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RLR_lsl
by jya＠pipeline.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

8-10-96, NYP: Peter Steinfels, religion columnist, compares the "religious right" with the "life-style left," and examines how the perjoratives are employed to oversimplify and stigmatize -- an example of the pitfall A. Mehta has critiqued on Cypherpunks: "binary thinking." The real opposite number to the religious right is the life-style left, which includes people who are religious and people who are not. It includes some welfare-state liberals and some anti-government libertarians. What unites the life-style left is the belief that In regard to the widest possible range of basic choices about how to live, the state should refrain from exerting its influence. The more basic the question, the less the role of the state. ----- http://jya.com/rlrlsl.txt (7 kb) RLR_lsl

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Re: Drive the SF Central Freeway, have your license plate photo'ed.
by shamrock＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 11:56 8/9/96, Bill Stewart wrote: >At 10:45 PM 8/8/96 -0700, Lucky wrote: >>At 21:55 8/8/96, i am not a number! wrote: >>>CBS radio news this morning: 80,000 commuters traveling the central >>>f'way in SF will have information mailed to them regarding the quake retrofit >>>How? Their license plates have been photographed. > >>You *are* making this up, right? Please say you did. > >It's possible today, and probably affordable. If not, it will be in 1-2 years, I know that there are video cameras on the freeway. I also know that reading license plate must be trivial, since I saw such systems abroad years ago. In fact, in Europe, where cameras are ubiquitous in inner cities, face recognition is the latest fad. -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred. Defeat the Demopublican Unity Party. Vote no on Clinton/Dole in November. Vote Harry Browne for President.

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Re: Police prepare stunning end for high-speed car chases
by jim bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 01:30 PM 8/10/96 -0400, Timothy Lawrence Nali wrote: >Excerpts from internet.cypherpunks: 10-Aug-96 Police prepare stunning >end.. by Gary Howland(a)systemics.c > >[stuff about police wanting a new "stun gun" that can disable a car's >electrical systems deleted] > >1) You just noticed that your car is stolen. >2) You call the XXX security company to report your car as stolen. >3) The company beams down a signal by satellite/pager/cell-phone/etc. > telling the car's security systems that the car has been stolen. >4) This signal instructs the car to disable itself (shut down the engine, > lock the doors, etc.) and, via a GPS module and built-in > cell-phone/pager/etc., transmit it's coordinates. >5) The car is recovered and everyone is happy. > >Of course, once such systems are widespread, the XXX security company >will be "encouraged" to cooperate with local police and send that >shut-down signal to any car the police tell them to. "Car-Key-Escrow"? Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

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Re: Fun with M$
by Dan Siemon 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

---------- > From: Rich Graves <llurch(a)networking.stanford.edu> > To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com > Subject: Re: Fun with M$ > Date: Friday, August 09, 1996 8:46 PM > > On Fri, 9 Aug 1996, Jeremey Barrett wrote: > > > Information page with a link to a page which loads the control: > > > > http://www.halcyon.com/mclain/ActiveX/ > > > > Quote from the page: > > > > Exploder is an Active X control which demonstrates security problems with > > Microsoft's Internet Explorer. Exploder performs a clean shutdown of > > Win95 and will turn off the power on machines that have a power > > conservation BIOS (green machines). I don't see how anyone can call this a bug. Microsoft has chosen what Sun should have: leave the security to the user, don't take it away from everyone. Java has been sverly crippled by the removal of features that would have made applets truly usefull, like local disk access. By leaving these abilities and allowing the user to choose whether or not to run the object, leaves the trusted objects to be truly usefull. Microsoft has even designed a system of trust verification for these objects throught the trust chain and the MS download service. For details on the MS download service look at the july 96 issue of Microsoft Systems Journal. Security should be a user/parent decision not a general ban to protect a few.

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Police prepare stunning e
by pjn＠nworks.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In> IT COULD be the end of the car chase as we know it. With the In> automotive equivalent of a stun gun, science fiction is coming In> to the aid of law enforcement. In> A high-powered electrical device under development at the In> Pentagon's Army Research Laboratory in Adelphi, Maryland, is In> to be tested by police and border patrol agents and could be In> in use by next year. In> The car stopper works by focusing an intense electromagnetic In> charge on the electronic systems that manage most modern In> engines, disabling them and paralysing the car. In the jargon In> of its inventors, the 150 kilovolt charge is a nemp, or non-nuclear In> electromagnetic pulse. Contractors are bidding to produce a In> police version. In> Very precisely directed beams are required, but even then In> there will be problems. A pulse powerful enough to disable an In> engine at any reasonable range would also be likely to disrupt In> communications, damage television and radio sets, disable computers In> and even stop heart pacemakers. There is also the danger of In> loss of control when a car is being driven at high speed. In> Counter-measures would include using old-fashioned engines In> with no electronics, or perhaps surrounding the most delicate In> components with shielding. The best might be to get hold of In> one of the stun guns and use it to disable pursuing police vehicles. Is there any dif between this and a HERF gun? P.J. pjn(a)nworks.com ... RAM DISK is NOT an installation procedure! ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 [NR]

