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Re: Crypto books
by koontzd＠lrcs.loral.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>From: Karl Lui Barrus <klbarrus(a)owlnet.rice.edu> >I have this book - "Cryptography and Secure Communications" by Man >Young Rhee. It covers basic cryptography (number theory, DES, block >ciphers, stream ciphers, public key systems) and also communications >(BCH codes, Reed-Solomon Codes, Error control for cryptosystems). If you like the Meyer/Matras book 'Crptography', you'll like this one.

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tcmay on wfmu-fm (nyc)
by dmandl＠lehman.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

New York City-area cypherpunks: Tim May has graciously agreed to be on my radio show again this Saturday (via telephone). We'll be talking about the Big Brother aspects of Clipper/Capstone, and maybe a bit about Digital Telephony if we get to it. The vital stats: WFMU (East Orange, NJ) 91.1 FM Saturday, April 30, 12 noon local time (my show runs from 11 to 1). No, I won't be taping it. Tell all your friends. --Dave.

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Re: Gee...
by dmandl＠lehman.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: Sandy Sandfort <sandfort(a)crl.com> > On Wed, 27 Apr 1994, David Mandl wrote: > > > Anyone can get this stuff out of the country surreptitiously. > > I think the point was to get it out _legally_, through the law's > > _own_ loopholes. Then they're completely powerless to stop it > > or persecute the responsible parties in any way. . . . > > Wrong on both counts. Getting it out legally would be nice--it's a great > *fallback* position--but that's not the object of the game. The idea is > to get it out and make it widely available. Period. First of all, the above was not my position (though I have no big problem with it). I was just explaining the point of this thread, which the previous poster seemed to be unaware of. Now, are you saying I'm wrong about it being easy to get crypto software out of the country illegally? If so, you've got to be kidding. This stuff has probably crossed the border fifty times TODAY. Everyone on this list knows that. If simply getting crypto code out of the country By Any Means Necessary was the goal, this thread would never have been started, Perry would never have considering publishing code in machine-readable form, and no one would have done the little test with Schneier's book (Hal?...I forget who it was). The point was to get it out in such a way that no one had to hide from the lawman or pretend the code was written overseas, and we could all walk in the sun. Me, I have no problem with people exporting it illegally to their heart's content. > The Constitution and other laws are not magic talismans. It is fantasy > thinking that technical compliance with the government's laws renders > them "completely powerless." A Smith & Wesson beats four-of-a-kind. Your point? Sure, the government can do whatever they want. So? I have no interest in the Constitution and the "Law" (though I obey the latter because I'm not keen to spend the rest of my life in jail). I just don't care. All I was doing above was explaining this thread to someone who seemed to miss the whole point. > S a n d y, (Attorney-out-law)

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No Subject
by nobody＠shell.portal.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

rarachel(a)prism.poly.edu (Arsen Ray Arachelian) wrote: > <<How about tarring the code together, encrypting it, and > e-mailing the message out?>> > > > Gee, how about getting arrested for exporting munitions? People have been doing that for years and no one's gotten arrested yet. :) In case you haven't noticed, people outside the US requesting crypto stuff usually don't have too much trouble finding a volunteer willing to send it to them.

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a test server?
by nelson＠crynwr.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Is there a PGP test server anywhere? I'd like to use its public key to encrypt a message, mail it to the server, and have it mail the plaintext back to me. I'd also like to have it look up my pubic key in the appropriate repository (which is?) and verify that my message was signed properly. -russ <nelson(a)crynwr.com> ftp.msen.com:pub/vendor/crynwr/crynwr.wav Crynwr Software | Crynwr Software sells packet driver support | ask4 PGP key 11 Grant St. | +1 315 268 1925 (9201 FAX) | Quakers do it in the light Potsdam, NY 13676 | LPF member - ask me about the harm software patents do.

