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Re: What remains to be done.
by jfricker＠vertexgroup.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 05:09 PM 7/8/96 +0000, you wrote: >On 8 Jul 96 at 14:12, Ray Arachelian wrote: >[..] >> I'm constantly switching between NT and 95 and have them installed on the >> same drive. Would be cool to have some low level driver to encryption >> from the Master Boot Record for example to get around unfriendly OS's- but >> then NT won't respect the BIOS calls, 95 in 32 bit mode won't, Linux sure >> as hell wont, etc.... that was the whole idea of having a BIOS in the >> first place, but woe is us. > >BIOS was written for real mode... part of the problem. Another is the >not-made-here syndrome, and in a sense Linux, OS/2, NT and 95 are >different types of operating systems, so a shared BIOS is unfeasible. > >It would be nice to develop an encrypted filesystem that could be >ported across operating systems for those of us with multiple OS's. > >BTW, Linux 2.0 is making a nice step in that direction by adding >support for mounting a file (which contains a filesystem), >specifically to allow encrypted file systems as well as things like >testing out iso9660-fs before buring CD-ROMs, etc. In theory >something similar can be done with Win95/NT and OS/2, but it hasn't >been done the proper way (SecureDevice is really a hack in that >sense). > One of these days Microsoft will officially release NT's IFS SDK. A few "preliminary" and incomplete copies of a 1993 beta release do float around but for a mere $50K there's a company that will sell you the complete source for an IFS. It's a crime that Microsoft hasn't shipped this SDK yet as the Installable File System is one of the great powers of NT. So, if someone is interested in coughing up the $50K I know a couple NT programmers just chomping at the bit to build cool IFS's like PGPDrive, etc. --j

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Re: [RANT] Giving Mind Control Drugs to Children [RitalinPunks]
by Duncan Frissell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 02:03 PM 7/8/96 -0700, anonymous-remailer(a)shell.portal.com wrote: >Something like 10% of ALL public school students in Tennessee are on >Ritalin. Presumably, the percentages are similar in other states. Imagine how much worse slave schools would be if you *weren't* drugged. DCF

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Re: TACDFIPSFKMI (fwd)
by jya＠pipeline.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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HotWired -- "Third Choice" for Netizens may be Libertarian Party
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 19:46:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Declan McCullagh <declan(a)well.com> To: fight-censorship+(a)andrew.cmu.edu Subject: HotWired -- "Third Choice" for Netizens may be Libertarian Party HotWired: The Netizen http://www.hotwired.com/netizen/ "Third Choice" -- Campaign Dispatch by Declan McCullagh (declan(a)well.com) Washington, DC, 8 July The nervous sweat of US voters forced to choose between character-impaired Clinton and vision-impaired Dole may distill into fuel for the Libertarian Party. At the party's ragtag convention last week, Harry Browne began to make a case that the Libertarian Party isn't just for cyberheads and conspiracy theorists. [...] It was a refreshing departure from the highly scripted 1992 Democratic National Convention - more an exercise in infotainment than anything else - where party insiders worked quietly to block a loudmouth Jerry Brown from speaking unless he signed an agreement pledging fealty to Bill Clinton... Not so with the Libertarian convention, which netizens attended in force. Phil Zimmermann, author of Pretty Good Privacy, appeared at a privacy workshop on Saturday where delegates received PGP on floppies. On Thursday, Jim Ray, a cypherpunk and Libertarian delegate from Coral Gables, Florida, introduced a motion to strengthen the party's stance on encryption by condemning "government access to keys" - a mandatory backdoor for the Feds. "Or GAK, as we call it on Cypherpunks," Ray told the other delegates, who passed the revised crypto plank unanimously. [...] The so-called Year of the Net marches on, but the Libertarian Party now stands as the only serious political party with a commitment to defending the rights of netizens. ###

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Re: [RANT] Giving Mind Control Drugs to Children
by jfricker＠vertexgroup.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 05:32 PM 7/8/96 -0500, you wrote: >Tim writes about Ritalin: > >>I've been over visiting my friend to see some of this. The Ritalin-sodden >>kid arrives like a zombie. When the Ritalin wears off, he's rambunctuous, >Alex, our 8 year old son, uses Ritalin. He doesn't need Ritalin to >concentrate. He can get caught up in a building project for hours and >create a masterpiece. He can focus so thoroughly you can't pry him >loose. > >What Alex *can't* do is get comfortably through a day of grammar >school. I sympathise -- I was the same way when I was that age. I had Errrrr. Ever hear of home schooling? Seems like if your child needs drugs to go to school than perhaps school is the problem not that your child's body lacks Ritalin. Sheesh. So it happens that I was talking with a fellow Saturday who grew up on Ritalin. He's 36 now and strung out. Life with Ritalin prepared him for drugs, you know. They were natural. Like the body is made for different laboratory made molecules with dubious effects. He never got into the hard stuff (like the opiates) like the anti-drug people promised though. Also turns out that he now has a neurological disorder that is untreatable and uncurable. So now he's goes through his days in constant pain courtesy of the best childhood his wealthy Pacific Palisades Parents could buy. I wonder if there are any other Ritalin side affects that don't become prominent until 30 years later? But than someone who thinks milk is wholesome needs some lessons is nutrition, anatomy and physiology. --j

