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voice pgp
by Loren Fleckenstein 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I've heard mention that Phil Zimmermann was going to demonstrate Voice PGP at the January Cypherpunks meeting at Cygnus. Can anyone mail me a note about this? Has the meeting already taken place? How well did the demo perform?

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L.A. area-Karl Hess Club
by j.hastings6＠genie.geis.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The following was written by me, Kent Hastings: Sorry, no PGP sig, I'm stranded in Chico,CA for a while... L O S A N G E L E S A R E A M E E T I N G "Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, and let me remind you, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue." - Aristotle, as used by Karl Hess for Barry Goldwater. --- T h e K a r l H e s s C l u b --- "GOODBYE, MURRAY!" In the third meeting in the Post Election Series, we intended to present an update on the Objectivists after our meetings with the Republicans, the Libertarian Party, and Left Anarchists. Unfortunately, the Ayn Rand Institute declined our invitation to address our group on The Night Of January The 16th. When readers of Liberty Magazine were asked to rate the influence of various thinkers, at the top, with an equal rating to Rand, was "Mr. Libertarian," Murray N. Rothbard, PhD. Murray died last week, so we will instead have a special Memorial tribute to his life and thought. He is best known for his work in Austrian School economics and Libertarian philosophy, and notorious for bashing Objectivists with essays like "The Sociology of the Ayn Rand Cult." (Don't worry, the abuse was mutual). His most recent libertarian strategy was to make an alliance with the Old Right, a.k.a. "Paleoconservatives." We hope you'll agree that this is relevant in our Post Election environment. Samuel Edward Konkin III (SEK3) knew Murray personally, and credits him as a founder of the modern Libertarian movement in written accounts in his magazine, New Libertarian. I assume SEK3 will host tributes from others who also knew Murray. Monday, January 16, 1995 Hasmik's Family Restaurant Cheviot Hills neighborhood of Los Angeles National Blvd (I think 9824 National) Unfortunately, I can't attend this one because of the floods, and I don't have the address handy, but it is the same time and place as the last meeting. Kent - j.hastings6(a)genie.geis.com

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Another problem w/Data Havens...
by Robert Rothenberg 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I can see a potential problem with Data Havens (as they've been discussed here) that may very well inspire the wrath of the authorities more than nuclear secrets or dirty pictures of J.Edgar Hoover... How does one keep a site from becomming a remote pirated-software exchange site? (Esp. since after that MIT case laws may be changed...) It seems that such a service could become a magnet for the "elite warez" crowd... and even if the operator isn't jailed it could lead to a shutdown of the service.

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2 announcements of possible interest
by Adam Shostack 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

2 announcements (one from PRIVACY, the other from Cyberia.) second is NII Security Issues Forum to Hold 2 Meetings 01/27/95 NEW 01/12/95 Date: Fri, 13 Jan 95 11:25:27 EST From: denning(a)cs.cosc.georgetown.edu (Dorothy Denning) Subject: INTERNATIONAL CRYPTOGRAPHY INSTITUTE 1995 Call for Participation (Deadline: March 15, 1995) INTERNATIONAL CRYPTOGRAPHY INSTITUTE 1995: GLOBAL CHALLENGES September 21-22, 1995 Washington, DC Presented by The National Intellectual Property Law Institute The International Cryptography Institute will focus on the cryptography challenges associated with meeting the information protection needs of users and the law enforcement and national security needs of nations. The Institute will address such topics as: - national encryption policies and regulations - meeting user needs for information security and data recovery - meeting law enforcement and national security needs - national and global encryption markets and product availability - international approaches and standards - creating an international cryptography infrastructure - the use of encryption technologies in different countries - cryptography in the financial industry and other industries - legal and policy issues of digital signatures and digital cash - new developments in encryption policies and technologies Persons interested in speaking at the conference are invited to submit a proposal to the Institute Chair: Prof. Dorothy E. Denning, Chair ICI '95 Georgetown University Computer Science Department 225 Reiss Building Washington DC 20057-0997 ph: 202-687-5703, fax: 202-687-6067 e-mail: denning(a)cs.georgetown.edu Proposals must be received by MARCH 15, 1995, and should include the following: - Name, title, organization, address, phone, fax, and e-mail address - Brief biography - Title of presentation - Abstract of presentation or paper - Amount of time requested for presentation