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Re: remailer idea... ultimate in offshore siting?
by Phil G. Fraering 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Actually, Low Earth Orbit would be cheaper than geosynchronous, and you could probably piggyback your "telecom experiment" on something like an Iridium launch. _Relatively_ cheap... Phil

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Re: Milgram & Authority (+Ethics)
by Jeff Davis 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- From: "Perry E. Metzger" <perry(a)snark.imsi.com> bill.stewart(a)pleasantonca.ncr.com +1-510-484-6204 says: >> On the other hand, it may be that the time you heard Milgram speaking >> wasn't the *first* time he'd given his talk - he's probably >> spoken on the topic a few gazillion times, especially if he's >> talking to college audiences... >Mr. Davis has stated that he heard him presenting his paper on the >subject, which initially implied that Davis was there when Milgram was >presenting the original research. And Mr. Davis made that implication out of complete ignorance. I am not an acadamian. I am semi-retired, and was quitely living out my life in Wyoming until John Perry Barlow declared revolutionary war in cyberspace. Now I'm hanging out with Math PhD's and hardware engineers marveling at the acceleration of my learning curve. Thank you sincerly for the education, Perry. I appologize for my ignorance leading me to be dishonest. Standing corrected, I will be honest about meeting Milgram during a presentation on ethics in human experimentation. In respect to the inevitability of future stupidity on my part, I will immediately post a public admission of my error as I did now. r. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.3a iQCVAgUBLbWa0V/ScHuGXWgVAQH1YQP/dwgwB/VzfffS4jV8YTJI7ukiIEo43C6D ofz9Mkb3Nyd6oxDHI3omySeud1K3oVKShs99TewPVB5o661eTpF+jcFk/qV4p1ac QPxpFBlG8/JCgWHLYB0UbfAhLP/EebMFa/QFvztJwCKKR67SL26wfaPHs8UB7/Vw HQ4pMFUPBqA= =dTOm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- PGP PUBLIC KEY via finger! JAFEFFM Speaking & Thinking For Myself! * eagle(a)deeptht.armory.com email info(a)eff.org * *** O U T L A W S On The E L E C T R O N I C F R O N T I E R **** ***** Committed to Free Public Internet Access for World Peace *****

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Re: myk-78
by Matt Thomlinson 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I just sent this to a2(a)well.sf.ca.us (arthur abraham) but after a finger attempt, I'm not so sure his account exists there anymore. On Wed, 20 Apr 1994, Matt Thomlinson wrote: > I'm reading through an old post of yours (gosh, 7 days from being a year > old) regarding the clipper chip. > > You laid everything out pretty carefully, but one thing your article > doesn't seem to mention: > > you've created the LEEF [L1|L2|IV] and when transmitted in the block, it > looks like [encrypt(CV), checkword, L1|L2|IV], right? This is a 56+24+192 > bit number ( = 272 bits). > > My question: how often is this chunk sent? seems like you'd only need to > send it once per call, but I'd think they'd send it every so often > throughout a call, although this could cause problems for high-bandwidth > digital uses, right? Also, if someone could tell me if the checkword for the CV is encrypted along with the CV I'd be grateful. That is, is the packet [encrypt(CV,checkword), L1|L....] or [encrypt(CV), checkword, L1|L...] mt Matt Thomlinson University of Washington, Seattle, Washington. phone: (206) 548-9804 Check my home page -- ftp://ftp.u.washington.edu/public/phantom/home.html PGP 2.2 key available via email, or finger phantom(a)hardy.u.washington.edu

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Canadian Encryption info???
by Deanne H Morgan 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I have been following this list for several months, but have not seen anything on encryption issues with regards to Canada specifically. Does anyone know anything about [or have any idea where to begin to look for] Canada's policies regarding encryption and encryption technology?? Will Canadian laws change if/when Clipper encryption comes into functional existence? What about if the US enacts laws regarding making other forms of encruyption illegal? Is encryption mentionned in NAFTA or any other negotiated treaty with the United States??? Thanks, Deanne Morgan dmorgan(a)uoguelph.ca

