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17 Dec '03

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NEWS: Freedom of Movement Could Cripple Cops, FBI Warns
by Tim May 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

No comment needed. >Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 12:13:18 -0700 > >Freedom of Movement Could Cripple Cops, FBI Warns > > By Klaus Prime > >WASHINGTON, July 9 (Reuter) - FBI Director Louis Freeh on Wednesday issued >his sternest warning yet that freedom of movement by citizen units could >wreak havoc on crime-fighting efforts. > >But travel industry participants warned that U.S. restrictions on freedom >of movement, which would require citizen units to notify law enforcment of >their travel plans and check in at police stations would merely boost >travel to foreign countries which don't have such restrictions. > >Freeh urged Congress to promote the use of a type of "position escrow" >that allows law enforcement agents to track the locations of terrorists, >child pornographers, money launderers, and other thought criminals by >using the position escrow data base. "Access to the position escrow data >base would only be by legitimate law enforcement personnel," Freeh said. > >"Law enforcement is in unanimous agreement that the widespread freedom of >criminals to move about freehly will devastate our ability to fight crime >and prevent terrorism," the FBI director testified before the Senate >Judiciary Committee. > >Freeh has spoken out numerous times against the unrestricted ability of >citizen units to move about freehly, but his remarks Wednesday focused >mainly on the threat to law enforcement efforts within the United States. > >Current laws place few restrictions on where citizen units may travel and >live, except for parolees and sex offenders, and some scholars believe >restrictions on U.S. citizens might be unconstitutional. > >Wednesday, 9 July 1997 17:45:40 >RTRS [nN09285032] >

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From Bad to Worse / Re: Jim Bell (FINALLY!) Charged
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Duncan Frissell wrote: > >Oregonian Friday July 11, 1997 Page B3 > > > >James D. Bell was charged Wednesday with interfearing with a federal > >officer > >and using false Social Security numbers. He has been held without > >bail in the Pierce County Jail since his May 18 arrest. > [Warning! Old, politically incorrect law school joke coming up.] > What was the biggest charge reduction in the history of plea bargaining? > That would have been the reduction from a charge of Sodomy to a charge of > Following Too Close. -- From the International Committee for the Preservation > of Politically Incorrect Law School Jokes. I was arrested for "arson." They said that if I'd turned her over, then the charge would have been "rape." My lawyer pleaded it down to "assault with a friendly weapon." (The prosecutor argued for "dangerous weapon," but I was fortunate enough to have a male judge, so the evidence didn't stand up in court when it was presented for inspection.) > >In an affidavit for the search warrant, IRS Special Investigator Jeff > >Gordon said that Bell was "directly soliciting others to set up a system > >to murder government officials" and that he had devised a plan to > >overthrow the government. > > So where are these "others" and why are they still being allowed to walk the > streets? Perhaps the others are all decent, law-abiding conspirators who planned to have Dr.Kevorkian "help" government officials and, rather than "overthowing" the government, will merely act as executors (pardon the pun) of the e$tate. > All right. You forced me. "Why do they call it the 'Reasonable Man Test'? > Because there's no such thing as a reasonable woman." (See Above) [Duck and > Cover!] Everyone knows what "Coyote Ugly" is...do you know what "Jailbird Ugly" is? It's when a woman is so ugly that her rapist is sentenced to _do_ her again--from the front. ArsonAssed "Justice is a two-edged place to put your sword." Something's wrong when I'm sodomized under an increasing number of laws. Only one response to the dick grabbers is warranted: "Pull!...Pull!" ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Mayor Maynot | Sexual Anarchy: raincoat encryption, mm(a)got.sum 408-728-0152 | anonymous sex, digital fetishes, Zippo W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, bad reputations, sex markets, Higher Power: 2^1398269 | black sex markets, collapse of boners. "Chastity belts aren't even hemmeroids on the anal bi-way."

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Re: The Recent Trend in "Collective Contracts"
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

An anonymous message dated: Sat, 12 Jul 1997 08:46:32 +0200 (MET DST), and signed with the initials KC, wrote: >In any case, it is not true that my intent is to "disrupt the group", >and it is hard to see how my few, offhand posts on the topic of the >tobacco agreement could be seen as anything remotely approaching a >deliberate campaign. I think you are attributing me far more potency >than is warranted. I try not to contemplate your impotence too often, Kent. >KC Damn. Kent's figured out anonymous remailers. I read this message because it came from anonymous--Kent's in my killfile. Know what this means? Anonymous remailers have more reputation capital than Kent. ReputationMunger

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17 Dec '03

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remailer@rcmp-grc.gc.ca ??
by John Deters 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