and discussion Notification of acceptance will be made by April 15, 1995. Papers and materials for the proceedings will be due on August 15, 1995. Inquiries about registration or the proceedings should be addressed to: The National Intellectual Property Law Institute P.O. Box 27913, Washington, DC 20038-7913 ph: 800-301-MIND or 202-962-9494 fax: 800-304-MIND or 202-962-9495 ------------------------------ From: Seth Greenstein <sethg(a)access.digex.net> Subject: NII Security Issues Forum to Hold 2 Meetings 01/27/95 NEW 01/12/95 OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET NOTICE OF PUBLIC MEETING Agency: Office of Management and Budget Action: National Information Infrastructure Security Issues Forum: Notice of Public Meetings and request for public comments SUMMARY: The National Information Infrastructure Security Issues Forum will conduct two public meetings to continue a dialogue between government and the private and public interest sectors on issues related to the security of information on the National Information Infrastructure (NII). Interested parties -- especially beneficiaries of Aid to Families with Dependent Children and Food Stamps, and users of public information, and participants in the sophisticated communications networks which support the U.S. transportation and customs systems -- are invited to submit a 1 - 2 page position statement and request to testify. The meetings are sponsored by the NII Security Issues Forum of the Information Infrastructure Task Force and Mega-Project III of the U.S. Advisory Council on the NII. DATES: Both public meetings, "Security of the Electronic Delivery of Government Information and Services" and "Security for Intelligent Transportation Systems and Trade Information," will be held simultaneously on Friday, January 27, 1995, from 9:00 a.m. to 12:30 p.m. in Raleigh, North Carolina. Those wishing to testify should submit a 1 - 2 page position statement and request to participate by January 20, 1995. Individuals wishing to offer general comments or present questions may request to do so during the meeting. Written comments may be submitted on paper or electronically, in ASCII format, and will be accepted until February 10, 1995. ADDRESSES: The public meeting, "Security of the Electronic Delivery of Government Information and Services," will be held in the Auditorium of the North Carolina Museum of History, 1 East Edenton Street, Raleigh, North Carolina. The public meeting, "Security for Intelligent Transportation Systems and Trade Information," will be held in the Auditorium of the Department of Cultural Affairs, 109 East Jones Street, Raleigh, North Carolina. Both buildings are in close proximity to the North Carolina Capitol Building. Position statements and requests to appear for the meeting, "Security of the Electronic Delivery of Government Information and Services," sent to the Government Information Technology Services Working Group, marked to the attention of Ms. April Ramey, U.S. Department of the Treasury, 1425 New York Avenue, Room 2150 N.W., Washington, D.C. 20220. Position statements may also be submitted via fax to (202) 622-1595 or through electronic mail to april.ramey(a)treas.sprint.com. Electronic mail should be submitted as unencoded, unformatted, ASCII text. Position statements and requests to appear for the meeting, "Security for Intelligent Transportation Systems and Trade Information," should be sent to the Volpe National Transportation Systems Center of the Department of Transportation, marked to the attention of Mr. Gary Ritter, DTS-21, at 55 Broadway, Cambridge, MA, 02142. Position statements may also be submitted via fax to (617) 494-2370 or through electronic mail to "Ritter(a)volpe1.dot.gov". Electronic mail should be submitted as unencoded, unformatted, ASCII text. Parties offering testimony are asked to provide them on paper, and where possible, in machine-readable format. Machine- readable submissions may be provided through electronic mail messages sent over the Internet, or on a 3.5" floppy disk formatted for use in an MS-DOS based computer. Machine-readable submissions should be provided as unencoded, unformatted ASCII text. Written comments should include the following information: * Name and organizational affiliation, if any, of the individual responding; * An indication of whether comments offered represent views of the respondent's organization or are the respondent's personal views; and * If applicable, information on the respondent's organization, including the type of organization (e.g., trade association, private corporation, non-profit organization) and general areas of interest. FOR FURTHER INFORMATION CONTACT: For further information relating to electronic delivery of information and services, contact Ms. April Ramey of the Treasury Department at (202) 622- 1278. For further information relating to transportation and trade issues, contact Mr. Gary Ritter at the Volpe National Transportation Systems Center by telephone at (617) 494-2716. SUPPLEMENTARY INFORMATION: I. Issues for Public Comment A. Background The public meetings are part of an ongoing dialogue with the Administration to assess the