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Re: Does John Gilmore eat ass?
by lucifer＠dhp.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

aga <aga(a)dhp.com> writes: > The question is, does this John Gilmore really take it > up the ass? Whether or not he is a FAGGOT is a very relevant issue > here, and it must not be overlooked. The Evil Queen of Cypherpunks swings both ways. John Gilmore also eats Dorothy Denning's (clean-shaven) pussy. He won't eat Esther Dyson's pussy because it smells so bad.

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Re: IPG Algorith Broken!
by nobody＠cypherpunks.ca 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 6:56 PM 11/23/1996, The Deviant wrote: >On Sat, 23 Nov 1996, John Anonymous MacDonald wrote: >> The good news is that you can prove a negative. For example, it has >> been proven that there is no algorithm which can tell in all cases >> whether an algorithm will stop. > >No, he was right. They can't prove that their system is unbreakable. >They _might_ be able to prove that their system hasn't been broken, and >they _might_ be able to prove that it is _unlikely_ that it will be, but >they *CAN NOT* prove that it is unbreakable. This is the nature of >cryptosystems. Please prove your assertion. If you can't prove this, and you can't find anybody else who has, why should we believe it? >> diGriz > >Use an anon. remailer and sign your posts. Brilliant. Just brilliant. Oops! diGriz

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Re: IPG Algorith Broken!
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 11:21 AM 11/24/96 -0500, Black Unicorn wrote: > >> > On Sat, 23 Nov 1996, John Anonymous MacDonald wrote: >> > > diGriz >> > >> > Use an anon. remailer and sign your posts. Brilliant. Just brilliant. > >Actually, rather clever if you're trying to estlablish reputation. Just >make sure you use the right key. Reputation is not the only reason to use a "name" with an anon remailer. Sometimes you want to post (and have a reputation) that is entirely seperable from your "real life" persona. Maybe you have a job where being involved with "The Evil Cypherpunks(tm)" could result in hastles at work (or even firing) if known. (I recieved flack from one company I worked with for posting here... Until they needed a remailer set up and someone to explain how their software worked... But that is another story.) Cypherpunks is gated to a number of Usenet News servers. (Teleport is a good example.) It is also archived in a number of search engines. (Altavista if I remember correctly, is one of them.) Someone who does not want their words to come back any byte them might just use such a method to protect themselves. --- | "Remember: You can't have BSDM without BSD." | |"The moral PGP Diffie taught Zimmermann unites all| Disclaimer: | | mankind free in one-key-steganography-privacy!" | Ignore the man | |`finger -l alano(a)teleport.com` for PGP 2.6.2 key | behind the keyboard.| | http://www.ctrl-alt-del.com/~alan/ |alan(a)ctrl-alt-del.com|

