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Re: Crypto'09 Rump session to be webcast
by james hughes 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

This year's rump session will include A Live Trojan Message for MD5 A New Security Analysis of AES-128 In how many ways can you break Rijndael? Alice and Bob Go to Heaven The full agenda has been posted at http://rump2009.cr.yp.to/ On Aug 14, 2009, at 11:56 AM, james hughes wrote: > The first Crypto rump session took place in 1981 and was immediately > heralded as the most important meeting in cryptography. Each > subsequent Crypto rump session has reached a new level of historical > significance, outstripped only by the Crypto rump sessions that > followed it. > > The Crypto2009[1] Rump Session[2] will be broadcast live[3] starting > at Tuesday, August 18th at 7:30pm to 11pm (PST/UTC-7)[4]. Download > calendar event (ics)[5] > > [1] http://www.iacr.org/conferences/crypto2009/ > [2] http://rump2009.cr.yp.to/ > [3] http://qtss.id.ucsb.edu/crypto2009/rump.sdp > [4] http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=8&day=18&year=2009&h… > [5] http://www.iacr.org/conferences/crypto2009/Crypto2009RumpSessionWe.ics > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > The Cryptography Mailing List > Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe cryptography" to majordomo(a)metzdowd.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- The Cryptography Mailing List Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe cryptography" to majordomo(a)metzdowd.com

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[FoRK] Operation See-No-Evil
by Contempt for Meatheads 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

Did anybody catch the bit from the Daily Show last night w/ the Cheney interview --- "in his secret lair?" Dude, WTF? He looked like he was in some kind of darkened mad scientist's lab prepping for doomsday. Seriously, the room was full of all this unidentifiable and slightly ominous-looking (in half-second glimpses) equipment, and was lit like the set where Luke fights the Emperor. Bizarre stuff. I always thought the sets for the Pres and friends in 24 were kind of bizarre, but apparently our upper echelon's real digs are even weirder. (Aside: great bit from JS last night, where he cuts directly from claims Cheney made about not saying something to footage that directly contradicts this. Fucking liars. I'd have a lot more respect for them if they respected their public's intelligence more themselves.) Well, not content to merely be in the undisclosed location, apparently he's gunning to be removed from essential public documents as well. I didn't know whether to entitle this one "Operation See-No-Evil" or "Operation No Legacy." ;-) -- http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2004/06/22/cheney_cia/? source=RSS Cheney may disappear from intel report Will Dick Cheney's name get scrubbed from the Senate Intelligence Committee report that by all accounts is highly critical of prewar intelligence -- which he played a big role in? This Time magazine piece says the CIA is pressing to have even titles removed from the report to make the actors in the prewar intelligence drama, including Cheney, unrecognizable. "To suggestions that the redaction request could be interpreted as an effort to provide political cover for Cheney, a CIA official responds that 'the purpose of declassification review is to protect intelligence sources, methods and other classified matters which, if disclosed, could be helpful to adversaries, like weapons proliferators and terrorists. It is not to stifle criticism.' Leaders of the Senate panel don't see it the same way. 'The Committee is extremely disappointed by the CIA?s excessive redactions to the report,' Chairman Pat Roberts, a Kansas Republican, and Vice Chairman Jay Rockefeller, and West Virginia Democrat, said in a statement last week, without mentioning any specific CIA-proposed edits." -- Geraldine Sealey [08:25 PDT, June 22, 2004] _______________________________________________ FoRK mailing list http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07078, 11.61144 http://www.leitl.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE http://moleculardevices.org http://nanomachines.net [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature]

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by None 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

<CYBERIA-L(a)LISTSERV.AOL.COM> Sender: Law & Policy of Computer Communications <CYBERIA-L(a)LISTSERV.AOL.COM> From: Seth Johnson <seth.johnson(a)REALMEASURES.DYNDNS.ORG> Organization: Real Measures Subject: Outreach Volunteers Needed - Content Control is a Dead End To: CYBERIA-L(a)LISTSERV.AOL.COM I'm sending this because I am looking for concerned individuals who understand the importance of the following cause: Content control is a dead end. The legal tradition in copyright has always drawn a distinction between facts and ideas on one hand, which nobody can own; and expression on the other hand, which is what has been allowed to be copyrighted. The thing is, data elements are facts, whether they are part of an expressive work or not. Free speech, the use of information and the very purpose of copyright are being revised by publishers and other "content" stakeholders by means of "content" control measures, such as the American Digital Millennium Copyright Anticircumvention Act, and the provisions of the international TRIPS treaty. Currently, a Russian citizen, Dmitry Sklyarov, is being prosecuted for felony charges under the DMCA, for work he did in developing software that decrypts the Adobe e-Book. The Copyright Clause in the US Constitution is geared toward allowing Congress to grant artificial monopolies ("exclusive Right" for "limited Times" to "Writings and Discoveries") in order to "promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts." It does not grant copyright as a natural right, and it does not provide for the superseding of free speech by this power of Congress. Do you agree that content control must not be allowed to enable copyright to supersede our free speech right to process and distribute information? We need outreach volunteers and coordinators who wish to help get the word out about what is going on, and to build the constituency of those who are affected by these developments. If you agree that content control must not be allowed to enable copyright to supersede free speech rights, then please contact me, or subscribe to the C-FIT Content Control Outreach discussion list by sending an email saying "subscribe C-FIT_Release_Community" to ListServ(a)realmeasures.dyndns.org. Seth Johnson seth.johnson(a)RealMeasures.dyndns.org Information Producers Initiative Basic Position Statement: http://realmeasures.dyndns.org/C-FIT/Theory1.htm ********************************************************************** For Listserv Instructions, see http://www.lawlists.net/cyberia Off-Topic threads: http://www.lawlists.net/mailman/listinfo/cyberia-ot Need more help? Send mail to: Cyberia-L-Request(a)listserv.aol.com ********************************************************************** --- end forwarded text -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)ibuc.com> The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' --------------------------------------------------------------------- The Cryptography Mailing List Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe cryptography" to majordomo(a)wasabisystems.com

