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HACK - Class III Information Warfare, Has It Begun? (fwd)
by Rich Graves 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Yes, I recently subscribed to Netly-L. What of it? Any bets on whether the Sunday Times is going to sue Time for this blatant copyright violation? :-) -rich ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 12:17:41 -0400 From: Noah Robischon <noah(a)pathfinder.com> Reply-To: netly-l(a)pathfinder.com To: Multiple recipients of list <netly-l(a)relay.pathfinder.com> Subject: HACK - Class III Information Warfare, Has It Begun? Well this update from The Sunday Times of London clarifies just how much last week's story was based on rumor. The answer: totally. (Esp. note the quote in paragraph #5). From: http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/Sunday-Times/stinwenws01027.html?12 55993 Secret DTI inquiry into cyberterror THE government has been holding a secret investigation into attacks by "cyber terrorists" on the City of London for more than two years. The Department of Trade and Industry (DTI), Bank of England, GCHQ, the secret listening station, and the Defence Research Agency (DRA) are involved in the inquiry. The existence of the investigation, which began in April 1994, emerged after The Sunday Times revealed last week that banks, broking firms and investment houses had paid millions of pounds to gangs that threaten to wipe out computer systems. Correspondence from the investigating authorities, seen by Insight, include letters from civil servants saying they are "extremely concerned" at the evidence of extortion demands. Yesterday the DTI issued a statement confirming the inquiry and suggesting its work had been hampered by the lack of co-operation from City institutions. "We are very interested in the allegations of extortion directed at City of London institutions which were brought to our attention in 1994. We responded then by involving many government organisations, including the DTI, the police, the Bank of England and other agencies. So far, we have not been presented with any hard evidence from victims.We would urge those threatened to come forward," a spokesman said. In one letter, dated May 1995, David Hendon, director of DTI technical affairs, wrote to a company specialising in computer security work stating that he was taking the City extortion issue "extremely seriously". Insight has since seen the evidence passed to the DTI and GCHQ which sparked the investigation. In 1994, a consultant working for a company which undertakes computer risk assessments for City institutions compiled a table of 46 attacks on banks and finance houses in New York, London and other centres, starting in January 1993. The list included details of raids on three British banks and one American investment house. The documents suggested that operations in the futures markets had been a focus for some of the attacks. Documents sent by the DRA, from the office of Professor David Parks, a senior director, indicate that the agency is especially interested in the "weaponry" deployed by the cyber terrorists. The agency believes high-intensity radio frequency (HIRF) guns may have been used to black out trading positions in City finance houses. The weapon disables a computer by firing electromagnetic radiation at it and is a "black programme" at the defence ministry, one of the highest security classification levels. Last December, Parks approached a company which specialises in defensive measures against information warfare and carries out work for GCHQ. For a£30,000 fee it was asked to arrange a demonstration of a portable HIRF weapon in Germany. Details of the HIRF weaponry and its use in the City have also been compiled by Computing magazine, which intends to pass them to the DTI and other authorities.

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RE: Slander of Catholic Church
by Blanc Weber 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>From: Cardinal Timothy May > >(Who believes all cults and religions are basically the same shuck and >jive, and who thinks the "Church of Scientology" is actually a little >bit >less foolish that the Church of Mormon, with its "baptism of dead >ancestors" into the Church, the funny underwear people have to secretly >wear, etc. However, I have great respect for the practical tactics of >the >Mormons, and no respect for the day to day behavior of the CoS.) ................................................................ With apologies to Perry, who could give a flip, my day will not be complete until Tim tells us about the funny underwear (and how he knows about it). > .. >Blanc

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whitehouse queries files on political enemies
by Vladimir Z. Nuri 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

