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Re: OJ`S CELL PHONE
by peter honeyman 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

a cellular phone that is turned on is in periodic contact with the local antenna. certainly the cellular provider knows what cell a mobile phone is in; that's how calls are directed. in fact, anyone can monitor the paging channel to make a primitive tracking device. (some folks on this list know much more about this ... perhaps they'll speak up.) peter

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No Subject
by smb＠research.att.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

There are a few things to watch out for. First, it's really easy for subtle (or not so subtle) biases to be present in a noise source. These can be due to component drift, external noise (i.e., power supply coupling), etc. You want a design that isn't sensitive to such things, if possible. Second -- and it's partly a corollary to the first -- the designs I've seen for real RNGs have always included a scrambler step, to mix up the bits, account for biases, etc. The first such scrambler was, I think, described by von Neuman himself. I have the citation in my office; I'll try to post it tomorrow.

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Re: Another Cellular Vict
by Duncan Frissell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com C.>No doubt this will eventually be marketed as a feature you can pay C.>extra for... intended so people can track their spouses' movements C.>so they know when they're getting home, if they're stuck in a traffic C.>jam, etc. Bell Atlantic already announced a joint venture with one of the electronic navigation companies to supply drivers with position info using cellular triangulation. DCF --- WinQwk 2.0b#1165

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OJ`S CELL PHONE
by bmorris＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com >From the L.A. Times Sunday 6/19 Fugitive Relied On And Was Undone By Cellular Phone ... Law enforcement officials subpoenaed the company ( AirTouch Cellular ) for assistance in tracking down O J Simpson. Technicians began monitoring calls made to and from the white Bronco. ... Even if an eyewitness had not spotted the vehicle, such monitoring would have made Simpson's capture inevitable. ... Technicians in the tracking station can, if necessary, track a particular call back to the cell site from which it originates. But the monitoring can not be done unless the phone is in use. [ Is that true? ] * RM 1.4 B0037 *

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L.J. Freeh and the Opposition
by Dave Otto 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Check out sunday's _Parade_ magazine for an article on Louis J. Freeh, the director of the F.B.I. "Tough on crime", "man of the streets", and ruthless eliminator of directors :-) If he ever throws his weight behind Clipper, the battle will get *MUCH* tougher. Dave Otto -- dave(a)marvin.jta.edd.ca.gov -- daveotto(a)acm.org "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!" [the Great Oz] {I *DO* have a life, it's just that my kids are using it right now!}

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Re: Crypto export legislation defeated in House Intelligence Cmte.
by jim＠bilbo.suite.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Brief update: The report is expected tomorrow. Initial > news from Intelligence Committee staffers is that the > crypto provisions of H.R. 3937 were axed with an > unbelievable 13-0 unanimous vote... > Has the official report been placed online, and if so, where? Thanks, Jim_Miller(a)suite.com

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Re: Hardware generators
by Pat Farrell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In message Sun, 19 Jun 94 10:50:14 EDT, Adam Shostack <adam(a)bwh.harvard.edu> writes: > Understood, but its not a matter of addressing 90% or the > other 10%, its a matter of "Is the security gain in building a card > that only hands out each number once worth cutting out 10% of the > market?" I think that if you are worried about rouge code on your > machine, you aren't going to run on a computer that can't protect its > memory from random browsing. (I can still access all of a PC's memory > from normal code, can't I?) Thus, building a PC card doesn't really > afford you a gain in security if I can use my hostile code to read > PGP's memory locations. If you agree with that, then there is no good > reason not to build a serial port dongle, and include me in your > potential customers. :) I think I'm a bit confused. Your first post suggested that I was ignoring an important part of the market, and I acknowledge that this was delibrate. Now you seem to be arguing that the paranoia that I addressed in my fourth question is justified. I'd like more backup for this, as all I have is speculation at this point. I don't know if it is paranoia or prudence. Yes, if you are running DOS/Windows, you can address the world. Sigh. And lots of other/better OS fix this, but they haven't got the market penetration. So I'm back to addressing lots of folks, or a few ones with real computers and real operating systems. I'd rather not degrade into that religion, I started with TOPS-10 and moved to Tenex... The problem with the serial port dongles are: 1) while parallel port dongels are known technology, making it work on a serial port is more problematical. 2) Most PC serial ports are junk. Getting reliable data rates above 2400 baud is non-trivial for low end PCs. If I could claim that the users had to have 16560AFN uarts, or better, then I could get decent rates, but then I lose market size. 3) PCs typically don't have a spare serial port. It is interesting that my mail is so far favoring an internal board approach. Given that, and the forthcomming Plug-n-Plan spec from Microsoft/Compaq/Intel/... and the hidious hassles of seting up IRQs, port addresses, etc. Does this suggest that a Plug-n-play board would be more attractive? The key is that they would be more expensive, at least at first. Compaq probably has the volume that can allow the cost difference to be offset by lower tech support costs. I haven't got that volume yet. Pat Pat Farrell Grad Student pfarrell(a)cs.gmu.edu Department of Computer Science George Mason University, Fairfax, VA Public key availble via finger #include <standard.disclaimer>

