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uk police and warrents
by Steve Mynott 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The UK police are pushing for access to people's email _without_ having a warrent. THey also want the ISPs to store everyone's mail for a week.. -- pgp 1024/D9C69DF9 1997/10/14 steve mynott <steve(a)tightrope.demon.co.uk>

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[NOISE] Re: FLT 800: From the Rumor Mill...
by nobody＠replay.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

"Angelos D. Keromytis" <angelos(a)gradin.cis.upenn.edu> writes: >This has happened before; an Aegis ship in the Persian Gulf shot down >an Iranian Airlines (or whatever it's called) aircraft; i'm not sure >how many died in that incident (i think about 70 - can very well be >wrong). The US just "apologized" for the mistake AFAIK. >- -Angelos Well, not quite the same situation. IIRC, the Iranian aircraft refused to respond to challenges. The captain of the Vincennes added that to the info that the Aegis system was giving him, and decided the aircraft was a threat. Turn a key, push a button, and so long, Airbus. (There was also some discussion about whether the Airbus had military IFF gear aboard that may have led the captain to think it was a warplane, but I don't remember if anything came of it.) The Iranian Airbus was also flying out of what was essentially "hostile" airspace. Despite the massive number of "terrorists" who live here -- at least according to the popular press -- I don't think the Navy has taken the step of declaring CONUS to be a hostile territory. :-) Feel free to correct my memory if I'm wrong.

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Diffie Hellman - logs in Galois fields
by paul＠fatmans.demon.co.uk 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi all, A question for the matematicians out there: I am looking at the Diffie Hellman public key exchange protocol and am trying to find out why it is computationally hard to take logs in a finite (Galois) field. My maths tutor has told me a bit about the construction of Galois fields (If I`m correct the construction is Z mod N, N some integer, then a transformation F(x) on the residue classes already in the field) I know also the definition is that there are P**k elements, p a prime. My questions are as follows: 1. How can a field be finite, as by definition it has to be closed under addition, subtraction, multiplication and division???? (sorry if this one is a bit of a no brainer, maybe the definition is different but I can`t seem to see how) 2. Why is taking logs in a finite field computationally hard? - Me and Alec (My maths tutor at college) guessed that it is because exponentiation and logs are each others inverse functions, and somehow this becomes a one way function in a finite field. 3. Are the Galois fields used in Diffie Hellman specially constructed in any way or are they just normal GF???? Thanks for any help anyone can give me.... Datacomms Technologies web authoring and data security Paul Bradley, Paul(a)fatmans.demon.co.uk Http://www.fatmans.demon.co.uk/crypt/ "Don`t forget to mount a scratch monkey" -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.3ia mQCNAjH9j+cAAAEEAMBvREiQR0ot9dFCO0TiSCSunAYLv2g1Bc6I3bz8FzKXNH53 6mieJf/W4rD+CxJpT0q9RQaaoRtkHJLwbjfK2il3D7mEahMAyqvF/xRJNqkXfhM3 sRJM0Jh43l+W0M5vwokbEbk25/bxWWGspTsLD3YHbzKnG6pOcL5OPIRbv66xAAUR tCdQYXVsIEJyYWRsZXkgPHBhdWxAZmF0bWFucy5kZW1vbi5jby51az6JAJUDBRAy NwfvNkCBjDT0xHEBATQPA/9TORmN/UjNecj03q4anpvdyCLiez5sKuNbnYK50RiP Jj4QpWWvST3smyQ0A86DrZY/re056MXwQmARESx0rFZxdnD0oORICl5r8dJLIy3b j8rbA5olXwZwKz73/X5s13v/pvHYX4cIsbVK8NHXqh5llSKt6TBAuGgkIGF29z5k C4kAlQMFEDI3B9mdtf/umVkv7QEBcRYD/1FBteLqsUmr81euxqqnnrpLlyHb58B/ 9sdATuua4uSjX46hXDZ264YozspNrzSB4NEdrmXOWVX3fiE0ga6XkSSkIeF23V90 En37Z0BdbFzgF00FRYTFyTq8eezQrdg/+rBPUsZUmG5wpq3e12FKHQsX01i+1mB2 YmqqwCV5e95eiQCVAgUQMh8uSb5OPIRbv66xAQEqJwP/fxQyiCasjFcbDpsFfsYp put5cCC/9pOx6X3DlbKShPMpUOS+A9HsTEmJQN8Iawv1nSwPdtc2cR/GhW6ilVjW LSloGdMVLabm9pGpZZMkRaZlXFUkOv7VhfgsUiL+vIDryBCAwUZCzQiWycjt/cPi mUqFH41Z7NkyO8ZFdi5GGX0= =CMZA -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----

