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RE: The Net and Terrorism
by blanc 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: Timothy C. May If there's any meta-point I'm making is that people are best served by making their own security arrangements, be it home protection, financial security, health security, or the security from rioters, criminals, and terrorists being talked about here. Turning over increased powers to a government to do these things is a recipe for failure, at very high costs (economic and civil liberties costs). ...................................................................... This is what I also understood Tim's point to be. As long as transforming the whole world into a "kinder, gentler", safer, mix of countries, economies, politics, races, religions, recipes for living, etc., is but a remote possibility in a far-off future galaxy, and knowing that governments are typically unprepared to deal with the dangerous states of mind incited by their very own policies, then (as always) it is wise and adviseable that a person take up some responsibility for preparing themselves, mentally and otherwise, for dealing with threats of terrorism, the kind of which we are all aware of by now. This is not fatalism; it is facing the facts. .. Blanc

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New Member Registration
by coryt＠rain.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Requested Account Name: whitney Requested Password: elbows THIS MEMBER HAS BEEN ADDED TO THE UPDATE LIST

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Announce: Ecash(tm) Software Developer's Kit Beta 2 release
by bryce＠digicash.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- The Ecash(tm) Software Developer's Kit is available now for download from "http://www.digicash.com/api". The major improvement it that it now _accepts_ payments as well as makes them. Accounts at the "Beta Research Bucks" Bank (dc.digicash.com:9666) are available upon request. Here's the README: - ----- begin included README ----- Announce! This is the second beta release of the Ecash(tm) Software Developer's Kit. It includes: * the beta 2 release of ecashlib * a simple test client with source code for reference * a simple TCP/IP library for use with the test client Changes since the last release: * Importantly: The EC_pocket_begin_accept_payment() function works. * Unimportantly: Some internals got upgraded. EC_main_get_ver_string() implemented. Some parameters moved from EC_pocket_new() to EC_pocket_begin_open_account(), which is their natural habitat. A small bug or two was squelched. How to download: Option 1: Menu Visit the directory structure at "http://www.digicash.com/api/distrib" and take whatever you like. Option 2: MRE For Windows (Win32 DLL): "http://www.digicash.com/api/ecashlib.zip" For FreeBSD (static lib): "http://www.digicash.com/api/ecashlib-freebsd.tar.gz" For Linux (shared ELF lib): "http://www.digicash.com/api/ecashlib-linux.tar.gz" For others: e-mail us What do I do next? Visit: "http://www.digicash.com/api" for the latest release. Subscribe to: "ecash-dev(a)digicash.com" for news and views. Send e-mail to: "bryce(a)digicash.com" for developer support. Withdraw from: the BRB Bank dc.digicash.com:9666. You'll have to send us e-mail explaining why we should allocate any of our precious Beta Research Bucks to you, and what you want your account name(s) to be. Create: innovative net applications using Ecash(tm) -- the only secure, privacy-protecting, token-based digital payment system! - ----- end included README ----- Bryce Ahoy! PGP sig ahead! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2i Comment: Auto-signed under Unix with 'BAP' Easy-PGP v1.1b2 iQB1AwUBMd2iNkjbHy8sKZitAQEGbgMAkDRKou6yt5ESqtAvJUsgDpf5xGBw0S8A zTPnC4mwVIFbyo0P8rGaiR434OkmqwkZYtkcg3Bt+6QU5b3lVx7qD0JFNp31PGyn Yn8F7dLmTr8yJhU1aCHHkZjPvwt1IcM5 =iTG3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Shrink-Wrap Lic. uphelo by courts. From Edupage, 4 July 1996
by Hallam-Baker 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Deranged Mutant wrote: > >The latest > ruling found this suggestion to be an onerous burden, but did say the box > must have a notice saying there's a licensing agreement inside, and that > buyers should be able to return the software if they don't agree to the > license once they read it. (Investor's Business Daily 3 Jul 96 A5) Perhaps Prof Froomkin could provide an opinion. It sounds to me however as if the defendants were simply ripping off the copyright of the plaintif and attempting to get arround it by claiming to have "bought" rights to resell along with the software by wrangling over the shrink wrap agreement. Or were the defendants reselling the software unopened to foreign customers via the Internet? Seems to me that that might well be open to further challenge. If a "contract" clause is expressed in a manner that means that it would not be encountered by a party which it attempts to bind there might be argument as to whether acceptance was possible. I suspect that the claims the plaintifs were making lay very definitely within the range of what people in the trade would usually expect to be the licensing terms for software purchased off the shelf. Just as there is an expectation when purchasing a book that one has purchased an instance and not the rights to the copyright. Consider the analogy with purchasing a book that is wrapped in shrink wrap film and that consequently one was unable to read the "all rights reserved" legend. The question that I am interested in is whether someone could claim that a shrink wrap license can bind a user to terms that are less widely expected in the industry. For example clauses which prohibit reverse engineering, transfer to other users etc. Might be interesting to know the precise rulling made and its terms. Phill