what goes around comes around.. this reminds me of the old stories of Nixon and the various NSA domestic programs mentioned by Bamford ("Puzzle Palace") - ------- Forwarded Message Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 22:23:03 -0700 (MST) To: fsnw-l(a)freespeechnews.com From: Free Speech <ron(a)grapevinenews.com> Subject: [FreeSpeech-NewsWire] Files White House Got >From POLITICSnow I just picked up the following Associated Press story, dated June 7, 1996: "The Clinton White House acknowledged Friday it sought and received more than 300 FBI files, including those of House Speaker Newt Gingrich's press secretary, former Bush chief of staff James A. Baker III and other prominent Republicans." - - -- Associated Press=20 Also, in POLITICSnow is another press story which states, "Blankley, Baker, Fitzwater Among 330 FBI Files White House Got". The following is from that story: Friday, June 7, 1996=20 =A9 The Associated Press=20 "WASHINGTON (AP) - The Clinton White House acknowledged Friday it sought and received more than 300 FBI files, including those of House Speaker Newt Gingrich's press secretary, former Bush chief of staff James A. Baker III and other prominent Republicans.=20 Republicans immediately denounced the White House, saying President Clinton's aides misused the FBI to get information on political enemies. A top GOP leader suggested hearings were in order.=20 White House spokesman Mark Fabiani called it "an innocent bureaucratic mistake" and said there was no indication anyone reviewed the FBI background material.=20 But among the unanswered questions were who at the White House knew the files had been gathered and why they were kept at the White House rather than returned to the FBI after the error was discovered by a low-level White House employee sometime early in 1994.=20 The files - some 330 in all, almost all of them former employees of Republican administrations - were stored in the White House security office's vault in late 1993 and early 1994, the White House said." My comments: I have heard posters say, "So what, I'm alive. I have a job. Why should I care about this Whitwater stuff?" I, myself, have defended President Clinton in POLITICSnow when they were known as PoliticsUSA. I have held firm that there is no evidence against the Clinton's. This still holds true, in my opinion, with Ron Brown, Vince Foster, etc. I stated that Travelgate, Whitewatergate, Troopergate, etc. were much to do about nothing. Maybe they are in themselves. Although, I am on the verge of making a public apology in POLITICSnow based upon the evidence that is beginning to come forth. For anyone who counts himself a liberal, a basic premise is to have the government out of our personal business unless there is an absolute need for it. What apparently has happened is that the Whitehouse, for purely political reasons, obtained 330 FBI files almost all of them former employees of Republican administrators. This violates, in my opinion, the basic principles of liberalism. I will answer any posts in this news forum by anyone who terms himself a liberal and at the same time defends, what I consider, Nazi behavior. I want to add that I have the highest respect for the FBI and all the other Intelligence Services of the United States. The buck stops somewhere, and it is not with the FBI. Best regards, Bob Drake snoball(a)mail.idt.net - ------- End of Forwarded Message ------- End of Forwarded Message

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Re: whitehouse queries files on political enemies
by frantz＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

OBCrypto: William Safire, in his 6/10/96 column on this subject, says, "Under Freeh, the anti-encryption zealot hand-picked by the man whose name was used on the phony requisitions, the Justice Department's most confidential file room has become a walk-in closet for White House pols." ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Bill Frantz | The CDA means | Periwinkle -- Computer Consulting (408)356-8506 | lost jobs and | 16345 Englewood Ave. frantz(a)netcom.com | dead teenagers | Los Gatos, CA 95032, USA

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PGP key revocation
by Rich Graves 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