security needs and concerns of users of the National Information Infrastructure (NII). The NII is a system of high-speed telecommunications networks, databases, and advanced computer systems that will make electronic information more widely available and accessible than ever before. For example, citizens may be able to learn about federal benefits programs through public kiosks, or may receive their social security payments through direct deposit to their bank accounts. As the U.S. transportation infrastructure becomes more complex, Americans will benefit from the application of information technologies to such operations as toll collection, motor vehicle registration, and traffic routing. This increased availability and accessibility of services and products provided through information technology will dramatically affect the way in which individuals conduct their everyday affairs. Consequently, broad public and commercial use of the NII hinges upon implementing technologies, policies, and practices that not only ensure that users of information systems have access to information when and where they need it, but that subjects of information records are able to protect themselves from unauthorized or inappropriate use of information. "Americans will not use the NII to its full potential unless they trust that information will go where and when they want it and nowhere else," declared Sally Katzen, Administrator of the Office of Information Regulatory Affairs at OMB and chair of the Forum. "The Federal government is a primary user of the NII and thus a catalyst for change. Yet the NII will be designed, built, owned, operated, and used primarily by the private sector, making it essential that security on the NII be considered in partnership with the public." To address these critical issues, the Vice President formed the Information Infrastructure Task Force (IITF). The IITF is chaired by Secretary of Commerce Ron Brown and is comprised of senior Administration officials having expertise in technical, legal, and policy areas pertinent to the NII. The mission of the IITF is to articulate and implement the Administration's vision for the NII. The NII Security Issues Forum was established within the IITF to address the cross-cutting issue of security in the NII. The Forum is chaired by Sally Katzen, Administrator of the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs in the Office of Management and Budget. In addition to the IITF, the President has established the U.S. Advisory Council on the National Information Infrastructure. The Advisory Council represents industry, labor, and public interest groups, and advises the Secretary of Commerce on issues relating to the NII. Mega-Project III, one of three work groups of the Advisory Council, is responsible for addressing security, intellectual property, and privacy issues as they relate to the NII. B. Structure and Content of Public Meeting Security is linked inextricably to broad public use of the NII. The technologies, policies, and procedures used to ensure the confidentiality, availability, and integrity of digitally produced and transmitted information, information products, and services on the NII will determine whether, how, and to what extent digitally linked information services will be broadly used in such critical applications as providing public information, supporting the delivery of government services, utilizing intelligent transportation systems, and conducting trade. Development of policies and procedures that will ensure the security of public and private information and communications on the NII requires study from different perspectives, whether that of the subject of the information, the user of the information, or the creator of the information. The Forum and Mega-Project III seek input from parties representing beneficiaries of federal information and services and users of intelligent transportation systems and trade data. Solutions to these concerns will come via technical solutions, as well as legal and policy mechanisms. The Forum and Mega-Project III seek input in this area as well. Specifically, what legal measures, policy mechanisms, and technological solutions, or combinations thereof, can be used to effectively protect the security of federal benefits information or transportation or trade data, delivered or made accessible on the NII? A panel of witnesses drawn from the public will be assembled to discuss the following topics with a panel of senior Administration officials, members of the Security Issues Forum, members of the Advisory Council, and policy makers at the State level, and to field questions and comments from other members of the public. Position statements for the meeting, "Security in the Delivery of Electronic Information and Services," should address four principal questions: 1. How do you envision the NII being used to provide services and information electronically to citizens? Specifically, what types of services and information should be delivered or made available? 2. What risks and threats do you foresee in making services and information available via the NII? Such threats might include fraud, unauthorized access, breach of confidentiality or privacy, breach of integrity, and system performance. 