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Dr. Netscape / Re: More about Netscape Bug finder
by nobody＠huge.cajones.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Lynne L. Harrison wrote: > This reminded me to ask if anyone knows if, per their statement, Netscape > intends to u/l a patch for the 3.x versions. When I checked yesterday, I > didn't see any reference to it. Why would you expect Netscape to make reference to the fact that use of their browser leaves you open to violation of your privacy and security? Corporations are not expected to show concern about keeping their customers well-informed in regard to problems that arise with their product--they are expected to pretend, as much as possible, that problems don't exist (even if it may result in disastrous consequences for the customers who foolishly trust the company to act with integrity and professionalism). Netscape software is my browser of choice. I like the product, I like the company, and I like what I know of the people involved in the company. Despite these facts, however, I recognize that reality is merely a shallow reflection of classic Hollywood movies, and "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" is currently playing at the Netscape cinema complex. You may have already seen this movie, at your own corporate cinema, so you know how the plot goes... You wake up one morning and realize that behind the glazed eyes of your formerly human co-workers, lurks the alien energy of a communal corporate soul. The company spokesperson (who has two cute kids and a dog that are always a hit at the company picnic) has turned into an alien life-form which is telling the press and public that the chemical spill near the high-school has nothing to do with the hands that are now growing out of the students' foreheads. The company president (who risked his job to support a decent employee health-plan against the investor's wishes) begins to speak about a "ten year study" to determine why 20% of the company employees develop a rare form of cancer every year. Your best friend at the company changes the subject when you mention the growing number of the company's customers who seem to have an extra ear growing on their forearm. You can tell that your best friend is looking into your eyes and trying to discern if you are one of "them." A twenty-dollar street hooker will sometimes have time to join you for coffee and a burger at the conclusion of a business transaction, but a high-priced call-girl invariably recognizes the danger of true personal contact adversely affecting future cash flow. For the same reason, the corporate legal team would rather discuss the responsibility for your failing health in a sterile boardroom, than during dinner at your house with the whole family present. It is probably in Netscape's best short-term financial interest to downplay the full implications of the "bug" in their software, as well as avoiding revealing the true reasons for this "bug" existing in the first place. However, I would much rather visit their website and see a big, red "Warning!!!" sign flashing at the top, with a pointer to full information about the nature and effect of the "bug," as well as disclosure of facts that would allow me to judge what level of trust I should use in the future in regard to the company and their products. After all, in terms of security, we can consider ourself to be "sleeping" with those whose software we use. If it appears that they are avoiding being fully honest about whether or not they are practicing "safe software" in the best interests of both themself and their "Johns," then perhaps we should think about changing our "sleeping" habits. The bottom line is that it does not reflect well on Netscape to have their customers and/or software users checking with the members of mailing lists (and the checkout clerk at the local QuickMart) to find out if there is any chance that they may be able to use Netscape's product safely in the future. I did a quick review of the Netscape documentation and found it gives no indication that users should inquire at the local QuickMart for information about problems and bug fixes for their products. TruthMonger ~.~.~.~.~.~ DISCLAIMER: I am not your hooker; you are not my John. Accordingly, the above is *NOT* illegal advice.