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Fukkin Elite!
by ice＠win.bright.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Photobuster to beat radar...
by Lynne L. Harrison 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com Date: Sun Nov 24 18:19:39 1996 At URL: http://www.havenofhope.org/photobuster/photob2.html Photobuster is a spin off from a specialty electronics company (Grand Systems) who saw the need for a system to foil the photo radar picture. We realize that people like your selves don't usually speed on purpose and can't afford to pay hundreds of semolies just because you look away from the speedometer from time to time. Our easily installed electronic Photobuster unit is a an electronically triggered device that mounts in the rear window with a satellite unit that mounts at the license plate. It watches the right side of the road for a photo radar setup. If you are driving at speeds in excess of the operators setting on the photo radar, it will attempt to photograph your car. When it does this the Photobuster senses the attempt and triggers a return response rendering the radar photo useless. It has an audible warning and a visual light to let you know each time you save 100 bucks. This unit only triggers if the photo radar attempts to photograph your car. NOTE: Photobuster has nothing covering your plate as is with other filter, poleroid and lenticular optical devices. We are told it is not legal in most areas, to install any kind of plastic cover over the plate, see through or not. ************************************************************ Lynne L. Harrison, Esq. | "The key to life: Poughkeepsie, New York | - Get up; lharrison(a)mhv.net | - Survive; http://www.dueprocess.com | - Go to bed." ************************************************************ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMpjYDD5A4+Z4Wnt9AQGEiwP+OwSodqT2IMQJIFxf/OPFIr7JSJJY7uWc tBfpskpydWvpcKe49PZMbflNOsTgjuW/MyRXLwu8j/mMIEKqwe7KvYPEVUIHNjx3 by3dLMglaihuObbAViewOTS2mjat2bWtB24cGwHI1/94gc8trLlXS3VTtCQYcnkl Btw1KpGDCek= =pfBU -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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[Noise] Re: Thanks/was:This is your last warning
by Black Unicorn 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Sun, 24 Nov 1996, aga wrote: > > > Not really, I had an I.Q. of 149, and a perfect 4.00 from > > > two different colleges, before I did my Doctorate in Law. > > > > 149 puts you at the low end of the scale, or used to, around here. > > > > True, they say genius only starts at 150; but I think I have > improved since then. This betrays your ignorance. I.Q. is scaled according to age. One does not "improve." > > The fact (if true) that you bothered to get a Doctorate in Law, rather > > than a Juris Doctor, tends to disprove the above however. > > > > Look dude, a Juris Doctor IS a Doctorate of Law. Incorrect. One can obtain a Doctorate in Law, (As in Dr.) but it is generally a pointless endeavor except in some civil law jurisdictions. (Liechtenstein is a good example, where many attornies have a Dr.Iur. (Dr.) while others merely have a Lic.Iur. (J.D.) ). A J.D. requires no dissertation. A Doctorate in Law does. I submit you know too little about any of these to have attained either one. > Do not confuse it with a L.L.D. which is a "Doctorate > of Legal Letters" A J.D. is the only current valid > Doctorate that you can do in plain "Law." Incorrect. A J.D. is not a true Doctorate, and even if it were, it would not be the only current valid "Doctorate" that you can "do" in "plain Law." Georgetown, as an example, offers a Doctorate in Law degree which requires a J.D., an LL.M. and three years of legal teaching experience simply to qualify for the program. A Doctor of Judicial Science program is also available with many of the same requirements. Both programs require a dissertation and a defense of same. San Marcos University is also known for an exceptional Doctor of Laws program. Incidently, LL.D.s are rare and generally useful only in European circles. As usual, you have overextended your bounds and now find yourself swimming in water over your head. > > > > > > > Go to law school. In the meantime, shut up. > > > > > > > > > > Go and eat your swiss cheese, as that is apparently all you > > > are good for. My mercenaries are too busy to go to europe > > > right now. > > > > I prefer Chedder. > > > > Be careful who you threaten. It might get you in trouble. > > > > Threatening to wipe out your location on the InterNet is > not against ANY law whatsoever, and I can mailbomb you, do > a DOS attack, fork-bomb attack and virus attack against you, > all of which are perfectly legal. Actually, they are not. Unauthorized access of a computer system is a crime. Anyone who had a "doctorate" in law would know this. I doubt your reference to mercenaries was merely a threat to my system, but keep pushing if you like. > > > Look asshole, I graduated from Law School with a Doctorate > > > in 1975. Now just go away and stop interfering with our > > > American Net. Which law school? And did you do a dissertation? What is its title? Do you practice? What state are you licensed in? > Face the real fact of life though dude. There is absolutely NO LAW > which prevents me from attacking and/or eliminating any address > outside of the USA, that is, even if there were any law which would > prevent me from doing the same thing to any non-government > computer right here, which there is not. Ok, do it. We'll see. > Your only protection on this Internet is to have a dozen different > addresses to access from. I can put a dozen computers up on > a dozen different T1's right now, if need be. I suggest a hobby which entails more physical activity. -- Forward complaints to : European Association of Envelope Manufactures Finger for Public Key Gutenbergstrasse 21;Postfach;CH-3001;Bern Vote Monarchist Switzerland