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Re: Gary Burnore vs. Earth (Was: Value of Annon. Remailers)
by Information Security 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> From: Missouri FreeNet Administration <sysadmin(a)mfn.org> > > Obviously, as defenders of this man's right to post material offensive > to Burnore, we too came under attack. One man's attack is another's defense. > The point here is that what little survives about this lunatic child > molester (he has even successfully had his North Carolina Sex Offender record > removed!),... Gee, why don't you ask North Carolina why, in writing? > Yes, I know, at least half of you are sitting here going "now why did they > bother us with that?". The answer is we feel VERY strongly that if not for > what [little] we were able to find as a result of A/R's, we would never have > been able to figure this clown out at all. And loco though he may be, he is > also a *prodigious* pain in the ass,... Again, ying/yang. Let us know when you have an original thought. ---guy

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CA$H REWARD !
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

~ WANTED / DEAD OR ALIVE! I will pay a CA$H REWARD for the capture of the Armed Thugs who broke into my Bienfait residence and stole a variety of computer items, including a computer, computer peripherals and personal documents. The CA$H REWARD will be also be paid if those recovering the stolen items are forced to engage in actions of self-defense, resulting in the death of the criminals. Witnesses report that the perpetrators of the crime were dressed to resemble members of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, were heavily armed, and appeared willing to violently attack anyone interfering with their criminal activity. Their audacity in perpetrating the crime in broad daylight indicates that they are professional criminals with little regard for the consequences of their actions. Suggestions that those of Native Ancestry would Shoot first, and ask questions later. should probably be ignored, since it is unlikely that common criminals harbor the same propensity for racial violence that is exhibited by legitimate members of the RCMP. Any person or persons engaging in the capture of the criminals and the recovery of the stolen property should take care to avoid violating the legal or Charter Rights of the criminals, unless said person or persons are representatives of an officially recognized law enforcement agency. For Further Information Contact: Toto <toto(a)sk.sympatico.ca>

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Cocktail Party Conversation...
by Charles Gimon 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

...of the clueful who should know better... "Ms. Denning, I'd like to introduce Ms. Dyson. Ms. Dyson, Ms. Denning." *********************************************************************** Wild new Ubik salad dressing, not | gimonca(a)skypoint.com Italian, not French, but an entirely | Minneapolis MN USA new and different taste treat that's | http://www.skypoint.com/~gimonca waking up the world! | A lean, mean meme machine. ***********************************************************************