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Information_surety (fwd)
by Arthur R. McGee 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Now that the cold war is over, everyone seems to be branching out: Subject: Information_surety SAND No: 93-2873 Category: Communications, Computers, Information Theory Subcategory: Computer Security, Cryptography, Information security, Computer Reliability Title: Information surety Summary: Sandia National Laboratories has developed considerable expertise in all aspects of information surety, including the design and analysis of cryptographic systems, cryptographic key management implementations of cryptographic algorithms and protocols, system reliability, system availability, authentication systems, biometric identification devices, tamper resistant technologies, and computer and network security. Our unique strengths include our expertise in providing high security and reliability for a complete system and in our highly experienced adversarial analysis team. We have now begun to apply these capabilities in information surety to new problems of national importance. Potential Applications: - Private and secure computerized patient records - Secure home banking - Secure remote access - Private and secure electronic cash - Secure bank cards - Efficient Implementations of Cryptographic algorithms - Digital Signatures - Private communications - Cryptographic key management - Reliability and availability analysis of computing and information systems Status: Joint research projects are encouraged. License available for efficient exponentiation and for probable secure digital signatures. FOR MORE INFORMATION E-mail address, TechTransfer(a)ccsmtp.sandia.gov Telephone: Technology Transfer Center (505) 2-1--888 Location: Sandia National Laboratories, Albuquerque, NM. Expanded Description: For the past 20 years, Sandia National Laboratories has had responsibility for information surety systems used in command and control of weapon systems and in the communications of weapon release messages. To meet these responsibilities, we have developed considerable expertise in all aspects of information surety, including the design and analysis of cryptographic systems, cryptographic key management, implementations of cryptographic algorithms and protocols, system reliability, system availability, authentication systems, biometric identification devices, tamper resistant technologies, and computer and network security. One of our unique strengths is our highly experienced adversarial analysis team. Before a system is recommended for deployment, it has been thoroughly tested by this team, whose sole goal is to defeat the security features of the system. Sandia has developed rigorous system design methodologies to meet high reliability and availability requirements. Sandia scientists have won awards for their work on cryptoanalysis and resynchronization of encrypted channels. We have now begun to apply these capabilities in information surety to new problems of national importance. References: IEEE article AT&T Technical Journal article fast exponentiation article biometric identification article Other Information Resources: None Related Categories and Subcategories: Biometric identification, system reliability and availability Key Words: Cryptography, coding theory, error correcting codes, privacy, digital signatures, encryption, key management, nonrepudiation, biometrics, reliability, availability ----------------------------- Art McGee [amcgee(a)netcom.com] -----------------------------

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Re: FYI (fwd)
by lile＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

This *must* be an aprils fool that arrived late!!! -lile ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Lile Elam | "Remember... No matter where you go, there you are." lile(a)netcom.com | Un*x Admin / Artist | Buckaroo Banzai ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Re: Remailer Musings
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> This illustrates my point precisely. Look at the messages on this thread > over the past few days; questions about 'common carrier' status, legal > questions, etc reveal that there is, in practice, more to running a > 'full service remailer' than just setting up the software. > > Running multiple overseas remailers may complicate investigations and > legal action *for now*, but I can't help feeling that this is only a > temporary fix. [My opinion, ignore at will..] There's the rub. This is a case of "don't shoot the messanger". Yes, officer, I do keep a log of all messages. However, we do not have the quota to keep the records for an extended period of time. They are deleted on a daily basis. Yes, Sir I understand that it takes longer than 24 hours for you to obtain a warrant. Perhaps you can speak to the matter more directly with the judiciary to help expedite their requirements. You can count on my *complete* co-operation, however, you must understand that their are liability issues which must be addressed. We stand advised that we can not release any information without the appropriate paper work. I'm sure you understand that. ;-) 'Nuf said??