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Lucrative update
by Patrick 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

Lucrative release 4 is out. I know many people are used to seeing releases numbered like "0.000001", "0.000002", "2.0.3.0.14.657" etc. but release numbering systems are essentially arbitrary in nature so don't get excited as Lucrative goes toward version 50+. This release is a fairly minor one, but included some changes such as the client name that I wanted to get out as soon as possible. There is also a new development weblog at http://lucrative.thirdhost.com/weblog/. I went through an install with someone over IRC last night and made a blog entry summarizing the install notes. I recommend reading the notes before attempting an install. I am glad to help with an install, drop me a note at patrick(a)lfcgate.com if you have trouble. Some documentation on the various entities in the Lucrative system is now available on the website, http://lucrative.thirdhost.com/documentation.php but more is needed and coming. If Lucrative is interesting to you, please consider helping in any way you can: Feedback Installation reports Suggestions Comments Criticism Feature requests Source code patches Donations Are all very much welcomed. And criticism is more useful to me than praise. My sincere thanks to everyone who has participated so far by installing, testing, providing feedback, spreading the word, and donating. And finally I just received word from SourceForge that the project registration for Lucrative has been approved. Regards, Patrick -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.3 for non-commercial use <http://www.pgp.com> mQGiBD5ECKcRBADUvjXHwLtxIyS4AyjBs/dFtN6rdeP18Fhzh1hD5fJwkFevqY9Z I1ASROTh6eXYF7pU5sEvbcPshHyTB41ZtTqZvQvpwWN0fUzOuutuI0mtC5UPp9Rz j47SdWLdEXNHjwnHDCYSyqtqZu8GujGRQybR0eP3NIh/NwbSDUKdgz7IjwCg//Jo UtjP3zUFobm/0UYA+CJ5krED/091x9Js0gwNwvjbzM8DqO+r8qNz0kXI13FkrPRk QNd37lxt6m2m8HZD1WYM2wKwtMzHSwJcWzaDZ/tNc+ppYjzpw0EQCh9FqjGs8Vau guF6PA1M8lJTCcLKaL4e7ynic+PAw5Xa/tdOYgFCG+eLMU5RLvzRCYoOLIjgMJLJ yG98BACAMlDmFVYgC/UKvzZmHfZ5CtCKd8sPfCXrYLu5NeFRE0LR6D6zjzmhi1xX okfreR5o3T/y78VBM98js+m2/+7Z0AElqydeW/RnV1zqwDGjDr9z2MgARf3yLAbs n3BU8Fz61RwvHy6cRkT+2dR2f69QQUSpkupvLwZIGX/iwm4uKLQdUGF0cmljayA8 cGF0cmlja0BsZmNnYXRlLmNvbT6JAE4EEBECAA4FAj5ECKcECwMCAQIZAQAKCRBb mvb9yuOVfaA2AKDAu5tDj9F2KI8cJMrKKkQRAcUyxACg6/bei7lUJH+E5igJqGRx SjKrRA65BA0EPkQIpxAQAPkYoH5aBmF6Q5CV3AVsh4bsYezNRR8O2OCjecbJ3HoL rOQ/40aUtjBKU9d8AhZIgLUV5SmZqZ8HdNP/46HFliBOmGW42A3uEF2rthccUdhQ yiJXQym+lehWKzh4XAvb+ExN1eOqRsz7zhfoKp0UYeOEqU/Rg4Soebbvj6dDRgjG zB13VyQ4SuLE8OiOE2eXTpITYfbb6yUOF/32mPfIfHmwch04dfv2wXPEgxEmK0Ng w+Po1gr9oSgmC66prrNlD6IAUwGgfNaroxIe+g8qzh90hE/K8xfzpEDp19J3tkIt AjbBJstoXp18mAkKjX4t7eRdefXUkk+bGI78KqdLfDL2Qle3CH8IF3KiutapQvMF 6PlTETlPtvFuuUs4INoBp1ajFOmPQFXz0AfGy0OplK33TGSGSfgMg71l6RfUodNQ +PVZX9x2Uk89PY3bzpnhV5JZzf24rnRPxfx2vIPFRzBhznzJZv8V+bv9kV7HAarT W56NoKVyOtQa8L9GAFgr5fSI/VhOSdvNILSd5JEHNmszbDgNRR0PfIizHHxbLY72 88kjwEPwpVsYjY67VYy4XTjTNP18F1dDox0YbN4zISy1Kv884bEpQBgRjXyEpwpy 1obEAxnIByl6ypUM2Zafq9AKUJsCRtMIPWakXUGfnHy9iUsiGSa6q6Jew1XrPdYX AAICD/wKwtF7Y4NKBe8PQ6jDbjWziiTv9Ac/EnRTJDQEoqgLa2LyE+6Ahw/VPGvp mfxkD2MKxC9E7kYVmasn6sHnSpvAv3e7O1Bqbo/qLzzCcJQ5VCurZ+elRM1GZ4Oc fM19FPKutb0/JFEv0nrqS4BGkF7WFBbu5dKYl/GIO7Co1mAerFIb719dOwMPVEIz OT08u8uB9jyR8gEElf+CVuNfOUkrUGg4HS4SbmTTrCSz3/8n5PkquSuAyjCB/dwM ZsZwA0/TTR8sDYlmlf9xPj5PGpGnV9OUwfig6eE0eWtRFeasmz0uiX+yp45ABtNh 6EXP/PFaBgXi9omXXjeeFYfpDvmfA6izvTIQfXTV6V9ZWrBfXarM+GQ+6guXWVbd 9fXvmCr982LkzuKQrK1OpRXBMUapXL+tOy/LYzz91InqKKhgPNGa12fvotZ4LzlM iqoM+Hpz5L9B5We1Ph0lD6RBVXDCqd+P8extnY/7AaDy7tC0UghaAaUuEZXJQPIc oQ3QGbpjM0nGe/VZN5EZhljau0NNENFaU56cOpvOhcO04gLGNNc2NS+rIpTMsaHh o1CG90c5zZZJuUbyx0mIHriNQXDgEwunSZPQorKK9KSppyyjeuOyi5F/mBBPXeyT weLhLqLvAr9se/+Z3aQvMADJi8zUZtGggLTw+N9R5XSwtSh2R4kARgQYEQIABgUC PkQIpwAKCRBbmvb9yuOVfWayAKC+mBhHdn1XZ5uH0RocAyJ32hx2kgCePyhB+IqM TjWLDLarQxcPYhbkFi4= =nx1M -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- --- end forwarded text -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)ibuc.com> The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' --------------------------------------------------------------------- The Cryptography Mailing List Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe cryptography" to majordomo(a)wasabisystems.com

