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Re: protection on IoMega ZIP drives
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 05:08 AM 3/23/96 +0000, Deranged Mutant wrote: >On 23 Mar 96 at 3:00, Ed Carp wrote: > >> Has anyone tried SFS? It should work on the zip drive, though I've not >> tried it (yet)... > >If I recall some recent threads on alt.security.pgp (or sci.crypt?), >SFS doesn't work on ZIP drives (since ZIPs use the parallel port...). > >[Or do ZIPs use Scuzzies and the people who had problems were just >too lame to figure out that they had to load the driver before SFS?] There are two versions of the Zip drive. One is SCSI and one is Parallel faking scsi. The big problem is with the zip drivers. There is some sort of incompatibility between SFS and the zip drivers. (I hacked on it for a couple of hours with no luck.) Win95 makes the problem worse, as it is difficult to judge just when the driver for the zip drive loads. (I have a number of complaints about the zip drive drivers. Lack of documentation is one of them...) Sometime I will have to fire up SoftICE and see exactly what the conflict is... --- Alan Olsen -- alano(a)teleport.com -- Contract Web Design & Instruction `finger -l alano(a)teleport.com` for PGP 2.6.2 key http://www.teleport.com/~alano/ "We had to destroy the Internet in order to save it." - Sen. Exon

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Re: Thanks for the keys
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:00 AM 3/22/96, whitfield.diffie(a)Eng.Sun.COM wrote: > I would like to thank the gentleman, who identified himself only >as a cypherpunk, who fetched my keys out of the door of my wife's car >(I frequently leave keys sticking in the doors of cars), knocked on >the window, and handed them to me. That anonymity was successfully preserved demonstates the perfect forward secrecy of Diffie key exchange. Or something like that. --Tim "Not the Key Master" May Boycott "Big Brother Inside" software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^756839 - 1 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Re: Dorothy Denning attacks Leahy's crypto bill
by frantz＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 9:33 PM 3/21/96 -0800, Bill Stewart wrote: >>From: denning(a)cs.cosc.georgetown.edu (Dorothy Denning) >>>The Commerce/NSA study did acknowledge that the existence of foreign >>>products claiming strong encryption could have a negative effect on >>>U.S. competitiveness. However, by allowing encryption services to be >>>sold separately from the applications software that uses them, CAPIs >>>will make it extremely unlikely that general-purpose software will be >>>substantially effected by export controls. > >Which side is Dr. Denning _on_ here? At present, software using CAPIs >is not exportable under the ITAR, since the CAPI is a "component of a >munitions system"; is she now advocating legalized export of software >using government-approved CAPIs only? Case in point. I recently had a client ask me to locate a reference implementation of SSL. I fired up AltaVista and quickly found two of them. One was available thru Netscape, and the other was Eric Young's from Australia. Now, in good conscience, do I give them Netscape's non-exportable version, or Eric's already exported version. Of course I gave them Eric's. They were delighted since they can just point their foreign customers to Eric's site and avoid the whole export issue. I would like to publicly thank Eric for making his code available to US sites. I hope that this description, in some small way, helps to overcome the idiocy of not being able to export what is already freely available abroad. Regards - Bill ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Bill Frantz | The CDA means | Periwinkle -- Computer Consulting (408)356-8506 | lost jobs and | 16345 Englewood Ave. frantz(a)netcom.com | dead teenagers | Los Gatos, CA 95032, USA

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Re: Censorship
by nobody＠vegas.gateway.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

drose(a)AZStarNet.com wrote: William B. F--- er, F. Buckley? The "libertarian" who supports blue laws and prayer in schools wanting to censor the internet? Nahhhhh... (And maybe it's not rational, but anyone with a name like "Arianna Huffington" is not worth taking seriously outside a room full of hundred- and fifty year old WASPs burning Beatles albums and copies of Origin of Species.) [...Sniperoo!...] _Firing Line_ debate Resolved: The Government Has the Right to Regulate the Internet "A current communications controversy fuels the proposed resolution in the latest installment of William F. Buckley Jr.'s recurring series, in which participants debate whether the Internet should be federally regulated. Among those arguing for it with Buckley are Arianna Huffington and Reid Hoffman; those against it include Susan Estrich and John Perry Barlow."