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Re: Terra Libra (long)
by Peter Murphy 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Wow. Correct me if I'm wrong, but has someone been resurrecting L. Ron Hubbard on the sly? Either that, or the scientologists have decided to reform under a different name? Naaw. The syntax is not appalling enough, and there isn't enough jargon. (However, that SUPERHEALTH word does make me suspicious... :-) Yes, Jim is right. It is a scam. After all, it tries to present itself as a transnational organization. Yet it seems to be full of references to "AMERICA", and contains such buzzwords as "Waco", "War on Drugs", "socialized health care", and the real give-away: "constitution". It was obviously written by an American, and is primarily directed towards Americans. O.K. Most of the cypherpunks are Americans, and are interested in such things as the constitution, and Clipper. I have never had a problem with that, and in fact find it very enlightening to hear about things from a slightly different perspective from Australia. Occa- sionally I've seen a silly phrase such as "all us Americans", but I've let it slide. So don't worry. I am not flaming you. But for some reason, that Terra Libra post really PISSED me off. It contained the arrogant preconception that everyone, everywhere, has the same amount of reverence for the U.S. constitution, and in fact, look to America as "the home of the free". Well, I've got news for those blokes. Try to peddle that Terra Libra crap to (say) an Australian (especially those in the right mind set to appreciate such "libertarian" ideal expresses inside), and they'll laugh in your face. They'll look at all the buzzwords, and then just turn around and say: "Nope." Of course, the Terra Libra dudes are probably not intending this for anyone but the U.S. Well, if they decide to expand across the Pacific, they need to do some serious rewriting. Anyway, I have to thank Jim Miller for bringing it to my attention. I did find it enlightening, although not for the reasons that Terra Libra intended...:-) ======================================================= | Peter Murphy. <pkm(a)maths.uq.oz.au>. Department of | | Mathematics - University of Queensland, Australia. | ------------------------------------------------------- | "What will you do? What will you do? When a hundred | | thousand Morriseys come rushing over the hill?" | | - Mr. Floppy. | ======================================================= P.S. I actually don't mind living with a "socialized" health care system. For some reason, no one I know seems to mind either. But then, when some one else suggests that the U.S. health care system (pre-92) is a good idea, everyone looks at him as if he's gone mad. Cultural Differences...:-)

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Re: EFF & PGP
by Jeff Davis 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- You're a little slow, Sparky. I had the <ask(a)eff.org> sig! on my public key a couple of days before it hit the net. One may ftp it, or simply email pgpkey(a)eff.org- It's for sensitive messages and comes with a request that it not be used trivially. It's been out for a few weeks now. I used it 5 April to encrypt my Fed Reserve report to the office. With Dan Brown for a SysOp and average loads tantilizingly low on eff.org, why do they need the hassle of signing their messages? Site security is a site responsibility. The Hoax came out of an anonymous remailer, not an eff.org forgery. The Hoax enjoyed a brief resurgence on the net a week ago and was pandemically debunked as soon as it showed up. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.3a iQCVAgUBLbY80V/ScHuGXWgVAQE8DgP/arMGt9VXmowCaQTTLRIwbGiJxwxItJnB ebvvlf0BRYasBQ8KT3iwFngfLFELTW5lHujTJsB2LUlDz87eNX1Gsb7DVJ8V0owi Px76mCIvM5gEJoPMTNTb2XttZ01K7Hiq9JIJNPmuCUokBpywae+xPklAK91DVNmk OSfIt/QdiOA= =5Rwu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- PGP PUBLIC KEY via finger! JAFEFFM Speaking & Thinking For Myself! * eagle(a)deeptht.armory.com email info(a)eff.org * *** O U T L A W S On The E L E C T R O N I C F R O N T I E R **** ***** Committed to Free Public Internet Access for World Peace *****

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Re: BEST Inc. Anonymous
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> > > > Actually, there's a very elegant solution. Get an eel-skin > > wallet which erases magnetic information. > > > Eel-skin wallets are made of two types of eels. Originally, they > were made of a particular species, which was very expensive. > Then someone decided to make cheap eel-skin billfolds. They used > a different species. One which erases the magnetic strips. (at > least it does on credit cards). I found this out much to my > > Has this happened to anyone else? Yes - check the back issues of comp.risks. It isn't the eel skin but the magnetic catch on the wallet that trashes your cards. > Ian Turton - School of Geography, Leeds University 0532 -333309

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