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Dry Under the Waterfall
by Duncan Frissell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

If I read *one* more bit of blather about the "information haves and have nots" I am going to take my Streetsweeper down to my local McDonalds and decrease the imbalance between these two groups by reducing the quantity of the latter. It would work just as well as any other solution. The latest blather was in a parting shot in David Kline's last "Market Forces" column in Hot Wired (www.wired.com) "How can we assure that the tired, poor, huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore, the homeless, and tempest-tossed get onto the Net"? (My formulation -- not his.) The answer is we can't. I have been online every day since 1987 or so. Since that time I have begged, pleaded, cajoled, and threatened friends, relatives, casual acquaintances, and total strangers to get them on line. (We are talking here about people who have the cash to easily get wired if they care to.) Sometimes it has worked. Mostly it has not. It has gotten easier to dragoon people onto the net recently but it is still hard. I have taken to telling people who ask me for help setting up their computer systems that I will only help them on the condition that they obtain an ISP account and use it. The usual reason for resistance (beyond a reluctance to spend money) is a failure to appreciate the value of the online experience. No matter how much I plead, many people have not (in the past) been able to see what this all was good for. This was particularly true when online computing was a text-only experience. Non-readers have a problem with text. Now, even though the net is more graphical, it still lacks appeal for 95% of the population (or at least enough appeal to get them on to it). Even though we may know that many people could improve their lives and economic standing by learning to compute and telecommunicate, they don't *know* it and so they are not wired. Par example -- an auto mechanic of my acquaintance was assigned to the office where he worked to handle advanced paper shuffling involving auto parts. He started to use an XT to track parts and got to like it. He asked me for some advice and over the years bought an XT and other machines until he now has two desktops and a laptop networked at home. He's on the net as well. At work, he has become a supervisor in part because he can use computers. The original purchase of a computer has been paid for many times over by increased income. There is nothing new about this, of course. Even without computers, it is obvious that someone who can read and write can average more money in the modern world than one who can't. And yet many people refuse to learn to be good readers. Because they don't read, they also know less. Sans books and periodicals, you simply can't encounter a critical mass of ideas and information sufficient to achieve a self-sustaining intellectual life and the flexible abilities necessary to survive in the current economy. For readers, the modern economy is a piece of cake. And reading is not a "certification" it's a skill. You can get it with minor help. It takes no money and it can't be denied to you by a racist society. Without so much as a high school diploma, a good reader can succeed easily in today's America (credential-happy Europeans have to fend for themselves). Do you doubt this. Assume you are a good reader without credentials. 1) Learn to type. (Used manual portables cost $12 at the Sally Army.) 3) Get a temp job that requires typing. (Lie about your high school diploma. Since you are well dressed from the same Sally Army where you got your typewriter and have excellent communication skills -- these things are under your control -- it shouldn't be much trouble.) 2) Learn to word process. (Commodore 64's and used b/w TV sets cost $25 or less at flea markets. Running the tutorials at hourly PC rental places are pretty cheap as well. If you are a good typist, temp agencies will cross train you on PCs so they can rent your rear end out for more dough.) 4) Become an experienced (permanent) temp word processor on the night shift in the financial district of NYC making $22.50-$27.00/hour. ($18.00/hour -- days.) 5) Then become a (contract) tech writer and start to make more money. All that is necessary for the above is the ability to read and write fluently which is open to all persons of normal intelligence. But most choose not to learn those skills (which is why they pay so much in today's market). Similarly, most people are not interested in learning to compute and in getting wired. Instead they stand around an bitch about how their incomes are flat and they can't find work when they get laid off at 50. Hardly surprising. They've already established that they're dead from the neck up. I wouldn't hire them, why should anyone else. This is the phenomenon of the modern world. So many people one meets are pig ignorant. They are sitting under a waterfall of knowledge cascading over them in a volume unprecedented in human history and yet they contrive not to get wet. Meanwhile, we are told that the information have-nots are being denied access to the wonders of the information age. I'm very sorry but they have already rejected the wonders of the last information age that started 541 years ago with the publication of the Mazarin Bible. People who can't even bother to read and write will not be helped by our cash and Al Gore's preaching. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him think. DCF "So Louis Freeh wants expanded wiretap authority. What's the matter? Craig Livingstone short of reading material"?

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Re: Word lists for passphrases
by AwakenToMe＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In a message dated 96-07-08 23:10:44 EDT, perry(a)piermont.com (Perry E. Metzger) writes: << > Youd be surprised at the # of requests from people who actually had a good > use for it, and didnt have the time to spend writing it themselves. Human stupidity is never a surprise. Perry >> Just goes to show.look at the name right above. It says PERRY Didnt I say it was rude to post private email to group? Guess an arrogant very self-opinionated asshole such as yourself doesnt care.

