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ANNOUNCE: Mixmaster 2.0.4 beta available (fwd)
by Fred B. Ringel 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi all- No warranties or representations regarding this announcement, however I thought some on the list might find this of interest. I'm putting mine together right now. Fred ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 03:25:08 +0200 (MET DST) From: Name Withheld by Request <nobody(a)replay.com> Subject: ANNOUNCE: Mixmaster 2.0.4 beta available This is to announce the release of Mixmaster 2.0.4 beta. Mixmaster is a new class of anonymous remailers. Inspired by the existing "cypherpunk" remailers and discussions on the Cypherpunk mailing list, Mixmaster is the next generation in the evolution of remailer technology. Mixmaster is available from: ftp://ftp.replay.com/pub/replay/pub/remailer/Mix-204b1.tar.gz What's new? - several bug fixes. - "middle only" remailer. - messages compression. - support for /dev/random. - rudimentary support for the list of reliable Mixmaster remailers. - new installation script. - can be compiled under DOS/Windows. Mixmaster is (C) by Lance Cottrell <loki(a)infonex.com>. This release was made by Ulf Möller <um(a)idril.shnet.org>.

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Password pirates plunder XXX sites, from The Netly News
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

[We include links to sites with porn passwords in today's story, BTW. --Declan] ******* http://cgi.pathfinder.com/netly/opinion/0,1042,1015,00.html The Netly News Network (http://netlynews.com/) June 4, 1997 Porn Free by Chris Stamper and Greg Lindsay (thenetlynews(a)pathfinder.com) Sexfilms.com used to be a small, members-only adult site that shipped full-frame videos over a super-fast T-3 line. Traffic on the site was comfortably low for about a year, owner Ray Alba says, until one name -- "Joe Camaro" -- started appearing with some frequency. Actually, it started appearing 500 times a minute. From Sweden, Japan, Hong Kong, Singapore -- just about anywhere. Somebody was passing out the password. Download speeds faltered, from 300K/sec to 6K/sec. And then the servers themselves began to crash. Finally, Alba had to shut down the site for several weeks to clear out Camaro and numerous other accounts that had leaked out to the Net. Alba was the latest victim of... Porn Piratz! A huge number of passwords to pay-only porn sites are loose on the Net. Just surf newsgroups like alt.sex.passwords or do a simple search through a typical web engine and long lists of logins are easy to find. Some of these logins are giveaways from people who ponied up the low, one-time-only flat fees that many sites charge. Others, apparently, were obtained with phony credit card numbers. Who knows how Porn Piratz get the rest. But they do: A Hustler executive told us that Hustler's sites have seven times its paid membership logging on every day. [...]

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Re: Webpage picketing?... (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 16:02:02 -0700 > Subject: Re: Webpage picketing?... > From: nobody(a)huge.cajones.com (Huge Cajones Remailer) > > You may dislike > > one of the sites linking to yours, but you really can't hijack their > > connections and force people to listen to you who don't want to. > > Wrong! It's done every day in every media from newspapers to TV > and points in between, including the InterNet. > I have a lot of respect for Peter's work, opinions and for his > integrity, but my perception is that he fails to understand that > the InterNet is a growing mosaic which can and should reflect > *all* of life, and that his perception of what the InterNet is > and should be somehow dictates what should and should not be > done on the InterNet. > I think that what should be done on the InterNet is exactly > what people *want* to do. It is up to their own conscience as > to whether their actions are done with integrity and up to the > rest of us to interpret and respond to those actions. Agreed. However, I see a situation happening akin to a sheeple goes into the public library and checks out a book on pro-life politics and because of excessive civil liberty protection is then required to also check out a book on pro-abortion to make shure they are informed. _______________________________________________________________________ | | | Speak the truth, but leave immediately after. | | | | Slovenian Proverb | | | | Jim Choate ravage(a)ssz.com | | The Armadillo Group www.ssz.com | | Austin, Texas, USA 512-451-7087 | |_______________________________________________________________________|

