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[Censored] Quote of the Day
by bureau42 Anonymous Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: Fyodor <fygrave(a)freenet.bishkek.su> Reply-To: fygrave(a)usa.net ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 03:50:03 -0700 From: Quote of the day <qotd-request(a)ensu.ucalgary.ca> "Free Speech, Democracy" - complete text of a sign put up on a roadside fence in Vancouver by university law student Craig Jones. Jones was arrested for doing so by Royal Canadian Mounted Police, who were protecting dictators attending the APEC (Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation) meeting in Vancouver, November 1997 from dissent. He was released without being charged after 14 hours in custody. Submitted by: Terry Labach Dec. 1, 1997 -------------------------------------------------------------- Send quotation submissions to qotd(a)ensu.ucalgary.ca Send list changes or requests to qotd-request(a)ensu.ucalgary.ca

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Re: Remailer Trivia / Re: Singapore & Freedom (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > From: Jeff Barber <jeffb(a)issl.atl.hp.com> > Subject: Re: Remailer Trivia / Re: Singapore & Freedom (fwd) > Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 08:40:46 -0500 (EST) > Jim Choate writes: > > > To the best of my knowledge no phone company anywhere > > will allow a customer to purchase service without identifying themselves to > > the phone company. Please let me know if there is such a beast somewhere. > > Go to your nearest convenience store. It's got something called a > pay phone. Just cough up a quarter, no ID required. Really? I don't think so. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | | | We built your fort. We will not have it used against us. | | | | John Wayne - Allegheny Uprising | | | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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Re: Remailer Trivia / Re: Singapore & Freedom (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 15:57:15 -0500 (EST) > From: Jrbl Pookah <lists(a)castle5.castlec.com> > Subject: Re: Remailer Trivia / Re: Singapore & Freedom (fwd) > > Hmm. Excuse the interruption into your conversation here, but > I've signed up (in the past) for long-distance service under an assumed > name, on a telephone line that I held in a different assumed name. At > least in Cincinnati, OH, the phone company didn't (doesn't?) really care, > as long as they had a place to send the bills. When they asked for my > SSN, I simply told them I wouldn't give it to them, and offered my > date-of-birth - which I lied about. They didn't mind. > Was the identity 'anonymous'? The other issues are irrelevant to this discussion. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | | | We built your fort. We will not have it used against us. | | | | John Wayne - Allegheny Uprising | | | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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Re: Remailer Trivia / Re: Singapore & Freedom (fwd)
by Charlie Comsec 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Jim Choate <ravage(a)ssz.com> wrote: > > With both Nynex and Bell Atlantic, I've gotten phone service under a > > nym. No SSN, no credit references, no problem. > > > > Just don't call yourself Bill Clinton. > > That isn't the same as having it listed under the nym 'anonymous', when > you can get a phone company to start service, accept payment under that > 'name' and keep it that way in their records let me know. Further, with > the cross to the service address your anonymity isn't. But that isn't analogous to making an anonymous post to a public forum such as a Usenet NG or a mailing list. The best telephone analogy to that I can think of would be to place a phone call from a payphone to one of those call-in radio programs, say what you have to say, then hang up and listen to the responses over your radio. Signing up for a telephone under a pseudonym implies that you desire incoming calls (private replies) and is more analogous to a 'nym server. - --- Finger <comsec(a)nym.alias.net> for PGP public key (Key ID=19BE8B0D) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBNI2qrwbp0h8ZvosNAQF0MAf9E6GecTJszUYlfj6D1WCX8HUpJcVBo2gY DwLJOs8l3tgf292xFbcInQpQncJyIWHWY3svOZyGcmxgtUDjAi61vaeAYasU44sA KXJV0NjZgqXtE2bIAAWDSQsRzWalawnOp0UfNv1f3arHJrOx03YttAA8IuzB0365 uyCaZhjZDnhaSYd+Z+yfICcth4PVInRmm+gW6kpthMV3bY/+14hVjC6DAdh3W38E 5mlVG/99OLd2J+dSbo3al0eFmTnLcqyUK0w5kqkWpnStvTYuos1TSvuIX7toBOZi WIDLn83zHYbFwpp25hs68SrbTZ+IrQeiuannd14UtAXvWoGjzNLCQw== =Ldte -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Court TV
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

