data subject," the person who had been looked into.

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a retort + a comment + a question = [RANT]
by SUCRUM22_at_INDY-ADP＠smtp-gw.cv62.navy.mil 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

---------------------------------------------------------------------- tim may wrote: >"...and that discussions of other topics bother you should be a clear >indication you're probably on the wrong list." uh, that's _why_ i am on this list... >"Having a "navy.mil" domain probably is another reason, unless you >are only hear to monitor our discussions of using cryptography to >undermine the state, to liberate military secrets with BlackNet and >the Information Liberation Front, and to punish the millions of >those in the military-industrial complex who have so richly earned >their eventual punishments. military secrets, eh? tell me something mr may, what secrets have you uncovered in your undaunting quest to expose those corrupt little guys in uniform? mr may - i serve in the US Navy so you don't have to, and as much as i sometimes _don't_ like it, i will always, _always_ love the navy for what she gave me. one of the reasons you sit at your terminal drinking your coffe and ranting on and on, is because men and women like myself happen to think that what the military does for the US is a good thing. i skipped collage (don't ask why) after graduating early from HS to enlist in the navy. keeping you free to bitch is why i am here. never forget that the freedom you enjoy comes with a price, mr may. the schools that you send your kids to (forgive me if you're celibate or childless) are run by the govt. am i saying they do a good job? not necessarily, but what i _am_ saying is that your kids _still_ go. i am almost positive, despite attempts to the contrary, that you make use of the US postal system. the phone lines that you connect that computer to were installed by - guess who? - there are a hundred other things you and i and everyone use that wouldn't be there if it weren't for the USG (or state/county/municipal govt's). tell me mr may, how much of this are you willing to give up in your quest for what (i am supposing) you mean in your little blurb at the end of your mail - "collapse of governments"? the writer supposes that mr may would still be against, determined to oppose, and dedicated to the elimination of [pick something, pick anything] if govt's didn't exist. what's the quote? "i may not agree with what you say, but i defend to the death your right to say it." something like that. >Smash the State. aye, aye captain! --------------------------------------------------------------------- mark m wrote: >In order for anonymous remailers to be completely anonymous, only one >remailer in the chain has to be trustworthy. If a message is chained >through N remailers and N-1 of those remailers are run by spooks, the >anonymity of the message depends on the remaining remailer. well, actually, the first remailer has to be the trustworthy one. you send a msg to the first with your "real" address, and if the spook is there, voila! so... i understand your point, but still, it has to be the first one. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- dale thorn(?) wrote: >I'm amused to think that, in a nation armed with 20,000 or so nukes, >the paranoid of paranoid nation-states as it were, some of the >erstwhile intelligent citizens think that the U.S. military are just >sitting around wringing their hands over the "fact" that the citizens >have "unbreakable" crypto. >Bear in mind the Scientific American articles on Public Key crypto >back in the 1970's. The military knew the score back then, and if >you think they just sat back and allowed all this to happen, well, >sorry, I don't believe in Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny. one question (sarcastic and rhetorical): how long did it take for the USG to actually acknowledge that the NSA.NRO.DIA.etc existed? hmmm.... has a segment of the populace gone stark raving paraniod? >Second, any truly secret messaging taking place represents a serious >threat to the military, and contrary to some naive popular opinion, >those guys are not going to lay down for this... what does the military have to do wiht private citizens conversing in secret? are _you_ one of the naive that think men actually in uniform controll the military? hello - the SecDef is a civillian. the president is a democrat. the military does what the white house/ congress tell it (the writer realizes this is a vastly over- simplified response to a vastly broad statement). ---------------------- SUCRUM22(a)cv62.navy.mil ----------------------- a calculated risk based on the possible consequence of an action is better than a haphazard one based on poor judgment or ignorance --------------------------------------------------------------------- Don't confuse my views with those of the DoD or the United States Navy

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onward, Clinton soldiers / not so fast, Sen. Lott