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No Subject
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Since I haven't seen this article float through the list, I hope John doesn't mind it being reposted. From: gnu(a)toad.com (John Gilmore) Newsgroups: alt.politics.org.nsa,comp.org.eff.talk Subject: Why is clipper worse than "no encryption like we have today"? Date: 27 Apr 94 08:50:17 GMT Organization: Cygnus Support, Mt. View, California Mike Tighe <tighe(a)convex.COM> wrote: > But the NSA is not going to control the keys, are they? I thought it was > going to be under the control of two independent agencies. And even if they > are leaked, how is that worse then the system we have today, where no keys > are required? It's worse because the market keeps moving toward providing real encryption. If Clipper succeeds, it will be by displacing real secure encryption. If real secure encryption makes it into mass market communications products, Clipper will have failed. The whole point is not to get a few Clippers used by cops; the point is to make it a worldwide standard, rather than having 3-key triple-DES with RSA and Diffie-Hellman become the worldwide standard. We'd have decent encryption in digital cellular phones *now*, except for the active intervention of Jerry Rainville of NSA, who `hosted' a meeting of the standards committee inside Ft. Meade, lied to them about export control to keep committee documents limited to a small group, and got a willing dupe from Motorola, Louis Finkelstein, to propose an encryption scheme a child could break. The IS-54 standard for digital cellular doesn't describe the encryption scheme -- it's described in a separate document, which ordinary people can't get, even though it's part of the official accredited standard. (Guess who accredits standards bodies though -- that's right, the once pure NIST.) The reason it's secret is because it's so obviously weak. The system generates a 160-bit "key" and then simply XORs it against each block of the compressed speech. Take any ten or twenty blocks and recover the key by XORing frequent speech patterns (like silence, or the letter "A") against pieces of the blocks to produce guesses at the key. You try each guess on a few blocks, and the likelihood of producing something that decodes like speech in all the blocks is small enough that you'll know when your guess is the real key. NSA is continuing to muck around in the Digital Cellular standards committee (TR 45.3) this year too. I encourage anyone who's interested to join the committee, perhaps as an observer. Contact the Telecommunications Industry Association in DC and sign up. Like any standards committee, it's open to the public and meets in various places around the country. I'll lend you a lawyer if you're a foreign national, since the committee may still believe that they must exclude foreign nationals from public discussions of cryptography. Somehow the crypto conferences have no trouble with this; I think it's called the First Amendment. NSA knows the law here -- indeed it enforces it via the State Dept -- but lied to the committee. -- John Gilmore gnu(a)toad.com -- gnu(a)cygnus.com -- gnu(a)eff.org Can we talk in private? Join me in the Electronic Frontier Foundation. Not if the FBI and NSA have their way. Ask membership(a)eff.org how.

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No Subject
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I simply had to pass this article along to c'punks... Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk From: milles(a)fi.gs.com (Stevens Miller) Subject: NSA remarks at "Lawyers and the Internet" Date: Tue, 26 Apr 1994 17:04:33 GMT I'm a computer programmer and attorney who is a member of the Committee on Technology and the Practice of Law, a task force assembled by the Association of the Bar of the City of New York. Last Friday we held a conference on "Lawyers and the Internet." Approximately 200 lawyers attended. Speaking in favor of the Clipper proposal was Stuart Baker of the NSA. I won't repeat his substantial arguments, but his formal approach (which Mike Godwin tells me is becoming a standard component of the government's pro-Clipper road show) is worth some attention. Parroting his own words at CFP, Baker told us: - The debate over the Clipper proposal is "really just a culture clash among net-heads." - Those opposing the proposal are late-coming counter-culturists, "who couldn't go to Woodstock because they had to do their trig homework." - Opponents envision themselves as would-be "cybernauts in bandoliers and pocket-protectors." I quote these remarks (as best I can from memory; my hands were shaking too much to write clearly at this point) to make it clear that our government's representative has reached a conclusion about the community opposing its plan. He has concluded that the members of that community are so beneath his respect that it is more appropriate to make fun of them than it is to respond to their views. As Godwin pointed out later, the NSA really just doesn't care what anyone says. That, he said, is why Baker repeatedly invokes the spectre of child-molestation as the chief evil Clipper will prevent; by that invocation is much meritorious debate deflected. Baker replied to this by emphasizing the reality of the pedophilia potential of networks, telling us that many users of networks "are teenaged boys with inept social skills." Regardless of the law-enforcement potential of this plan, it is worth noting that an official spokesman for the government endorses it by pointing out that its opponents valued their studies more highly than they did rock and roll. That because the popular image of the bookworm can be juxtaposed against that of Rambo in a funny way, bookworms don't have to be taken seriously. That if you play with computers as a youngster, your community, your parents and your own brain can't save you. That the government must protect you from your own ineptitude, whether you want its help or not. The message was pretty clear: Stuart Baker doesn't care what you say, but he wants the power to listen. --- Stevens R. Miller |"The complete truth is not the (212) 227-1594 | prerogative of the human judge." sharp(a)echonyc.com | New York, New York | - Supreme Court of Israel