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Re: Hardware generators was: your mail
by Pat Farrell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In message Sun, 19 Jun 1994 11:24:34 -0600, Richard Johnson <Richard.Johnson(a)Colorado.EDU> writes: > > How about a SCSI device instead. Most UNIX boxes and Macs nowadays have > a few unused SCSI IDs. The great majority of DOS machines with SCSI (all > those new ones with CD-ROMs, etc.) have unused SCSI IDs. SCSI has the > advantage of being rather fast, and is a cross-platform solution. Sadly, the state of PC platform SCSI is in turmoil, at least right now. Microsoft is working hard to convince folks that Enhanced-IDE is the answer, and many CD-ROMs, big disks, etc. that are aimed at the mass market are no longer SCSI, but E-IDE. I don't think you can substantiate your claim that a "great majority of DOS machines" have SCSI. Worse, MS is pushing hard to push into Windows-for-Workgroups. Many OEMs no longer ship Windows, even for standalone PCs. They ship W4Wg. W4Wg's support for SCSI devices is a step or two down from even W4Wg 3.10. My SCSI disk setup (1.7GB Maxtor) is significantly slower under W4Wg 3.11 because MS changed things to the point that I no longer have 32-bit disk I/O. Chicago is claimed to have "better" SCSI support, but I was hoping that I could get this at least prototyped this summer. No RSN reliance on 3rd party vendors for me, thanks. Right now, SCSI is too high-end (Suns, HP, Macs, serious PCs, etc.) for the market that I have in mind. Pat Pat Farrell Grad Student pfarrell(a)cs.gmu.edu Department of Computer Science George Mason University, Fairfax, VA Public key availble via finger #include <standard.disclaimer>

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TV AS A SOURCE OF KNOWLEDGE
by Sandy Sandfort 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

C'punks, I just watched the latest episode of "Acapulco H.E.A.T." In this weeks show, "Codename: Ghost," the Bad Guy is a renegade CIA agent who has become an arms dealer on the Black Market. He controls his far flung organization via encrypted e-mail over the Internet. The H.E.A.T. team foils his dastardly plans by *intercepting* his e-mail and sending on *forged* messages signed with his own *code* (digital signature?). Too bad he wasn't a renegade NSA agent (or a Cypherpunk), then he might have had the good sense to use strong crypto. Yeah, I guess there must be dumb criminals who would use Clipper or the like. WHY I WATCH ACAPULCO H.E.A.T. Cheap thrills. Lots of babes in bikinis, lots of guns, lots of car chases and lots of explosions. (Subtract 2 points for Fabio.) I would kill for a night with the woman who plays "Cat" (Alison Something-or-other). WHY YOU SHOULD WATCH ACAPULCO H.E.A.T. We can see really good TV and movies again and again. If you miss it the first time, it will be back again, soon enough. The really bad stuff is gone in a heartbeat. See it now, or never see it again (unless it becomes a cult show). S a n d y

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Re: Decline and Fall
by dmandl＠panix.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 8:55 AM 6/19/94 -0700, Sandy Sandfort wrote: >Chomsky's error is that he equates governments with democracy. Not true. Chomsky is an anarchist. He would never make a statement like that. Just for the record... --Dave. -- Dave Mandl dmandl(a)panix.com

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