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<nettime> Now also bankers know what bitcoins are
by Jaromil 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

re all, FYI: http://www.dyndy.net/2011/04/bitcoin-presented-to-the-old-world/ Bitcoin presented to the Old-world Posted on Wednesday, April 6, 2011 Filed under Conference, Currency Tagged with cash, crypto, P2P, public Related articles: * [23]Action in London, Revolutionary Credit Cards * [24]Process Ecology: the lesson from Nature for assessing the Monetary System Just back from the 10th edition of the [25]EPCA conference held in Amsterdam, where I was a shoulder for my friend Genjix: bitcoin developers were invited to talk about [26]Bitcoin to a specialized audience of mostly >50 years old banker types in suits, with very few exceptions. Genjix presenting bitcoin in EPCA2011 The incipit of the conference booklet recites: b Over 200 transaction services professionals from all over the world will attend, discuss and experience this leading platform. For the last 10 years we have been on top of trends and developments in payments. We focus in particular on strategic innovation and break-through developments in on-line transactionsb . And in fact it looked pretty well populated for that kind of context: besides the white-male-with-suits first scary impression, especially for those who value variety, from the written documentation available (I havenbt attended talks) one can tell these people run quite some businesses b at least they did until now <g>- and quite successfully. The brochures of the conference talk about transaction systems, RFID/NFC payment devices and all flavors of bank related products along the names of b Mobile Moneyb, b Secure SDb, b ePassportb and b Automated Fare Collectionb. Our guy Genjix is a colorful and open minded type, witty and messy, a good mix that entertained the people present despite it being the last presentation of the day; he did a good (unpaid) job presenting some quite impressive information on the growth and usage of Bitcoin, making people present progressively interested (or pissed, but then hard to notice behind the suits) at this crypto-cash system that seems to be there to stay or, one could argue, to multiply in different flavors in the near future. b Being shown an anonymous digital currency with its own laundering service. Used for selling drugs. Bit-coin, you have cheered me up.b Michael Price The presentation didnbt hide even the most controversial aspects of bitcoin, pointing out to some very extreme usage: something that seemed to relieve the audience, considering that banker types are pretty beaten up by corporate ethics evangelists nowadays. In such cases Bitcoin tends to show that anonymity is used in the b worstb way, which is still half of the story. We are still far from developing a positive narrative on anonymity and continuing on this track will likely move policy makers into massive identification campaigns, as it has been now since the 9/11 sad facts. Still on the good side for bitcoin is its working implementation of a distributed system relying on an b open source algorithmic contractb: something definitely inspiring that knocks off the hegemony of old-world currencies b and one can hardly imagine how theybll ever recover from this manifest process ultimately due to the unstoppable, immanent influence of the digital dimension. Bitcoin is a messenger and the message it carries doesnbt originates even from a person, or a group of people, not even an organization or a company: itbs a Geist (or Zeitgeist, should we say) that impersonates the ultimate dissolution of centralized governance: everything that was solid melts into thin air, should we mourn once again, while all those who were on the deregulation train in 1984 have now to face their kids reminding them how their World is made of lies b and dreams, apparently, still alive. Following a materialist point of view (and crypto-agnostic, webll argue) bitcoin can surely be interpreted as a [27]Rube-Goldberg machine for buying electricity b and this was even our very first reaction at DYNDY when we got to know it the first time. Surely these are times when materialism is needed, as opposed to more abstract financial blabbering, but then consider that the processing power in bitcoin serves to strengthen the network authentication: all that electricity is energy invested by participants to enforce the integrity of the network. Now consider how old monetary systems keep their integrity: a huge government building with armed guards along the perimeter, to not even mention the huge investment of resources and infrastructure to distribute this money (street level access) and authenticate it at transaction time. Remember prof. Greco? webve been talking about thisb& Bitcoin is a b disruptive technologyb, but disruptive for whom? as a human creation, it inherits human problems that are also present in older systems; still P2P currencies as bitcoin let us save energy rather than consume more, also substituting the violence of armed guards with agile and cryptographic communications. Ultimately, the positive message that bitcoin also carries is that of more possibilities in engineering currencies, that of a future in which complementary currencies can make economic systems more resilient to the the disruption of capitalist behaviors, while closely relating people to their community values and maybe even revolutionize the way we contribute to the common good b paying taxes for what we really care, rather than not paying them, let me add. Quoting Wei Dai in [28]one of bitcoinbs founding texts: b Itbs a community where the threat of violence is impotent because violence is impossible, and violence is impossible because its participants cannot be linked to their true names or physical locations. Until now itbs not clear, even theoretically, how such a community could operate. A community is defined by the cooperation of its participants, and efficient cooperation requires a medium of exchange (money) and a way to enforce contracts.b Now Ibm wondering how people present at the EPCA 2011 conference feel, threatened or pleased by this epiphany? in either case it might be interesting to watch reactions. The transaction products I read of are stacking on technological complexity and seamless design that is ultimately undermining the very possibility for people to trust them. On top of that now there are on-line grass-root communities actively building new systems in a decentralized fashion. Will the monopoly of violence enter this game to defend the old-system, despite the squeaking sounds of its carcass, the diffused lack of trust for old hierarchies and the lack for collective agency within its cheated rules? We will see where this ends up: after all today it felt like one of those historical days marked by such a talk made by a little provocative guy wearing a t-shirt and nail polish speaking in front of a old and well dressed audience b but then no-one was really scared. IRC excerpt from #bitcoin-dev during the conference: <jaromil> sirius-m: i'd expect some more fashion happening <topi`> jaro: they just don't know how :) <sirius-m> thanks for being there, it's a new important audience for bitcoin <sirius-m> people who otherwise might not hear about the project <jaromil> true but knowing the types i think they are thinking how to fork it in their own advantage <jaromil> prolly wasted effort <topi`> at least they start talking about it:) <topi`> good luck finding ways to exploit the system <krytzz> hopefully they cant fork the network <krytzz> only could start a seperate one :( <sirius-m> nah, it's good that you're spreading the word :) <topi`> if there *will* be some threat coming from corporate sector, then we'll finally find out how resilient the whole architecture is :) Like this article? Donate BTC :^D 1GJehYZs5BZfL4RTCBFUpTVrjX6XRhDWdq * Comments open on the DYNDY article website http://www.dyndy.net/2011/04/bitcoin-presented-to-the-old-world/ * Copyleft B) 2010-2011 GNU FDL dyne.org foundation References Visible links 23. http://www.dyndy.net/2011/03/action-in-london-revolutionary-credit-cards/ 24. http://www.dyndy.net/2011/03/the-analogy-with-process-ecology-for-assessing… 25. http://www.epcaconference.com/ 26. http://bitcoin.org/ 27. http://trustcurrency.blogspot.com/2011/03/bitcoin-rube-goldberg-machine-for… 28. http://weidai.com/bmoney.txt Hidden links: 88. http://www.dyndy.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/genjix_bitcoin_epca11.jpg 89. http://www.dyndy.net/wp-content/pdf/newspaper.pdf -- jaromil, dyne.org developer, http://jaromil.dyne.org GPG: B2D9 9376 BFB2 60B7 601F 5B62 F6D3 FBD9 C2B6 8E39 # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mail.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime(a)kein.org ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE