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Re: e$'s (mini-rant)
by jf_avon＠citenet.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Jeff wrote: > <begin mini-rant> Hi! I do not know about monetary systems and US laws, but I think that a national currency has it's role. I also think that it should be backed by a physical agreed-on value such as gold, to prevent the government of the day to tamper with the monetary system. But what I think is very wrong with the actual system is the govt control over all other systems. Have you ever tried to raise capital for a technological venture lately? The govt enforces with its own guns a monopoly in favor of certain peoples we call stock brokers. The SEC and their counterparts in most countries is a nightmare to anybody who has a good idea, the knowhow to develop it and no taste for "smart" scheming with money. The SEC rules ultimate result is that it permits peoples to acquire money without accomplishing any productive work related to the creation of that money. I do not mean to say that the broker job is wrong, but the government gun that backs them up is. E-cash might be or might not be a violation of the current rules, I have no ideas. But I see infinite possibilities to finance small idea/knowledge rich and capital poor ventures.... I just downloaded magic money yesterday night and played with it long past bedtime. JFA Public Key at http://w3.citenet.net/users/jf_avon Jean-Francois Avon <jf_avon(a)citenet.net> 2048 bits key ID:C58ADD0D 1996/03/01 fingerprint=52 96 45 E8 20 5A 8A 5E F8 7C C8 6F AE FE F8 91

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Re: New Beta Test of PGPfone available WINDOWS '95 Included!
by Ted Garrett 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 08:56 PM 3/22/96 GMT, you wrote: >jis(a)mit.edu (Jeffrey I. Schiller) writes: >>We have finally released a Windows '95 version of PGPfone. This release >>includes PGPfone for Macintosh version 1.0b6 and PGPfone for Windows '95 >>version 1.0b1. Note: The Macintosh version does not talk to earlier versions. >>However the Macintosh and Windows version talk to each other! > >Will there ever be a Win32s version of PGPfone? I have one of those systems >with non-(MS)DOS partitions that MS-DOS/Wind95 doesn't like, so until MS can >deal with the fact that people use other OSs, I'm staying clean of Win95. Windows95 doesn't complain at all about other operating systems resident on your machine, nor does it invalidate partitions which it can't read. You just can't access the partitions. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ted Garrett <teddygee(a)visi.net> http://www.visi.net/~teddygee "Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one." Thomas Jefferson

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San Diego Cypherpunks Physical Meeting
by Chris Claborne 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

San Diego Area CPUNKS symposium Thursday, March 28, 1996 Invitation to all Cypherpunks to join the San Diego crowd at "The Mission Cafe & Coffee Shop" were I hope to get an update of Lance Cottrell's anonymous e-mail server, "mixmaster", exchange keys, and discuss other topical CP stuff. There's always the semi-topical discussions; Internet Service Provider in San Diego (providing, anonymous remailers and other privacy services), stelth communications, latest Cypherpunk goings-on, Internet happenings. Don't forget to bring your public key fingerprint. If you can figure out how to get it on the back of a business card, that would be cool. Place: The Mission Cafe & Coffee Shop 3795 Mission Bl in Mission Beach. 488-9060 Time:1800 Their Directions: 8 west to Mission Beach Ingram Exit Take west mission bay drive Go right on Mission Blvd. On the corner of San Jose and mission blvd. It is located between roller coaster and garnett. It's kind of 40s looking building... funky looking (their description, not mine) They serve stuff to eat, coffee stuff, and beer. See you there! New guy, bring your fingerprint. Drop me a note if you plan to attend. 2 -- C -- ... __o .. -\<, Chris.Claborne(a)SanDiegoCA.ATTGIS.Com ...(*)/(*). CI$: 76340.2422 http://bordeaux.sandiegoca.attgis.com/ PGP Pub Key fingerprint = A8 FA 55 92 23 20 72 69 52 AB 64 CC C7 D9 4F CA Avail on Pub Key server. Dreams. They're just screen savers for the brain.