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17 Dec '03

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Re: White House admits censoring Chinese dissident
by Phillip M. Hallam-Baker 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> The Clinton administration was in the middle of a firestorm yesterday >after officials admitted blocking a global broadcast of a Wei Jingsheng >interview for fear of annoying China. > Officials tried in vain to stop the government radio station, Voice of >America (VOA), from broadcasting the interview, but succeeded in blocking >it from Worldnet. Both are propaganda arms of the US government. For better or worse the idea is to allow the US President to promote his political agenda across the world. If the US president decides not to allow a person access to his propaganda machine thats not censorship, its an editorial decision. There is a great new history of both agencies called 'Warriors of disinformation' written by Wick's second in command. I am not opposed in principle to governments having a propaganda agency but VoA and Worldnet should be shut down completely. Unlike the BBC they have entirely failed to gain credibility, the propaganda they broadcast is as obvious and transparent as radio Moscow, and about as interesting. To appreciate the subtlty of World service propaganda you have to listen very hard. For example during a refuge crisis there is a long piece about the ex-pat Kurd communities in Australia and Toronto. The propaganda objective being to make refugees make those places their destinations of choice. CNN has made VoA entirely obsolete. The best thing the US could do would be to give them the VoA shortwave transmitters and retire. The only place where Worldnet has had a measurable impact is in the West generally and the US in particular. Worldnet spin allowed the Russian shooting down of KAL 007 over Russian Airspace to be presented as an act of unconsionable perfidy while the Vincent's shooting down of an Iranian civilian airplane in international airspace was presented as 'an unfortunate accident'. The piece de resistance of US propaganda efforts is TV Marti which costs the US millions of dollars each year to broadcast from a blimp moored in Florida. It costs Castro a few thousand dollars to jam it using cheap transmitters. Television is much easier to jam than radio, both because of the frequencies used and the need for a clear timing signal. Ironically the Cubans have said that they are quite happy to have US TV, they just can't resist an opportunity for a cheap propaganda victory of their own. The idea that Cubans can keep the Imperialist Americans at bay by being smarter is the big idea keeping Castro in power. ABC, NBC and CNN signals are quite wellcome. There is good reason to believe them since in Dresden the East German authorities errected a relay station to broadcast west german TV. They were finding it difficult to persuade people to work in Dresden which is out of range of the West German TV signal. The best propaganda a democratic government can create is that outside its control. Political change in South Africa came partly as a result of US TV shows which showed Blacks in positions of authority. The Web will effect political change through person to person interactions, on USEnet, IRC and mailing lists. I don't think it is a good idea for a democratic government to spend money propagandising to its own people. I don't think that the US has the subtlety to propagandise effectively to others. Ergo it should get out of the propaganda business entirely. Phill

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Political Prisoner of Intel
by Mike Duvos 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

http://www.rahul.net/jeffrey/ovs -- Mike Duvos $ PGP 2.6 Public Key available $ enoch(a)zipcon.com $ via Finger $

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Re: Hettinga's e$yllogism
by Secret Squirrel 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>1. Government has copy of keys >2. Government misuses keys. > >Simple enough for you? Too simple. Escrow for ecash isn't to allow forging cash, or stealing it. It allows tracing it. If you tell financial experts that making ecash traceable under court order is goint to make electronic commerce impossible, they'll laugh. They already use systems which are even less private than that. Anon

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CNN - Encryption bill expected to pass House - June 23, 1997
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

http://www.cnn.com/TECH/9706/23/encryption.reut/index.html Encryption bill expected to pass House June 23, 1997 Web posted at: 10:05 p.m. EDT (0205 GMT) WASHINGTON (Reuter) -- Legislation to relax U.S. export limits on computer-encoding technology is likely to move ahead in the House of Representatives this week, despite a severe setback in the Senate last week. The House International Relations' economic policy and trade subcommittee will vote on a bill Tuesday, chairwoman Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, Republican of Florida, said. Current U.S. law strictly limits export of encryption software, which scrambles information and renders it unreadable without a password or software "key." Once the realm of spies and generals, encryption has become a critical technology to safeguard electronic commerce and global communications over the Internet. In the Senate last week, a similar bill to relax encryption-export controls was torpedoed when the Senate Commerce Committee approved a substitute which would only modestly ease export restrictions. It effectively would allow the government to crack encrypted messages in the United States by gaining access to the software keys. The Clinton administration has been a strong proponent of so-called key-recovery mechanisms, arguing that the proliferation of strong encryption without key recovery would hamper law-enforcement and national security agencies' ability to keep tabs on criminals and terrorists. The House bill under consideration relaxes export rules without requiring key recovery. With 125 co-sponsors in the House, and "enthusiastic support" from industry and civil liberties and privacy advocates, the bill "is expected to be passed with limited changes," Ros-Lehtinen added. The bill could face a tougher challenge when considered by the full International Relations Committee. Chairman Benjamin Gilman, Republican of New York, is not a strong supporter of export liberalization, congressional staffers said. U.S. software companies such as Netscape Communications, and Microsoft Corp. have been clamoring for relief from encryption export controls. Copyright 1997 Reuters Limited. All rights reserved.