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Aga is talking to himself
by frantz＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 6:15 AM 11/24/96 -0500, aga <aga(a)dhp.com> wrote: >On Sun, 24 Nov 1996, John Anonymous MacDonald wrote: actually the message was from lucifer(a)dhp.com: >> aga <aga(a)dhp.com> writes: ... messages suppressed It looks like our juvenile "friend" is talking to himself. I am truely sorry that he feels a need to harass ladies who have actually made something of their lives. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | The lottery is a tax on | Periwinkle -- Consulting (408)356-8506 | those who can't do math. | 16345 Englewood Ave. frantz(a)netcom.com | - Who 1st said this? | Los Gatos, CA 95032, USA

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Sameer R.I.P.
by drose＠AZStarNet.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

C2 has a nice corporate-style fig leaf on its site. Sameer has decided, it seems, to get out of the anonymity business and pursue other interests. Nice run while it lasted. FYI, Sameer does mention that his recent legal brouhaha had nothing to do with this decision.

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Re: Killfiling stupid faggots
by nobody＠cypherpunks.ca 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

abostick(a)netcom.com (Alan Bostick) writes: > > In article <199611220304.VAA02832(a)manifold.algebra.com>, > ichudov(a)algebra.com (Igor Chudov @ home) wrote: > > > Dr. John Martin Grubor is the most harmless and most entertaining > > among all kooks. > > > > His posting volume is a bit high, but other than that DrG never > > got anyone in trouble. > > I dunno about "harmless". Publishing lists of "known homosexuals" > can have repercussions that outweigh their entertainment value. Yes. John Gilmore met Alan Bostick through Grubor's list. They fucked each other in the ass (how's that for entertainment!) but now John Gilmore has AIDS. P.S. Whoever said Gilmore is bi and eats pussy is a fucking liar. Gilmore is 100% queer. He hasn't touched pussy since he was born. diGriz

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Re: kickouts done the Cypherpunks way...
by ichudov＠algebra.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

killfiles work fine with me too. that was not the point. i was not really interested in the practical problem that this list just had, but rather was wondering whether it was theoretically possible to identify and exclude one untrusted person from a trusted list. igor lcs Mixmaster Remailer wrote: > > ichudov(a)algebra.com (Igor Chudov @ home) writes: > > > Hi, > > > > Suppose Mr. X, owner of foobarpunks mailing list, wants to kick out Mr. Y, > > for his obnoxious letters to the mailing list. > > > > Mr. X, however, is concerned that Mr. Y would subscribe through some > > proxy address and would continue replying to messages to foobarpunks. > > > > It is assumed that the only person out of the whole universe, Mr. Y, > > cannot be trusted. The problem is that X does not know which of the > > subscribers is Mr. Y. > > > > The question is, is there a technical way to disable Mr. Y from > > reading the list, or detect which subscription address is a proxy for Y? > > The answer is no. Plenty of sites gate mailing lists to local > newsgroups, and allow open or relatively open NNTP access. It's also > silly to assume every other person in the universe is trustworthy. > > If Mr. Y sends lots of obnoxious mail to a mailing list or news group, > the proper thing to do is to put Mr. Y in your killfile and encourage > others to do so. That way you don't get bothered by his annoying > messages, and if enough people follow suit, people stop responding to > Mr. Y's messages. This can be even be extended to cover anonymous > posts using NoCeM-like systems. > > If you try to boot Mr. Y off the mailing list using technical means, > several bad things will happen: First of all you will fail, which > will give Mr. Y a great deal of satisfaction. Second of all, you will > drive Mr. Y to start posting under different names, making him > considerably harder to killfile. Third of all, you will double the > traffic on the mailing list by starting flamewars about whether this > failed booting attempt was ethical, legal, intelligent, homosexual, > scatological, or just plain useless. Since at this point tons of > people will be replying to threads, a killfile becomes even harder to > manage. > > So don't look for convoluted technical solutions to Mr. Y's > personality problems. Just use a little basic common sense. If you > don't like the way someone behaves on a mailing list, just ignore the > damn person. Anything else is just going to make matters worse, as > recent history clearly demonstrates. > - Igor.

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