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Re: LET'S ROCK!!!!
by jamesd＠echeque.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 07:26 AM 3/22/96 -0600, WThinker wrote: > Ok, here is the situation. I have a person mad at me in one of my mailing > lists. Turns out, this person was the owner of the mailing list! Well now > I'm stuck, knocked out of the list. The owner can not see any of my mail, > no matter how hard I try. I need some ideas to eather get through to her, > or really fuck up the mailing list. > > Any ideas? Life is short. Get a life. Of course you could simply spoof the identity of someone else in order send some exit mail. use the port 25 trick. A parting shot will work wonders, by alerting others that their views are likely to be censored, thus discouraging them from posting on the list, thus causing the list to die, but if you actually put serious work into this and make a big effort to keep up a conversation and keep on going and going then you are a total loon. --------------------------------------------------------------------- | We have the right to defend ourselves | http://www.jim.com/jamesd/ and our property, because of the kind | of animals that we are. True law | James A. Donald derives from this right, not from the | arbitrary power of the state. | jamesd(a)echeque.com

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Re: (X:x)e$ 's other use
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, Gary - actually this comes up every 3-6 months. There are some fundamental problems with the using e$ as a new currency. At 02:33 AM 3/22/96 -0600, you wrote: >e$ would be a sound money replacement for the corrupt currency that >every large state in the world currently pushes. Especially if e$ >can be redeemed in something of real value on demand. E$ is a fine medium for exchanging certificates of whatever it is you're trying to certify, just as paper with pictures of dead politicians is. Printing paper is easy, and it's easy to add lots of zeros when you do. Printing 1s and 0s is also easy, and there are plenty of zeros out there. Digging shiny malleable ductile yellow metal out of the ground is harder. The tough part, with all these media, is getting somebody to give you real stuff in return for a certificate that claims to be worth 1000. The three basic ways certificate-issuers have done this are 1) Guarantee that they'll give you stuff or services in return 2) Convince a lot of people to exchange stuff or services for them, so you can usually redeem them without going to the bank 3) Threaten to beat people up if they don't accept them. Method 1 works if people trust you and you've got stuff to sell. Subway tokens and postage stamps have been used as money because most people want to ride subways and mail letters, and the subway and mail-carrying companies were big enough that you'd expect to be able to redeem them before the companies went out of business (or you moved out of town), so you can spend some money safely. Note that this method works both for stuff you have on hand, like shiny metal, or for services you're promising to do later and will have to get resources for. Banknotes work because well-behaved banks only issue enough promises to deliver shiny metal to cover the amount of metal they have; if they start making more promises than they can deliver on, the market gets annoyed at them and people stop accepting their paper in return for goods and services, and stop giving them shiny metal in return for convenient paper, and Method 2 fails for them. But if banks keep their promises, people trust them, and they make money. This works both in free markets and in government-controlled markets. As long as the banks are _honest_ about their policies for issuing notes, it doesn't matter if they're doing fractional reserve or printing the stuff outright; you can decide how much to trust them, or whether to do all your transactions with shiny metal. Method 3 you'll recognize. There'd be nothing wrong with the Federal Reserve if they only used methods 1 and 2; individual consumers can decide whether to trust them not to print a lot more zeros than they should. And they don't have a monopoly on currency - there are some kinds of taxes that apply to some private currencies, but you can go into the average bank today, ask them to write a cashier's check to someone (and probably still to "bearer"), pay them, and they'll be happy to do it for only a small commission, and American Express will do it as well. And people will take their paper, though in the case of traveller's checks it's sometimes a hassle to accept on an occasional basis. On line, of course, it's tough to use metal as a way to pay people, so technologies like e$ are necessary. #-- # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com, +1-415-442-2215 pager 408-787-1281 # "At year's end, however, new government limits on Internet access threatened # to halt the growth of Internet use. [...] Government control of news media # generally continues to depend on self-censorship to regulate political and # social content, but the authorities also consistently penalize those who # exceed the permissible." - US government statement on China... "SigFiles of Unusual Size? I don't believe they exist!"

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Re: protection on IoMega ZIP drives
by JonWienke＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In a message dated 96-03-23 05:19:55 EST, it was written for God and everyone to see: >> Has anyone tried SFS? It should work on the zip drive, though I've not >> tried it (yet)... > >If I recall some recent threads on alt.security.pgp (or sci.crypt?), >SFS doesn't work on ZIP drives (since ZIPs use the parallel port...). > >[Or do ZIPs use Scuzzies and the people who had problems were just >too lame to figure out that they had to load the driver before SFS?] The Syquest EZ drive (130MB twice as fast as the ZIP, a little cheaper too--around $200 for an internal drive and cartridge, with additional carts around $20, and a 1 GB version available for $500, + $100 / additional cartridge) comes in IDE, SCSI, and parallel flavors. You can get an internal IDE drive and DOS doesn't know or care that you can replace the cartridge. You can DoubleSpace the drive, (I have personally done this) so you should be able to SecureDrive it too. It is a full fledged IDE (or SCSI) drive. Jonathan Wienke

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