A bigger quote from the RCMP's Technological Crime Bulletin, located at: http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/html/tcb3-3b.htm [begin quote] There are many anonymous re-mailers in operation across the Internet. To use one of these services, a person must send an e-mail message to the re-mailer, who will, in turn, send a return message which will include a user ID for this anonymous service. You can now send a message to any e-mail address via this server and receive responses without divulging your true identity. Particularly privacy-conscious individuals have been known to loop their e-mail through two or more anonymous re-mailers to hide their tracks completely. Couple this with data encryption, and you have an exceptionally secure e-mail system. However, re-mailers may not be as secure as once thought. For example, the person who runs the re-mailer has the capability to discover who you are and to read and record all messages sent. The Internet re-mailer could be a government sting operation or a criminal enterprise designed to entrap people. Hackers can break into the re-mailer and read all of the e-mail traffic. Law enforcement must be aware of the existence of anonymous re-mailers, as they provide a cheap, efficient, and secret way of communication for criminal groups. Although there are few documented cases of this form of communication among criminal organizations, there is no doubt that the potential is present. But the news to law enforcement may not be all bad. It may be possible for law enforcement to use anonymous re-mailers as part of an ongoing operational plan. For example, investigators could also loop their e-mail messages through re-mailers to disguise their identity. This could have excellent application in all types of undercover investigations. [End quote] This quote, while not the entire page, shows that LEOs are not quite as clueless as they have been in the past. In particular, the author seems to have a functional grasp of remailers, even though he describes a penet-style remailer. He recognises the inherent dangers of trusting a remailer, and even the value of setting up a remailer for use in a sting operation! My favourite part is the last quoted paragraph, where he suggests that what's good for the goose is also good for the gander. Better check Raph's list again for the existance of remailer(a)rcmp-grc.gc.ca NotAMongerAtAll

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Re: NetManage & Cylink Crypto
by shamrock＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In article <9510060012.AA02236@ch1d157nwk>, andrew_loewenstern(a)il.us.swissbank.com (Andrew Loewenstern) wrote: > Anonymous wrote: > > The link with Cylink will allow NetManage to license and include > > the Cylink public key encryption technology in its applications > > with a variety of ciphering systems to be used in the NetManage > > suite, including: DES, Triple DES, Safer, IDEA, Skipjack, RC-2, > ^^^^^^^^ > > and RC-4. > > Hey, this is interesting... will Skipjack be included in future NetManage > products or is this press-release only mentioning Skipjack as an example of a > possible encryption algorithm for use with NetManage? It probably requires a PCMCIA card. - --- [This message has been signed by an auto-signing service. A valid signature means only that it has been received at the address corresponding to the signature and forwarded.] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Gratis auto-signing service iQBFAwUBMHSpfCoZzwIn1bdtAQHhuAGAk64TLT89fxllmp1WhLxT/QJCrUuz3RmG MPI9irXcFyldaHEIlnDGpk7OQug5uTY1 =dyzf -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Senate Bill 974
by David Neal 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Senate Bill 974 The full text is difficult to interpret since it mostly just amends other law. Essentialy the law makes illegal: using a computer for racketeering purposes, threatening to destroy data, transferring of unlicensed software, using any method to hide illegal funds transfer, and exporting crypto software. (Relavent bits are included below). The law also expands wiretapping authority, and seems to allow electronic evidence found during a search to be introduced as evidence. You'll have to insert the text of the bill into the real laws to get full context. `(2) to distribute computer software that encodes or encrypts electronic or digital communications to computer networks that the person distributing the software knows or reasonably should know, is accessible to foreign nationals and foreign governments, regardless of whether such software has been designated as nonexportable; `(3) to use a computer or computer network to transmit a communication intended to conceal or hide the origin of money or other assets, tangible or intangible, that were derived from racketeering activity; and `(4) to operate a computer or computer network primarily to facilitate racketeering activity or primarily to engage in conduct prohibited by Federal or State law. `(b) For purposes of this section, each act of distributing software is considered a separate predicate act. Each instance in which nonexportable software is accessed by a foreign government, an agent of a foreign government, a foreign national, or an agent of a foreign national, shall be considered as a separate predicate `(c) It shall be an affirmative defense to prosecution under this section that the software at issue used a universal decoding device or program that was provided to the Department of Justice prior to the distribution.'. David Neal <dneal(a)usis.com> - GNU Planet Aerospace 1-800-PLN-8-GNU Unix, Sybase and Networking consultant. "...you have a personal responsibility to be pro-active in the defense of your own civil liberties." - S. McCandlish

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Re: Tim May's offensive racism (was: about RC4)
by nobody＠neva.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Anonymous <anon(a)anon.efga.org> >This illustrates what a liability the poster has become to the >cypherpunks. The group is becoming just another militia front, >identified with racism and white supremacy, applauding violent murder >of government agents, one step from applauding the Oklahoma killings. >Its original purpose all but forgotten, the list has died, poisoned >by the hatred flowing from its leader. What would be the most effective way of managing the problem you perceive? Probably by writing the kinds of articles you would like to see on the list. Monty Cantsin Editor in Chief Smile Magazine http://www.neoism.org/squares/smile_index.html http://www.neoism.org/squares/cantsin_10.htm -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBNGtyvpaWtjSmRH/5AQGnuAf8DuLcPSSxta4H5/1C0Apwn98wB2sSn4NT 4VcIfgZo/xQrQcb5HjMIj6F1mJ2modxqM4o33/SqKjceMZxGKPh3lmzraiogM7TS V/saJqc0hS4Dx7FheUeA6l6WO1vlLmDBgWBF6Wza4F2finYdviB7YOKA2PW9Qm9w uC1SQEO90mZfNHbQPYUAFXmVMSf9fvLbJL273YViV8NDWI6Fgca9gc5MZKuOyv2G 1IreweSHPfJLi0005bMKFrQWdMW+0DPUBoDTXLAzL87b9P7oRL+iDdrGqF9tc2H8 SJQ8WZpi2/tCMK15UQyNkFydm3gS29wjhToZQWK07T18SC6tDqcpww== =vTAR -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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