by Attila T. Hun 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- let's put the Saddam affair in perspective; I'm sure anyone who is generally enlightened will agree that Bubba needs a nice little war to distract attention from his impending doom from a wandering dickhead which Hillary obviously does not, and has not, serviced adequately. Eric Margolis, whom I have known for many years, is an American, and a Vietnam veteran, on the staff of the Toronto Sun, who went to Canada for editorial freedom. he calls it like he sees it, and the following article on American's failed MidEast foreign policy since WWII should be must reading for the war mongers who have never learned their history and are about to repeat it. _________________________ NOTICE ______________________ In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. _______________________________________________________ NOT SO FAST, SEN. LOTT! by Eric Margolis Toronto Sun Editorial Columnist February 16, 1998 Senate majority leader Trent Lott and other senior Republicans are demanding the US adopt a long-term strategy of covert action and subversion to overthrow Saddam Hussein and other Mideast troublemakers who disturb the Pax Americana. Bombing Iraq is simply not enough, warned war-fevered Republicans. Saddam must be driven from power once and for all. Many pro-Israel Conservatives demand the US Army march on Baghdad. If Senator Lott knew Mideast history better, he might not be so eager for covert action, or hopeful Iraq's government could be overthrown to America's profit. He might even learn the United States is not the solution to the Mideast's chronic instability and tensions, but a major source. A few examples: *1947 Washington is displeased by Syria's government. A CIA-Army `political action team' mounts a coup, employing a `CIA asset,' Gen. Husni Za'im. As senior CIA Mideast agent Miles Copeland delightfully recalls, the Americans kept calling Za'im `our boy,' or `Husni,' and ordering him about. The day after Za'im's coup, Copeland and the American agents went to inform the new dictator whom he would appoint as ambassadors and cabinet ministers. When the Americans called him, `Husni,' Za'im ordered them to `stand at attention,' and address him as `Excellency.' US-Syrian relations have been terrible ever since. Two subsequent, US-backed coups backfired. *1952 The US helps engineer a coup against British puppet ruler of Egypt, King Farouk. CIA backs a young colonel, Gammal Abdel Nasser. But when the US later tries to pressure Nasser into joining Washington's `new order' for the Mideast, the Baghdad Pact, Nasser rebels and becomes America's enemy number one. CIA tries first to overthrow, than assassinate Nasser. All attempts fail. *1953 Iran's popular, elected leader, Mohammed Mossadegh, attempts to assert Iranian control of his nation's oil industry, whose profits go to the US and Britain. A CIA coup overthrows Mossadegh, and puts `our boy' Reza Shah on the throne. Iran's US-trained secret police keep the Shah in power through a reign of terror. Islamic-nationalist revolution sweeps Iran in 1979, ending US domination. *1957/58 US and Britain thwart popular uprisings against King Hussein of Jordan. *1958 Washington installs a client regime in Lebanon, which then dutifully calls for US troops. Beginning of Lebanon's 35 years of instability and civil war. *1958 Britain's Iraqi puppets, King Faisal and Nuri as- Said, overthrown by the bloodthirsty Col. Kassim. US uses Kassim to attack Nasser. Kassim murdered by Col. Aref in CIA-mounted coup. Aref's helicopter blown up. A few more murders later, CIA helps engineer into power a promising, young, Baath Party enforcer, Saddam Hussein, *1960 Anwar Sadat goes on CIA payroll. After Nasser's death, CIA puts Sadat into power in Egypt. Corrupt and hated, Sadat is assassinated to great popular joy.. *1969 The US elbows Britain out of Libya to gain control of its high-grade oil. CIA overthrows British puppet, King Idris, and - - in one of its most brilliant moves - helps into power a young, reformist colonel, Muammar Khadaffi. When Khadaffi subsequently trumpets the Arabs are being robbed of their oil by the west, and raises prices, he goes unto America's hit list. *1976 US, Iran and Israel secretly arm Iraq's Kurds and promote their rebellion to destabilize Iraq. Kurdish revolt plays major role in igniting Iran-Iraq War 1980-1988 in which one million died. US abandons Kurds, gets chummy with Baghdad. *1980 Saddam Hussein becomes America's most important Mideast ally in trying to crush Iran's Islamic revolution. Urged on, armed and financed by the US, Saddam invades Iran in 1980. CIA and Pentagon supply military advice and intelligence on Iran. US and British intelligence help Iraq obtain its chemical and biological warfare capabilities. *1983 US attempts to install a client, Christian/fascist regime in Lebanon, drive out Syrian influence. US Marines sent to Beirut, under cover of `peace-keepers.' They are bombed out of Lebanon by Shia militants: 309 Americans die, including CIA's top Mideast staff. *1985 CIA's revenge backfires. Lebanese CIA agents detonate truck bomb in Beirut in a failed attempt to assassinate Shia leader, Sheik