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<nettime> Now also bankers know what bitcoins are
by Jaromil 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

re all, FYI: http://www.dyndy.net/2011/04/bitcoin-presented-to-the-old-world/ Bitcoin presented to the Old-world Posted on Wednesday, April 6, 2011 Filed under Conference, Currency Tagged with cash, crypto, P2P, public Related articles: * [23]Action in London, Revolutionary Credit Cards * [24]Process Ecology: the lesson from Nature for assessing the Monetary System Just back from the 10th edition of the [25]EPCA conference held in Amsterdam, where I was a shoulder for my friend Genjix: bitcoin developers were invited to talk about [26]Bitcoin to a specialized audience of mostly >50 years old banker types in suits, with very few exceptions. Genjix presenting bitcoin in EPCA2011 The incipit of the conference booklet recites: b Over 200 transaction services professionals from all over the world will attend, discuss and experience this leading platform. For the last 10 years we have been on top of trends and developments in payments. We focus in particular on strategic innovation and break-through developments in on-line transactionsb . And in fact it looked pretty well populated for that kind of context: besides the white-male-with-suits first scary impression, especially for those who value variety, from the written documentation available (I havenbt attended talks) one can tell these people run quite some businesses b at least they did until now <g>- and quite successfully. The brochures of the conference talk about transaction systems, RFID/NFC payment devices and all flavors of bank related products along the names of b Mobile Moneyb, b Secure SDb, b ePassportb and b Automated Fare Collectionb. Our guy Genjix is a colorful and open minded type, witty and messy, a good mix that entertained the people present despite it being the last presentation of the day; he did a good (unpaid) job presenting some quite impressive information on the growth and usage of Bitcoin, making people present progressively interested (or pissed, but then hard to notice behind the suits) at this crypto-cash system that seems to be there to stay or, one could argue, to multiply in different flavors in the near future. b Being shown an anonymous digital currency with its own laundering service. Used for selling drugs. Bit-coin, you have cheered me up.b Michael Price The presentation didnbt hide even the most controversial aspects of bitcoin, pointing out to some very extreme usage: something that seemed to relieve the audience, considering that banker types are pretty beaten up by corporate ethics evangelists nowadays. In such cases Bitcoin tends to show that anonymity is used in the b worstb way, which is still half of the story. We are still far from developing a positive narrative on anonymity and continuing on this track will likely move policy makers into massive identification campaigns, as it has been now since the 9/11 sad facts. Still on the good side for bitcoin is its working implementation of a distributed system relying on an b open source algorithmic contractb: something definitely inspiring that knocks off the hegemony of old-world currencies b and one can hardly imagine how theybll ever recover from this manifest process ultimately due to the unstoppable, immanent influence of the digital dimension. Bitcoin is a messenger and the message it carries doesnbt originates even from a person, or a group of people, not even an organization or a company: itbs a Geist (or Zeitgeist, should we say) that impersonates the ultimate dissolution of centralized governance: everything that was solid melts into thin air, should we mourn once again, while all those who were on the deregulation train in 1984 have now to face their kids reminding them how their World is made of lies b and dreams, apparently, still alive. Following a materialist point of view (and crypto-agnostic, webll argue) bitcoin can surely be interpreted as a [27]Rube-Goldberg machine for buying electricity b and this was even our very first reaction at DYNDY when we got to know it the first time. Surely these are times when materialism is needed, as opposed to more abstract financial blabbering, but then consider that the processing power in bitcoin serves to strengthen the network authentication: all that electricity is energy invested by participants to enforce the integrity of the network. Now consider how old monetary systems keep their integrity: a huge government building with armed guards along the perimeter, to not even mention the huge investment of resources and infrastructure to distribute this money (street level access) and authenticate it at transaction time. Remember prof. Greco? webve been talking about thisb& Bitcoin is a b disruptive technologyb, but disruptive for whom? as a human creation, it inherits human problems that are also present in older systems; still P2P currencies as bitcoin let us save energy rather than consume more, also substituting the violence of armed guards with agile and cryptographic communications. Ultimately, the positive message that bitcoin also carries is that of more possibilities in engineering currencies, that of a future in which complementary currencies can make economic systems more resilient to the the disruption of capitalist behaviors, while closely relating people to their community values and maybe even revolutionize the way we contribute to the common good b paying taxes for what we