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Paper Shredders
by nobody＠rosebud.ee.uh.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Does anyone know of an AFFORDABLE shredder that really destroys documents by cutting them into confetti, rather than the easy-to-reassemble strips that the typical shredder does?

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Photo copy money
by charliemerritt＠BIX.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Everyone seems to say, no, no pattern recognition in Cannon copiers. This pattern recognition is more than urban legend! I saw it demonstrated on evening news Dollar in Black out. If this is false it is a well orchestrated lie.

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Paper Shredders
by an41418＠anon.penet.fi 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

What about just burning the paper? ------------------------------------------------------------------------- To find out more about the anon service, send mail to help(a)anon.penet.fi. Due to the double-blind, any mail replies to this message will be anonymized, and an anonymous id will be allocated automatically. You have been warned. Please report any problems, inappropriate use etc. to admin(a)anon.penet.fi.

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double encryption keys
by an41418＠anon.penet.fi 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I would suggest that you use two different hash functions on the pass phrase, and take however many bits you need of what's left over. Wonderer ------------------------------------------------------------------------- To find out more about the anon service, send mail to help(a)anon.penet.fi. Due to the double-blind, any mail replies to this message will be anonymized, and an anonymous id will be allocated automatically. You have been warned. Please report any problems, inappropriate use etc. to admin(a)anon.penet.fi.

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TEMPEST and Public key programs
by blaster＠rd.relcom.msk.su 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Electromagnetic Pulse Surveillance Technology. Victor, I have a long > (58K) document about this which I'll be glad to send you, just ask. Please, send this paper direct to me. > any information. Victor, could your friend in the KGB arrange for such > an experiment?? Exuse me please, but I don`t see this man about two week! I also can`t ask this man about all (I like fredom :( ). As security men saw: "if smaller know then better sleep". > Victor seems to be saying that his friend is saying that DES is a > "group" (if I remember my terms correctly), which somebody was > supposed to have proven wasn't the case. Although, strictly speaking, > a "group" was supposed to be f=des, where Victor just says it's "very > like DES." DES is`t group - f() only like to DES (I think, that computing dificult of f() like des() one). > But multiple encryptions as Victor describes are not used. Rather > alternating encryptions and DEcryptions. For example triple DES > dese(k1, desd(k2, dese(k3, plaintext))) where "dese" is DES > encryption and "desd" is DES decryption. What does your friend in > the KGB have to say about that, Victor? If triple-DES reduces to > any reasonable transformation of (some) 56-bit key then it's almost > as easy to break as single-DES which we now know only requires 3 hours > on a $1 million specialized machine. I`ll ask he about this. > Of more interest here, Victor, is what your KGB friend says about the > IDEA cipher, RSA Public Key encryption, and the MD5 message digest, > all of which are used in PGP. We would also like to know if the KGB > has found any weaknesses in PGP or if they've even had occasion to try > to find any. He made same program (LanCrypto). That why, I hear only bad words from he. :) You can read about this program in cypherpunks. >From other KGB-men, I hear, that prophesor Sidelnicov (the well known cryptoanalisist from Russia) saw, that PGP has some weak places: - random number is`t "good" random number. - md5 has hole (but here man lapse into salence:( ). - PGP for DOS don`t have any anti-overloking tools. BTW: LanCrypto play on last weakness: thay wrote litle resident DOS program. This program crack PGP and than pgp sign (and check) only part of message. LanCrypto public this resalt in buziness newspaper and show program on the big computer-show. I think this is rough market, but it work well (as all, that KGB made:))!!! Now I know 3 powerful public-key Russian programs. All wrote by exKGB man: - "LanCrypto" has vary fast algorithm, litle sign and several tools for anti- intruding. - "Exelence" has number of anti-intruding tools and powerful cryptographic algorithms. This pakage also has inteligance hardware keys for prevent introding. - "Blitc". The central bank try to use this program, but boys from LanCrypto find rough hole in hash function of this program and compromite this firm. Now I contact with LanCrypto and Elias (autors of "Exelence"). I hope to use thouse programs in my Computer Security Center. If you want I try to write about this programs. --- Victor A. Borisov aka blaster; Relcom R&D; Email: blaster(a)rd.relcom.msk.su; Phone: +7(095)-943-4735; +7(095)-198-9510; === Don`t panic! ===

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double encryption keys
by an41418＠anon.penet.fi 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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No Subject
by John Farmer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

signoff cypherpunks

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Re: PRIVACY: Shredded trash doesn't cut it
by George A. Gleason 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Re shredding documents: the best thing I ever found was to tear papers into strips about an inch wide and feed them to an ordinary household blender which is about 3/4 full of water. Turns the paper into mush. Flush the mush and that's that. NOt recommended for hiding evidence of crimes; the perfect crime is an illusion fostered by the media. -gg

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Re: Paper Shredders
by George A. Gleason 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

RE fire: you can still read ashes, it's commonly done. Now as an addendum to my previous about the use of blenders: for larger amounts, the kitchen sink disposall with lots of water running... for really large amounts, soak in a large container full of water for a few days to let it get soft, then mush it up with either an electric cement mixer or a 1/2" electric drill with paint mixing attachment. The key to these operations is lots of water so the paper will essentially be a suspended solid that easily tumbles and shreds. Too much paper in the mix will lead to a soggy mat that won't break up easily. -gg

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Photocopying mnoney
by rees＠cs.bu.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi. Could anyone tell me an Online source of information that explains stuff about how money is scanned by machines, etc? Please send e-mail. Thaks. ---Dave (rees(a)cs.bu.edu)

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