3. What legal, policy, and ethical issues do you foresee affecting usage of the NII? Such issues may include liability, information/property rights, access, document/records management, legal admissibility/evidentiary requirements, and auditability. Do some issues, such as privacy and open access, tend to countervene each other? 4. What kinds of administrative or technical solutions should be developed or promoted to address security, legal, and ethical concerns? Such solutions may include verifying recipient and/or vendor eligibility, ensuring operational and systems security, and establishing means to facilitate settlement, detection, and prosecution. Position statements for the meeting, "Security for Intelligent Transportation Systems and Trade Information," should address five principal questions: 1. Who should be permitted access to sensitive trade and transportation information systems? How can inappropriate access and use be prevented? 2. What technical and institutional safeguards in electronic data transmission, storage, and retrieval are needed to protect the security of trade and transportation data? Such risks might include: disclosure of proprietary and confidential business information, criminal access to trade and cargo records, disclosure of individual travel patterns or vehicle locations, or disclosure of transportation dispatch communications regarding sensitive cargo shipment routes, itineraries, and locations. 3. What does an "appropriate level of security" consist of? Is there a "one-size-fits-all" solution, or can policies be established which flexibly meet diverse needs? 4. Do certain systems merit greater degrees of security protection, such as traffic signal control systems, variable message signs, fleet location monitoring, electronic toll collection, international trade data, and motor vehicle registration records? 5. Who should establish and enforce security policies? How can government and the private sector work together to support a secure National Information Infrastructure? II. Guidelines for Participation in the Public Hearing Individuals who would like to participate on a panel must request an opportunity to do so no later than January 20, 1995, by submitting a brief, 1 - 2 page summary position statement. If approved, each participant will be allowed to present brief opening remarks. Primary participation, however, shall be during the general discussion to follow, according to the format described above. Participants in the public meeting will testify before and participate in discussions with a panel consisting of members of the Advisory Council, members of the Security Issues Forum, and other Administration officials. Individuals not selected as panel participants may offer comments or ask questions of the witnesses by requesting an opportunity to do so and being recognized during the meeting by the chairs of the meetings. Oral remarks offered in this fashion should not exceed three minutes. No advance approval is required to attend the public meetings, offer comments, or present questions. The public meeting on "Security of the Electronic Delivery of Information and Services" will be chaired by Mr. Jim Flyzik, Chair of the Government Information Technology Services Working Group of the IITF. The public meeting on "Security for Intelligent Transportation Systems and Trade Information," will be co-chaired by Ms. Ana Sol Gutierrez, Deputy Administrator of the Research and Special Programs Administration of the U.S. Department of Transportation, and Ms. Christine Johnson, Director of the Intelligent Transportation Systems Joint Program Office of the U.S. Department of Transportation. More information about the Clinton Administration's National Information Infrastructure initiative can be obtained from the IITF Secretariat. Inquiries may be directed to Yvette Barrett at (202) 482-1835, by e-mail to ybarrett(a)ntia.doc.gov, or by mail to U.S. Department of Commerce, IITF Secretariat, NTIA, Room 4892, Washington, D.C., 20230. For inquiries over the Internet to the IITF Gopher Server, gopher, telnet (login = gopher), or anonymous ftp to iitf.doc.gov. Access is also available over the World-Wide-Web. Questions may be addressed to nii(a)ntia.doc.gov. For access by modem, dial (202) 501-1920 and set modem communication parameters at no parity, 8 data bits, and one stop (N,8,1). Modem speeds of up to 14,400 baud are supported. Sally Katzen Administrator, Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs Certified to be a true copy of the original by John B. Arthur, Associate Director for Administration

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Re: Another problem w/Data Havens...
by Ben.Goren＠asu.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 9:45 PM 1/14/95, Robert Rothenberg wrote: >[. . .] >How does one keep a site from becomming a remote pirated-software exchange >site? [. . . .] Simple. The file is deleted upon retrevial. b& -- Ben.Goren(a)asu.edu, Arizona State University School of Music Finger ben(a)tux.music.asu.edu for PGP public key ID 0x875B059.

