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Re: Netly interviews Donna Rice-Hughes and Sen. Coats staffer
by William H. Geiger III 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In <v03007812afda0e1988c9(a)[168.161.105.191]>, on 06/27/97 at 08:41 PM, Declan McCullagh <declan(a)well.com> said: >[The day before the CDA decision came down, I interviewed David Crane >from Sen. "CDA II Real Soon Now" Coats' office and Noah interviewed Donna >Rice-Hughes. Recall Coats was the chief GOP sponsor of the original CDA. >Here are excerpts. --Declan] Hi Declan, What Noah forgot to ask: "Ms. Rice, considering your previous occupation as a two-bit whore during the '88 election why should the American public take anything you do seriously?" - -- - --------------------------------------------------------------- William H. Geiger III http://www.amaranth.com/~whgiii Geiger Consulting Cooking With Warp 4.0 Author of E-Secure - PGP Front End for MR/2 Ice PGP & MR/2 the only way for secure e-mail. OS/2 PGP 2.6.3a at: http://www.amaranth.com/~whgiii/pgpmr2.html - --------------------------------------------------------------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: cp850 Comment: Registered_User_E-Secure_v1.1b1_ES000000 iQCVAwUBM7Rn1Y9Co1n+aLhhAQFONQQAmXFnvVB91lciCIYIGQv9y8fq+j5zwbz3 r+BE0Q0VpXc+APVpUxqbO5OEb0NRO6+epRgkXn09hInpXFiqnPegprh2otuEPsKP 4IeMOBullzkI1CvXWNBNDZ5Xd9Q9IGWX1Qax7Xi3Dou6UlFQ+3LI3/F2Vn/fqWZv seogXEJLtYY= =U+/2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Cray/NSA Info
by Anonymous User 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

SUBJECT: CRAY COMPUTER CORP. AWARDED DEVELOPMENT CONTRACT FOR CRAY-3/SUPER SCALABLE SYSTEM COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo., Aug. 17 /PRNewswire/ via INDIVIDUAL, Inc. -- Cray Computer Corp. (Nasdaq: CRAY) and the National Security Agency (NSA) have entered into a joint development contract, valued at up to $9.2 million, to produce a CRAY-3/Super Scalable System (SSS). The CRAY-3/SSS will be a hybrid high performance system that will offer vector parallel processing, scalable parallel processing and the combination of both. Under the terms of the contract, Cray Computer Corp. will be paid up to $4.2 million for development costs, and the Government will provide approximately $400,000 in software consulting services. The company is responsible for the balance of the development costs. In addition, the company will have rights to use certain Government technologies. George Cotter, chief scientist for the NSA stated, "NSA selected Cray Computer Corp. to develop the CRAY-3/Super Scalable System because of its advanced technologies and the CRAY-3 architecture. This is an important initiative of the Federal High Performance Computing and Communications (HPCC) program." Chuck Breckenridge, executive vice president for Cray Computer Corp., noted, "The CRAY-3/SSS will provide unparalleled performance for many promising applications. We are pleased to participate in this transfer of Government technology and we are eager to help potential customers explore and develop appropriate applications." This development project is based on a September 1993 feasibility study recommending a hybrid supercomputer composed of a CRAY-3 and a large number of Processor-In-Memory (PIM) chips, developed by the Supercomputing Research Center (SRC: Institute for Defense Analyses). The SRC will provide significant technical assistance in both the software and hardware aspects of the system. The Government's technology transfer program is intended to maintain the country's technology leadership position by providing a cost sharing arrangementfor development and commercialization of advanced Government technologies. The high performance system will consist of a dual processor 256 million word CRAY-3 and a 512,000 processor 128 million byte Single Instruction- Multiple Data (SIMD) array. This CRAY-3/Super Scalable System will provide high-performance vector parallel processing, scalable parallel processing and the combination of both in a hybrid mode featuring extremely high bandwidth between the PIM processor array and the CRAY-3. SIMD arrays of 1 million processors are expected to be available using the current version of the PIM chip once this development project is completed. The scalable array will connect to the CRAY-3 memory interface and will be addressable as standard memory to facilitate use of the SIMD array with minimal delays for data transfer. The PIM chip, containing 64 single bit processors and 128K bits of memory, was developed by the Supercomputing Research Center for NSA, and tested on a Sun/SPARC workstation with a parallel version of the C language. Cray Computer Corp. will package PIM chips utilizing its advanced multiple chip module (MCM) packaging technology that allows the CRAY-3 to operate with a record breaking 2.08 nanosecond clock rate. The PIM chips are manufactured by National Semiconductor Corp. The CRAY-3/SSS is expected to be demonstrated in the first quarter of 1995. After this initial demonstration, interested parties will be invited to try out other applications. The CRAY-3 memory interface bandwidth will allow the application specific SIMD array to provide dramatic performance improvements over existing architectures for bit and image processing, pattern recognition, signal processing, and sophisticated graphics applications. A notable strength of the SIMD processor array is variable precision floating point for those frequently occurring applications requiring less (and sometimes more) than the standard 64 bit IEEE floating point arithmetic. A substantial applications base is available for the CRAY-3 and Cray Computer Corp. is committed to working closely with customers to develop traditional high performance vector and scalable applications. For suitable applications, the SIMD processor array option offers up to 32 Trillion Bit Operations per Second and provides price/performance unavailable today on any other high performance platform. The CRAY-3 system with the SSS option will be offered as an application specific product and will be well positioned in the evolving supercomputer marketplace. Seymour Cray stated that, "The CRAY-3/SSS development project leverages the Company's existing technologies and accelerates our program to develop parallel architectures and software to reach the TeraFLOPS performance level. I see a strong SIMD architectural component as crucial to a complete parallel supercomputer capability." Cray Computer Corp. is engaged in the design, development, manufacture and marketing of CRAY-3, CRAY-3/SSS, and CRAY-4 supercomputer systems. /CONTACT: Terry Willkom, president, or William Skolout, CFO, 719-679- 6464, both of Cray Computer; or Mary Ann Phillips, director of Corporate Communications, of National Semiconductor, 408-721-2646/ (CRAY)

