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Re: [Linux] Unix plugins for Netscape (Was: Calling other code in Java applications and applets)
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 10:45 AM 5/2/96 -0700, Ian Goldberg wrote: >I'd venture a guess that most people who have a Linux box sufficiently cool >to run netscape at all, have the ability to run ELF. In fact, there are >probably a lot of people (like everyone who bought Slackware 3.0 or a recent >RedHat) for which netscape is the _only_ a.out binary on their system. In order to run any of the recient kernels you HAVE to be running ELF. (Or have your copy of GCC upgraded to 2.7.0 or higher.) The docs make no mention of it, but it barfs on the make if you do not have it. (There are three flags that are not supported under the old versions of GCC.) > - Ian "Add me to the 'Make an ELF Linux binary!!!' list..." Are they keeping a list? As for Linux, last I heard it was still on the semi-supported list. (The dropping of BSD on the fasttrack server pisses me off as well, but that is another matter...) I would like to get a version of the Linux binary that supports 128 bit SSL. (As well as the ELF binaries.) --- Alan Olsen -- alano(a)teleport.com -- Contract Web Design & Instruction `finger -l alano(a)teleport.com` for PGP 2.6.2 key http://www.teleport.com/~alano/ "We had to destroy the Internet in order to save it." - Sen. Exon

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Re: ITARs and the Export of Classes and Methods
by frantz＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 11:49 AM 4/30/96 -0700, Timothy C. May wrote: >An interesting situation for the ITARs, if they try to restrict bignum >classes, for example. A class-based system, if done correctly (in whatever >language, e.g., C++ or Java), should have _most_ of the hard crypto work >already implemented in classes and methods (for bignums, modular >exponentiation, etc.), with the final crypto program much more easily >implemented and exported. Certain languages, e.g. Smalltalk, and I believe lisp and scheme, have bignums as a built-in type. (Or more specifically, their integer types are limited in size only by available memory.) I believe these languages are freely exportable. Your problem stays here in the good ol' USA. You can't implement RSA directly in these languages (I assume RSA in perl has the same problem), because of the patent restrictions. Yet another reason to buy a T-shirt. Regards - Bill ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Bill Frantz | The CDA means | Periwinkle -- Computer Consulting (408)356-8506 | lost jobs and | 16345 Englewood Ave. frantz(a)netcom.com | dead teenagers | Los Gatos, CA 95032, USA

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Re: Senator, your public key please?
by jim bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:01 PM 5/16/96 -0400, Black Unicorn wrote: > >Secondly, the Ethics Committee was very interested in the issue. As of >now they have ruled that "exchanging" PGP signatures is an "exchange in >kind" and an ethics violation. Ms. Howell expressed exasperation over >this lunacy, but put it much this way: "No, you guys don't understand >what the issues are here, but I don't have 3 hours to explain it all to >you either." Apparently the ethics committee is concerned that a >signature from Leahy's key will constitute some sort of endorsement and the >"you sign mine and I'll sign yours" looks like influence peddling. > >Part of the problem was that several politically oriented groups >approached Leahy's office and descended like vultures on a carcass, >all of them wanting to certify his key. > >No signing from Senator's keys for the time being. She said the ethics >committee went so far as to prohibit them from soliciting signatures from >others as well. Her conservative (and reasonable) interpretation was that >she couldn't hand over a fingerprint of the key for signing purposes. > >As things stand now Ms. Howell intends to try and educate some of the key >Ethics members over the August break and have a decent signing policy >after the break itself. > >Welcome to the hill. Gee, isn't it too bad that nobody has thought of a solution for all these politician-problems? B^) Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

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Re: SEVERE undercapacity, we need more remailer servers FAST
by jim bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 06:44 PM 5/17/96 -0500, snow wrote: > How about this as an idea: > > Get a few (3 to 5) accounts in a high density market (i.e. lots of >ISP's locally) set up a unix machine on a cheap machine. Have the anon >messages get sent to the pop accounts. Once an hour (or less depending on >budget) have the unix box poll the different pop accounts mix the messages >and resend them the next hour. > This could be further obfuscated by batching the messages up and >posting a whole chunk of messages to a different similar remailer else >where, or by just plopping an encrypted tar'd file on a ftp site where >another remailer grabs them and splits and remails them. It seems to me that if we consider that there are two separate functions remailers provide: 1. Anonymization. 2. Jurisdiction swapping Then perhaps one way to improve the robustness of remailers against copyright-type legal attacks is to provide remailers with temporary (1-2 week) remail-only sites. All material would be processed by the front end, then delivered in bulk to the other site. This sounds similar to the idea you described. That way, the remailer's "front end" can stay around for years, developing reputation. Any attack on copyright would simply be an attack on the back end, which wouldn't last anyway. Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