If you exchanged private email with me in the last 18 months, encrypted or not, in either direction, you should assume that it has been read. If you want to contact me, please use my alpha pager, rich(a)beep.stanford.edu (60 characters in the Subject: line) or leave a message at 415-725-7710 and I will call you back. My backup key 0x6992AB4D is probably still secure, but I'm going to generate a new one as soon as I find the time to build a clean machine. Thank you for playing. -rich -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQCNAzCFUi4AAAEEAN/ubnqjGw3s2lNatp3UIqsMarHA9GyZQijm5kgSMaSrsp6M u43nYmUvcfEAffDv4bH2uH6D1KnSx5DlNoC7uxzjD2jJjAcIiEo/5wkGrBPUBjA+ C9hHsVXIrzDvXWcz/iHAJhyljgqGl9NkvGAy6PNLcJk/ljmixI3DXUbM57SdAAUR iQCVAwUgMbxsZY3DXUbM57SdAQGudwP+MOWhcL+ZtoPDMjZg/qcUyLINlp/0y2/o 9K/bluz0C5Q62wN+9NV3FCghdtdUTYjPd0bMUKVjRds0jedAq5yOqoc3nTamiqa2 Y1ybm7gnlpqubrbVlFnlFLRJspDva6wZfD8Hdzrd0X/BfWIJYLv17epZYue3WCDF zsW2B0n4GNK0N1JpY2hhcmQgQ2hhcmxlcyBHcmF2ZXMgPGxsdXJjaEBuZXR3b3Jr aW5nLnN0YW5mb3JkLmVkdT6JARUDBRAxQg5/iBwV98nhsvEBAXEfB/9KaEAILYNA sNMiIhjcgJWYXh0bfpgNA53wch4jcwpUtn7btnfvpiHXBsfzGhkbNjjVRUqjRzwF 3MvwZvj+ABCIe+JKD2HEZZDe1GH5Bx/OKNWnTxfNQK4oy1pjwQ+mTVHYj1c+P4qb naPW8BLc6rL1jKtDjH0Jm/xC5f1H7dtSTPewv/n4JrcBZFeneOnPOJoM33NQbOgJ 9VEEe3OvW7QbLxwuMKxKwBiOG7BMJDDb/SHanqZo1lExbDXUuAiI18tKW3E9s87t CkJukLJWvXUOA3e2DWN4IDfvFde80NPYbSVbpzLvuLYwxK+iAGshifXVXZe49Cr1 IvTKM+pwI4CeiQBVAwUQMUJ+W/thU5e7emAFAQFMIQH/VilvyRTg23royZQpuk5F YXHEued4yyApNXPthCxZIYe24nUlcgpY4QWKy++nmUV25OGJR6Y2WsC2z0XIWygZ zYkAlQMFEDFAYX1pqHkdFx/OXQEBYGgEAJDoATPIWIxriQa5tadTAu3bGvVv2zkb d0GPXTfr16m/GvLiJ5lmCYqcsKuB/TFcDx/mpKRKQ1kxwOKUwd/W5aSFN5keIlDW xv0XbGVsHfA+k0vUDQ8drEPd5TdIRvNzPqm2bZyVnGslfvYsFM5nSj2GdrkZgxR2 jxBprZhaES0giQCVAwUQMTjO/hRnBgsaWCnFAQHpNAP/ZoZhHA/JzAecCXPETJIf 9zjPKi4Ih465nxwnhXXwUtNVMFjq7SfJWGSPr/Ei+PE+TKunoGY0/FxV38uyFxXR Cu2OD3JMIv24NfnUHPnRq/0Hd/NFknGcL1YMXz2DZ63sPO/8Q8GCxXsQ+503DRS2 EUEUSL3ncsukpyPEOb1Sk1WJAJUDBRAxOM8dFIEgbOEpZk0BAR8NBADNJx2lstV7 FziO7O/Aq50mF/oqy4ccAPGzEr2bzGHsP2p7eOG+YJIGI4OrZljoKfhnTtEHiRtu Fl0m0HsvMVK1Gqbzr+j47gpCDv81WEQae5lNHy5/xWGItEPRZj3EWke8fJWh8HaL f0sSgGaYtFjj4x7E524NONHlvln21VjWbIkAlQMFEDE4zlEaFuRhG5FXbQEBPs8E AIQjJgfAdyLxYz/IQy8dCxviausupCtvKKoKdsLj9Q6WN68tjqtjFJI2QHltyjVT 5cyUTpFfegb0PnBmagvkC9fZF3o7N8Mlf0tPV77w9fbjZ7E7pcGdU4S3PNeDvTAb ChVokB6NigAzXKyaJDlPRAJszF+GOt83HYbOtZWzLEVwiQCVAwUQMTjOsCe8yKJt SqxdAQEPEwQArHWrSOHWL7m4ZK1QIEQdpwlZySJM5w53wBS1APp7/MtE39/7/nTp 4FPs5e0Vx/AYMyWHuSo2NNL+iFmGNYrQzAn3wu866gFefjIabx/g0BaklvH/5RwT IXq78R+//W41UEKu7X4SI4pwg5xNroUsCWdc3id8O4uZiwWydu/ocn6JAJUDBRAx OM4vQK1BjWmSq00BAXXeA/48YpMA9xc02wqScPo+dVPG5EP+K2wSgjoflkjhTkJ2 N+NNcSihmbKbviHZc/NIcpbw+3pKGZNllv0FemlPNUfvvm5ILKv88w9nHK4DXLEt c/BOuCJtHnNqU2edBET6mVOnqKyoTIyYLF3gRQusoxB+P9snPEgjMqGJezekI6tk DYkAlQMFEDCFUk6Nw11GzOe0nQEBqD0D/27O7hOU+DehP4vT1Sb5deYI/bFHoOks TrlGixC+lAsYMigsz3CFzE8XTNzohVQm1iaeO/43YHrr7cLOTfhep41u4Ag0iSUm zzDv0iQyAiolsypcZ49wBc8m3VsJVHpUVMG0qmf34xUxXuNUT4BxgGvXEYjEV8eQ M3350OT5u9i+iQCVAwUQMTjO0tlBWyzhG2y5AQGk/wQAxDjtawWTI8vv7sW1V2dy qbEJ/76Gfgzv/W6pP3MJVrcDesU7/qQ4aSdPAIP7Ac7RXySMMsrdiRQXFKDHW4I4 78aF1A2HjvlMcrdNR+aldaHkyc+ffv3Z0Y1v3ov+GQM9V2KHdtMXOE3e8PlEg5xF iOfwWTpihvCMXeM0P+8t+rGJAJUDBRAxOM6P5PUudM+LRA0BAciKA/0bts6s+xKW eqUMdUjnLclC+Zi50OKhS8LuS8RKLSmo5885eiSMqAaOQYjV924EPBmfsNhWsS3G 51jSxGHj8E/2b3rjsUWOW+O5Lq7DM8W4b0IuQkFINEwgfZ6T5MUc1iPQtYo8l/7W vR3lAhLFQRmnQgGr8at+ekNumeckasFeALQsUmljaCBFbmNyeXB0ZWQgRHJvcGJv eCA8bGx1cmNoQGFscGhhLmMyLm9yZz60QEZvciBndWFyYW50ZWVkIHNlY3VyaXR5 LCB1c2UgMHg2OTkyQUI0RCBmb3IgcmljaC5ncmF2ZXNAZm9yc3l0aGW0KlIuIENo YXJsZXMgR3JhdmVzIDxyY2dyYXZlc0BpeC5uZXRjb20uY29tPrQkUmljaCBHcmF2 ZXMgPGFuMjc0MDc0QGFub24ucGVuZXQuZmk+tBdKdXN0IFJpY2ggPHJpY2hAYzIu b3JnPg== =aVAl -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----