really care, rather than not paying them, let me add. Quoting Wei Dai in [28]one of bitcoinbs founding texts: b Itbs a community where the threat of violence is impotent because violence is impossible, and violence is impossible because its participants cannot be linked to their true names or physical locations. Until now itbs not clear, even theoretically, how such a community could operate. A community is defined by the cooperation of its participants, and efficient cooperation requires a medium of exchange (money) and a way to enforce contracts.b Now Ibm wondering how people present at the EPCA 2011 conference feel, threatened or pleased by this epiphany? in either case it might be interesting to watch reactions. The transaction products I read of are stacking on technological complexity and seamless design that is ultimately undermining the very possibility for people to trust them. On top of that now there are on-line grass-root communities actively building new systems in a decentralized fashion. Will the monopoly of violence enter this game to defend the old-system, despite the squeaking sounds of its carcass, the diffused lack of trust for old hierarchies and the lack for collective agency within its cheated rules? We will see where this ends up: after all today it felt like one of those historical days marked by such a talk made by a little provocative guy wearing a t-shirt and nail polish speaking in front of a old and well dressed audience b but then no-one was really scared. IRC excerpt from #bitcoin-dev during the conference: <jaromil> sirius-m: i'd expect some more fashion happening <topi`> jaro: they just don't know how :) <sirius-m> thanks for being there, it's a new important audience for bitcoin <sirius-m> people who otherwise might not hear about the project <jaromil> true but knowing the types i think they are thinking how to fork it in their own advantage <jaromil> prolly wasted effort <topi`> at least they start talking about it:) <topi`> good luck finding ways to exploit the system <krytzz> hopefully they cant fork the network <krytzz> only could start a seperate one :( <sirius-m> nah, it's good that you're spreading the word :) <topi`> if there *will* be some threat coming from corporate sector, then we'll finally find out how resilient the whole architecture is :) Like this article? 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by None 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

<CYBERIA-L(a)LISTSERV.AOL.COM> Sender: Law & Policy of Computer Communications <CYBERIA-L(a)LISTSERV.AOL.COM> From: Seth Johnson <seth.johnson(a)REALMEASURES.DYNDNS.ORG> Organization: Real Measures Subject: Outreach Volunteers Needed - Content Control is a Dead End To: CYBERIA-L(a)LISTSERV.AOL.COM I'm sending this because I am looking for concerned individuals who understand the importance of the following cause: Content control is a dead end. The legal tradition in copyright has always drawn a distinction between facts and ideas on one hand, which nobody can own; and expression on the other hand, which is what has been allowed to be copyrighted. The thing is, data elements are facts, whether they are part of an expressive work or not. Free speech, the use of information and the very purpose of copyright are being revised by publishers and other "content" stakeholders by means of "content" control measures, such as the American Digital Millennium Copyright Anticircumvention Act, and the provisions of the international TRIPS treaty. Currently, a Russian citizen, Dmitry Sklyarov, is being prosecuted for felony charges under the DMCA, for work he did in developing software that decrypts the Adobe e-Book. The Copyright Clause in the US Constitution is geared toward allowing Congress to grant artificial monopolies ("exclusive Right" for "limited Times" to "Writings and Discoveries") in order to "promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts." It does not grant copyright as a natural right, and it does not provide for the superseding of free speech by this power of Congress. Do you agree that content control must not be allowed to enable copyright to supersede our free speech right to process and distribute information? We need outreach volunteers and coordinators who wish to help get the word out about what is going on, and to build the constituency of those who are affected by these developments. If you agree that content control must not be allowed to enable copyright to supersede free speech rights, then please contact me, or subscribe to the C-FIT Content Control Outreach discussion list by sending an email saying "subscribe C-FIT_Release_Community" to ListServ(a)realmeasures.dyndns.org. Seth Johnson seth.johnson(a)RealMeasures.dyndns.org Information Producers Initiative Basic Position Statement: http://realmeasures.dyndns.org/C-FIT/Theory1.htm ********************************************************************** For Listserv Instructions, see http://www.lawlists.net/cyberia Off-Topic threads: http://www.lawlists.net/mailman/listinfo/cyberia-ot Need more help? Send mail to: Cyberia-L-Request(a)listserv.aol.com ********************************************************************** --- end forwarded text -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)ibuc.com> The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' --------------------------------------------------------------------- The Cryptography Mailing List Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe cryptography" to majordomo(a)wasabisystems.com

