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Re: GSM crypto upgrade? (was Re: Newt's phone calls)
by Steve Schear 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>>This is the approach taken by PGPfone also. If the value of the >>conversations was high (>$100,000?) passable voice imitation wouldn't >>be that hard I suspect. > >I have long considered how easy it would be to use a sound card to modify >the human voice to match within certain tolerances the voice of another. > >There are currently on the market, phones specifically designed to modify >the voice of the user so that kids can answer as adults, women can answer as >thier own protective boyfriends, bosses can answer anonymous calls as the >secretary, etc... > >There are currently on the market keyboards that allow you to sample some >real world sound and use it as a voice in your music, (the model I saw, a >toy produced by Radio Shack, simply sped up or slowed down the sound to >achieve this.) > >I have thought, if a machine were to take the incoming voice, analize >(apologies for spelling) it to get a spectrum signature, a pattern that can >be added or subtracted from another, and could then add the difference >between that and the victims signature to the users voice, then real-time, >on-the-fly con jobs would be easy. > >The only thing that the user would be responsible for would be the accent, >and the day-to-day vocabulary of the victim. > >I told a friend about this and he confirmed that such was available if you >knew where to look. A friend of mine, an expert on signal processing, vocei systhesis and recognition, showed me a journal article (think it was an IEEE) in 1990 of some university researchers who had prototyped just such a device. Never followed up, but it seems entirely reasonable a practicle. In fact I'm surprised that Hollywood hasn't latched onto this in order to dub film stars to different languages w/o loosing their recognizable voice characteristics. --Steve

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Re: Fighting the cybercensor.
by Mark M. 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Tue, 21 Jan 1997, Phillip M. Hallam-Baker wrote: > 2) How can one prevent the proxies themselves being blocked? Some > ideas that come to mind: > > 2a) Only issue new sites gradually so that blocking requires > continuous updates. I'm not sure how effective this would be. This depends mostly on security through obscurity. If the censors are very dedicated to making sure that all sites containing offending content are blocked, then there might be a few hours between the time when the mirror is set up and when it gets blocked. I prefer to think of the solution to this problem as a denial of service attack rather than just relying on obscurity. If the goal is to make sure that a large number of people have access to the mirrors, then the chances are it will be blocked fairly quickly. If many different diverse sites set up mirrors, this would effectively cut off that country's access to the web. This still does rely on some obscurity, such as being able to change URLs on a site frequently so the whole site has to be blocked instead of just the offending URL. A series of linguistic instructions on generating the URL could easily evade any bot seeking out notices of new URLs. This might be spelling out the URL, telling the user to find the MD5 hash of a specified string (a cgi interface for md5sum might be useful for this example), or any obscure method of encoding an URL that should be easy for any person to understand, but impossible for a program to parse. > 2b) Use DHCP to change network addresses regularly. If this change is regular enough, then it might force the censors to block the whole network and not just the host. Definitely a positive. Mark -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3 Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBMuVsNyzIPc7jvyFpAQGTDwf/UYZ/pZr1WP5KPAJi6NEI1L+3xJR295gW jpHV1pYVweKbozTK3ZJKfL9kaF+nP/0e2UjBAtYTgMJyLxetzjg1lmMhM3r7aR6g 0oBUO79lnWUwnhsxafWmTVlr+6p1wgwSsHAPsdkn/zNQVz1EZc/o5SbmzR2js+6B szLbq7Vid6ap0pshU2NcuEvKmCijMW0cRNeJoaaIBkdMh3SD/FKS/gwSjWqhIefJ 4hthXXu29X7QZk/e8NTbuJY+tiGvKSjmLEZFxUmPXlG6DbRm2HV8FhPNStZhUFN4 MkB+ADvEc3noCxyB3w2y+ThoK41o8caDzWJGWjJ9zf+GGtusWNcYHA== =JS38 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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by Mail Delivery Subsystem 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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No Subject
by mixmaster＠remail.obscura.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Is there a moderated list available which expunges only Dale? The good Dr., though vicious, is really quite clever, though vicious. Dale is only a bore. Only. Hugs to all.

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REMOVE
by MSI: Patrick D. O'Brien 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

REMOVE

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Re: GSM technology
by Nurdane Oksas 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Tue, 21 Jan 1997, Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote: > Nurdane Oksas <oksas(a)asimov.montclair.edu> writes: > > > On Tue, 21 Jan 1997, Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote: > > > Nurdane Oksas <oksas(a)asimov.montclair.edu> writes: > > > > > > > ADSL will be the best for movies... i can't wait . > > > > > > What kind of movies? > > > > You're too young to watch these..:) > > I'm older than you... Do you mean I'm too old to watch these? Yes physically you are older and wiser; And watching 'wild orchid' would be detrimental to your health. thinking of you, oksas!

