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Fear & Gloating in Tennessee
by TruthMonger 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>From CNN(AP): Web posted at: 10:47 a.m. EST (1547 GMT) FRANKLIN, Tennessee (AP) -- Three books by photographers Jock Sturges and David Hamilton have received some critical praise, but a Tennessee county grand jury claims they may violate state obscenity laws. "The Age of Innocence" by Hamilton and "The Last Day of Summer" and "Radiant Identities" by Sturges were cited in the indictment against Barnes & Noble's Brentwood store. The obscenity charges focus on photographs of nude children in the books. I certainly hope that the prosecutor, judge and jury didn't look at those pictures. Probably turn them all into pedophiles, eh? Barnes & Noble was served with a summons to appear in Williamson County Criminal Court on December 1. Jerome Melson, an attorney for the Tennessee Press Association, said interpretations of what is obscene vary widely and he believes the grand jury is not looking to put anyone in jail. "They're probably just looking for a fine... to get the bookstore to change its manner," he said. "In other words, change your shelves." Oh! Voluntary/Mandatory under threat of imprisonment... Is it time for some new NewSpeak? Volundated -- Voluntary/Mandated Volundatory -- Voluntary/Mandatory Volutelse -- Voluntary/Or else! Copyright 1997 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. Sure it can. I just did it... TruthMonger

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Re: The Illusion of Freedom
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Nerthus wrote: >Monty Cantsin wrote: >>However, most people who engage in war are not in any sense free and >>the single most apparent feature of life in a military organization is >>the elimination of freedom and privacy. >> >>It is most often the case that in order to wage war, one must first >>become enslaved. > >Those who wage war are rarely the slaves. Those who die usually are. >The "cannon fodder" you mentioned. "Okay soldier, let's see that pass!" Is this the treatment accorded to a free man? Monty Cantsin Editor in Chief Smile Magazine http://www.neoism.org/squares/smile_index.html http://www.neoism.org/squares/cantsin_10.htm -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBNHoUf5aWtjSmRH/5AQEp5wf+Msxpn/u0SRIxwAWsbTstxm2EK4PzUAg/ zZrPovQ/uhHjG0Wed3tAuaI2mK4EtTNoNEFhXkdbgDDGmsJj2eXeFVr7c0fMjHFt OSDJYuaHc26XYgiC6CqjBnn1viaoPXH873Fgo34v57tHOMqUMGWnKxLgr6DiGroz aZLVEsXJ0UN2C4Z2MuB2FB34MKgsg4TwwBlx33r5544vpHaURtnhedOBAurxpWE9 24WQs2NRh+ogvMk8XCg9stGwMSqR1cxfEkD4ogCWVdh5snvl8QYD3cw3j0fkiWsb YNJ6oqn9095/jBuJxXImd2Yc8a3fVeLlto8B2T/kVzcsfNVgOXdAGA== =tY4g -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Open Letter from ClickZ Publisher
by lcs Mixmaster Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

gburnore+spam(a)netcom.com (Gary L. Burnore) wrote: > : gburnore+spam(a)netcom.com (Gary L. Burnore) wrote: > : > > : >Oh no, couldn't have been anyone from this group, right? BULLSHIT. > : > : Unless it was you, criminal. > > So a being arrested (a ticket actually) is being a criminal to you, eh? Good ol' Gary "Shoot from the Lip" Burnore ... gotta love 'im, right? I gotta hand it to you, Burnore, you have a knack for snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. The "criminal" comment was obviously intended as a joke, and the poster even apologized for it, but you just couldn't leave it alone, could you? You had to go bragging about your "martyrdom" in San Francisco, didn't you? For further info on Gary's arrest, visit: http://www.e-media.com/cm/sac.html First off, it eventually became "a ticket actually" because it was plea bargained down to that. That's one of the advantages of committing a "politically correct" offense in a city like Frisco. The San Francisco Police Department presumably doesn't take people into custody and impound their vehicles for mere traffic tickets. But it does prove that you're willing to break the law to prove a point. Remember how you bragged about calling a spammer at home at 2 AM to harass him? When you say: "Oh no, couldn't have been anyone from this group, right? BULLSHIT." you're absolutely correct. It could have been you! I have no doubt that someone who'd dig up an ancient tax lien and post it to Usenet in an attempt to embarass and silence a critic could well have done what's mentioned here. --