Fadlallah. Eighty-three civilians killed, 240 wounded. *1986 US tries to assassinate Khadaffi by bombing his residence in Tripoli. One baby daughter killed, one injured. He escapes. Downing of Pan Am and French UTA flights may be revenge for this failed hit. Three other attempt to assassinate Khadaffi, using CIA-organized Libyan exiles, fail. *1996 The Bay of Camels - CIA's biggest flop since Cuba. Urged on by President Clinton, CIA mounts an elaborate coup against Saddam Hussein. Iraqi exiles, armed and trained by CIA, to march on Baghdad from US/British ruled Kurdistan. CIA organizes a cabal of generals to assassinate Saddam. Public places in Baghdad are bombed, many civilians killed, in order to `destabilize' Iraq (this while the US is busy denouncing terrorism). But Saddam's spies have infiltrated the plot. The whole operation collapses. CIA's agent network in Iraq is rolled up. Many Kurds back Saddam, turn on pro-US Kurds. CIA agents in Kurdistan run for their lives, abandoning allies and tons of documents. Saddam is strengthened. CIA's inept Director, John Deutch, fired for this Mother of All Fiascos. . Republicans now urge more of the above to keep the Mideast calm. You certainly can't argue with success. copyright eric margolis 1998 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: latin1 Comment: No safety this side of the grave. Never was; never will be iQBVAwUBNOzdC7R8UA6T6u61AQGciwH8DV95VLZFazEpV9YOI7xaItpsq2892hlW LsEgcfoDRAPp4qHworr1kFymnzNpJXToj1KGO6/yyoEam8Xjw/MBig== =8rR0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Marshall McLuhan and encryption...
by Deranged Mutant 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- jf_avon(a)citenet.net (Jean-Francois Avon (JFA Technologies, QC, Canada)) wrote: > >> Nick's a big shot at Wired magazine. So it should be no surprise >> to learn that Wired attacked cypherpunks in its 01 96 issue. In >> a fake interview with "Wired's patron saint," Marshall McLuhan is >> made to say (p 130): >> >> Concerns about privacy and anonymity are outdated. Cypherpunks >> think they are rebels with a cause, but they are really senti- >> mentalists. > >Well, maybe McL. would have spit such nonsense, very characteristical of him. > >"The media is the message" is among the biggests con jobs performed on humanity. >It's like having a guy dying form thirst and telling him: "The pipe is the beverage"... Actually, that is a common distortion of McLuhan. When McLuhan said that, he meant that the use of a medium (by "medium" he meant any technology) communicated more than just its content. What he found interesting was the effect of a lot of people watching TV, the same channels at the same time, as being meaningful itself, irregardless of what was on the TV. He probably would not have been anti-crypto, IMO, and would have found its widespread usage as signifying something... the cryptomedium would be a message independent of the encrypted messages. As for this crapola about privacy concerns being outdated, they are very much up-to-date. The traditional public/private distinction has quite a few philisophical problems, but the concerns are more imporant now than a hundred or a thousand years ago. If anything, the crap that Nick pupports is what's outdated... the public individual in the polis is long dead, in part because of mass media. Note that traditional/modernist/existential conceptions were pro-identity. Postmodern critiques are anti-identity; anonymous dividualism is a mode of resistence to the "15-minutes-of-fame" hype. Recommend you read Foucault's "Subject and Power" and Deleuze's "Postscript on the societies of control". [Oh yeah, the Wired people did a nice spin calling Foucault an alt.sex.bondage neo-Stalinist. Ad hominim attacks are wonderful, aren't they... but that's another thread] [..] > >Dear Wired peoples and Mr. McLuhan: get lost! Wired I wdn't miss. McLuhan? He's dead, and probably would have thought crypto to be a good thing. But it's just like a church to fingerpuppet dead prophets into spouting the current dogma. The Wired people are too busy paying abblutions to McLuhan's shadow on the cave walls. [..] > He is partially right. With Renaissance, came the idea that Reason and human mind >were powerfull and that knowledge, because man's only survival tool is reason, is a value >to pursue. > >But french revolution did not convey theses ideas, neither >did Napoleon. And Hitler definitely not. >All of the three were, ultimately, collectivists or looters. Yep. And McLuhan was actually an individualist, in the sense that tribal societies are individualist. There's a difference between communitarianism and community, between socialism and sociability. Rob. - --- [This message has been signed by an auto-signing service. A valid signature means only that it has been received at the address corresponding to the signature and forwarded.] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Gratis auto-signing service iQBFAwUBMRcVTCoZzwIn1bdtAQG09QGAkMfFQbAJaPY0YQhGPRhWcWb0xZ1omNCA /4aHBk2F1Xy8pHR3yoADG7+f2sSBfgK4 =uuA5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Electronic Funds Clearing House?