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interesting problem with remailers
by jml＠wizard.synapse.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I need a good dependable cypherpunk style anomymous remailer. So I have been experimenting with a few. I have discovered a rather curious problem. I have sent test messages to homer(a)rahul.net. These test messages read as follows: :: Request-Remailing-To: myname@mydonain Subject: Test this is line1 this is line2 this is line3 this is line4 this is line5 this is line6 I have encrypted this message with the public key of homer(a)rahul.net using the pgp -ea command (for armour). This yields something like: -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE---- version 2.6.2 blahblahblah blah blah blah blah etc..... ------END PGP MESSAGE--- I have then put :: Encrypted: PGP <blank line> at the beginning of the message and send it with Eudora PC 1.4. Now curiously enough the message that I received back from homer@rahul is the following: ************************************************************* To: myname@mysite From: nobody(a)rahul.net Subject: Test Remailed-By: A Free Zone Remailer V1.2 <homer(a)rahul.net> Complaints-To: Homer Wilson Smith <homer(a)rahul.net> X-Comments: X-Comments: finger homer(a)rahul.net for instructions. X-Comments: X-Comments: Unauthorized or illegal use of this remailer, especially X-Comments: for spamming the internet or posting copyright violations X-Comments: will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. X-Comments: Homer Wilson Smith (607) 277-0959, Fax: (607) 277-8913 X-Comments: FULL HEADER LOGGING IS: ON This is line1 this is line3 this is line5 ************************************************************* No this is line2 no this is line4 no this is line6 I am unable to explain this. Obviously the message must be recieved intact by the remailer because being encrypted with PGP if it were corrupt in anyway it would simply not decode properly and I would get no reply whatsoever. Now before somebody says that the trouble is at my site, I also have an account on CI$ (compuserve). The same thing happens to message I received there. So obviously it cannot be my site. Unless I am doing something that somehow tells the remailer to only remail one line out of two. (?????) And this problem is not only with homer@rahul. Other remailers do the same. I know that it most be something that I am doing but it escapes me what. Again it must receive the PGP message correctly. I am stumped.... If anybody can help explain this little mystery, it would be most appreciated. Please reply here at cypherpunks(a)toad.com and also forward to wizard(a)alpha.c2.org (to see if it works) Thanks all -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQCNAy8X2ZIAAAEEALbeB9136vtAk/FOOb8a1rYv7OWAVJZMiWs/CI1Hla9iUxBj hv+KM1rK31cygbk2/y38cZFQupgP34/0HkLKXsl5bP7vifXi5JzyNpeOmYT3Cr/E FqyWRFUo6dyp7AVm23ryZGZAM2qfcdXaslEqWAD3PczAnQ34vKhVa3SvpHjhAAUR tAZ3aXphcmQ= =syn9 -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----

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Jude Milhon in WIRED
by rishab＠dxm.ernet.in 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

WIRED 3.02 (February) interviews Jude Milhon (St. Jude) who "is a charter member of the cypherpunks - a term that she coined." I didn't even know there _was_ a charter. The interview as such is mainly about why "girls _need_ modems." ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rishab Aiyer Ghosh "In between the breaths is rishab(a)dxm.ernet.in the space where we live" rishab(a)arbornet.org - Lawrence Durrell Voice/Fax/Data +91 11 6853410 Voicemail +91 11 3760335 H 34C Saket, New Delhi 110017, INDIA

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--> A Net-Petition to the Church of Scientology, Please Read (fwd) (fwd)
by skaplin＠mirage.skypoint.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I thought this was topical and VERY much of interest here. Sam - -------- Forwarded message -------- [Hurry! Signature tallying for this petition EXPIRES February 6, 1995! Be sure to send your signature to cos-petition(a)netcom.com -- see the instructions after the petition statement. The petition statement begins 68 lines down from here.] Following this short introductory section is the petition statement to the Church of Scientology and affiliated organizations regarding their recent legal actions which have very serious ramifications for freedom of expression on Usenet and the Internet. It is somewhat long, but the length is necessary to give you sufficient information to make an informed decision. I want to stress that this petition is NOT focused on the beliefs or practices of the Church of Scientology. Rather, it is focused on their recent legal action, and this petition demands that they reconsider these actions for the good of everyone, including themselves. It should also be made *very clear* that