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Re: NBC Mugs Jim Bell
by John Kelsey 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- [ To: cypherpunks ## Date: 11/21/97 ## Subject: Re: NBC Mugs Jim Bell ] >Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 19:34:33 -0500 >From: John Young <jya(a)pipeline.com> >Subject: NBC Mugs Jim Bell >An NBC News story this evening on the threat of CB terrorism >full-screened a closeup of Jim Bell's mug shot, the same as >the lead photo in US News last week. The story presented >much the same line and Internet sources of frightening >information but did not balance it with a sidebar on >burgeoning anti-terrorist opportunism as did US News. I guess the good news is, we've finally figured out why they've been holding him so long before sentencing--to make sure he doesn't miss any of his scheduled media events. Or perhaps, given the nature of the coverage, to make sure he *does* miss them all. We need a good posterboy for one of the Four Horsemen, to ensure the passage of next year's Guaranteeing Freedom through Imposition of a Benevolent Police State Act of 1999, and the following year's appointment of first lady Tipper Gore as Internet Czar. --John Kelsey, Counterpane Systems, kelsey(a)counterpane.com PGP 2.6 fingerprint = 4FE2 F421 100F BB0A 03D1 FE06 A435 7E36 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBNHYfO0Hx57Ag8goBAQFQgAQA6blKyFsP+k79lTdq5NWJXV5HQGk6l2LR cl4xQGZuYsDcZNOlWnAVsxvS7dVN+lU6wAgYJkUhsuNvOSFnC9Op32scmrPg8pQ+ XTS5EsdaGMi1o+AefVnnoOvcLZxOoprkk1bIk6/gbD9fjGvS8zapgtvL22oXmQJt a2C0GvDa2/w= =Vmm6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --John Kelsey, Counterpane Systems, kelsey(a)counterpane.com PGP 2.6 fingerprint = 4FE2 F421 100F BB0A 03D1 FE06 A435 7E36

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Re: Iraq and computers
by Brandon Crosby 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Monkey Catskin wrote: > > Michael Wilson wrote that Reuters wrote: > > >Quoting U.S. officials and U.N. diplomats, the newspaper said that > > >Iraqi scientists and defense officials are using Western-made > > >computers to transfer data from bulky papers to small disks that can > > >be easily dispersed, making the information difficult for inspectors > > >to track. > > This is an interesting development because it also makes it hard for > > the Iraqi government to track what is going on, too. The government > > of Iraq has been aware of the dangers of computers for many years. At > > one time they were tightly controlled. Even typewriters were > > controlled. The government had writing samples of each one. > > Now, apparently, this policy is loosening. This suggests that U.S. > > policy of the last 8 years has managed to achieve what Saddam Hussein > > could not - it has made the Hussein regime a genuinely popular > > government. I wonder... does Iraq have a web site? While third world contries seldom have computer specialists, it seemed pretty easy for Iraq to get biological weapon specialists working for them. [Other more sensible arguments exist...] Iraq has more money than they can reasonably spend, but management troubles. Solution: IntraIraq, the network with Sadam ads. While burning papers has some flare to it, it's pretty likely that most of the classified data not in Sadam's head must be in some computer system[s], easily housed by the UN no-no sites for inspectors. Also, can Iraq's people create [and display] web pages? -Brandon Crosby

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Re: mail2news at mit hasn't worked in a week...
by lcs Mixmaster Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

lcs Remailer Administrator <Use-Author-Address-Header(a)[127.1]> wrote: > > Is anyone else noticing that the m2n at anon.lcs.mit.edu hasn't > > worked in the past week? It used to be extremely fast and > > reliable... now m2n posts to alt.test just don't make it at > > all...even when posting directly (with telnet). > > As far as I know things are working well. If you can read this > message, then the problem is probably with the way you are trying to > post (possibly a remailer you are using went bad). If you can't read > this message, then your ISP may have started blocking messages through > this news server. Do you have any idea which ISPs may be doing that? What's their rationale? This is the first I'd heard of such a practice. Are they blocking all posts from all mail2news gateways or just yours? To all NGs, or just to alt.test? Also, there seems to be one censorious nutcase out there who seems to think he's on a mission from God to "despam" alt.test! I don't know who the heck thinks a *TEST* NG needs his brand of "ethnic" cleansing, but just look at all the cancel messages in the "control" NG for posts to alt.test. --