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Re: The Earliest CP Remailer *DID* Emphasize Anonymity
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:27 AM 9/3/96, Bill Stewart wrote: >At 11:05 AM 9/2/96 -0700, Tim wrote: >>No, the focus was at _least_ as much on providing anonymity as on >>protection from eavesdroppers or traffic analysts. More so, actually. >>How do I know this? Well, I was the one who did the presentation on >>Chaumian mixes at the first meeting, describing them as remailers and using >>paper envelopes-within-envelopes to illustrate the concept. >>Later that day, in the "Crypto Anarchy Game" we played to educate the > >Thanks for the history correction; I got involved with Cypherpunks about >a year after the initial meeting/game, so I'm going on other people's >comments about the intent of mixes and remailers. Out of curiousity, >did either spam or blackmail show up during the first run of the game? A full range of interesting behaviors showed up. Usually this was publicized via the "out-of-band" channel of someone yelling "Hey, I was just told to deposit $100 credits to the account of "AnonymousBanker" or else my digital pseudonym will be published." A murder-for-hire business was started, several weapons-trading schemes developed, etc. Information selling was a big market success. (Not very surprising, given that Eric and I devised the playing cards, roles to be played (banker, assassin, money launderer, freedom fighter, whistleblower, etc.), and doled out crypto-currency (Monopoly money). The idea was not to discover real-world lessons, of course, but to graphically demonstrate some of the technology, some of the ways crypto-anonymity would change interactions, etc.) >>And all of the early uses were explicitly to anonymize the sender, not to >>deter eavesdropping (which conventional crypto works well for, anyway). > >Keeping the sender's identity hidden from the recipient is a different >problem than keeping either of them hidden from Untrusted Third Parties. >Conventional crypto is fine for keeping message content secure from >eavedroppers, but isn't enough to prevent traffic analysis; >that requires either mixes or at least message pools or broadcasts. Yes, but my point was more that we were more concerned about building a solid foundation which would solve a larger class of problems than just straight encryption would. Remailers do this. Anonymity of sender was a dominant mode in the game, for various reasons. But anonymity of receiver was also possible (we faked message pools by pinning messages to a board and then letting them be taken down, but not letting others spend time seeing which were taken down...obviously a determined person could have seen which were removed, and by whom...). Regarding traffic analysis, at least one person (George ?) set himself up as an NSA traffic analyst and tried to deduce pseudonym/true name mappings. (We gave some people roles as "NSA," "narc," and whatnot.) I no longer recall all the details of how the game evolved, interesting behaviors seen, etc. I think someone posted a summary of his reactions to the game a few weeks afterward, circa September/October 1992. It should be in any archives that cover this period. --Tim May We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, I know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Re: hackers texts
by Adamsc＠io-online.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Sun, 01 Sep 1996 08:51:36 EDT, patrick b cummings wrote: >If any of you hackers out their have wrote any texts for beginning >hackers or know of any please send them to me at patrickc(a)juno.com You know, I think his mail server has a 36 hour delay on incoming messages. Either that or he's Roadkill on the Information Superhighway // \\ // \\ ______________ // \\ | | // \\ | Information | // \\ | Superhighway | // ____ \\ | 56MB/s | // /____\ \\ |______________| // |==__==| \\ | | // ~||~~||~ \\ | | // ' \\ | | // // \\ | | // \\ | | // / / \\ | | // \\ | | // /// \\ | | // \\ | | // . ,& \\ | | // . `;//* IS HERE \\ // . `|/^\@'< ' . | \\ // `_/x@=%$P/,', <---/ \\ // >@#)*?o$%( , \\ // \.X#j~\===B \\ / \\ : The Clue truck got him... [In case you haven't noticed yet, this looks best with a non-proportional font] - "'Anonymity is bad,' says a source who wishes to remain anonymous." - Nuff' said. * Home: Chris Adams <adamsc(a)io-online.com> | http://www.io-online.com/adamsc/adamsc.htp * Autoresponder: send email w/subject of "send resume" or "send PGPKEY" * Work: cadams(a)acucobol.com | V.M. (619)515-4894 | (619)689-6579 * Member in good standing of the GNU whirled hors d'oeuvre

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Re: Silenced Machine Guns Are Safer Than TWA
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 4:33 AM 9/2/96, Skippy wrote: >Contrary to popular fiction, ALL firearms have been permanently >registered since the 1968 Gun Control Act. The media monopoly lies when >they say the contrary. Nope. Gun sales between individuals without any paperwork were fully legal in some places until recently (and may still be fully legal...I can only speak of California). >From 1974 until a couple of years ago, I bought and sold a dozen or more rifles, handguns, and even Evil Assault Weapons, mostly through fully legal gun shows. I even sold a .357 Smith to some guy, made a joke about how great these gun shows were and how great it was to be able to just take cash and hand over a gun without any paperwork...the guy laughed and said he was a San Jose cop. I felt nervous for a few seconds, but quickly realized there was no law *I* was breaking, so I laughed too. Most of these guns I kept no records on, nor did any laws say I had to. (A few years ago it became necessary for even private citizen-units to obtain the proper firearms transfer papers from the gubment. I wanted to sell a laser-equipped Heckler & Koch SP-89 without creating a paper trail (as I'd not had one when I acquired the piece a few years earlier), so a friend of mine used his friendly neighborhood libertarian FFL dealer, who has a policy that the stack of transfer forms he is required to keep on file will mysteriously burn up if the Feds ever seek out his records. (Who knows if he'll abide by this policy, but the point is that there are literally tens of thousands of these "kitchen table FFL dealers," and no computerized filing of records. This is one reason I quit the NRA: they are advocating the "instant check." Such an instant check would mean massive computerization of all files, and of course cross-referencing to files on citizens. This would be much worse than the "paper chaos" of stacks of firearms paperwork sitting in dusty filing cabinets. I'll take a 10-day ineffectual waiting period to a Big Brother database of all purchasers.) >BTW, I muse that the issue of guns, drugs and censorship make an >excellent litmus test for libertarians: either you support the >legalization of, all of, or your a fake. I'm not sure what the "legalization of censorship" would mean, though I support the right of anyone to screen out what they choose not to read or view. And I support the right of companies to decide what materials to buy, have viewed by employees, etc. (So if the "Valley Lesbigays" want to show a tape at Hewlett-Packard, H-P can just say "Nope--we're not interested.) I fully support legalization of all drugs, all guns, and am unalterably opposed to any form of government censorship. Does this mean I pass or flunk the litmus test? (He said acidly.) --Tim May We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, I know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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by Cyber Thrill 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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