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Re: ANNOUNCE: New Remailer - palnu@juno.com
by TruthMonger 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Andy Dustman wrote: > > I've been pinging palnu for a day now, no response yet. Try looking at some dirty pictures while you do it... IPingMyOwnPalnuTooMonger

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by TruthMailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: spook pressure on crypto exports (was Re: cypherpunks coding challenge)
by pgut001＠cs.auckland.ac.nz 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Death rays from Mars made Adam Back <aba(a)dcs.ex.ac.uk> write: >Bill Stewart <stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com> writes: >>(Though actually SSLeay has been very useful to a lot of the >>world's free cryptography, and has prompted the US spooks >>to pressure the Australian spooks into restricting crypto exports, >>just as they've pressured the NZs into restricting them for >>Peter Gutman, and have been trying to work on the Irish...) >Could you elaborate on these. I caught Peter Gutmann's comments on the >hassles a company he did some work for were having with the NZ spooks. (The >spooks intercepted their mailed disk, plus some other cloak and dagger >spookish stuff). Nothing was intercepted. They (the GCSB, NZ subsidiary of the NSA) came up with some phony story about NZ customs intercepting a shipment of military-grade encryption (or something similar) which they fed to the Australian spooks (DSD). NZ Customs knew nothing of this, and the DSD were apparently also considerably surprised by it. As far as I can tell it was a very amateurish attempt to intimidate one of the companies involved (frighteningly amateurish in fact - a single phonecall was enough to confirm that they'd invented the whole incident themselves, the only real effect it had was to get them a front-page story in the National Business Review and (presumably) piss off the DSD for sending them on a wild goose chase and risking media exposure). >Is this still going on, was it ever resolved? Can the next version of >cryptlib be exported legally? Or are we relying on Peters bravery? It can be legally exported. Although the people pulling the strings are the GCSB, the group enforcing it is the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade (MFAT)'s export control group, who are idiots (I can elaborate on this in great detail at some point, preferably over a beer). I have several written statements from them that I can freely export it electronically (along with all sorts of bogosities such as a letter signed by the minister in which the first sentence of the second paragraph says exactly the opposite of the last sentence in the paragraph, and other, similar gems). At one point I was firing off one letter after another to them just to see how silly they would get, but it got boring after awhile. I'll put these letters online at some point for people to have a laugh at. I should also clarify a point about the online writeup of my experiences, which imply that the NSA was active in directing the GCSB over export controls. I'd had some feedback from a high-level US spook source that this wasn't quite the case, but the source has some rather unusual opinions on spooks and their activities (something along the lines of "Civilization would collapse tomorrow if it wasn't for the fine efforts of the CIA and NSA") which made me somewhat suspicious about the accuracy of the information. Anyway, what this source said (and this bit I can believe) was that NZ was completely out of its depth with this (which was obvious from the way it was handled) and was terrified of offending the US. According to the source, the NSA was exerting a *moderating* influence on the whole thing, and that any progress made was because the NSA told the GCSB to back off. This would indicate an interesting case of the NSA exerting very strong indirect influence on determining crypto policy. The GCSB knew the NSA didn't want crypto being distributed, and when they heard of the export they went into overdrive to show the NSA what good boys they could be and how keen they were to help the US by enforcing US policy for NZ crypto. This interpretation is believable, NZ is very much a junior member of the UKUSA alliance and really doesn't want to do anything which might offend the other partners. They knew the US didn't want crypto being made available, so they went out of their way to try to show the NSA that they could be trusted to do their bit in restricting crypto (I'm certain that something as amateurish as the NZ Customs story didn't come from the NSA, even the DSD seemed unaware of it). This means that it doesn't actually require any direct intervention from the USG to control crypto policy, the mere knowledge that the NSA doesn't like something is enough to make the local spooks (who, in NZ's case, rely on the NSA for much of their hardware and training) do whatever they think will keep the NSA happy. It's perfect for the NSA I guess, because they get complete deniability (Just yell "Will noone rid me of this troublesome crypto" and sit back and wait). Peter. BTW, what's happened to taz.nceye.net? The cypherpunks mail->news doesn't seem to have been updated for more than a week.

