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Re: How to reign the federal government in... (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 22:53:06 +0000 > From: "Douglas L. Peterson" <fnorky(a)chisp.net> > Subject: Re: How to reign the federal government in... > As per Article V, two thirds of the States can call a Convention to > propose Amendments. I believe this would be 33 of our current 50 states. > Territories and other holding would have no say in this. At this point, > if three fourths of the states agree to any proposed Amendments, it becomes > the law of the land. > > We only need two thirds of the States to start the process, but this > must be done by their Legislatures. Which is exactly what I said. The goal of the party would be to get proposed amendments on the floor each state legislature for vote. > > The IRS, for example, could be shut down tomorrow or significantly modified > > via this mechanism without involvement at the federal level. > > I assume this would be either by nullifying Amendment 15 or modifying it > to a great degree. Nothing else would work. That's the way I see it as well, which is the point after all. > > What is needed is a political party that has a representative site in each > > state capital. Their job is to get proposed amendments to the Constitution > > on the floor of each body for vote. > > Actually, it would not be to get the proposed amendments on the floor. You > would be putting the proposal for a Convention to amend the Constitution > on the floor. In addition, depending on the State, the party would likely > need to have a member elected to that States Legislature. Actualy it is. The Convention is only to create the amendment, the actual vote takes place in the state legislatures, not the convention. > That is why Article V was written as it was. It provides a backdoor to > keep the federal government from getting out of control. Absolutely. Now, let's kick the beggar in! ____________________________________________________________________ Technology cannot make us other than what we are. James P. Hogan The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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(fwd) Fishman > Pest Control
by hkhenson＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I know there are services which can recover at least some of the data on a formated disk. Does anyone have a pointer to them? Keith Henson PS, Please reply by email. I used to read this list, but it has been some time since I was here. I already asked the victum to quit using the disk. Xref: netcom.com alt.religion.scientology:150246 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: xenu(a)ix.netcom.com(STEVEN FISHMAN ) Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Subject: Fishman > Pest Control Date: 15 Feb 1996 02:58:35 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 190 Message-ID: <4fu7gr$f07(a)cloner4.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-ftl5-11.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Wed Feb 14 6:58:35 PM PST 1996 DECLARATION OF STEVEN FISHMAN 1. I, STEVEN FISHMAN, am a plaintiff and co-plaintiff along with Dr. Uwe W. Geertz in the case before the Superior Court of the State of California, in and for the County Los Angeles, known as Uwe Geertz and Steven Fishman vs. Church of Scientology International et. al., Case Number BC 122 467. 2. On Thursday, February 8, 1996, I received a phone call from a woman in a mature voice who said she was from Sonnys Pest Control Services. She said that she was introducing her company to the Sunshine Ranches subdivision of Fort Lauderdale and offered me a free pest control spraying of both inside and outside the house, at no cost or obligation. As I had not had a spraying done in five months due to my financial situation, I told her to send her representative to spray the house on Saturday afternoon, February 10, 1996. 3. On Saturday afternoon, about 3:00 P.M., two pest control workers arrived at the house. They introduced themselves as Eddie and Amy, and said they were from Sonnys Pest Control. They were very clean cut and had canisters of pest control spray. They both wore white shirts. Eddie had a tie on, and Amy was wearing denim shorts. Eddie shook my hand and told me that Amy was his sister. They were very friendly and knowledgeable about pest control. Eddie seemed genuinely concerned about my parrot, and said that the spray his company used would not hurt the bird, and also began describing three kinds of carpenter ants which his spray would contain. 4. Eddie began spraying the inside of the house and Amy suggested I show her which plants outside had the most ants. She was also very knowledgeable about plants and was very friendly and congenial. She was smiling a lot and I found her attractive so we spoke for about ten minutes outside. 5. We then went back inside and I told Eddie I liked their work and I would call them in a month if I were financially able to afford their services because I was currently looking for a job. Eddie asked me to write down his phone number so I could call him. I asked him for a business card but he said they were not ready yet. Amy asked if I was pleased with their service and I said it was very well done. I left a few minutes after they did to go pick up my daughter who was a hostess at the Renaissance Festival. 6. When I returned around 5:30 P.M., I turned on my computer and I found the screen blank except for the words c:\format c: and underneath it 100% formatted. Everything on my hard drive had been erased, including the rough drafts of my opposition motion to defendants notice of motion to quash service of process of David Miscavige and my opposition motion to defendants notice of motion and special motion to strike the second amended complaints of plaintiffs pursuant to C.C.P. § 425.16 (SLAPP Suit). Furthermore, all of my research, including my original complaint and all of my Internet files were simultaneously destroyed when my hard drive was formatted. 7. I checked the house and nothing had been taken. I had $ 40 in my wallet which was on a table in plain view in my bedroom and nothing was stolen from out of it. The sole purpose of these two pest control sprayers was to re-format my hard drive and render it impossible for me to send in my motions and also go on the Internet. I also had important correspondence on my hard disk with the Internal Revenue Service about my effort to overturn the tax exempt status of the Church of Scientology, as well as letters of complaints to the Food and Drug Administration regarding the Church of Scientologys Super VII E-Meter not being an approved device for the treatment of mental illness, and my complete file on the criminal activities of Church officials including Defendant Eugene Ingram is now gone. 8. At no time did Eddie and Amy mention anything about Scientology. They only talked about pest control, my bird, and the outdoor plants and their services. I tried calling the number Eddie gave me but it was not the number for Sonnys Pest Control Services, and the party who answered it said she has had that number for many years and I reached a trailer park near the Seminole Bingo on State Road 7. The woman said it was a wrong number and she never heard of Eddie or Amy. 9. I had been working on the preparation of two motions for the Status Conference for nearly a month, doing legal research and typing between 14 and 16 hours a day, without the benefit of legal help. When I lost all of my data, I had chest pains and became physically sick and depressed for several days and I remained in bed. All of the work I had done was gone and I was unable to locate these two people. 10. I cannot prove that these individuals were Scientologists or connected with the Office of Special Affairs. I do not even have their last names or even know if Eddie and Amy are their correct first names. I never thought of putting a password system on my computer because the only two people who use the computer are myself and my daughter Elysia. I had no backup of my data. 11. I called the Microsoft help line at (206) 646-5104 and spoke to a support engineer named David. I explained to David what had happened, and he assigned my problem a task number 14803868, and told me to use a recovery disk to get my DOS prompt back, so I could re-install Windows and the word processor software (Works for Windows). I was finally able to get the word processor loaded on Tuesday evening at 11:23 P.M. There was no time to re-write the opposition motions since the replies had to be in the Court file by Friday, February 16, 1996. 12. I am therefore joining with Dr. Geertzs two opposition motions because there is insufficient time to re-write my own opposition motions, and I do not want to ask the Court for a delay in order to prepare the motions over again, because I would have to pay a penalty for changing my non-refundable airline tickets for the Status Conference, which I cant afford. 13. I just wanted the Court to take notice of what happened to me as I believe it was a deliberate attempt to sabotage my legal work, and/or to keep me off the Internet because I have been a vocal critic of the Church of Scientology on the newsgroup alt.religion.scientology and on the International Relay Chat Channel #scientology as of late. And, as I said before, even though I believe I know who is responsible, I cant prove it. However, I would like the Court to take judicial notice of it in the event this type of operation occurs again or in a similar fashion to interfere with my right to litigate this case. 14. I declare under penalty of perjury that the aforementioned facts set forth are true and correct. Respectfully Submitted, Dated: February 14, 1996 ___________________________ Steven Fishman Plaintiff Pro Se 12980 S. W. 48th Street Fort Lauderdale, Florida 33330-2339