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Slander of Catholic Church
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 7:42 PM 6/10/96, Rich Burroughs wrote: >.... Okay, how about this: it's a _religion_ that uses >deception, mind control techniques, and criminal activities to >attempt to get as much possible money from as many marks^H^H^H^H^H >worshippers as possible, and goes to extreme lengths to silence >its critics. I don't think this vicious criticism of the Catholic Church is warranted here! Many of those investigated by the Holy Office actually _were_ heretics, and the turning of bread into the holy flesh of Our Lord Jesus Christ has been verified by Vatican scientists. Further, those peasants of Latin America who give their earnings to the Church so that more jewel-encrusted crosses and goblets can be bought do not see themselves as victims of a scam. After all, the Church may get richer in this secular world as they get poorer, but the Church promises them a seat at St. Peter's dinner table in the next life. As to the Church silencing its critics...surely you are not referring to that Jew slander about the Vatican banker found hanging from Black Friar's bridge in London? Or the Protestant myth about Opus Dei and its dispensation of papal justice? The Pope can utter nothing that is false when he speaks ex cathedra. You heathens had better remember this, else you may expect an invitation from the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (which some of you heretics and nonbelievers may know by its old name, the Sacred Congregation of Universal Inquisition). Millions alive today will reveal the truth before they die. --Cardinal Timothy May (Who believes all cults and religions are basically the same shuck and jive, and who thinks the "Church of Scientology" is actually a little bit less foolish that the Church of Mormon, with its "baptism of dead ancestors" into the Church, the funny underwear people have to secretly wear, etc. However, I have great respect for the practical tactics of the Mormons, and no respect for the day to day behavior of the CoS.) Boycott "Big Brother Inside" software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Re: Report from Germany on "backdoor" net-censorship
by mccoy＠communities.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Ulf forwards: [...] > Proof of origin of > critical articles will be processed by the server, archived in a data > base observing privacy laws, and stored at a central facility. > Furthermore, sample news articles will be suject to detailed legal > evaluation. Should this result in suspicion or proof of transportation > of illegal contents, the ICTF can launch various steps to work against > propagation of these contents. For example, it can arrange for > blocking of complete newsgroups or retrospect "Cancel" of articles > already transmitted. ICTF can direct possible criminal investigation > with help of its data base. [...] Did anyone else hear "Deutchland Uber Alles" in the back of their mind while reading this? I wonder if the gestapo.de domain name is taken yet... > The special problem of the News service is that information can be > distributed world-wide, yet anonymously. This is different of at least > fundamentally more difficult in other parts of the Internet, so that > the volume of critical content in the News is comparably high. It is kinda sad that these German ISPs who claim that politicians and governments do not understand the nature of the net seem themselves guilty of not understand that all internet traffic is effectively anonymous, Usenet is just obviously anonymous. > The > ICTF will register the information availible on the origin of news > and store them in a data base as to make it possible to determine > who has sent an article or disguised the real author's identity, in > retrospect. "Papieren bitte..." Yellow stars, pink triangles, hmmm... seems to me that the Germans have a rather poor history regarding registration and identity services, but they are once again proving to be good at encouraging "collaborators." jim