none of us should ever condone or support any action which would censor or inhibit Scientology supporters from being able to express their views and opinions on Usenet, the Internet, and all other electronic forums, provided they do so in accordance with accepted netiquette, as all of us should. I encourage you to read the petition statement carefully, and if you agree with all three demands (given near the end of the statement), to then "sign" it via Internet e-mail using the instructions which follow the statement. Do follow EXACTLY the directions on how to "sign"; they are not difficult. Note that only those with valid Internet-accessible e-mail addresses can sign this petition. Fortunately, nearly all on-line services, such as CompuServe, and many BBS, do offer Internet e-mail acess, so just about anybody who is electronically hooked up to some network in the world can sign this petition. If you are not sure what your Internet e-mail address is, ask your site's sysadmin/sysop for assistance. Please do upload this petition statement as soon as possible to any BBS and on-line service in your area. If you have access to one of the major national on-line services such as CompuServe, Prodigy, AOL, etc., do try to upload it there. We are trying to get at least 5000 signatures. Even more signatures are entirely possible if we each put in a little effort to inform others, such as friends and coworkers, about the importance of this petition to electronic freedom of expression. I plan to make the signatures publicly available on or shortly after February 7, 1995, and will also submit them to the Church of Scientology as well as the newsmedia. Important Note: Because of the unusual sensitivity of this petition, I will not submit nor reveal the e-mail signatures IF the total number of validated signatures is less than 1000. This offer is made for those who would feel "exposed" if their name appears on a list with a small number of signatures. I fully expect to surpass 1000 signatures in one or two days! In addition, unlike past net-petitions, providing one's full name in addition to one's e-mail address will be optional. However, I highly encourage you to be brave and include your full name, as all petitions are traditionally considered more "binding" if real names are used. I will tally the number of signatures with and without full names when the petition drive ends February 6, 1995. Thank you for your signature! Let's all do our part to keep all electronic networks free and open for everybody. Jon Noring (Disclaimer: Nothing written in this petition transmittal should be construed as legal advice. If you need legal assistance or advice concerning any of the issues brought up in this document, contact a qualified attorney.) **************** Beginning of Petition Statement ******************** TO: The Church of Scientology, The Religious Technology Center, Bridge Publications, Inc., Office of Special Affairs, and all other affiliated organizations, divisions and corporations of the Church of Scientology We, the undersigned, are disturbed by your recent legal attempts to stifle the free flow of information on the Internet and Usenet. Specifically, you have 1) threatened legal action against several automated anonymous remailers unless they filter out *all* e-mail targeted to the legitimate Usenet newsgroups alt.religion.scientology (a.r.s.), and alt.clearing.technology (a.c.t.), open forums where all points of view about Scientology, both pro and con, are welcome, and 2) demanded and actually attempted the removal of a.r.s. in gross defiance of accepted Usenet practice and netiquette. Concerning 1), since nearly all (if not all) of the e-mail sent to a.r.s. and a.c.t. via the remailers is legitimate and originates from individuals who sincerely believe they need to post anonymously because of the nature of discussion, your demand, if implemented, would prevent these individuals from freely expressing their views in the proper forum. Freedom of expression is internationally recognized as one of the most important and sacred of basic human rights, and your demands fly in the face of this recognition. Your second demand, removing a.r.s., would go even further in inhibiting freedom of expression on all electronic networks. It is a *very* serious matter to attempt to remove forums of free expression. Your primary argument for issuing these legal threats, according to your statements, are that some people (the "perpetrators") have knowingly posted *alleged* (meaning not yet demonstrated in a court of law) Church of Scientology copyrighted and trade secret material to a.r.s. and a.c.t., sometimes using the anonymous remailers as the carrier (because of the common carrier-like nature of anonymous remailers, the administrators of the remailers have no knowledge of such activity taking place). Though we do not condone making copyrighted material available on any electronic network without the permission of the copyright holder, your specific legal threats are short-sighted, perceived to be mean-spirited, ineffective, and are on tenuous legal grounds because 1) It won't stop those who are determined to make available alleged copyrighted materials on electronic networks. They will find other avenues on the electronic networks to do so. Only prosecuting the actual perpetrators will deter this alleged illegal activity. 