by rah＠shipwright.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Take a look at these guys... http://www.efunds.com/welcome2.html Now I know I can't use e-money.com. :-). Anybody here heard of them? Cheers, Bob ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "Reality is not optional." --Thomas Sowell The NEW(!) e$ Home Page: http://www.tiac.net/users/rah/

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Re: PLO censoring pro-Iraqi sentiments
by Brian B. Riley 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> The next time you "cheer to see the U.S. gets its tail kicked", why >> don't you think about the American troops who lost their lives or were >> maimed, or who were doing something they may have been personally and >> morally against, but they chose to be professional soldiers, and instead >> of displaying cowardice, they tried to do what was asked of them. I prefer to view what Tim said in the context that "Amerika" the ugly got its tail kicked in the broader sense. I don't believe that Tim took any pleasure in seeing American soldiers getting killed. The fact remains that we, Amerika, did get our tail kicked in Somalia; like Viet Nam it was little reflection on the troops but a reflection of the of a command staff being run by Washington DC Apparatchiki all suffering from cranio-rectal inversion. America deserves all the ridicule that has been heaped upon it for those fiascos; only ... some time, maybe we can but hope the we will finally learn at least one lesson and get it right once before I go for the long sleep! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBNOz23D7r4fUXwraZAQFTmAf+NduMJzQp+B4bgILGKcE2n2nMiqqCbV3F gfDqNCANv8I+9VFIZp5yXomg6fmrv/byz/KBAJ0Vb+r8Sgmw/EofflN6s5fInVTq GZlg9aGkdQRHSo8dRuGsxeIkQE0tYqISqFWLNdf5raKEE1UygYoOxQ83snZFvFLU VFOdo37zepo3qlfRNwt2TSW4Wg5D02uQHQIONah64/F9XIENoBAfTLhdeglAN05z L+JGC0hUgyzjv+vmN4qBgtQJIKKOJO1eyQsT1csDXXWPoD/O7I+w6bwS98Yf4UA2 d8T+G8vBdms7rpjQkX7cpa2XASufl1A+3YI8vVDMUREBSjJRTH85nA== =tsyh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Brian B. Riley --> http://members.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys <mailto:brianbr@together.net?subject=Get%20PGP%20Key> "Despite the bleating of various socialistically-anointed freakshow groups, the vast majority of us realize that bringing children into the world is not only the most wonderful endeavor with which we can be associated but absolutely essential if we aren't going to put ourselves on the EPA's endangered species list." Winston Borden

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Re: Defeating untrustworthy remailers?
by E. ALLEN SMITH 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: IN%"wlkngowl(a)unix.asb.com" "Deranged Mutant" 7-FEB-1996 00:44:18.29 >Here's another idea (don't laugh): to set up a system where mailing lists and newsgroups have public keys that you can encrypt directly to. Advantage for anonymous mail is that if a remailer is untrustowrthy, there's still some security in the final remailing of the document. ------------------ The newsgroups part of the idea has the problem that you've got to have either a centralized place from which the newsgroup is run that has the private key (a problem for controversial newsgroups, which are precisely the ones to which people will tend to use remailers to post to), or lots of places having the private key (an obvious problem from the cryptographic standpoint). -Allen

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Re: Dealing with Credit Reporting Agencies...