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Re: Police prepare stunning end for high-speed car chases
by jya＠pipeline.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Aug 10, 1996 23:07:44, 'shamrock(a)netcom.com (Lucky Green)' wrote: >At 23:16 8/10/96, Anonymous wrote: >>Why don't they just have government access to car engines? They could >>just require car manufacturers to include remote shutdown devices for >>the engines. > >But they will. Didn't you know that? Why don't we have people's access to government? We could require officials to include remote shutdown devices when they renege on promises, line their pockets, start wars to get re-elected, betray public trust by cruel neglect of their sworn obligations while strutting and bombasting -- damn fools interrupting my X-rated sleazy cheating schemes to fuck my neighbor's dog, or ferret, or mudhole; god, I hate my momma's favorite fuck-up, poor little me, please, world, help me get off Ritalin and wheat germ and my lead-filled ass. Now, off to Sunday school to pray not to burn in hell. On second think, fuck it, com 'ere pooch.

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Re: Oregon License Plate Site in the News Tonight!
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>This brings up an interesting point. Is it poosible to obtain the list of >all the individuals/corporations that have purchaced the list of DMV >information and post *THAT* information to the net. I think that people >would be surprised just who uses that information and for what... Many states have open records laws, and Oregon seems like the type that would. You might try asking your Legislator's (or their staff) first before going to the DMV, since Legislators are more likely to say "Yes, we're helpful and friendly and like interacting with the public", while DMV bureaucrats say things like "No" and "Go stand in line, peon". # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, +1-415-442-2215 stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com # <A HREF="http://idiom.com/~wcs"> Defuse Authority!

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[off-topic] Black powder source/ I love Explosives stickers
by shamrock＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

By popular request, here is the address for the place that sells the "I (picture of a heart) Explosives" bumper stickers as well as black powder in 20 pound economy packs. Black powder will be shipped via UPS. Coonie's is a federally licensed explosives dealer, offering a wide variety of commercial high explosives. However, such explosives will only be sold to appropriately licensed individuals. They are very nice people, please don't ask them stupid questions. Coonie's Explosives & Black Powder 512 E. Lea Hobbs, N.M. 88240 Voice: (505) 393-0166 Fax: (505) 393-6060 -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred. Defeat the Demopublican Unity Party. Vote no on Clinton/Dole in November. Vote Harry Browne for President.

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Re: FCC_ups
by shamrock＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 14:08 8/11/96, John Young wrote: > 8-10-96. WaPo: > > "Phone Service Via the Internet May Slash Rates." > > Labs of Advanced Technology has developed a way for > people to make long-distance calls over the Internet > using only their telephones, at about half the price of > ordinary toll calls. Customers would merely call a > central number, then dial their long-distance numbers. > The call is carried on the Internet, then put back onto > the local phone system at its destination. The company > plans to charge 5 to 8 cents per minute for all domestic > U.S. calls, which represents a 50 to 75 percent discount > off most domestic long-distance rates. I am glad to see some movement in this area. I designed a similar system for a previous employer of mine. But the real choke point is the local loop. As of this day, the local telos still have a de facto monopoly in the local markets. The new competitors (the same old Phone Company) that we will see in the near future seem to show no desire to deliver the really interesting services that are now possible. They long distance carriers about to enter the local markets plan to offer the same old stuff at a (perhaps) somewhat lower price. The company I used to work for has technology capable of delivering a 10 Mb/s Ethernet plus 100 ISDN B channels to your home, using the very same wires already in your wall. Keep this in mind next time you hear what great new services the local telcos are about to offer. Then demand better. -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred. Defeat the Demopublican Unity Party. Vote no on Clinton/Dole in November. Vote Harry Browne for President.

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Re: US Power Outages
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 06:15 PM 8/11/96 -0400, Dave Farber wrote: >attempt to explain that blackout and how to prevent such. We have not >progressed very far. The avalanche behavior of power systems is still not >well understood and techniques to prevent such failures are not obvious. It surprises me how little these systems appear to be monitored. It took some hours for them to decide that the brush fire on the California border didn't cause the system to shut down; you'd think they'd know quickly that the subsystem shut itself down or disconnected from the grid or whatever because of reason #17... One of my concerns about the situation is that it's only a week or two after Clinton's speech about how The Government needs to protect the National Information Infrastructure for us. I'm not paranoid enough to think that they did it, but I'm sure that within a week we'll see Al Gore or somebody making an NII Protection Agency speech and Louis Freeh explaining that we need enhanced wiretap underwriting to make sure that encryption-wielding hackers don't do it again. >As someone who was married in NYC during the 65 blackout *happened at 1716 A former boss of mine was on his honeymoon cruise in the Caribbean and pulled into scenic Havana harbor the day of the Revolution.... # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, +1-415-442-2215 stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com # <A HREF="http://idiom.com/~wcs"> Defuse Authority!

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