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Denver area meeting, Saturday, 6/15, 2 pm
by awestrop＠crl.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- This month we'll meet on Saturday so that a couple of folks will be able to attend Father's Day festivites. As always, we'll meet at the Tivoli; send email for directions. ps -- I haven't been announcing local meetings to the list because I unsubscribed for a few months...just thought I'd advise everyone that this meeting will be on a Saturday. Besides, info about local meetings is now available at http://www.command.com.inter.net/ thanks to some friends who are frequent attendees. Alan Westrope PGP public key: http://www.nyx.net/~awestrop <awestrop(a)nyx.net> <awestrop(a)crl.com> PGP 0xB8359639: D6 89 74 03 77 C8 2D 43 7C CA 6D 57 29 25 69 23 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMbze8VRRFMq4NZY5AQEFlwP/VqxwvfBt4RH1mk+OIuZe16jXFb+NMoIt i6f1p74BL4XX9TdOobxL/Rnc+tswE8fDCtudESB9vwBGdqaBELF1uNZVQ7/1E7iq 8m7Q5vdhHTmhX/2zqQlCNIdmM1mtyJrj86nSSMJ+i1Z1pdi1kSw1TvSNM7e7eMpL 8vZSpxIZy6Y= =FDqe -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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AOL 3.0 and SSL
by John Pettitt 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I see AOL 3.0 how has SSL - does anybody know if they ran the encrypted pipe out to the browser or stopped it at the AOL host ... since it's possible to connect to the AOL host via the net the latter would be a very silly idea ... John Pettitt, jpp(a)software.net VP Engineering, CyberSource Corporation, 415 473 3065 "Technology is a way of organizing the universe so that man doesn't have to experience it." - Max Frisch PGP Key available at: http://www-swiss.ai.mit.edu/htbin/pks-extract-key.pl?op=get&search=0xB7AA37…

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ANNOUNCEMENT: HACKERPUNKS MAILING LIST
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

H A C K E R P U N K S "Obscurity through Security!" Hi! We are delighted to announce a new mailing list, Hackerpunks! This list is for serious folks who know stuff about computers _AND_ want to keep their privacy. The submission address is an anonymous alias, hackerpunks(a)alpha.c2.org. It is anonymous because _I_ want to keep my privacy and do NOT want to answer stupid questions. To further _your_ privacy, we can subscribe ONLY anonymous aliases user_name(a)alpha.c2.org. Mailing list messages will be forwarded to your alpha.c2.org adresses through anonymous remailers. .p This list is UNMODERATED. Due to our organization, we are unable to find out your true identity, and you are unable to find out where our list-bot resides. So - you can now have free discussion about all exploits and great hacks! Just use remailers and be safe... .p Remember i) no one can find out where the list resides ii) nobody can find out that your alpha.c2.org account is subscribed to Hackerpunks iii) nobody can find out who hides behind alpha.c2.org accounts iv) nobody can find out that you are using alpha.c2.org aliases. .p Everything goes as long as it is about hacking. We shall decide later whether we want to keep non-computer hacking discussions in this list or make another one. MODERATE FLAMAGE ONLY! .p Since remailers are used all the way from you to the list-bot and back, the time for your messages to reach subscribers will be invariably longer. You've gotta pay for security. Hackers must be patient! .p See our .sig for instructions; get premail for Unix or Private Idaho for Windows, get an anonymous account at alpha.c2.org, and subscribe! .p All subscriptions and submissions NOT originating from alpha.c2.org will be AUTOMATICALY REJECTED. That will save you YOUR OWN BUTT if you mistakenly submit a non-anonymous message. .p See ya! Schwartau, join us if you have something real to say (unlikely)! @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ H A C K E R P U N K S M A I L I N G L I S T hackerpunks(a)alpha.c2.org Send your requests to [un]subscribe to hackerpunks-owner(a)alpha.c2.org Only nyms from @alpha.c2.org may subscribe and post to this list. See http://www.c2.org/anon.phtml, http://www.c2.net/~raph/premail @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

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