2) Your demands, if met, will have the effect of leading to significant stifling of free speech and the exchange of information on all electronic networks which, if not illegal in some jurisdictions, goes against all accepted conventions of a free and open society, 3) You have not stated, nor is there any indication, that you intend to work in a cooperative manner with legitimate law-enforcement agencies, the courts, and/or the Internet to locate and prosecute the perpetrators of the *alleged* copyright violations in the countries they originated. Thus, your threats are being construed, rightly or wrongly, by most on the electronic networks as an attempt to stifle free discussion on Scientology rather than trying to locate and prosecute the perpetrators of the *alleged* copyright and trade secret violations. With respect to the attempted removal of the newsgroup a.r.s., you also stated that the word 'scientology' is trademarked and thus the name a.r.s. infringes on such trademark. This is appallingly ludicrous based on past case law of similar situations, as well as your implicit acknowledgement of the legitimacy of a.r.s. by allowing Church of Scientology approved information to be posted to it by your supporters, and possibly with your knowledge and/or approval, ever since it was created July 1991, almost 3.5 years ago. Therefore, we, the undersigned, make the following demands. 1) Regarding your charges of copyright violation over electronic networks: You will cease all legal action, now and in the future, against any person, company, organization, etc., associated or affiliated in any way with all electronic networks, including the Internet, except that action which is necessary to locate and prosecute the perpetrators (as previously defined) of alleged copyright and trade secret violations, and other activity in violation of law, and *only* in full cooperation with legitimate law-enforcement agencies and/or the courts. 2) Regarding your trademark challenge of the Usenet newsgroup alt.religion.scientology: You will cease all legal action, now and in the future, to remove any Usenet newsgroup, BBS forum, mailing list or other similar forum of public exchange of information over any electronic network, or to inhibit in any way the flow of information to and from these forums. This includes, for example, ceasing all legal action demanding a) the removal of the Usenet newsgroup alt.religion.scientology and b) that anonymous remailers add filters as previously described. 3) You will publicly and officially state a) That you support the existence of free and open forums on all electronic networks to discuss Scientology from all perspectives and points of view (which includes yours), and b) That you do not support nor condone attempts by any entity to electronically censor, remove, obstruct, or tamper with any electronic communication except when allowed by a valid court order. If you outright reject or refuse to even discuss these demands in a good faith manner on Usenet, we have no other option but to consider such rejection or refusal to even discuss to be an act of hostility by the Church of Scientology towards the users of all electronic networks and forums, including the Internet. We are certain you do not want this, and we do not want it either, so we offer to work with you any way we can with regard to any legitimate demands you may have concerning alleged copyright violation(s) and other illegal activity. However, any attempts by you of any kind to tamper or in any manner restrict the free flow of information (other than that *specifically* restricted by law -- and *only* that) on any electronic network is totally unacceptable and will not be tolerated for the reasons stated above. Signed, ******************* End of Petition Statement *********************** ====================================== Instructions for Signing This Petition ====================================== It must first be noted that this is a petition, not a vote. By "signing" it you agree with *all* the demands of the petition statement. If you do not agree with all the demands, then your only recourse is to not sign it. In addition, all e-mail signatures will be submitted to the Church of Scientology as well as the newsmedia provided more than 1000 validated signatures are obtained. Including your full name is optional, but very highly encouraged as that would add to the effectiveness of the petition. Signing via an anonymous remailer is discouraged, but not forbidden, as an attempt will be made to separately tally signatures from anonymous remailers. Signing this petition is not hard, but to make sure your signature is not lost or miscounted, please follow these directions exactly: 1) Prepare an e-mail message. In the main body (NOT the Subject line) of your e-mail include the ONE-LINE statement: SIGNED <Internet e-mail address> <Your full name (optional)> You need not include the "<" and ">" characters. 