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MSDNFlash, Volume 2, Number 3, February 9, 1998
by MSDNFlash Editor 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: Massey, CEO of Compuserve, on Internet
by Peter D. Junger 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Michael Handler writes: : On Fri, 29 Dec 1995, Timothy C. May wrote: : : > Wow! I am watching the CEO of Compuserve being interviewed on CNBC, : > explaining how his company is "taking the high road by complying with the : > laws of Germany" in removing access to 200 Usenet groups. : : A blatant lie. [Material deleted] : CompuServe is starting to look worse and worse in this thing. I'm : still waiting for the real story. Here is an excerpt from a story on the : AP: : : <stuff deleted> : Munich prosecutor Manfred Wick confirmed Friday that Bavarian state : police investigators searched CompuServe's networks and computers last : month for child pornography, but he would not say what they found. : "We didn't threaten them with charges," Wick said. : Arno Edelmann, a CompuServe product manager in Unterhaching, : Germany, said Friday that the company blocked access to 200 : sex-oriented newsgroups in a portion of the Internet called Usenet. : "It is perhaps an overreaction but we want to cooperate with the : Bavarian prosecutor's office," Edelmann said. : <stuff deleted> : [ end ] : : And herein lie the pitfalls of trying to establish a global ISP : presence. : One should also notice that Bavaria is only one state in the German Federal Republic; this case is more like Texas investigating Compuserve than the United States federal government investigating Compuserve. Bavaria is the stronghold of what can properly be called the (Catholic) Religious Right in Germany. It should also be noticed that in general German publications and television seem to be less constrained in publishing materials that in the United States would be called ``indecent'' by some than are United States publications and broadcasters. -- Peter D. Junger--Case Western Reserve University Law School--Cleveland, OH Internet: junger(a)pdj2-ra.f-remote.cwru.edu junger(a)samsara.law.cwru.edu

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Re: Zensoren ueber Alles
by tallpaul＠pipeline.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Dec 30, 1995 00:04:01, '"Ed Carp [khijol SysAdmin]" <erc(a)dal1820.computek.net>' wrote: > >This "Tall Paul" fellow said: "Based on other news reports, I conclude that CompuServe lied in both areas." > >So? Companies lie all the time - the bigger the company, the bigger the >lie, in my experience. Companies are like governments - they will get >away with what they can until caught. Even then, they rarely stop - it >just goes undercover. > I was not presenting a political analysis behind CompuServe's actions, nor writing a simple personal opinion. I was presenting what I considered an factually correct objective observation of their actions. >> It did none of these things. It cut off all customers to an enormous number >> of groups. It inferrentially violated property rights (i.e. contracts) to >> customers promised internet access and now provided only a crippled version >> thereof. And it lied about the whole thing. > >Again, so? All that it will do is to drive people away from Compu$erve >into the arms of other service providers. Maybe some of them will even >figure out what a *real* ISP is... > How accurate is Carp's conclusion. Not very, in my opinion. The inaccuracy develops from the excessively narrow economic focus of Carp's thinking. It is an analysis that ignores the *social* implications of the CompuServe decision, treating the entire matter almost as something that would only interest CompuServe, Microsoft, AOL, and Prodigy stockholders. Among the other effects *already* visible, the decision has: 1) Led to an enormous amount of anti-net publicity by incompetent editors on the national news; 2) Furthered the development of hysteria and hysterical organizing; ("I don't care if it is censorship," said one mommy interviewed on the national news. "It is good for my children.") 3) Furthered the developmet of the right-wing "family rights" crowd; ("We need to follow Germany's lead," said one official from one of the "family rights" crowd interviewed on the national news.) 4) Promoted more dishonesty as a perfectly reasonable and perfectly acceptable means of engaging in social discourse; I predict it will also be used for additional attacks on issues of encryption, privacy, and anonymity. That is, I think we will see statements like "We need to be especially vigilant to make sure that the perverts are not smuggling banned material into the country via the internet. This means we have to block encryption, monitor user accounts even more carefully for potential perverts, etc. etc. Finally, I am not sure that Carp's economic analysis of the CompuServe decision is correct. The large internet service providers (LISP) form an oligopoly and, I think, the LISP all abandon hopes that they can become a monopoly. One form of oligopolistic co-operation is the creation of market niches within acceptable bounds of market share for each of the oligopolistic corporations. That is, CompuServe just launched a huge organizing effort to grab the "family" niche within the LISP market. I do not have the facts needed for a detailed quantfiable analysis of the LISP oligopoly (and frankly would not want to devote the time to such an analysis even if I did.) So I'll conclude here by stating that CompuServe's market share may increase because of their decision as parents move from the "family hostile" MSN/AOL/etc. to the "family friendly" CompuServe. If sexual hysteria is much stronger than views against censorship, for freedom of speech and inquiry, then we may see the other LISP groups emulate CompuServe to protect their oligopolistic market share. That is, if *significant* portions of AOL/MSN/etc. customers are motivated by sexual hysteria and start moving their accounts to CompuServe we will see AOL.MSN/etc. become equally "family friendly" to stop the customer shifts. --tallpaul