[CANADIAN NUTLY NEWS-Bienfait, Saskatchewan]CINDY COHN, LEAD COUNSEL for the Bernstein free-speech encryption case, and part-time barmaid at the Coaldust Saloon, denied that her successful efforts to have Court TV release only footage that shows her "good side" conflicts with her client's interests. Swatting at the drunken hand of Louis Freeh as he made repeated attempts to grab her ass, hollering, "THIS is your GOOD SIDE, baby!", Cohn noted that the government was making claims that the solution to the DOD's admission of having made the physical and financial security of the nation and its citizens vulnerable to teenage hackers is to suppress the rights of the citizens to engage in free-speech. "If the government can engage in this type of deliberate masking of reality, then I should be able to hide my mole...dimple...", Cohn corrected herself. Scott McIntosh, appellate counsel for the Justice Department, who was drunkenly groping Freeh's ass while his attention was diverted, was trying to explain to local reportwhores that the basis of the U.S. government's case was not "prior restraint," but was, rather, "a preventative 'First Strike' against the danger of free speech in the hands of an unmonitored public." Louis Freeh, once again missing Cohn's tail end, but catching the tail end of McIntosh's statement, slapped him upside his head and screamed, "You're not supposed to tell them that, you fucking moron!" "John Gilmore, facing heated questions regarding his alleged anonymous death threat against the Ninth District Court judges, told reportwhores, "I'm not TruthMonger! I'm...Dimitri Vulis...yeah...and I'm dating Morgan Fairchild." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Canadian Nutly News is provided as a public service under the alleged auspices of the Electronic Forgery Foundation. Any misuse of the information provided by CNN is probably highly redundant. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Re: Fw: AAAAAAAAA Passw0rd3 for your curious fingers!
by B. Martin 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

======================================================= This Mexican bird called the bee martin ruffs its head feathers so they look like a flower. The honey bee lands therein. Or tries to. Doesn't make it. The bird -- snap, snap -- eats the bee. That's nature. Deceptive. Vicious. Rotten. ======================================================= LMBoyd Web Site / U. S. Newspapers / Start Email / Stop Email http://www.LMBoyd.com/postscript.htm

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feinstein and domestic crypto curbs
by landon dyer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