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Lucrative update
by Patrick 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

Lucrative release 4 is out. I know many people are used to seeing releases numbered like "0.000001", "0.000002", "2.0.3.0.14.657" etc. but release numbering systems are essentially arbitrary in nature so don't get excited as Lucrative goes toward version 50+. This release is a fairly minor one, but included some changes such as the client name that I wanted to get out as soon as possible. There is also a new development weblog at http://lucrative.thirdhost.com/weblog/. I went through an install with someone over IRC last night and made a blog entry summarizing the install notes. I recommend reading the notes before attempting an install. I am glad to help with an install, drop me a note at patrick(a)lfcgate.com if you have trouble. Some documentation on the various entities in the Lucrative system is now available on the website, http://lucrative.thirdhost.com/documentation.php but more is needed and coming. If Lucrative is interesting to you, please consider helping in any way you can: Feedback Installation reports Suggestions Comments Criticism Feature requests Source code patches Donations Are all very much welcomed. And criticism is more useful to me than praise. My sincere thanks to everyone who has participated so far by installing, testing, providing feedback, spreading the word, and donating. And finally I just received word from SourceForge that the project registration for Lucrative has been approved. Regards, Patrick -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.3 for non-commercial use <http://www.pgp.com> mQGiBD5ECKcRBADUvjXHwLtxIyS4AyjBs/dFtN6rdeP18Fhzh1hD5fJwkFevqY9Z I1ASROTh6eXYF7pU5sEvbcPshHyTB41ZtTqZvQvpwWN0fUzOuutuI0mtC5UPp9Rz j47SdWLdEXNHjwnHDCYSyqtqZu8GujGRQybR0eP3NIh/NwbSDUKdgz7IjwCg//Jo UtjP3zUFobm/0UYA+CJ5krED/091x9Js0gwNwvjbzM8DqO+r8qNz0kXI13FkrPRk QNd37lxt6m2m8HZD1WYM2wKwtMzHSwJcWzaDZ/tNc+ppYjzpw0EQCh9FqjGs8Vau guF6PA1M8lJTCcLKaL4e7ynic+PAw5Xa/tdOYgFCG+eLMU5RLvzRCYoOLIjgMJLJ yG98BACAMlDmFVYgC/UKvzZmHfZ5CtCKd8sPfCXrYLu5NeFRE0LR6D6zjzmhi1xX okfreR5o3T/y78VBM98js+m2/+7Z0AElqydeW/RnV1zqwDGjDr9z2MgARf3yLAbs n3BU8Fz61RwvHy6cRkT+2dR2f69QQUSpkupvLwZIGX/iwm4uKLQdUGF0cmljayA8 cGF0cmlja0BsZmNnYXRlLmNvbT6JAE4EEBECAA4FAj5ECKcECwMCAQIZAQAKCRBb mvb9yuOVfaA2AKDAu5tDj9F2KI8cJMrKKkQRAcUyxACg6/bei7lUJH+E5igJqGRx SjKrRA65BA0EPkQIpxAQAPkYoH5aBmF6Q5CV3AVsh4bsYezNRR8O2OCjecbJ3HoL rOQ/40aUtjBKU9d8AhZIgLUV5SmZqZ8HdNP/46HFliBOmGW42A3uEF2rthccUdhQ yiJXQym+lehWKzh4XAvb+ExN1eOqRsz7zhfoKp0UYeOEqU/Rg4Soebbvj6dDRgjG zB13VyQ4SuLE8OiOE2eXTpITYfbb6yUOF/32mPfIfHmwch04dfv2wXPEgxEmK0Ng w+Po1gr9oSgmC66prrNlD6IAUwGgfNaroxIe+g8qzh90hE/K8xfzpEDp19J3tkIt AjbBJstoXp18mAkKjX4t7eRdefXUkk+bGI78KqdLfDL2Qle3CH8IF3KiutapQvMF 6PlTETlPtvFuuUs4INoBp1ajFOmPQFXz0AfGy0OplK33TGSGSfgMg71l6RfUodNQ +PVZX9x2Uk89PY3bzpnhV5JZzf24rnRPxfx2vIPFRzBhznzJZv8V+bv9kV7HAarT W56NoKVyOtQa8L9GAFgr5fSI/VhOSdvNILSd5JEHNmszbDgNRR0PfIizHHxbLY72 88kjwEPwpVsYjY67VYy4XTjTNP18F1dDox0YbN4zISy1Kv884bEpQBgRjXyEpwpy 1obEAxnIByl6ypUM2Zafq9AKUJsCRtMIPWakXUGfnHy9iUsiGSa6q6Jew1XrPdYX AAICD/wKwtF7Y4NKBe8PQ6jDbjWziiTv9Ac/EnRTJDQEoqgLa2LyE+6Ahw/VPGvp mfxkD2MKxC9E7kYVmasn6sHnSpvAv3e7O1Bqbo/qLzzCcJQ5VCurZ+elRM1GZ4Oc fM19FPKutb0/JFEv0nrqS4BGkF7WFBbu5dKYl/GIO7Co1mAerFIb719dOwMPVEIz OT08u8uB9jyR8gEElf+CVuNfOUkrUGg4HS4SbmTTrCSz3/8n5PkquSuAyjCB/dwM ZsZwA0/TTR8sDYlmlf9xPj5PGpGnV9OUwfig6eE0eWtRFeasmz0uiX+yp45ABtNh 6EXP/PFaBgXi9omXXjeeFYfpDvmfA6izvTIQfXTV6V9ZWrBfXarM+GQ+6guXWVbd 9fXvmCr982LkzuKQrK1OpRXBMUapXL+tOy/LYzz91InqKKhgPNGa12fvotZ4LzlM iqoM+Hpz5L9B5We1Ph0lD6RBVXDCqd+P8extnY/7AaDy7tC0UghaAaUuEZXJQPIc oQ3QGbpjM0nGe/VZN5EZhljau0NNENFaU56cOpvOhcO04gLGNNc2NS+rIpTMsaHh o1CG90c5zZZJuUbyx0mIHriNQXDgEwunSZPQorKK9KSppyyjeuOyi5F/mBBPXeyT weLhLqLvAr9se/+Z3aQvMADJi8zUZtGggLTw+N9R5XSwtSh2R4kARgQYEQIABgUC PkQIpwAKCRBbmvb9yuOVfWayAKC+mBhHdn1XZ5uH0RocAyJ32hx2kgCePyhB+IqM TjWLDLarQxcPYhbkFi4= =nx1M -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- --- end forwarded text -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)ibuc.com> The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' --------------------------------------------------------------------- The Cryptography Mailing List Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe cryptography" to majordomo(a)wasabisystems.com