'SIGNED' should be capitalized. As stated above, your full name is optional, but highly recommended. If you do supply your name, please don't use a pseudonym or nickname, or your first name -- it's better to just leave it blank if it's not your full and real name. *************************************** Example: My e-mail signature would be: SIGNED noring(a)netcom.com Jon E. Noring *************************************** 2) Please DON'T include a copy of this petition, nor any other text, in your e-mail message. If you have comments to make, send e-mail to me personally, and NOT to the special petition e-mail signature address. 3) Send your e-mail message containing your signature to the following Internet e-mail address and NOT to me: =========================== cos-petition(a)netcom.com =========================== 4) Within a few days of receipt of your signature, an automated acknowledgment will be e-mailed to you for e-mail address verification purposes. You do not need to respond or reply to this acknowledgement when you receive it. Thank you for signing this petition! 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Lance Rose writes anti-cryptoanarchy in WIRED
by rishab＠dxm.ernet.in 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I've missed recent traffic so forgive me if this has already come up. Lance Rose writes a particularly twisted piece in the Idees Fortes section of WIRED 3.02 (February). His basic premise is that tradritional forms of copyright law are sufficient to ensure that the Net poses only limited problems to mass content producers such as Time Warner. I agree with this, as most people feel uncomfortable about 'stealing' however impossible it is to detect. Lance Rose, though, goes on to insist that the reason for the copyright law's strength will be the power of the omnipresent Net Cops (sic). So that you don't consider him entirely ignorant, he acknowledges the increasing use of anon remailers. However, he adds (repeatedly), "Can't we all use anonymous remailers to keep the Net knee-deep in infringing copies? Nope. Net cops can swiftly clean each new infringement out of the major online markets as soon as it appears." How will they do this so efficiently? By "deploying software agents" net-wide to "search out anonymous infringements." He later admits the possibility of "friend-to-friend" markets, but rejects the possibility of such markets growing out of hand, as "few or none of the participants will know everyone else in the circle" allowing cops to join them undetected (as if the Information Liberation Front would mind giving the _cops_ pirated software). "A symbolic legal attack" every once in a while will scare would-be black-marketeers. Later, he does discuss the hidden costs of acquiring pirated versus genuine stuff - "the time and effort needed to track down pirate dealers [...] who are so deep underground even the cops can't find them." Sheesh. And here we are, post-BlackNet, discussing untraceable paid-for anon-remailers (which exist today on Sameer's c2.org blind server) and data havens. I haven't bothered to hunt for Lance's address, which is not given, but really I thought someone as prominent a SysLawyer as him would be clued in. Nor have I found the time to send WIRED a letter. OTOH maybe ignorance, for LEA-friendly legislators who read WIRED, is bliss? Let the sleeping dog lie, etc, just finish your data haven code ;-] ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rishab Aiyer Ghosh "In between the breaths is rishab(a)dxm.ernet.in the space where we live" rishab(a)arbornet.org - Lawrence Durrell Voice/Fax/Data +91 11 6853410 Voicemail +91 11 3760335 H 34C Saket, New Delhi 110017, INDIA

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Re: Scientology [!]
by danisch＠ira.uka.de 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > 1/15/95 > > TO: THOMAS M. SMALL > COUNSEL FOR RELIGIOUS TECHNOLOGY CENTER AND BRIDGE > PUBLICATIONS, INC. > > FROM: Lance Cottrell > Operator of remailer@nately and mixmaster@nately My pgp says: Bad signature Does this message come from Lance Cottrell or from Scientology? > I am willing to comply with your request. Oh. If this is true (is it?) and other remailer operators do the same, there will be no anonymous criticism of the Thetans any more. An non-anonymous criticism of this "church" is said to be a thing of a special kind. Mmmh, Hadmut

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