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BoS: Bug bugs privacy file but a fix is on the way (fwd)
by Patrick Oonk 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: >From best-of-security-request(a)cyber.com.au Tue Aug 26 08:30:06 1997 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 16:16:35 +1000 (EST) From: darrenr(a)melb.convergent.com.au (Darren Reed) Message-Id: <199708260343.NAA08202(a)duchess.melb.arcsystems.com.au> Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 13:43:37 +1000 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darrenr(a)cyber.com.au Old-Status: O Resent-Message-ID: <"kYO8a.A.IkC.-PmA0"@plum> X-Loop: best-of-security(a)cyber.com.au Errors-To: best-of-security-request(a)cyber.com.au Precedence: list Resent-Sender: best-of-security-request(a)cyber.com.au To: best-of-security(a)cyber.com.au Resent-From: best-of-security(a)cyber.com.au X-OS: FreeBSD3.0-current X-Mailing-List: <best-of-security(a)cyber.com.au> ftp://ftp.cyber.com.au/pub/archive/b-o-s/ X-Subscription: To unsubscribe from this fine mailing list mail best-of-security-request(a)cyber.com.au with Subject: unsubscribe Subject: BoS: Bug bugs privacy file but a fix is on the way A "flaw" in the encryption program PGP 5.0 was reported to the Australian security organisation AusCERT lat week, and a recommended fix was issued later in the week. Security consultant Paul Drake, an expatriate Australian working for a company called NetSafe, said he had discovered a bug that menat PGP 5.0 (for "Pretty Good Privacy") kept passwords in memory "at all times", as well as part of the text of whatever had been encrypted. The keyfile was also being kept in a relatively insecure file, he said. AusCERT confirmed the problem had been reported and said they were investigating. PGP advocate peter Moon, who is pushing for wider use of the software in Australia, said while the problems pointed out by Drake were "valid", they were more weak points than "bugs". "The PGP encrpytion algorithm is - as anyone knows - as solid as a rock. The attacks are all based on the principal that if you want to break into the strongest box in the world, the easiest way is to pinch thekey." He said a product called bcwipe could clear the saved information and the keyfile should probably be deleted altogether. Drake said PGP, a United States-based company, would release "PGP 5.01" without the problem. -- Jenny Sinclair, Page D4, The Age, Tuesday 26 August 1997 -- | Patrick Oonk - http://patrick.mypage.org/ - patrick(a)pine.nl | | PGP Key ID 0xDA2E93FA - Internic PO59 - <clicketyclick> | | Pine Internet B.V. Consultancy, installatie en beheer | | Tel: +31-70-3111010 - Fax: +31-70-3111011 - http://www.pine.nl/ |

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Re: Socio-Economic Cults (Re: Cypherpunk Cults)
by John Smith 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