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Re: In Search of Genuine DigiCash
by rah＠shipwright.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 10:06 AM 8/21/94 -0700, Hal wrote: >One difference between ecash and bonds is that bonds generally pay interest >(to the bond holder, not to the lender!), while ecash may not. I also >suspect that most ecash will have a fixed maximum lifetime beyond which it >is no good, due to technical problems in keeping lists of spent notes. So >it would not necessarily be callable in theway Bob describes. We could equivocate back and forth about who the lender is in this case. It's the behavior of the financial instrument I'm talking about. At some point, the principal goes away and has to be called from wherever it is (a bank account, the money market, etc.) to meet a cashed-out piece of digicash. In the meantime it earns interest. Thus it has principal, and interest, and it is called. It's a callable bond. If it has a fixed maturity, it's still a callable bond. If it's a perpetuity, it's a callable bond. It doesn't matter who gets the interest. It doesn't matter what the exchange fees are, it still behaves like a callable bond. The market will pay discounts or premia on them, and thus price them, just like any other fixed income instrument with a call provision. A callable bond, in other words. I'm not sure the lifetime issue is a big deal now, because the durations on these instruments are probably going to be pretty short. Like I said before, people will eventually get used to hanging on to digital cash until they need to spend it. That keeps it out of circulation longer, and the duration up. At some point in time people will spend a piece of digital cash several times before it goes back to the bank. That will keep the duration up also. >Fair? Who cares? The question is, is it useful? Sure it is. I'd rather >use cash which bore interest than that which didn't! Sure, it's a little >more complicated to buy something with notes which are worth $1.05 - $1.10 >than $1.00, but that's what computers are for. The value increase accrues >to whomever holds the note during the time they hold it. I think the complexity is probably not worth it. Suppose you get a piece of digital cash that's been out there a while, say 10 years (it's not likely, ever, but I'm using it to make a point). 1 dollar at say 10% compounded for ten years is 2.59. It's like winning the lottery, for no reason except the person you last transacted business with paid you old cash for what you sold him. It's not fair. That's what I meant by not fair. >>The solution is, keep the interest, use the money to fund the issuer's >>operations. If that's not enough, charge exchange fees. A competitive >>market will sort out who's got the most efficient operations, and thus >>ecash users get ecash at its most efficient price. > >Sure; just don't say "the solution is". You issue non interest bearing >notes and live on the float; I issue interest notes and live off the >exchange fees. Let the market decide. Agreed. "A solution is", then. There are many ways to skin a cat. I think you'll find that the overhead of my system beats yours, and lets me price my cash more competitively in an efficient market. That's why I said "the solution is". Cheers, Bob Hettinga ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) "There is no difference between someone Shipwright Development Corporation who eats too little and sees Heaven and 44 Farquhar Street someone who drinks too much and sees Boston, MA 02331 USA snakes." -- Bertrand Russell (617) 323-7923

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Details of HR 666
by lucifer＠dhp.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Under clause 0 of rule XYZ, the following action was taken by the > Speaker: > > H.R. 666. A bill to amend title 0, United States Code, to > affirm the rights of U.S. persons to breathe the air around > them and to relax export controls on wind; with an > amendment; referred to the Committees on Commerce, National > Security, and the Permanent Select Committee on intelligence > for a period ending not later than September 5, 1997, for > consideration of such provisions of the bill and amendment > reported by the Committee on the Judiciary as fall within the > jurisdiction of those committees pursuant to clause 0(e) and > (k), rule XYZ and rule XLVIIIX, respectively.