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Anonymous remailer for Waffle
by kafka＠desert.hacktic.nl 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I made a simple remailer for Waffle. Please don't flame me on the code. You install it by putting an entry in your /waffle/system/aliases file. The arguments are remail <remailer-username> <uucpname> <node> If the username of your remailer is "anon", your uucpname is "foobar", and your full nodename is "bla.org", you have to put the following line in /waffle/system/aliases: anon | remail anon foobar foobar.bla.org FUTURE I want to make it penet style, but with support of PGP, chaining and a database of (passworded) anon accounts. Future versions will read the uucpname from the /waffle/system/static file. (I was too lazy to do that now). To make it possible to reply, I think the following approach will do: the 'reply-to:' address will be "<anon(a)some.system.org> (NickName Anon-ID=XXXXXX)" where XXXXXX is the number of the anon account you want to send mail to, and NickName your (possible) nickname. Header-fields: X-Anon-To: (newsgroup or e-mail address) X-Anon-Encrypted: PGP (to let the remailer know it is encrypted) Please let me know your comments... Patrick :) ---------------------- cut here --------------------------- #include <stdio.h> #include <dos.h> #include <time.h> #include <io.h> #include <sys\types.h> #include <sys\stat.h> #include <fcntl.h> #define MAIL 0 #define NEWS 1 main(int argc, char *argv[]) { const char *Months[]={"Jan", "Feb", "Mar", "Apr", "May", "Jun", "Jul","Aug","Sep","Oct","Nov","Dec", NULL}; const char *Days[]={"Mon","Tue","Wed","Thu","Fri","Sat","Sun",NULL}; char UnixDate[30]; char type = 0; char c[1024]; FILE *f; char to[1024]; char from[60]; char subj[128]; char cmd[128]; char *fname; char *template = "XXXXXX"; struct dosdate_t d; struct time t; c[0] = '\0'; if (argc < 4) { printf("Usage: remail <remailer-username> <uucpname> <node>\n"); printf("Example: remail remail desert desert.hacktic.nl\n"); return; } while (strlen(gets(c)) != 0 && ! feof(stdin)) { if (strstr(c, "Subject: ") != NULL) strcpy(subj, &c[9]); if (strstr(c, "From: ") != NULL) strcpy(from,&c[6]); if (strstr(c, "X-Anon-To: ") != NULL) strcpy(to,&c[11]); } if (strstr(to, "@") != NULL) && (strstr(to, "!") != NULL) type = MAIL; else type = NEWS; gettime(&t); _dos_getdate(&d); sprintf(UnixDate, "%s, %d %s %d %02d:%02d:%02d GMT", Days[d.dayofweek], \ d.day, Months[d.month-1], d.year,t.ti_hour, t.ti_min, t.ti_sec); if (type == MAIL) { fname = mktemp(template); f = fopen(fname, "wt"); fprintf(f, "From %s %s remote from %s\n", argv[1], UnixDate, argv[2]); fprintf(f, "From: %s@%s\n", argv[1], argv[3]); fprintf(f, "To: %s\n", to); fprintf(f, "Subject: %s\n", subj); fprintf(f, "Date: %s\n\n", UnixDate); while (! feof(stdin)) putc(getc(stdin), f); fclose(f); sprintf(cmd, "rmail -f %s -u %s %s < %s", argv[1], argv[1], to, fname); system(cmd); unlink(fname); } else if (type == NEWS) { fname = mktemp(template); f = fopen(fname, "wt"); fprintf(f, "Path: %s!%s\n", argv[1], argv[2]); fprintf(f, "From: %s@%s\n", argv[1], argv[3]); fprintf(f, "Subject: %s\n", subj); fprintf(f, "Date: %s\n", UnixDate); fprintf(f, "Newsgroups: %s\n\n", to); while (! feof(stdin)) putc(getc(stdin), f); fclose(f); sprintf(cmd, "rnews < %s", fname); system(cmd); unlink(fname); } } ---------------------- cut here --------------------------- begin 600 remail.exe M35I, !@ 0 @ X ___* H /@ $ ^U!J<@ M ! 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re: Crypto scripting language