"William H. Geiger III" <whgiii(a)amaranth.com>: >>You stole from me. >>*BANG* > >yep > >>You raped my sister >>*BANG* > >yep > >As is the first two cases the "criminal" has violated my property & >family. Such crimes are worthy of immediate death. You steal, you >assault >or threaten me or my family you have committed suicide. > >It is a quite simple and effective philosophy: > >"You fuck with me, my family, or my property you die. You leave me >alone >and I leave you alone." > >Even someone like you can understand such a philosophy. Well, I can't. It's very confusing. Are there judges in your philosophy, or do you just decide for yourself who to shoot? "You walked on my property." BANG. "Your music kept me awake all night." BANG. "I warned you to cut that tree down, and now it fell on my house." BANG. Or how about escalation: "You raped my daughter" "No way, she wanted it as much as I did" "That's not what she tells me. You die." BANG. "You shot my son" "Bullshit, he had it coming after what he did to my daughter." "Bullshit yourself." BANG. "You shot my pa" "He shot my son" "You're gonna die." "I'm taking you with me then." BANG. BANG. BANG. BANG. BANG. BANG. BANG. BANG. BANG. You know, there's a reason people started using judges to help settle disputes. There's a reason the common law evolved with the idea of proportionate response and restitution. This kind of shoot-everybody-I-think-harmed-me approach just doesn't work. Nobody knows what someone else will consider harm worth shooting over. If somebody disagrees that a shooting was justified, they'll shoot back, and feuds begin. The current system stinks, but your idea is no better. "John ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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Re: Welfare Solution #389
by Alex Le Heux 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 At 06:32 8/26/97 -0400, you wrote: [...] >>It's this attitude that creates most of the drug 'problem' for society. >>It's not the drugs. People can function fine while enjoying their hits of >>beer, weed, coke or whatever. It's the ciminalisation of some drugs and >>the attitude of people like William H. Geiger III that make the drug user >>outcasts from society. > >You are making unfounded assumptions of my position on drug use. > I see that I did. No problem, plenty of new stuff here to keep the argument going... >I really could care less about someone who uses drugs on a recreational >basis and is able to buy his drugs with his/her/its *own* money. I think >it is a total waste for those who prefer to spend their life drooling in a >corner with a needle in their arm and/or crack pipe in their hand. Even so >if they or their families are wealthy enough to support this behavior more >power to them. > >What I strongly object to is my hard earned $$$ being stolen from me to >support this behavior either in the form of taxes spent on Welfare & SS or >(for the more ambitious junkie) stolen/robbed directly. > >As a Libertarian I am all for the legalization of drugs. Our current >politicians seem incapable of learning from the past that prohibition >never works and causes more problems than it solves (Econmics 101 supply & >demand). > I suppose you believe that a drug addict has no one to blame but himself, and that he should take _all_ of the blame. I don't. They certainly deserve some credit for the mess they're in, but not entirely. Bad luck has a lot to do with it as well. Just like getting blown off a cliff by the wind. You shouldn't have been there, you should have been strong enough not be blown off, etc.... Also, it being the druggie's fault or not, treating him as an outcast is not going to solve the problem. It'll only make it worse. For him, and for the rest of us. What works much better is treating his addiction more like a disease. This is what we do in The Netherlands. We have few junkies living in the street, rarely does a granny get her head blown off for a nickle and a dime. Also the mortality rate under the junkies is very low, although I suspect you don't see that as a good thing. The 'drug problem' as it exists in most places in this world is the result of the mindboggeling numbers of people living in tiny spaces. It is a problem of us all, so the bill ends up with us all. Procecuting the addict only serves to drive up that bill. Killing him is certainly the cheap option, but a healthy society takes care of it's members, even if they mess up so spectacularly. Several programs, in The Netherlands and Switzerland and probably other places, have shown that by far the cheapest and least painful solution for all is just to give the man his drugs. In fact, Switzerland is doing just that with it's heroin addicts. As it turns out most of them get some sort of life back together, a lot even manage to get and hold jobs and thus become productive citizens dispite their addiction. >I also believe, as a Libertarian, that I have the "GOD given right" to >defend myself, my family, and my property, with deadly force if needed >(and I am the one who gets to decide when such force is needed not some >bureaucrat in DC). > Alex -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 Charset: noconv iQA/AwUBNAMoqtuYAh4dUSo/EQK4agCggmF6hyfTkoR8hkEF6Lq7hPP15M0AoKC0 514gFnHTR2QkDuIXFF41S3Q1 =aK4Q -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Socio-Economic Cults (Re: Cypherpunk Cults)
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Sweden's Social Democrats Sterilize the Inferior
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> >From: David Boaz <dboaz(a)cato.org> >Subject: Social Democrats Sterilize the Inferior > >Surprisingly, the revelations about 40 years of forced sterilizations by the >Social Democratic governments in Sweden generated only small stories in the >New York Times and the Washington Post. I'm sure they would have been >equally uninterested in revelations about forced sterilization in, say, >Thatcher's Britain. Be sure to read to the last line of the story where at >last the AP pins it directly on the Social Democrats' ideas. > > > >By JIM HEINTZ >.c The Associated Press > >STOCKHOLM, Sweden (Aug. 25) - They were found to be ''inferior,'' flawed by >bad eyesight, mental retardation or ''undesirable'' racial characteristics. >To prevent this genetic heritage from being passed on, they were sterilized - >sometimes involuntarily. > >Sweden had as many as 60,000 of its own citizens sterilized between 1935 and >1976. Adults and children were singled out by doctors, school authorities or >other officials and were pressured to consent to the procedures. > >This sterilization program bore chilling similarities to Nazi ideas of racial >superiority - and media reports on it now are provoking sober >self-examination. > >The program stemmed from the pursuit of eugenics, a once-popular movement to >improve humanity by controlling genetic factors in reproduction. > >Though Sweden's sterilization program was a matter of record, it received >little public attention, ignored in schoolbooks and hardly mentioned in >reference works. A recent series by the prestigious newspaper Dagens Nyheter, >however, has stirred national debate. > >Especially shocking to many Swedes is the fact that the law allowing the >sterilizations wasn't overturned until 1976, three decades after the Nazis' >human engineering policies collapsed in the rubble of the Third Reich. > >The sterilizations targeted a wide range of people: those of mixed race; >unmarried mothers with several children; people judged to be habitual >criminals; even a boy considered ''sexually precocious.'' > >''Grounds for recommending sterilization: unmistakable Gypsy features, >psychopathy, vagabond life,'' reads one document cited by Dagens Nyheter. > >Maria Nordin, 72, told the newspaper she had been sterilized in 1943 because >she was regarded as mentally inferior. > >''One day, the (school) superintendent said I should come into his room to >sign some papers. I understood what this was about so I ran into a toilet and >sat there and cried for a long time for myself,'' she said. > >Sweden, with its well-developed welfare state and long-standing progressive >stances on social issues, is not accustomed to being on the defensive on >ethical issues. > >''This is a frightening picture that now is being shown to the Swedish >people,'' Alf Svensson, chairman of the opposition Christian Democratic >Party, said in a letter to Prime Minister Goeran Persson. > >Social Minister Margot Wallstroem says she is considering whether to >compensate people who were forcibly sterilized. That would require >overturning current law that says the victims can't get compensation because >the sterilizations were lawful when performed. > >Nordin applied for compensation last year but her request was turned down by >Wallstroem, who now says she feels ashamed over the matter. > >''I will take up the matter for discussion with the government. It is the >least I can do,'' the Cabinet minister said. > >The Dagens Nyheter report has hit Swedes at a time when they were already >examining some painful history from World War II. The government, under >increasing international pressure, is looking into whether property looted by >the Nazis from Jews in other countries ended up in Sweden. > >The issue of forced sterilization stands to be even more troublesome, because >it was conducted under the ostensibly benign gaze of the Social Democrats - >that party that built Sweden's welfare state and proclaimed it a paragon of >enlightened government. > >''The Social Democrats are implicated in a collective guilt,'' said Social >Minister Wallstroem, herself a member of the party. > >The sterilization programs can be traced to turn-of-the-century enthusiasm >for eugenics. > >The movement had adherents in many countries, but ''Sweden was the first in >the world to grant this pseudoscience official recognition,'' Dagens Nyheter >wrote in describing how Sweden established an Institute of Racial Biology in >1921. > >Not only did eugenics foresee an improved human race, it also was appealing >to Social Democrats, who were beginning to see that Sweden's welfare state >would be costly and wanted to limit the number of people who would have to be >supported, the newspaper said. > > AP-NY-08-25-97 1903EDT > > >

