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Re: federal crime
by moormajb＠vuse.vanderbilt.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>>Date: Tue, 29 Mar 1994 05:52:22 -0800 >>From: Jack King <gjk(a)well.sf.ca.us> >> >>In Texas, Louisiana and Mississippi, it is now a federal crime to state >>orally or in writing to any federal administrative or law enforcement >>officer, during the course of an official investigation that you don't know >>what they are talking about if in fact you do. >How can something be a federal crime in only 3 states? I think he probably meant "felony" not "federal crime."

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Re: Thank you, John Gilmore, for protecting freedom of spee
by paul＠fatmans.demon.co.uk 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Ironic how the list championed flooding Germany(?) with material in response to their > suppression of certain "objectionable" material, then gets into this sticky wicket. Absolutely, As much as I might hate Vulis`s stuff (and believe me I do). It is no justification for removing him from the list. We are supposed to be a platform for the discussion of cryptography but as the list has become more and more a libertarian platform for ideas and discussion we cannot really justify censorship in this way. I very much wish I could say that I agreed with John but I cannot do so with a clear conscience. Datacomms Technologies web authoring and data security Paul Bradley, Paul(a)fatmans.demon.co.uk Paul(a)crypto.uk.eu.org, Paul(a)cryptography.uk.eu.org Http://www.cryptography.home.ml.org/ Email for PGP public key, ID: 5BBFAEB1 "Don`t forget to mount a scratch monkey"

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New Crypto Regs
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Thanks to Ed Roback, NIST: BXA issued a press release today on new crypto regulations: http://www.bxa.doc.gov/press/98/1230encryption.html (copy below) The regs themselves are available today only in hardcopy in Washington DC on display at the Federal Register, but the electronic version will be published in the Federal Register tomorrow and will be on the BXA Web site <www.bxa.doc.gov>. Anybody in DC who could get a copy of the hardcopy and fax it to us, it would be appreciated: Fax: (212) 799-4003 Vox: (212) 873-8700 ---------- Commerce Updates Export Controls on Encryption Products (Washington, D.C.) The Commerce Department will publish new regulations significantly streamlining government export controls on powerful encryption -- products that scramble computer data -- as part of the Clinton Administration initiatives to make government more efficient and enhance the global competitiveness of U.S. businesses. These amendments to the Export Administration Regulations, on public notice today at the Federal Register, end the need for licenses for powerful U.S. encryption products to companies worldwide in several important industry sectors after a one time review by the Commerce Department. The regulations implement the policy changes announced by Vice President Gore in September. "Through the hard work of industry and government officials to finalize this regulation, U.S. encryption firms will be better able to compete effectively with encryption manufacturers around the world," said William A. Reinsch, Commerce Under Secretary for Export Administration. Virtually eliminated are restrictions on selling powerful computer data scrambling products to subsidiaries of U.S. corporations. There will also be favorable licensing treatment to strategic partners of U.S. companies. Strong U.S.-made encryption products are now available, under license exception, to insurance companies headquartered in 46 countries and their branches worldwide. Sales of powerful encryption to health and medical organizations in the same countries are also eased. To facilitate secure electronic transactions, between on-line merchants in those same countries, and their customers, the updated regulations permit, under a license exception, the export of client-server applications (e.g. SSL) and applications tailored to on-line transactions to on-line merchants. A list of eligible countries is posted on the BXA web-site. Further easing government restrictions are new allowances for U.S. encryption manufacturers to share their source code with their own foreign subsidiaries (while requiring that any resulting new products remain subject to U.S. regulation ) and streamlining reporting requirements for U.S. firms so that compliance is less burdensome. The new regulations expand the policy of encouraging the use of recoverable encryption by removing the requirement to name and approve key recovery agents for exports of key recovery products from regulations. It also defines a new class of "recoverable" encryption products which can now be exported under Export Licensing Arrangements to foreign commercial firms for internal company proprietary use. As part of its stated goal to balance the needs of national security and public safety with the desire to protect personal privacy and strong electronic commercial security, the Administration continues to encourage the development and sale of products which enable the recovery of the unscrambled data, in an emergency situation. Finally, the regulations eliminate the need to obtain licenses for most encryption commodities and software up to 56-bits or equivalent strength. [End]