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Re: rec.guns et.al. blocked by censorware
by Igor Chudov ＠ home 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In rec.guns, Dan <ywq(a)wco.com> wrote: * I guess I should not be surprised but blocking software Cyber Patrol apparently * blocks rec.guns and rec.hunting because we are militant extremists, advocate * violence and swear. The whole story starts at: * http://www.spectacle.org/cwp/index.html * You have to keep going until you get to newsgroups. * * If Cyber Patrol is doing this I suspect their competition is doing so as well. * * Magnum: I know this is sort of off topic, but I believe it's important for the * group at large to know. Just fyi, I did look at the site and was astonished. Indeed anyone who uses this Cyber Patrol is a fool. Examples of HUNDREDS of blocked newsgroups: rec.games.mecha Giant robot games. (Moderated) Quest/Illegal/Gamble Violence/Profanity Intol news.groups Discussions and lists of newsgroups. Intol news.groups.questions Where can I find talk about topic X? Intol rec.guns Discussions about firearms. (Moderated) Militant/Extreme Violence/Profanity * -- * Dan - ywq(a)wco.com * I love the smell of Hoppes #9 in the morning. * Follow the Money - Who funds the election of your Congresscritter - www.opensecrets.org ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- char*p="char*p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} \=/, _-===-_-====-_-===-_-==========-_-====-_ | @___oo ( )_ /\ /\ / (___,,,}_--= ) ) /^\) ^\/ _) =__ Anything is good and useful if ) ) /^\/ _) (_ ) ) _ / / _) ( it's made of chocolate. ) /\ )/\/ || | )_) (_ ) < > |(,,) )__) ( http://www.algebra.com/~ichudov ) || / \)___)\ (_ _) | \____( )___) )___ -==-_____-=====-_____-=====-___== \______(_______;;; __;;;

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Re: CHU_chu Search Engines, Branded Communities
by Peter Trei 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

riverrun John Young writes: > 12-29-95. FinTimes: > "Engine of the superhighway" muses on search engines and > branded communities, and how their convergence will > barb-wire lecher Tio Web from wild-legger Tia Juana. > CHU_chu I can't get much out of the second clause above. Much as I truely value John's notices of articles from the paper world, I sometimes wish he would not obfuscate his text. speaking for myself Peter Trei trei(a)process.com riverrun

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Re: (fwd) DigiCash licencing?
by James A. Donald 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Jyri Kaljundi <jk(a)digit.ee> wrote: > Does anyone know about the terms and costs of licencing ecash software? I > have tried contacting DigiCash directly with these questions, but have > got no answers This experience (total lack of coherent response from Digicash) seems to be widespread, on many issues. The answer to your question has to be decided by DigiCash on a case by case basis, and they are not noted for thinking on their feet. --------------------------------------------------------------------- | We have the right to defend ourselves | http://www.jim.com/jamesd/ and our property, because of the kind | of animals that we are. True law | James A. Donald derives from this right, not from the | arbitrary power of the state. | jamesd(a)echeque.com