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Re: [RANT] Giving Mind Control Drugs to Children
by jfricker＠vertexgroup.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:34 AM 7/9/96 -0400, you wrote: > >John F. Fricker writes: >> Seems like if your child needs drugs to go to school than perhaps school is >> the problem not that your child's body lacks Ritalin. >> >> Sheesh. >> >> So it happens that I was talking with a fellow Saturday who grew up on >> Ritalin. He's 36 now and strung out. Life with Ritalin prepared him for >> drugs, you know. They were natural. Like the body is made for different >> laboratory made molecules with dubious effects. > >Yeah, you know, I bet your body doesn't get infected for lack of >penicillin, either. I suspect that taking Penicillin prepares you for >drug dependancies. Why, next, you might take insulin to deal with >diabetes, or worse! > >Thank god most of those heroin addicts never had Ritalin as kids -- you >never know how much worse off they might be now. And if they'd gotten >antibiotics, why, forget it. > >Quit from modern medicine cold turkey. Its the only way. > >Perry > Perry, you're typically vitriolic wit fails you. What's up? Lost your prescription? Snide pills spill in the toilet again?

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Re: Word lists for passphrases
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 09:10 PM 7/8/96 -0500, Igor Chudov @ home wrote: >Ben Holiday wrote: >> If you have access to a shell, and to the news spool, you can generate >> some quick lists by hopping into the directory of any newsgroup that >> interests you and doing: >> >> cat * | tr -cs A-Za-z '\n' | tr A-Z a-z | sort | uniq > my-big-ol-wordlist >> >> With most unixes that will generate an alphabetized list of all the unique >> words in your source text, converted to lowercase. I've had some problems >> with tr on a few machines, however. Adding a '-c' after 'uniq' will tell >> you how many times each word occured (useful for grepping out words that >> appear too infrequently, or too frequently) .. > >Actually I am fairly sure that your selection of words will be mediocre >at best. There are words (such as nethermost, insatiable, insufferable) >that are almost never used in news. If the purpose is for use with "Crack" or some similar program, it might be better than you would think. You won't get the "unusual" words, but you will also get the words in common usage that do not appear in dictionaries. (Such as fnord, jedi, killfile, and the like...) You will also get alot of proper names, which may have been used as passwords. The idea is that words in common usage may be more likely to be used as passwords. Another thing to look for when choosing dictionaries/wordlists for crack is not sticking to english. If you have a userbase that is known to have a certain percentage of people of a non-english background, you will want to find lists of words from that background. (I had a sysadmin asking me about Yiddish and Hebrew wordlists for just that reason.) These can be a bit harder. (Especially for unusual languages.) But knowing your userbase can make all the difference in what it might take to crack the passwords from the outside. --- Alan Olsen -- alano(a)teleport.com -- Contract Web Design & Instruction `finger -l alano(a)teleport.com` for PGP 2.6.2 key http://www.teleport.com/~alano/ "We had to destroy the Internet in order to save it." - Sen. Exon "Microsoft -- Nothing but NT promises."

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ACLU: NJ Alert! Personal Data Chip in DL! (fwd)
by Julian Assange 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: >From notes(a)igc.org Tue Jul 9 15:12:01 1996 Date: Mon, 08 Jul 1996 19:48:10 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: Moderator of conference "justice.polabuse" <bwitanek(a)igc.apc.org> From: Bob Witanek <bwitanek(a)igc.apc.org> Subject: ACLU: NJ Alert! Personal Data Chip in DL! To: Recipients of pol-abuse <pol-abuse(a)igc.apc.org> Message-ID: <APC&1'0'a9f989e8'c0a(a)igc.apc.org> X-Gateway: conf2mail(a)igc.apc.org Errors-To: owner-pol-abuse(a)igc.apc.org Precedence: bulk Lines: 32 Posted: sspnj(a)exit109.com *Computer Chips in Driver Licenses?* NEWARK, N.J. -- The Associated Press reported today that drivers may soon be using a new high-tech driver's license to pay tolls and do banking in New Jersey. The soon to be tested "Smart Card" will carry a data packed computer chip that will provide authorities with access to private information including fingerprints and medical records. The pilot cards will be limited to standard driver's license information. By the time the cards are issued to all New Jersey drivers in July 1997, they would also contain fingerprints and an "electronic purse" to be used to pay bus and train fares, the AP said. Civil libertarians said the new licenses raise privacy concerns. Ultimately, the AP said, the license will contain arrest records, medical records, vehicle registration, and could be used as a debit card to pay for groceries and do banking. "I think citizens should be extremely scared about loss of privacy," David Rocah of the New Jersey ACLU told AP. "They could store tax data. They could store medical data. They could store driver's records, insurance data, virtually any data in the government's possession." The ACLU also warned that the potential for misuse of the information --government surveillance or telemarketing research - - could pose potential problems. ---------------------------------------------------------------- -- "Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies, The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." - C.S. Lewis, _God in the Dock_ +---------------------+--------------------+----------------------------------+ |Julian Assange RSO | PO Box 2031 BARKER | Secret Analytic Guy Union | |proff(a)suburbia.net | VIC 3122 AUSTRALIA | finger for PGP key hash ID = | |proff(a)gnu.ai.mit.edu | FAX +61-3-98199066 | 0619737CCC143F6DEA73E27378933690 | +---------------------+--------------------+----------------------------------+

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