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Maturity Is Needed
by Mixmaster 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In response to: cyp >Jim Choate is so stupid that even when he accidentally gets something >right, he quickly "corrects" himself so that he is wrong again: > >> I had typed x/ln(x) as the asymptotic limit for the number of primes less >> than x. >> >> This is incorrect. It should be, >> >> x/log(x) >>Wrong, doofus. x/ln(x) is the correct asymptotic limit. What role could >>logs to the base 10 possibly play? Do you think God favors the number 10? >>What a fool you are!Your observations over the years usually seemed >>thoughtful, and intelligent, and therefore helpful. What an human waste this guy is. It reminds me of the old days of Reputation. A boorish attack reflects more poorly on the attacker than the victim, if it is an inappropriate attack. Even if stupid, or just mistkaen, a comment here is intended toward a larger, instructive purpose. This idiot just wastes bandwidth. Life's too short for this crap. Perhaps it's worth trying to reason with people a bit: Victorian times, like ours today, were a period of huge changes, which meant behavioral changes. It cannot be an accident that manners, good form, and respectable society merged into the legendary image of modern social graces. It was done of efficiency, and, so, of necessity. Inefficient entities decay in capitalism. Manners were needed for efficiency. Only today do they seem quaint, or insulting of class or social station. They were where the action was, among professionals trying to forge new economic relationships. This immature jerk is gonna lose. An Educated Observer