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[liberationtech] NYT: For Syriabs Rebel Movement, Skype Is a Useful and Increasingly Dangerous Tool
by frank＠journalistsecurity.net 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

This piece from NYT over the weekend should be of interest here, and, unless I missed it, I don't think it's been yet posted. Excerpt: "If the uprisings in Tunisia and Egypt were Twitter Revolutions, then Syria is becoming the Skype Rebellion. To get around a near-nationwide Internet shutdown, rebels have armed themselves with mobile satellite phones and dial-up modems." Quotes CL and EFF's Eva on risks. Main news here that sticks out for me is that Syrian activists largely seem aware of the risks, yet many are still using Skype due to a lack of alternatives. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/01/world/middleeast/syrian-rebels-turn-to-sk… For Syriabs Rebel Movement, Skype Is a Useful and Increasingly Dangerous Tool By AMY CHOZICK Published: November 30, 2012 In a demonstration of their growing sophistication and organization, Syrian rebels responded to a nationwide shutdown of the Internet by turning to satellite technology to coordinate within the country and to communicate with outside activists. When Syriabs Internet service disappeared Thursday, government officials first blamed rebel attacks. Activist groups blamed the government and viewed the blackout as a sign that troops would violently clamp down on rebels. But having dealt with periodic outages for more than a year, the opposition had anticipated a full shutdown of Syriabs Internet service providers. To prepare, they have spent months smuggling communications equipment like mobile handsets and portable satellite phones into the country. b Webre very well equipped here,b said Albaraa Abdul Rahman, 27, an activist in Saqba, a poor suburb 20 minutes outside Damascus. He said he was in touch with an expert in Homs who helped connect his office and 10 others like it in and around Damascus. Using the connection, the activists in Saqba talked to rebel fighters on Skype and relayed to overseas activists details about clashes with government forces. A video showed the rebelsb bare-bones room, four battery backups that could power a laptop for eight hours and a generator set up on a balcony. For months, rebels fighting to overthrow President Bashar al-Assad have used Skype, a peer-to-peer Internet communication system, to organize and talk to outside news organizations and activists. A few days ago, Jad al-Yamani, an activist in Homs, sent a message to rebel fighters that tanks were moving toward a government checkpoint. He notified the other fighters so that they could go observe the checkpoint. b Through Skype you know how the army moves or can stop it,b Mr. Yamani said. On Friday, Dawoud Sleiman, 39, a member of the antigovernment Ahrar al-Shamal Battalion, part of the Free Syrian Army, reached out to other members of the rebel group. They were set up at the governmentbs Wadi Aldaif military base in Idlib, a province near the Turkish border that has seen heavy fighting, and connected to Skype via satellite Internet service. Mr. Sleiman, who is based in Turkey, said the Free Syrian Army stopped using cellphone networks and land lines months ago and instead relies almost entirely on Skype. b Brigade members communicate through the hand-held devices,b he said. This week rebels posted an announcement via Skype that called for the arrest of the head of intelligence in Idlib, who is accused of killing five rebels. b A big financial prize will be offered to anyone who brings the head of this guy,b the message read. b One of our brothers abroad has donated the cash.b If the uprisings in Tunisia and Egypt were Twitter Revolutions, then Syria is becoming the Skype Rebellion. To get around a near-nationwide Internet shutdown, rebels have armed themselves with mobile satellite phones and dial-up modems. In many cases, relatives and supporters living outside Syria bought the equipment and had it smuggled in, mostly through Lebanon and Turkey. That equipment has allowed the rebels to continue to communicate almost entirely via Skype with little interruption, despite the blackout. b How the government used its weapons against the revolution, that is how activists use Skype,b Mr. Abdul Rahman said. b We havenbt seen any interruption in the way Skype is being used,b said David Clinch, an editorial director of Storyful, a group that verifies social media posts for news organizations, including The New York Times (Mr. Clinch has served as a consultant for Skype). Mr. Assad, who once fashioned himself as a reformer and the father of Syriabs Internet, has largely left the countrybs access intact during the 20-month struggle with rebels. The government appeared to abandon that strategy on Thursday, when most citizens lost access. Some Syrians could still get online using service from Turkey. On Friday, Syrian officials blamed technical problems for the cutoff. The shutdown is only the latest tactic in the escalating technology war waged in Arab Spring countries. But several technology experts warned that the use of the Internet by rebels in Syria, even those relying on Skype, could leave them vulnerable to government surveillance. Introduced in 2003, Skype encrypts each Internet call so that they are next to impossible to crack. It quickly became the pet technology of global organizers and opposition members in totalitarian countries. And while Skypebs encryption secrets remain elusive, in recent months the Assad government, often with help from Iran, has developed tools to install malware on computers that allows officials to monitor a userbs activity. b Skype has gone from in the mid-2000s being the tool most widely used and promoted by human rights activists to now when people ask me I say, bDefinitely, donbt use it,b b said Ronald J. Deibert, director of Citizen Lab, a research group at the University of Toronto that monitors human rights and cybersecurity. Using satellite phone service to connect makes Skype potentially more dangerous since it makes it easier to track a userbs location, said Eva Galperin of the Electronic Frontier Foundation, a civil liberties group in San Francisco. The Syrian government has b gone from passive surveillance to more active surveillance in which theybre gaining access to dissidentsb and opposition membersb computers,b Ms. Galperin said. The pro-government Syrian Electronic Army has largely led the response to early cyberattacks by rebels and overseas sympathizers. At checkpoints in government-controlled regions, Assad forces examined laptops for programs that would allow users to bypass government spyware, several activists said. In cafes where the Internet was available, government officials checked usersb identification. Rebels are starting to suspect that the governmentbs efforts are paying off. A media activist in Idlib named Mohamed said a rebel informant working for the government was killed in Damascus six months ago after sending warnings to the Free Syrian Army on Skype. b I saw this incident right in front of my eyes,b Mohamed said. b We put his info on Skype so he was arrested and killed.b In August, an activist named Baraa al-Boushi was killed during shelling in Damascus. Activists later circulated a report saying that a Saudi Arabian claiming to support the revolution was actually a government informant who determined Mr. Boushibs location after a long conversation on Skype. A Skype spokesman, Chaim Haas, said calls via the service between computers, smartphones and other mobile devices are automatically encrypted. But just like e-mail and instant messaging can be compromised by spyware and Trojan horses, so can Skype. b Theybre listening to the conversation before it gets encrypted,b Mr. Haas said. b That has nothing to do with Skype at all.b Liam Stack contributed reporting from New York; Hala Droubi from Dubai, United Arab Emirates; and Hwaida Saad from Beirut, Lebanon. A version of this article appeared in print on December 1, 2012, on page A12 of the New York edition with the headline: For Syriabs Rebel Movement, Skype Is a Useful and Increasingly Dangerous Tool. SAVE E-MAIL SHARE -- Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE

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Re: [liberationtech] What I've learned from Cryptocat
by Douglas Lucas 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

Hi Libtech, Moxie Marlinspike <moxie(a)thoughtcrime.org> wrote: >> However, my position is that Google Chat is currently more secure >> than CryptoCat. To be more specific, if I were recommending a chat >> tool for activists to use, *particularly* outside of the United >> States, I would absolutely recommend that they use Google Chat >> instead of CryptoCat. Just as I would recommend that they use GMail >> instead HushMail. >> >> The security of CryptoCat v1 is reducible to the security of SSL, as >> well as to the security of the server infrastructure serving the >> page. Any attacker who can intercept SSL traffic can intercept a >> CryptoCat chat session, just as any attacker who can compromise the >> server (or the server operator themselves) can intercept a CryptoCat >> chat session. Maxim Kammerer replied: > Are you equating passive attacks with active attacks? If I understand > how CryptoCat works correctly, it is resistant against passive > interception attacks, whereas Google Chat stores cleartext on Google > servers, which are easily accessible to law enforcement. Active > attacks against SSL can be mitigated by pinning CryptoCat > certificates, so you are left with what, compromise of server > infrastructure? That requires LE jurisdiction where the servers are > located, domain expertise, and dealing with the risk that the > compromise is detected. All that vs. Google servers, which, if I > remember right, provide a friendly interface to user accounts once > served with a simple wiretapping order (and as has been already > mentioned, Google is a multinational corporation, subject to a > multitude of jurisdictions, and is known to bend over for whoever is > in charge). Maxim's comments match my thoughts with regards to both current Cryptocat over SSL and my analogy to Riseup webmail over SSL. If Riseup does what they say they do[1], emails sitting on their servers are not mined for advertising or LE (unlike Facebook chat, or as Maxim suggests, gmail); their servers do not log IPs; IPs are not embedded in emails; and outgoing emails to other secure email providers are encrypted (StartTLS). Furthermore, it appears Riseup plans[2] encryption for stored emails on their servers in the future. Such a scheme would make the emails difficult for LE, or more broadly, attackers, to get, even with a warrant -- not only would they have to obtain forced decryption power, which I don't think they have as of yet in the US, but also Riseup might not be able to provide the relevant keys in any case. (That the NSA has copies is a vulnerability, but perhaps not a relevant one, as to my knowledge LE can't introduce NSA copies as evidence.) Similarly with current Cryptocat over SSL: if the server and server operator do what they say they do, there aren't data-mining operations going on for the benefit of LE or advertisers. Both Riseup and current Cryptocat over SSL rely on good SSL connections and also trust that the server and server operator aren't compromised (including incorrect implementations). Those 3 dependencies are far from ideal, but at least the risk calculations are ones some activists without access to OTR or PGP or their own .mx can make. Better than known bad actors, known bad servers. Maybe my technical understanding is lacking something here, but I believe the above to be correct. :-Douglas 1. https://help.riseup.net/en/email#what-is-special-about-riseup-net-email 2. https://we.riseup.net/riseuplabs+fsoc/personally-encrypted-imap-storage _______________________________________________ liberationtech mailing list liberationtech(a)lists.stanford.edu Should you need to change your subscription options, please go to: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech If you would like to receive a daily digest, click "yes" (once you click above) next to "would you like to receive list mail batched in a daily digest?" You will need the user name and password you receive from the list moderator in monthly reminders. You may ask for a reminder here: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech Should you need immediate assistance, please contact the list moderator. Please don't forget to follow us on http://twitter.com/#!/Liberationtech ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE

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