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Re: Massey, CEO of Compuserve, on Internet
by Gary Howland 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Peter D. Junger wrote: > > One should also notice that Bavaria is only one state in the German > Federal Republic; this case is more like Texas investigating > Compuserve than the United States federal government investigating > Compuserve. Bavaria is the stronghold of what can properly be called > the (Catholic) Religious Right in Germany. It should also be noticed > that in general German publications and television seem to be less > constrained in publishing materials that in the United States would be > called ``indecent'' by some than are United States publications and > broadcasters. > In some areas they may be a tad more liberal, but in general they are not. They do indeed have laws preventing freedom of speech (especially with regard to right wing politics, the holocaust etc.) Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that all German ISPs do not carry various political/controversial newsgroups such as alt.revisionism due to legal reasons. A more serious problem for those of us in EU countries is that the German government have influence on other EU states - only a week or two ago they tried to push through European wide legislation restricting freedom of speech. Gary - -- "If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence." -- US Supreme Court Justive Louis Brandeis - --- [This message has been signed by an auto-signing service. A valid signature means only that it has been received at the address corresponding to the signature and forwarded.] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Gratis auto-signing service iQBFAwUBMOWKESoZzwIn1bdtAQEBQwGA1jg9rwAJgB/PlkzItUp4JOjScswcqxR5 hqSJK/rj2o6cNN7Z9OGVD8+9VMJi7BEp =XTJn -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Zero Knowledge Access
by Secret Squirrel 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Dumbfuck Rimjob (Dr.) Dimitri Vulis fucks apes with a spiked metal pole on the weekends and dreams of someone doing it to him. Buttfuck on, Dimitri.

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Re: rec.guns et.al. blocked by censorware
by Tim May 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 3:02 PM -0800 2/8/98, Igor Chudov @ home wrote: >In rec.guns, Dan <ywq(a)wco.com> wrote: >* I guess I should not be surprised but blocking software Cyber Patrol >apparently >* blocks rec.guns and rec.hunting because we are militant extremists, advocate >* violence and swear. The whole story starts at: >* http://www.spectacle.org/cwp/index.html >* You have to keep going until you get to newsgroups. >Examples of HUNDREDS of blocked newsgroups: > >rec.games.mecha Giant robot games. (Moderated) Quest/Illegal/Gamble >Violence/Profanity Intol >news.groups Discussions and lists of newsgroups. Intol >news.groups.questions Where can I find talk about topic X? Intol >rec.guns Discussions about firearms. (Moderated) Militant/Extreme >Violence/Profanity Interestingly, rec.guns is moderated (not that I like that), and there is virtually no profanity or discussion of anything remotely of a sexual nature. The discussion is on-topic, about revolvers, rifles, ammunition, target shooting, defense methods, etc. That the "cyber nannies" are blocking it (and other similarly nonsexual, nonprofane newsgroups) is exactly what was expected. These cyber nannies become tools for political correctness. Perhaps the strategy should be to post material to other newsgroups to get them blocked as well. (Though I expect the blocking is not being done using robots to monitor for illegal words, as rec.guns would not have been blocked this way. Rather, the cyber nannies are probably using their "PC judgment" to block groups they don't like. --Tim May Just Say No to "Big Brother Inside" ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, ComSec 3DES: 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^3,021,377 | black markets, collapse of governments.

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Re: last straw
by jim bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 07:34 AM 12/30/95 -0800, you wrote: >I've decided to cancel my CrampuNerve account and send the weasels a msg to >telling them why. I encourage everyone here to do the same with your CI$ >account (if you still have one). These [insert colorful expletive here]s >only understand one thing: cold ca$h. Thus, the only effective way to send >them an indication of one's displeasure at their poor precedent-setting is >to vote with one's wallet. > >Any who are still unfortunate enough to rely on CI$ for Internet/Usenet >access are getting reamed price-wise anyway, not to mention suffering poor >reliability and now access, so maybe a few of them could also take this >opportunity to migrate to an ISP with some real "backbone." I don't have a CSERVE account, and never have. But yesterday, I called a friend (who has such an account) I talk to every two weeks or so. The conversation went something like this: "Hi Greg." "Hi Jim." "I suggest that you get rid of your Comp..." (he cuts me off in mid-sentence, anticipating the entire subject of the call) "I'm doing that as we speak, Jim" "...because they just..." (I continued the thought, but he cut me off again) "That's EXACTLY why I'm doing it, Jim." (mutual laughter as we realize the irony of the situation.) Somehow, I think Compuserve is going to get the message.

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