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Re: ecash-info
by rah＠shipwright.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 1:02 PM 8/19/94 -0700, Eric Hughes wrote: > Anyway, when I screwed up the guts to ask, Chaum told me that the going > price for the underwriter's license/code was $275K plus a percentage of the > net profits. > >It's no small wonder that he's not gotten anywhere. Anybody who wants >an operational cut of a finance system is asking for way more money >than anybody might want to pony up. A bank (or similar) wants to buy >technology, not a partner. Here I was thinking it was common knowlege, and that's why I never said anything about it. I have to say that I have several friends who build real good financial models for portfolio analytics, and they get a cut of the trading profits. A bank is one of his customers. Of course, they're in Switzerland. I'm sure it happens on this side of the Atlantic with people who do currency analysis. Soft dollar stuff is a pretty common way to pay for research and software. That said, I think that there are probably cleaner ways for him to make money, like leasing his software, for instance. > the increase in traffic about his inactivity in promotion leads me to > believe that he's either working hard in getting his product market-ready, > which makes sense, or he's dropping the ball, which I would charitably say > is an unfair reading of the facts. > >A third possibility is that he's just not getting anywhere. If you >want too much money for what someone else is willing to pay, you don't >make a sale. Agreed. I was trying not to tread on the sainted reputation of the master by using the word "charitable". I count your "third possibility" under "dropping the ball", by the way. In fairness, it may be true that he's really trying to bring something to market. We may never know until we read about it on the front page of the Wall Street Journal, or in the same paper's legal notices... >There are three potential benefits from any Internet money system: > >1. The ability to transact and settle to the outside banking system. [snip] >Here's the crux. ONLY property one has large and direct and immediate >economic benefits to the issuer. [snip] >If you were a bank, would you pick system 1, 2, or 3? System one will >result in direct customer fees. [snip] >So, with these three kinds of transaction systems in competition with >each other, which do you think will win? > >Let me answer that for you. It's system 1. > >Now Chaum wants to offer system 3, and it's expensive to purchase. >Surprised at lack of success? Not at all. I think you're right. It goes back to the haggle we had when I first joined this list. I learned rather quickly that privacy ain't necessarily the point here. The technology of privacy, in particular strong crypto, yields something useful in a much larger arena digicash and other e$. Privacy is a beneficial byproduct of immediate and final clearing on the internet through digicash. It is not necessary and sufficient for it's use. It's possible that Chaum is immersed in the cryptographic details that he thinks that privacy is digicash's primary selling point. It certainly is the enabling technology. However, it seems that his marketing approach to date has been more product driven ("Look, you can fly, and we'll let you do it, but you'll have to do it our way.") possibly sales driven ("C'mon, fly, and I won't bother you anymore."), but certainly not market driven ("Look what you can do if you fly!"). Cheers, Bob Hettinga ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) "There is no difference between someone Shipwright Development Corporation who eats too little and sees Heaven and 44 Farquhar Street someone who drinks too much and sees Boston, MA 02331 USA snakes." -- Bertrand Russell (617) 323-7923

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Re: Digital Signatures and the Law...
by some days weren't there at all 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Has there been any concideration for the difference between a digital > signature that is used only for authentication and one that is legally > binding?? What's the difference? When I sign a contract, I'm simply giving notice that I accept its terms and conditions. What I write in snail mail, however, may also be used in a court of law to show that I actually thought or wrote whatever it was I wrote. Why would e-mail be any different? > I would hate for these Digital Signature Laws make every e-mail message I > sent a legally binding document. :( That's the rub about nailing down identity...there's no such thing as plausible deniability anymore. In a court of law, assuming you could prove to a judge and jury that digi sigs establish identity beyond a reasonable doubt, I'd imagine that anything signed, law or no law, would be legally binding insofar as you actually wrote it. I think I'm missing something...? --------------------- "Deities do not fall ten floors to the basement" - Willis pandemic(a)hotmail.com please contact for PGP public key. http://www.skylink.net/~bigdaddy

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17 Dec '03

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Re: Dr. Dobbs Cryptography and Security CD-ROM
by Alex de Joode 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Peter Gutmann sez: [..] : What makes this case especially awkward is the fact that the CDROM can't : legally be sold outside the US, which means the only way the rest of the world : can get it is through illegal copies. Given the immense usefulness of : something like this, I'd say it's only a matter of time before bootleg copies : start appearing outside the US, but because of the USG's position we can't pay : for it even if we want to (DDJ wouldn't look too good if they accepted payment : for what they knew was illegally exported crypto). Perhaps a donation of the : same amount to charity would serve as some equivalent to payment... It would be nice to see a Dr. Dobbs CD at the HIP ... -- -aj-

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17 Dec '03

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