by wet!naga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Date: Wed, 27 Apr 1994 09:00:10 -0700 >From: Hal <hfinney(a)shell.portal.com> >To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com >Subject: Re: Crypto scripting language > >From: peace(a)BIX.com >> I wrote a cryptographic scripting language that has been implemented in >> a commercial product. [...] > >I'd like to hear more about your scripting language. >[...] In the mean time, perhaps you could describe the language here. What >is its syntax like? Interpreted or compiled? What kind of special crypto >support does it have? > [...] >Hal Well, I don't know anything about peace(a)BIX.com's crypto scripting language but according to my manual for Dolphin Encrypt Advanced Version (a different product from DE) the program supports a script language. It's an interpreted language. It's explained in an 11-page appendix in the manual. From a quick perusal: The script is contained in a textfile. You run DE with a command like DE2 @XXX.SCR and it reads XXX.SCR and interprets the commands. Apparently the script language is designed only for use with the Dolphin Encrypt program itself (so you can't use it to encrypt with DES, etc.). I don't have much use for scripting crypto applications myself (though if there were lots of encryption/decryption to be done daily I could see a use), so I can't post any that I've written for my own use only, but here's two of the sample scripts from the DEAV disk: #TEST2.SCR #Script for testing Dolphin Encrypt #Last mod.: 1992-05-02 if not there_are_any C:\TEMP\*.TXT output: output: There are no C:\TEMP\*.TXT else encrypt C:\TEMP\*.TXT C:\TEMP\*.ENC /c /b8 if exit_status = 0 decrypt C:\TEMP\*.ENC C:\TEMP\*.DEC /b- if exit_status = 0 run DCOMPARE C:\TEMP\*.TXT C:\TEMP\*.DEC if exit_status = 0 output: File comparisons OK else output: File comparison error! endif endif endif endif // VIEWENC.SCR // A script for decrypting and viewing text files in the current directory // which have been encrypted as files with extension .ENC. // No input parameters required // Use: DE2 @VIEWENC.SCR // Last modified: 1993-03-25 set escape on // Allow termination from script // by pressing the Escape key. output // Print a blank line decrypt *.ENC *.DEC // Decrypt the .ENC file(s) if not successful // Check if decryption successful. output: Decryption error! // Print message if not. else // Otherwise: beep // Pause so that user can wait: Press a key ... // verify successful decryption. save screen // Save the video screen. DFR *.DEC // View the plaintext files using DFR restore screen // Restore the video screen. beep // Get the user's attention. output // output a blank line output: Decrypted plaintext files: DIR *.DEC /w // Show decrypted files on disk. output // output a blank line ask: Purge decrypted file(s)? if answer = Y purge *.DEC /d // /d means display file names. if not successful // If error occurred beep // attract user's attention wait // and wait for a keypress. endif endif if printer // If output redirected to printer eject // issue a formfeed. endif endif Lessee now ... for those interested, Dolphin Software's address is ... got it right here ... 48 Shattuck Square #147, Berkeley, CA 94704.

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stop mailing to remail@infinity, please
by Eli Brandt 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Somebody has been repeatedly (probably by a script) trying to remail through me to "remail(a)infinity.hip.berkeley.edu", which bounces back to me (unknown user). If it's somebody on this list, could you stop? Otherwise I'll have to have something grep for it so I can source- block the sender, and I don't really want to get into looking at incoming traffic. Eli ebrandt(a)hmc.edu

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