by btmoore＠iquest.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- At 09:31 AM 2/5/96 -0600, Karl Ike wrote: >Attila: I'm not in the business of running or hiding. I'm just an average, >everyday working guy that doesn't like credit reporting agencies, what they >stand for or what they do for money. I didn't say that I was going to do >this. I just had the idea! I don't have the knowledge or the money to spend. >That doesn't mean that there is someone out there that would jump at the idea. > >I just don't like the idea that these assholes know more about me than my >mother and sell my private and personal information to anyone for big bucks. >My credit is fine, just ask my banker or better yet, my mom. > >I am assumming that you know far more people on the internet since I have >only been on for a month and have done three e-mail. I'm just suggesting to >get the idea out and someone will take the ball and run. Yes, they will be a >hunted man, but not a US citizen. Someone out there with a laptop and a >cellular, living on a cruise ship, just may enjoy the idea. > >Just me, Karl Well Karl, It seems I missed your idea/solution in this post, however, some of us figured this out some years ago... I begin a campaign almost 10 years ago of feeding the computers false information about myself. I never use the Social Insecurity Number assigned to me... I don't even give it to the Bank. This makes for some rather dicey situations. I rarely use my real name or give out my real phone number. At this point in my life... I have *NO* credit history. I currently have *NO* bank account. My goal is to be completely invisible to the system. Yes I have had a few glitches in this plan from time to time... but I continue to work on it. I just have never felt warm and fuzzy knowing that any government agency, business, or whoever can get my personal information off a computer could come knock on my door some dark night. If you're interested in fortifying your privacy, I can give you a few pointers. 1.) Go to your local DMV and inform them you've had a change of address. I selected a high rise apartment building with 15 floors and selected an address on a non-existant 23rd floor. Getting your Driver's License address changed should cost less than $10.00. 2.) Go find a company like "Mail Boxes Etc." and rent a mailbox. The cost is nominal compared to the added privacy and security. The distinction between a mailbox and a Post Office Box is with a mailbox you have an actual street address. You can receive deliveries from UPS and Federal Express at a mailbox. You can't at a P.O. Box. 3.) This part requires some skill... befriending a graphic artist is a good idea for this one. But what you need is a phony work identification. Pick a name! A couple of "Pass Port Photos" and some lamination and you're good to go. 4.) Take your new persona down to your local utility companies and get the serv- ice switched to the name of your new persona. Even get your phone switched and have the number non-published. You'll be pleasantly surprised from now on, everytime your phone rings, it will be someone you really want to talk to. 5.) Go down to your local Post Office and file a change of address form. Use the address of your mailbox. Remember, most companies that provide Mailbox service, will need to see your drivers license... which of course now has a non-existant address on it. You can take this as far as you want... Just doing these 5 things will give you a sense of comfort and security you've probably not had in a long time. How does this fit into cyperpunks and encryption? The philosophy is the same! What good is it encrypting your messages to ensure your privacy when everything else is exposed! It's a lot like an Ostrich burying his head in the sand to hide, but leaving all his good parts exposed! Benjamin T. Moore, Jr. btmoore(a)iquest.net (Jian #AJF IRChat) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBMRlexoSAJOVFNaChAQFBCQf8Drm04x2YT5gZb8cklwep1eBVKxOMyVzn /ZN3Tk+lKT05CAT0TCmHm+8oztqxWhgjMklYT228C5u4zvaF8ZrYvLxMp7RQPHvK D2fSKdMGMs+pPvJxPUC5UXssoIsBS0W+i4dO5jDIj/MkXM4JFHsDHvFqr9Q7FqwE Xr75lHjiNP4Gcv06WkVpJewJMaflP5zcrSam577/fbbCkYM6e4nhQPGdqdi83txM hzvCs8cHalPa9UJGuSbIZObe1fAUkQMsVqEomXe5HuBzukJigwdqj4IK9SJixTVx m0Fxf/W74j4lS1TXpqjCQoSD4EPRAleCYR6SFbqV/p0/cMYqv6kErA== =4HYS -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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