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IP: ISPI Clips 6.39: Fed May Give FBI Access to Your Internet Voice Calls & Email.
by Vladimir Z. Nuri 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: "Ama-gi ISPI" <Offshore(a)email.msn.com> Subject: IP: ISPI Clips 6.39: Fed May Give FBI Access to Your Internet Voice Calls & Email. Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 00:51:34 -0800 To: <Undisclosed.Recipients(a)majordomo.pobox.com> ISPI Clips 6.39: Fed May Give FBI Access to Your Internet Voice Calls & Email. News & Info from the Institute for the Study of Privacy Issues (ISPI) Friday November 13, 1998 ISPI4Privacy(a)ama-gi.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This From: CNET news, November 12, 1998 http://www.news.com Fed mulls wiretap access to Net http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,28695,00.html By John Borland, jborland(a)cnet.com Staff Writer, CNET News.com Federal regulators are struggling over a decision that could give the FBI and other law enforcement officials wiretap access to Internet voice calls, and possibly access even to the content of data messages such as email. The Federal Communications Commission [ http://www.fcc.gov/ ] released a proposal http://www.fcc.gov/Bureaus/Common_Carrier/Notices/1998/fcc98282.txt ] last week for implementing the 1994 Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act (CALEA), a measure that requires telephone companies to provide law enforcement with access to digital call information. But the report left untouched the issue of whether the FBI http://www.fbi.gov/ ] would get new powers to tap Net calls. An FCC staffer, who asked to remain anonymous, said the question of how Net calls will be treated remains wide open, and may be decided during another round of public comments. Congress passed CALEA in 1994, after law enforcement officials complained that digital technology undermined their ability to tap telephone lines. The bill was intended to give the FBI and other police agencies the same access to digital communications, that they already have to traditional phone lines. Yet the technological landscape has changed since Congress' action. Voice transmissions using Internet technologies have moved from hobbyists' basements and into the corporate mainstream. Companies like Qwest are building whole business strategies around Net-based telephony, while the amount of data traffic on public networks has soared. The FBI wants access to these Net calls, and the leading industry proposal being reviewed by the FCC allows this. But civil liberties groups warn that this access goes beyond the original law's bounds, which don't apply well to Internet communications. "Congress said very explicitly that the CALEA law was not intended to apply to Internet communications," said Barry Steinhardt, president of the Electronic Frontier Foundation. "Over the long term this is the ability to get packet-switched data, not just voice information." The sticking point lies in the way that law enforcement gets its power to tap lines, and in the way that permission fails to translate into the world of the Internet. Many people associate a wiretap with a listening post able to overhear the entire content of a call. This type of tap requires a law enforcement agency to meet a fairly high standard of evidence, to show it needs access to a certain phone line. But the vast majority of wiretaps fall into a category known as "tap and trace," in which phone companies give up information about a call's origin and destination without giving officials access to the actual call. This type of access is much easier for law enforcement officials to obtain, as they don't require evidence as strong as what is needed for standard wiretaps. The "tap-and-trace" system doesn't carry over well to Net calls, which are broken down and transmitted in individual packets of information. Telephone company officials say it is impossible, at today's level of technology, for telephone carriers to hand over the header information in these packets--which would identify the call's origin and destination--without also handing over the actual content of the call itself. "For us it's impossible to do just the one thing," said Grant Seiffert, vice president of governmental relations for the Telecommunications Industry Association [ http://www.tiaonline.org/ ]. "Once you've opened the can of worms, the whole can stays open." The EFF, along with the Center for Democracy and Technology (CDT), the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), and the Electronic Privacy Information Center(EPIC), have lobbied the FCC hard to keep Net calls out of the wiretapping law for this reason. "The FBI is saying, 'Trust us, give us the whole message and we'll strip out the call content,'" Steinhardt said. "We just don't trust them." For its part, the FBI says it needs access to the Net calls, or criminals will be able to hide in the telecommunications loophole. Officials have repeatedly said they will not violate court orders to look at the content of calls or data messages The argument doesn't sway civil liberties groups. "If it's not feasible, the telcos shouldn't have to hand the information over," Steinhardt said. "[The FBI] shouldn't be given access to information they're not entitled to." Comments on the issue of tapping Net calls, as well as the rest of the FCC's digital wiretapping plan, are due December 14. Telephone companies are not required to comply with the CALEA provisions until June 30, 2000. 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