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Re: Microsoft's compelled speech, compelled marketing
by Jim Ray 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- At 07:15 PM 11/25/97 -0800, Christian Goetze wrote: >At 09:04 PM 11/25/97 -0500, Glenn Hauman wrote: ... >>Hold it-- are you suggesting that the DOJ is being restrained in going >>after Microsoft? By who? >I suppose that the slant was more like this: either Microsoft pays up and >gets a restrained treatment from the DOJ or else... Well, Gates has given bucks to the gungrabbing campaign, one of the issues Slick has not waffled on... JMR [I'm not on c-punks, please cc any replies to me.] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Freedom isn't Freeh. iQEPAwUBNHvS1TUhsGSn1j2pAQHFMAfQr1IEMqUVlWnzljI+GQIjm0QSLVGQiM+x JK/X0PZuqGxp+ilAlE/6MPoXGMBccRvKIeUdYpegZyTMUkbBv7D+aAVaXHotAYgA vravGwUYlxkKpUzP3+jWfkNT07BvaxHLD9uue7/nDa9RYXQx+FHjlRvfFzas3oC9 1Uw04XH2cfAri0laHGu3L2UxYH3dsuyZC6BLQUIOUnSYSkOZfROm/C/bPjz6w+m4 ZK+HCPnqU0mas27GJ8pfyHO//ikjaJJ5r+ruBbEIfzp1KaFTPBgzhESiypua4siN X9KYLW9PY6m17Zn9lbnqoCs9SyLF/ZATf0sob5+w7V3eHw== =tk7P -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Leviathan Dying
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 10:21:05 -0800 to: misesmail(a)colossus.net from: news(a)mises.org subject: Leviathan Dying Sender: owner-misesmail(a)colossus.net Precedence: Bulk "The Future of Liberty" is the title of a feature piece in VITAL SPEECHES OF THE DAY (November 15, 1997) by Llewellyn H. Rockwell, Jr. "The leviathan state, that monster devouring civilization in this century, is in the throes of death," says Rockwell. "This is not a wish or a prediction, but a conclusion drawn from a broad look at the trends of the last decade and a half, which, if we take the right steps, can continue on into the next century. What has happened around the world--nation states collapsing, markets outwitting planners, citizens rising up against government masters--can and is happening here at home." The speech is from the 15th anniversary conference of the Ludwig von Mises Institute. Rockwell--head of the Institute--explains that in our times, we are witnessing the development of something more radical and far reaching than mere "limitation of government"; the very idea of institutionalized and centralized state power is under fire. The primary catalysts for this trend are the end of the Cold War, the increasing global resentment of the U.S. imperium, and the rise of new information technologies. All that's left in their wake is the reality of Washington as a parasite, which is how government is increasingly regarded in the late nineties. Rockwell spells out the implications of this and foresees a future of liberty, conditioned on intellectuals being willing, in the tradition of Mises and Rothbard, to take the right steps in leading the way. VITAL SPEECHES is widely indexed. Also in this issue are speeches by Bill Clinton and Madeleine Albright. --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Philodox e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' The e$ Home Page: http://www.shipwright.com/ Ask me about FC98 in Anguilla!: <http://www.fc98.ai/>

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Freedom Forum First Amendment conference (12/16/97)
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

----------- Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 10:33:05 -0500 From: Paul McMasters <pmcmasters(a)freedomforum.org> Subject: First Amendment Conference The Freedom Forum is sponsoring a major conference on the First Amendment on December 16 in Arlington, Va. We will be releasing Donna Demac's "State of the First Amendment" report and a landmark public opinion survey on the First Amendment. In addition, there will be presentations by leading authorities on violence in the media, hate speech, pornography, flag desecration, television, the Internet, videos, the press, art, and religion. If you would like more details and directions for signing up (there is no charge), please go to my web page at: http://www.freedomforum.org/first/1997/11/20famdcon.asp Here it is in a nutshell: Who: Everyone concerned about the First Amendment What: State of the First Amendment conference Where: The Freedom Forum World Center, Arlington, Va. When: Tuesday, December 16, from 8:30 a.m. until 5:30 p.m. Why: Release of a major report, "State of the First Amendment," and a landmark national survey of public attitudes toward the First Amendment How: Just check our web site for details and directions The catch: There is none. No charge. Good food. Good conversation. First-rate speakers. Dynamite program. Contact: Paul McMasters, 703-284-3511, or: pmcmasters(a)freedomforum.org

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Quoting Portions of a Signed Document
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- It would be neat if you could quote people and prove that they signed the particular paragraph quoted without supplying the entire text. Is there a way to do this? (It seems impossible, but so does mental poker.) A crude approach would be to sign every paragraph or line separately, but that's obviously inelegant. Monty Cantsin Editor in Chief Smile Magazine http://www.neoism.org/squares/smile_index.html http://www.neoism.org/squares/cantsin_10.htm -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBNHscCpaWtjSmRH/5AQHlUAf+MgXC6uKGn+EMsOzw9wumJeYdjNWYTlnl IxaksIHa2o1HL88GZlrve7F3lATOM1IpDlZIIwe56rGZzqTQci+ImMIG3kqKWyTE 6NjtTqKY0Qr028MsudhVE+RwTvUIzbsi+6Qh4wJo+AzfEmnKlMkPHBxMmgem/+sQ Cm3PasUW91N6xakkoR/M9x6ZtJ8MlAAI1C460LIndzV2DqxnFnyNs9cCxVYaZ+FQ BMK8Mwf8EXhnSrfv6CQ3oKgi8cO1jd0FHyLr7uYQ8n0HWWMMcC06k3rYyo8EXInc WyJ/oeuSewhQjTumrPn5e3+aP55k3IzttBhE2TQy6tBX9r1nX7fVVg== =feAO -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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