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Re: GSM crypto upgrade? (was Re: Newt's phone calls) (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 17:29:05 -0800 > From: Steve Schear <azur(a)netcom.com> > Subject: Re: GSM crypto upgrade? (was Re: Newt's phone calls) > > followed up, but it seems entirely reasonable a practicle. In fact I'm > surprised that Hollywood hasn't latched onto this in order to dub film > stars to different languages w/o loosing their recognizable voice > characteristics. In this regards you people (en toto) need to do a little more real world research in this area. Voice recognition is and has been easy to do for decades. As to what Hollywood is doing, not only are they doing voice masking but your local radio station does it on a regular basis [1] for a few $1,000's in hardware and software. [1] Video Toaster User Dec. 1996 Toaster Talk - "Learning from radio" pp. 6 Jim Choate CyberTects ravage(a)ssz.com

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The Purpose of the List
by Blanc Weber 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

If the cpunk list discusses only crypto, then mathematician-programmers will do their cold work in an isolation which eliminates the need to think about the consequences of their actions. So discussions on philosophy, society, etc., are important, to remind everyone of the context within which this subject operates. However, if "community feeling" is the only thing created on the list, and crypto is no longer the focal topic, then what is to be accomplished: the list will become just a playing ground for wayward KOTM PhDs who are not welcome in most other cyberspaces. So the question of "how will this impact society", must maintain association with "but how does this relate to crypto?". (unless the list has changed its stripes, evolving into something completely different, which many will agree it has). .. Blanc

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Re: Airport security [no such thing]
by Nurdane Oksas 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Sun, 19 Jan 1997, Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote: > Nurdane Oksas <oksas(a)asimov.montclair.edu> writes: > > > On Sat, 18 Jan 1997, Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote: > > > Nurdane Oksas <oksas(a)asimov.montclair.edu> writes: > > > > > > > On Sat, 18 Jan 1997, Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote: > > > > > > > > > Nurdane Oksas <oksas(a)asimov.montclair.edu> writes: > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 17 Jan 1997, Dale Thorn wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote: > > > > > > > > snow <snow(a)smoke.suba.com> writes: > > > > > > > > > > I say we make people fly naked and ship their stuff via UPS ; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>shudder<< > > > > > > > > > No!. A clear case of the cure being worse than the disease. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why. it might be fun - those long flight can be so boring with cl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This one I really don't understand. Cypherpunks lobbied heavily fo > > > > > > > the Final Solution to Spamming and flaming, now along comes the per > > > > > > > solution to the airport security problem, and nobody's gonna go for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guess those old, out-of-shape guys don't want anybody laughing at t > > > > > > > Besides, they can put all the clothes in the same plane's baggage > > > > > > > compartment. And planes have those little blankets and pillows, > > > > > > > so what's the problem? > > > > > > > > > > > > Cold temps... > > > > > > > > > > What can naked people do to keep warm??? > > > > > > > > steal blankets from nearby passenger.. > > > > > > I once saw a movie where they had a heroin (or cocaine?) processing lab > > > and everybody was supposed to work naked so it would be hard to steal > > > some of the product. Of course in the movie all the employees were good- > > > looking women (Oksas would have been the big star!). > > > > Thank you for the complement; You've only seen me with clothes :) > > I can tell. > > > Would you like to share my blanket? > > Sure! A true gentleman (like me) is always ready, willing, and able to share > a security blanket with a lady. I am very embarassed... > > "Something nekkid's in the air!" > i think i am in trouble ;) > --- > > Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM > Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps >

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Nikola Tesla
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 22:39:48 -0500 > From: John Young <jya(a)pipeline.com> > Subject: Seismic Crypto > > In a NYT report today on a "mysterious" blast in the > Australian outback in 1993, there's mention of "seismic > weapons" and research on them by Nicholas Tesla > in the 1930s. First, it's Nikola Tesla. At least do the man the honor of getting his name correct (he is a personal hero of mine), I mean he ONLY invented the AC power system we use today, the first commercial power generation plant at Niagra Falls in the world, the first torpedo which he sold to the Russians because the USN was too stupid to buy it, radio, remote control via radio, wireless power transmission, etc... Second, there is a LOT of hogwash attributed to Nikola which he in actuality never worked on (ie death rays, flying saucers to the interior of the Earth, etc.). If you would like to learn more about him then check out "The Writings and Inventions of Nikola Tesla", it was proofed by him prior to its publication. You will also find in most bookstores a copy of all his American patents in "The Collected Patents of Nikola Tesla". I apologize for not providing ISBN's but my copies are 30 miles away in my shop being used to build Tesla Coils. I would strongly suggest avoiding the Tesla Society as it is, in my opinion, populated by a bunch of UFO and conspiracy crazies (though a small percentage of their articles are useable). His work on 'artificial earthquakes' dealt with his studies on mechanical coupling between tuned oscillators. He was finaly 'asked' to leave because he would get 4-5 square block areas of New York rocking, much to the chagrin of the residents, by coupling pile-driver like oscillators to the building he lived in. Jim Choate CyberTects ravage(a)ssz.com

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