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Re: Transmission of Crypto material and ITAR
by Benjamin Grosman 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>The answer is that no one knows, but if the doctrines that apply to >cargo in transit between countries applied, there would be no >consequence to it. Of course, that doesn't mean that there will not be >consequences associated with this given U.S. governmental insanity. Or it could be dealt with differently, as with a ship that docks for refueling carrinyg munitions (a catergory shared with crypto), or nuclear waste (not quite, but you get my point...) Ben ---------------------------------------------------------------- Benjamin Grosman - Programmer, Magna Data Internet Solutions Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur. [Whatever is said in Latin sounds profound.] ----------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Private property & the cypherpunks list(s)
by Greg Broiles 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 09:04 AM 2/13/97 -0600, Igor Chudov @ home wrote: > >This is where the distributed nature of the list comes in. > >if someone disagrees with Jim's AUP, he or she can use soem other >mailing list host. Is this the policy of the majordomo network, that individual list operators can make their own policies for their subscribers, but may not/cannot impose them on other list operators or the other lists' members? It sounds very reasonable, but it would be nice to be clear about whether or not this is the case. Are there any rules (other than "no rules") which apply to all lists/list operators/list subscribers? Can there ever be any? Who would write the rules, and who must agree to them in order for them to take effect? Can individual list operators be forced to or forbidden to "peer" with other machines, or are these "peer" relationships up to each list operator? -- Greg Broiles | US crypto export control policy in a nutshell: gbroiles(a)netbox.com | http://www.io.com/~gbroiles | Export jobs, not crypto. |

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Re: Cato forum on liquor advertising and electronic media
by Blanc 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tim May wrote: >By the way, the conventional (if flaky) wisdom in the 1950s was that >cigarette smoking was good for one's health (a "digestive"). Had the FCC >and FDA had the powers then that they have now, cigarette ads would have >been _required_. ...................................................... Just as the govt is inclined to keep databases of our sins, would it be nice to also have a long account of their faults, for posterity. Something to display in arguments and debates, to present to a candid world (in the words of the Declaration of Independence) just cause for our grievances against it and convincing proof why it is not wise to blindly follow leaders, for yay - sometimes they err, and sometimes one gets the shaft. There are many books presenting detailed accounts of govt follies, but had I the time & inclination I would arrange them into a database table for ease in appreciation, with categories like: Policy/Law Purpose Date Instigated Actual Effects/Consequences Date Retracted Results Not that I would want to create a dark picture of govt, but only to create a dark picture of the logic of those who would give us no choice in these matters.

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Banned French Book Online
by Declan B. McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

As Tim May noted a few messages ago, the French government censored a book written by the physician to their late president, Francois Mitterrand. An enterprising fellow in eastern France scanned it into 189 pages of GIF files and put it online. Now the French police have arrested him, ostensibly on unrelated charges. I'm putting the complete version of the banned book, _Le Grand Secret_, online -- you can find it on the following identical sites: http://web.mit.edu/afs/athena/contrib/bitbucket2/le-grand-secret/secret/ http://www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/user/declan/www/le-secret/complete/ http://robotweb.ri.cmu.edu/afs/cs/user/declan/www/le-secret/complete/ http://mousa.dcs.gla.ac.uk/~stephane/secret/ Since the combined size of the files is 9 MB, Seth Finkelstein and I stripped the images from 4 bpp to 1 bpp (greyscale to monochrome), and reduced the combined size to 2 MB. The stripped GIF files are on: http://www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/user/declan/www/le-secret/reduced/ http://robotweb.ri.cmu.edu/afs/cs/user/declan/www/le-secret/complete/ http://web.mit.edu/afs/cs.cmu.edu/user/declan/www/le-secret/complete/ http://joc.mit.edu/le-secret/reduced-gifs.tar [tar file] http://joc.mit.edu/le-secret/reduced-gifs.tar.gz [compressed tar file] Related stories and commentary are available at the following identical sites: http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~declan/ http://www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/user/declan/www/le-secret/ http://www.well.com/~declan/le-secret/ http://robotweb.ri.cmu.edu/afs/cs/user/declan/www/le-secret/ http://web.mit.edu/afs/cs.cmu.edu/user/declan/www/le-secret/ -Declan

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Latest info on new Microsoft Visual Tools
by VTDirector 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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No Subject
by Andrew.Spring＠ping.be 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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17 Dec '03

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