here's the text of a letter that i snail-mailed to california's senator dianne feinstein in early september: ---------------- Landon Dyer September 8, 1997 Campbell, CA Senator Dianne Feinstein United States Senate 331 Hart Senate Office Building Washington, D.C. 20510 Dear Senator Feinstein, I am writing this to you because of some statements you made last week in a Senate Judiciary committee on the subject of mandatory key escrow for domestic encryption products. To be frank: I was shocked and sickened by your statement that "nothing other than some form of mandatory key recovery really does the job" of preventing crime. I urge you to seek out experts in industry and talk to them about why this approach is fundamentally unworkable. I urge you to re-read 1984. I urge you to remember the abuses of the Hoover FBI. Mandatory key escrow is extremely dangerous stuff. I do not believe the government should have this power because of the enormous potential and temptation for its abuse. (Corruption does happen. Remember the case in California recently where DMV employees were selling driver's license information to supermarkets?). And any repository of escrowed keys would be a very attractive target for break-ins Mandatory key escrow would cripple important parts of our nation's software industry. Why should we do this just to make law enforcement's job a little easier? Americans need better, more ubiquitous encryption, not less, to protect us from crime. We don't need Big Brother, and that's exactly what mandatory escrow would give us. Sincerely, Landon Dyer Sr. Software Engineer ---------------- here's feinstein's reply, which i received a couple of days ago. i've transcribed it pretty carefully, and left the typos intact with [sic], any other typos are mine: ---------------- October 23, 1997 Dear Mr. Dyer: Thank you for contacting me regarding federal encryption policy. I appreciate your taking the time to write to me on this issues [sic]. It is important for me to hear from my California constituents as this debate continues. As you know, numerous legislative proposals have been put forth to amend or restructure encryption controls. Cryptographic, or encryption, software uses complex algorithms to scramble information, thus providing greater privacy for the information. I read your recent letter on encryption and believe that the attached San Jose Mercury News interview correctly states my views. As we both know, this is a complicated and difficult issue which affects many California constituencies. I am open to suggestions as to how vital privacy rights and public safety needs can be supported and protected. I value your opinion and appreciate you actively contributing to this legislative discusstion. As Congress proceeds to debate various encryption proposals, I look forward to a thorough review of this issue. While I want to promote business opportunity for U.S. firms I do not want to do so at the expense of law enforcement. Once again, thank you your [sic] correspondence. I hope that you will continue to share your thoughts and ideas with me. If I can be of further assistance, please to not hesitate to contact my Washington, D.C. office at 202/224-3841 With warmest personal regards, Sincerely yours, (signed) Dianne Feinstein Enclosure [enclosed: the 15-Sep-97 SJ Merc article on D.F.'s crypto curb support] -------------- nothing terribly surprising, really -- i wasn't expecting any response at all, though -landon

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NSA News
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

"National Cryptologic Strategy for the 21st Century": http://jya.com/nsa-ncs21.htm "UFO Documents Index" http://jya.com/nsa-ufo.htm "NSA's FOIA/PA Home Page" http://www.nsa.gov:8080/docs/efoia/ "National Vigilance Park" http://www.nsa.gov:8080/display/c130/ "During the Cold War period of 1945-1977, a total of more than 40 reconnaissance aircraft were shot down. The secrecy of the reconnaissance programs prevented recognition of the slain military personnel at the time of the incidents. Their loss was mourned by their fellow soldiers, sailors, airmen, and marines in similar programs, but the fallen could not be accorded public honors. The end of the Cold War has allowed the United States to lift some of its security restrictions concerning the reconnaissance programs, permitting us at last to accord due recognition of the achievements and sacrifices of these intrepid military personnel, and to tell their stories. "

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17 Dec '03

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Re: Remailer Trivia / Re: Singapore & Freedom (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: 8 Dec 1997 17:40:04 -0000 > From: Charlie Comsec <comsec(a)nym.alias.net> > Subject: Re: Remailer Trivia / Re: Singapore & Freedom > I find it interesting that most of the people who refer to anonymous > posters as "hiding behind" or "hiding behind the skirts of" something > usually have unlisted telephone numbers when you try to do a search > for them. <g> I wonder why "hiding behind" an unlisted telephone number > is considered acceptable but having an "unlisted" e-mail address is not > considered acceptable? > BTW, do you "hide behind" clothes when you walk on the street? If so, why? > Got something to hide? Huh? COWARD!!!! <g> Public anonymity and having an unlisted phone number are not even the same thing. An unlisted phone number is to reduce public exposure, anonymity is to enhance public exposure and secure plausible deniability. To have an analogous situation you would need to use a *listed* phone number registered to anonymous in such a way that ANI displayed the number but any directory search resulted in anonymous w/ no address or other tracing info even for the phone company. To the best of my knowledge no phone company anywhere will allow a customer to purchase service without identifying themselves to the phone company. Please let me know if there is such a beast somewhere. Generaly people wear clothes because it is convenient and required by social mores and legal statute. Put your money where you mouth is, send your bank acct. no. & PIN to the list....come on, you can trust US. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | | | We built your fort. We will not have it used against us. | | | | John Wayne - Allegheny Uprising | | | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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