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Re: Webpage picketing (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, Forwarded message: > From: "William H. Geiger III" <whgiii(a)amaranth.com> > Date: Wed, 04 Jun 97 10:00:46 -0500 > Subject: Re: Webpage picketing (fwd) > I think that your analogy is slightly flawed. > > While the farmers have a right to protest on the side of the road they do > not have a right to interfere with the travelers on the road. Correct and using my model would in no way interfere with a users use of the network. It would not add excessive delay or other impedemants. It would be a one time event that occured when the site was initialy accessed. Much like having to go past the picketers on the side of the road at least once. > There is no real way you could picket on the "Info highway" as you have no > right to interfere with the packets traveling on the highway. You can > stand of to the side if you want but somehow I don't think that the > packets will be watching. :) If it is a fully privately funded highway, I agree. If it accepts public money I obviously disagree with you. As to the packets watching, no more so than the cars being used are watching the picketers. This is a straw man argument. The issue here is not the packets but the paticipants. _______________________________________________________________________ | | | Speak the truth, but leave immediately after. | | | | Slovenian Proverb | | | | Jim Choate ravage(a)ssz.com | | The Armadillo Group www.ssz.com | | Austin, Texas, USA 512-451-7087 | |_______________________________________________________________________|

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Re: Remailer latencies (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Subject: Re: Remailer latencies (fwd) > Date: Sat, 27 Sep 97 10:17:52 -0400 > From: "Brian B. Riley" <brianbr(a)together.net> > I am incline to think that as the traffic goes up the need to > generate 'n' mails for each 'real' inbound/outbound goes down. In effect as you get more popular your traffic becomes easier to track. I don't think I would use a remailer that advertised this 'feature'. Traffic analysis is something that is easily automated so the measure of success (to my mind anyway) is what sort of resources would a mallet need to get a solution versus the time frame that solution might we relevant. Admittedly this is a very sloppy area of remailers, I am not aware of any analysis with anon. remailers in mind. If anyone does know of a source please cough it up... ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The financial policy of the welfare state requires that there | | be no way for the owners of wealth to protect themselves. | | | | -Alan Greenspan- | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http:// www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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cypherpunks-e@htp.org list explodes! (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 12:27:04 -0700 > From: Bill Stewart <stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com> > Subject: cypherpunks-e(a)htp.org list explodes! > Well, I tried subscribing to cypherpunks-e(a)htp.org, the English-language > relative of cypherpunks-j. There may have been one or two independent > postings, > but almost everything there was just the main cypherpunks list, forwarded > and with archiving numbers stuck in the Subject: line. > That wasn't a very good idea; people who want to subscribe to cypherpunks > should do so directly, but if you do want to build a fourth list address > for cypherpunks, you can check with Igor Chudov and Lance Cottrell about > the software > that makes it work without looping. First, it was meant as another member of the cpunks distributed list. Second, I provided them with the necessary anti-loop information. Third, they were out because SSZ was out. It's a real pitty the other list operators don't put more effort into ensuring cross connections since the anti-loop process does seem to work. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The financial policy of the welfare state requires that there | | be no way for the owners of wealth to protect themselves. | | | | -Alan Greenspan- | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http:// www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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Re: write up AP for FC++
by Blanc 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

More than a month later, James A. Donald responded: >I see no point in explaining our ideas so thoroughly and repeatedly >that even cops and politicians start to understand them. ......................................................... I dont' think where you publish your idea makes as much difference as in how you present it, based on what attitude and inclinations you reveal about your motives for the future. If you are having an abstract discussion which explores the ramifications of what a new technology makes possible - not only for the good, but for the bad - it is surely distinguishable from a discussion on who exactly you dislike and how precisely you are going to hurt them badly with your new, advanced weapon-tools. One type of discussion could reveal your perspective and the scope of your ability to follow ideas to their logical conclusions. A different discussion, conversely, could reveal your psychological problems and the malfunctioning of a disturbed imagination. Anyone who studies ideas seriously will want to explain their discoveries to colleagues; it's almost a given that this is so. I wasn't suggesting to Tim that he reiterate himself to clueless public authorities for the purpose of elevating their understanding (although it is a fact that Tim very often has explained, again and again, the same ideas which he has posted in the past, until lately he has arrived at the point of merely referencing himself and his previous contributions to the list.). I was making reference to the mistake certain people are making, as he mentioned, of attributing to Jim Bell the origin of the AP ideas, when Tim's own extensive exploration of this subject preceded Jim's epiphanies by years. I was encouraging Tim that presenting his ideas to a physical gathering of people who are of the mind to consider the impact of these possibilities upon their business enterprises, would contribute to clarifying the situation (to some degree - I can't say how or what kind of effect it would actually have, obviously). But anyway, James, don't you think it is better to live in an atmosphere of people who have a clue, rather than otherwise, regardless of their position in this contradictory world? .. Blanc