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SF Bay Area D-H patent party?
by Lucky Green 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Who in the SF Bay Area plans to throw a party in honor of the upcoming expiration of the Diffie-Hellman patent? Several people had mentioned in the past they might do so. [Some of your are bcc'ed]. The patent will expire just a few weeks from now. Anybody? Thanks, --Lucky Green <shamrock(a)netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred. DES is dead! Please join in breaking RC5-56. http://rc5.distributed.net/

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No. 8 / Re: Top 10 Ways to Make a Grouchy Old CypherPunk Smile
by bureau42 Anonymous Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Top 10 Ways to Make a Grouchy Old CypherPunk Smile -------------------------------------------------- #10) Find his shoes for him. #9) Buy Kent Crispin a Dr. Kevorkian gift-certificate. #8) Lock. #7) #6) #5) #4) #3) #2) #1) [This space reserved for T.C. May]

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Govt seeking emergency stay in Bernstein case
by John Gilmore 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 13:43:36 -0700 From: Cindy Cohn <Cindy(a)mcglashan.com> Hi all, Just talked to Mr. Coppolino at the Justice Department. They are filing ex parte emergency stay papers tonight or tomorrow morning to try to stay the impact of Judge Patel's ruling pending appeal. He'll be faxing me the documents when they are ready. He said yesterday that they would seek to stay the "export" of crypto source code, although not the teaching or discussion (whatever that means). Cindy ************************ Cindy A. Cohn McGlashan & Sarrail, P. C. 177 Bovet Road, 6th Floor San Mateo, CA 94402 (415) 341-2585 (tel) (415)341-1395 (fax) Cindy(a)McGlashan.com http://www.McGlashan.com

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Cypherpunks party videos
by Lucky Green 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Good stuff from HIP keeps trickling in. See Brian the HIP brain. Witness Cypherpunks dancing. Watch your's truly as a DJ. http://www.ito.com/mpeg/hip/ --Lucky Green <shamrock(a)netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred. DES is dead! Please join in breaking RC5-56. http://rc5.distributed.net/

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17 Dec '03

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