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Re: Netscape AOL Instant Messenger Confirmation (kB3bEjeb1I aohelsux)
by Paul H. Merrill 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>>Again, some clueless asshole that can't tell the difference between >>solicited responses and Unsolicited spam mouths off. If you would like >>to talk about someone, talk about the jerk who set up an AIM name using >>the outdated address, not the company that repsonded. >> >>PHM >> >>AKA PHMerrill(a)AOL.Com (among other names and addresses) > >Again, the clueless asshole known as Paul *H.* Merrill jumps up and defends >AOL, incompetently-written web sites, and morons everywhere. > I obviously don't defend morons everywhere -- I didn't defend Mr Anonymous. >Someone told AOL to mail cypherpunks(a)toad.com. AOL could have checked to see >if the originating site was under the toad.com domain. This is trivial. They >didn't. It's rather easy to just require that somebody trying to mail an >address under the toad.com domain submit the request from an address under >toad.com. > I regularly send from one domain while requesting a "something" to be dealt with through another domain. (A little something called work, for instance. Shoot, even the ACM.Org address doen't pass that check but it certainly is valid and unambiguously mine. >In other words, Paul, you believe that if somebody goes and types your >address into some system and asks it to send you 512MB of MPEG video, that's >okay because it was solicited. It wasn't solicited by you but somebody >solicited it. > My point exactly -- so when you want to ream someone for the half gig MPEG, ream the requester. >Oops. That's "blatent propoganda." I'd better rephrase. In other words, >Paul, you believe that if somebody goes and types YOUR address into fifty >different systems, signs you up for a bunch of mailing lists, and generally >causes you a lot of inconvenience, that's okay because it was solicited. You >don't know who it was solicited by, but somebody obviously did. If you then >object to the sites sending you mail rather than just silently >unsubscribing yourself every week, are you then just 'some clueless asshole'? > The totality is not Okay. But the individual systems that were solicited to send are not at fault, assuming that they give me an out. OTOH the asshole that requested it all is quite another topic. That "spammer" is the one that should be taken to task. >Are spammers now not to be held accountable for their spamming because they >bought a list of addresses from someone who claimed that the people all >asked to be on the mailing list? > there is a significant difference between buying a list and answering a request. Granted that the net effect of having a confirmation message sent to some one person shows little difference, but the methodology and intent are nt the same at all. >Why don't we just sign Cypherpunks up for Ignition-Point, the FP list, the >ACLU action advisories, Sixdegrees, and whatever else we can find? Or should >We just sign up Paul, really, because he doesn't have a problem with this. >In fact I'm sure we could make some 'marketting research' to show that he >might be interested. Hey let's get the entire CDR subscription list and >sign everybody up for FP and ACLU because if you're on Cypherpunks you're >obviously interested in those things. The analogous activities have been going on for many years and they have never been a Good Thing. > >The root of the problem is sites which require email addresses for no good >reason, and/or don't have the decency to perform a simple check to see if >the domains match. They're lazy. They're irresponsible. When confronted, no >matter how civil, they react much like you do, Paul, and they don't want to >be inconvenienced by having to fix their usually badly-designed web sites. > Anyone that believes that a domain check will do anything other than check a domain is delusional. Hey, they even think like the post awful -- one person, one email address. >If I recall correctly Tim has the same opinion and has stated it a few >times as have others so I'm not alone. > >Now I leave you, Paul, so you can go back to your 24 hour vigil and you and >your quick response team can scour the net for attacks against AOL and the >true clueless assholes, and defend them with your last breath. > Why, thank you. But it is not really needed. >Yet Another 'Clueless Asshole' > I never cease to be amazed at how little grasp of the concept of causality so many presumably technically literate people are today. When one wishes to remove a problem, it is a much better approach to attack the cause than to attack the symptom. PHM

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ATF funding voice recognition research
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

ATF - Proof of concept task - Prototype automated firearms licensing and verification system which integrated voice recognition and reverse voice recognition, telecommunication, Internet to query ATF database across LANs and WANs http://www.0-1.com/y_ats.htm The company doing the research seems to be a beltway-bandit ("minority owned" mil-welfare) type place. They're also evaluating sniffers for DISA... "Semtex --better than duct tape"

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Rootfest
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

http://slashdot.org/articles/98/11/26/1841245.shtml "RootFest is a conference for the computer underground, as well as the computer security professionals, engineers, networking people, feds, script kiddies, and anyone else who would like a chance to meet people and learn. When: RootFest 99 will be held May 21-23, 1999. Where: Minneapolis, Minnesota,..." RootMonger

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A tad more on Goldbach's...
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I figure I'll drop a couple of more points on this since nobody else seems to have twigged to them.... Goldbach's original conjecture is crap. There is NO way that 3 odd numbers will ever equal an even number. Odd + Odd is Even. Even + Odd is Odd. Fermat was a hell of a lot more charitable to the original assertion than I would have been. Goldbach's existing conjecture can be worded another way: Any even number may be represented by the sum of 3 even numbers provided two of the numbers are 1 less than a prime and we add 2. It's obvious that an even number can always be the sum of other even numbers, it's axiomatic. The question actualy is: Is the set of even numbers whose members are one less than the corresponding member of the primes sufficient, when added to 2, to sum to all the even numbers. As far as I can find nobody has written a lot on patterns of even numbers 1 less than the odds. There's not even a name for the set that I can find. As to somebodies assertion that an odd number can be represented by the sum of two odds, better study your math a tad better. Odd + Odd is *always* Even, never Odd. Happy Thanksgiving! ____________________________________________________________________ Technology cannot make us other than what we are. James P. Hogan The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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17 Dec '03

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Re: Securing data in memory (was "Locking physical memory (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 23:26:46 +0000 > From: "Frank O'Dwyer" <fod(a)brd.ie> > Subject: Re: Securing data in memory (was "Locking physical memory (fwd) > Jim Choate wrote: > > If I had 2 of the Samsung 4G memory modules w/ battery back-up I could run > > an entire machine without a hard-drive. > > If you had no hard drive why the hell would you worry about disk > swapping? I wouldn't because I'd have enough RAM to cover the requisite resources of my OS and apps. You have the cart before the horse. ____________________________________________________________________ Technology cannot make us other than what we are. James P. Hogan The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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