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Re: The Crisis with Remailers
by loki＠infonex.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 8:37 PM 5/15/96, Timothy C. May wrote: >We used to discuss remailer architecture, topology, functionality, and >"ideal behavior" quite a bit a few years ago, but seldom do here on the >Cypherpunks list anymore. Various reasons: same old discussions, >commercialization of Mixmaster-type remailers (so I hear, and Lance >Cottrell can clarify this if this is indeed a factor) may be inhibiting >free discussion of planned features, and perhaps the discussion is going on >elsewhere (on remailerpunks, or the remailer operator's list). > The commercialization of Mixmaster fell through some time ago. It is back to being completely free of encumberments. A second implementation is also in the works (by a better programmer than I). -Lance ---------------------------------------------------------- Lance Cottrell loki(a)obscura.com PGP 2.6 key available by finger or server. Mixmaster, the next generation remailer, is now available! http://www.obscura.com/~loki/Welcome.html or FTP to obscura.com "Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra. Suddenly it flips over, pinning you underneath. At night the ice weasels come." --Nietzsche ----------------------------------------------------------

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Re: crosspost re remailers
by frantz＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 7:07 AM 5/18/96 +0200, Benjamin Brochet wrote: >WHO IS THE MODERATOR OF THIS LIST ? > >I've been victim of a spoofing from a german.... he suscribed me to 2200 >mailing list... also I'd to be unsuscribed from your list ! > There is no moderator. I am just a subscriber like yourself (except I asked for it.) Did you get a welcome message which included information like the following? >If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, >you can send mail to "Majordomo(a)toad.com" with the following command >in the body of your email message: > > unsubscribe cypherpunks ben(a)bb-soft.com (Benjamin Brochet) > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Bill Frantz | The CDA means | Periwinkle -- Computer Consulting (408)356-8506 | lost jobs and | 16345 Englewood Ave. frantz(a)netcom.com | dead teenagers | Los Gatos, CA 95032, USA

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Rumor: DSS Broken?
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

This is a rumor. It is only a rumor. If you don't want to read a rumor, please hit your "d" key now... A wierd thing happened to me today. I was talking to someone who was talking to someone (have I said this is a rumor yet?) who was solicited for comment by a Very Famous Reporter about the fact that DSS, the Digital Signature Standard, promulgated by NIST, I believe, had been broken. I seem to remember people scoffing about it here when it came out, so news of it's breaking is probably not a big deal to some of us. However, I understand that people are shipping product and offering consulting services based on DSS, and if the rumor is in fact true, there may be more fun and games in the press about it... Cheers, Bob Hettinga ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "If they could 'just pass a few more laws', we would all be criminals." --Vinnie Moscaritolo The e$ Home Page: http://thumper.vmeng.com/pub/rah/

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Fwd: Floodgate
by GreggMan＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: Rumor: DSS Broken?
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>I was talking to someone who was talking to someone (have I said this is a >rumor yet?) who was solicited for comment by a Very Famous Reporter about >the fact that DSS, the Digital Signature Standard, promulgated by NIST, I >believe, had been broken. MD5 is at least weakened, maybe broken; there's an abstract by Hans Dobbertin that says something about generating collisions, and gives an example (though the abstract doesn't say how general the method is.) It does appear that the method can't generate collisions of arbitary form (i.e. the original string was "11111111MySecretKey0..0Message11111111" and the string that has the same hash is 'posk cpidjuwfviejwvijevijefivjefvjifejvij viaA" DSS is known to have subliminal channels - in addition to signing a message, you can embed bits that can be viewed by someone who knows the key, so the digital signature on your passport/healthcare/workauthorization smartcard can also hide data saying "Jew. Not Gay. Commie. Failed drug test once." This was discovered/published by Gus Simmons, and is in Applied Crypto; there are several channels with varying amounts of data, computation requirements, and such. # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com, +1-415-442-2215 # goodtimes signature virus innoculation

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Re: PLEASE HELP ME GO OUT OF THIS LIST!!!!!!
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 9:14 PM 5/18/96, Marc Escalier wrote: >how to go out of this list. >please help me, it would be VERY NICE. Thanks to recent legal inquiries by the Church of Scientology, they have determined that Major Domo, believed to be an army officer stationed at Fort George Meade, Maryland, is the control officer for the Cypherpunks mailing list. The Scientologists have determined that Major Domo works in "Terminal Operations Access Division," or "T.O.A.D." By sending a message to majordomo(a)toad.com, with the body messsage of "unsubscribe cypherpunks" (without the quote marks), Major Domo may choose to take pity on you and remove you. Of course, his superior, Colonel Mode, may insist you remain on the list. --Klaus! von Future Prime THE X-ON CONGRESS: INDECENT COMMENT ON AN INDECENT SUBJECT, by Steve Russell, American Reporter Correspondent....You motherfuckers in Congress have dropped over the edge of the earth this time... "the sorriest bunch of cocksuckers ever to sell out the First Amendment" or suggesting that "the only reason to run for Congress these days is to suck the lobbyists' dicks and fuck the people who sent you there," ....any more than I care for the language you shitheads have forced me to use in this essay...Let's talk about this fucking indecent language bullshit.

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