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Re: Remailers and ecash
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Steve Schear wrote: >>Digicash has software for Unix platforms which one could very easily >>call from a Perl script. Sure, it wouldn't be pretty, it wouldn't >>be ideal, but it would work and should be easy to incorporate into >>many of the remailers. (I think.) > >True, but then the remailer's income would be available to LE, since >payee anonymity isn't supported by DC. Accountless operation is by >far a better alternative for some business. Agreed. But this is a feature to be added later, not one to stop us from using ecash now. I would also note that LE is not the only group of people that might be interested. Aside from various spook agencies (which are not law enforcement agencies), there are all sorts of other scary people in the world who should be kept out of one's financial affairs. Monty Cantsin Editor in Chief Smile Magazine http://www.neoism.org/squares/smile_index.html http://www.neoism.org/squares/cantsin_10.html -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBNC6H/5aWtjSmRH/5AQGnowf7B1zSIQjn7VEibh4TRqZGqSR16KFogAFw xOKfkhFWiA1Uvwc0QgWaRzlZ0qCUxnCaxzLYLqwhNqwoLtPeuNlZ1qPO2NnQkYlr vjKIb6JSbmqLbROUQg9OOgJG8LbKKKB7sL8S7hp8qT2g2eP84H2JIUfuZtyl4Yg8 dnDmIQo+yn87T81wF3e1H2uQwwmjPvpJQlKWPzHuhARtluoStRUhiXEBqsAxUawU COYO9/oRbHok7ta1yOw9f40GXuUIo809S99ENflA396F76xYbSbd25cH9vmzUcoW z1W9JxeFtaAF90aMxyartpKolkLvTc2fDJ//E/H8N7KAGrkqVrIXCQ== =Qiuq -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: write up AP for FC++
by James A. Donald 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 06:49 PM 9/27/97 -0700, James A. Donald wrote: > > If you publish your idea in appropriate forums, you can get away with it. > > > > If you go from forum to forum singing your idea like a broken record, > > and flogging it like soap, you will probably go to jail. > > > > I see no point in explaining our ideas so thoroughly and repeatedly > > that even cops and politicians start to understand them. At 09:04 PM 9/27/97 -0500, Black Unicorn wrote: > Try to keep in mind that Bell went to jail for crimes only semi-related to > his AP ranting. Not too many people face a lengthy period of imprisonment without trial, followed by a lengthy period of imprisonment without sentence, for using a false social security number and possession of a stink bomb. Actually Jim Bell's greatest offence was being broke. I have seen some truly laughable convictions of people with public defenders. He who pays the piper calls the tune. If you are charged with politically incorrect crimes, and have a public defender, you have two prosecutors and no defender, and under those circumstances a prosecutor could convict a dog of being a ham sandwich, and have him sentenced to death by drowning in mustard. --------------------------------------------------------------------- | We have the right to defend ourselves | http://www.jim.com/jamesd/ and our property, because of the kind | of animals that we are. True law | James A. Donald derives from this right, not from the | arbitrary power of the state. | jamesd(a)echeque.com

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Re: FCPUNX:CDT complains to my editors after post to cypherpunks
by James A. Donald 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 09:34 AM 9/26/97 -0700, Tim May wrote: > The larger issue is that the CDT/VTW "players" are showing their > willingness to trade away the civil liberties of us all for a few minor > tidbits thrown (they think) to corporate sponsors. In fact, the problem is not corporate sponsors. Rather the problem is that lobbying groups often tend to get captured by the government. They want to get their fingerprints on legislation, so that they can extort money from their corporate sponsors, and are therefore eager to do the politicians bidding in any way whatever in order that they can get their fingerprints on any legislation whatever. This problem is unrelated to civil liberties issues. Lobby groups for the milk industry, small business, etc, are infamous for selling out the interests of the businesses that support them. I am not saying that the CDT is guilty of this, but the fact it persists in trying to get legislation passed under present circumstances should not only alarm civil libertarians, it should also alarm big business. > Those who work near Washington tend to get pulled into this power vortex. > They become functionaries, advisors, consultants, lobbyists, or even, > sometimes, elected politicians themselves. > > This is probably why EFF belatedly realized that their soul was being lost > and got the hell out. That so few news magazines delved into this is > telling.] My congratulations to EFF, who I have vigorously flamed in the past. I hope that one day I will be able to similarly congratulate the CDT. --------------------------------------------------------------------- | We have the right to defend ourselves | http://www.jim.com/jamesd/ and our property, because of the kind | of animals that we are. True law | James A. Donald derives from this right, not from the | arbitrary power of the state. | jamesd(a)echeque.com

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