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E-cash & G10 in the news
by E. ALLEN SMITH 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

It's interesting but actually unsurprising that they're looking at the cash cards before they are the Internet money exchange stuff. They haven't spotted exactly how much of a difference the latter can make - the former will act about like cash at "worst" from their viewpoint. -Allen > Reuters New Media > _ Friday July 5 12:27 PM EDT _ >G10 mulls effect of E-cash on policy and fraud > ZURICH - The threat of fraud, money laundering and tax evasion from > new electronic payment systems will be high on the agenda of Monday's > monthly meeting of Group of 10 (G10) central bankers at the Bank for > International Settlements (BIS). > The central bank governors will be briefed on two reports that examine > the implication of emerging forms of payment -- electronic purses, > e-cash, cybercash -- on monetary policy and whether it will open the > way to widespread fraud. > With big banks already waging a fierce battle to set a new global > standard for electronic cash, central bankers want to stay on top of a > technology that is not only likely to destabilize monetary aggregates, > but also holds out the promise a cashless society and threatens the > monopoly of central banks to issue notes and coins. > William McDonough, president of the New York Federal Reserve and > chairman of the G10 Committee on Payment and Settlement Systems, will > brief his colleagues on electronic money and fraud, money laundering, > counterfeiting, tax and legal issues. > The other report, to be presented by Charles Freedman, Bank of Canada > deputy governor, explores the issue of electronic money and monetary > policy. > Whether G10 governors take action or merely note the reports and let > them fade into the BIS archives is uncertain. An initial decision will > probably be taken at the meeting. > The two reports will focus mainly on the implications of prepaid cards > rather than so-called network money, cybercash or digital cash as the > latter is less developed. [...] > The concept of electronic money covers a wide range of new payment > methods ranging from multi-purpose, rechargeable prepaid cards, such > as Mondex, to forms of digital cash or cybermoney that enable shoppers > to pay for goods over the Internet. [...] > Copyright, Reuters Ltd. All rights reserved

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C2's Anonymizer in Reuters
by E. ALLEN SMITH 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Not the most friendly of articles... but still pretty good. As usual, edited to stay within fair use. -Allen > Reuters New Media > _ Friday July 5 12:28 PM EDT _ >Web Surfing Incognito > HOLLYWOOD - Ever felt like browsing without leaving those footprints > that site designers, your school and your employer are increasingly > inclined to harvest? > A service being offered at http://www.anonymizer.com purports to give > Web surfers the freedom to travel at will without leaving tell-tale > signs that they've been where they've been. [...] > The visited site's layout and design can be altered, so you are > probably not seeing it in all its glory -- and it is displayed within > a field with hot buttons to take you back to the anonymizer site, a > FAQ or to make a bug report (like, for example, you've reached a site > which isn't preceded by the anonymizer URL). > Privacy is one of those issues veteran Netizens take very seriously -- > it used to be called "anonymous" FTP after all. But many > sites now depend on demographics passively collected, rather than just > the number of hits, to attract advertisers. > Copyright, Reuters Ltd. All rights reserved

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Re: Word lists for passphrases
by Erle Greer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Word-List Builder (this is not an ad) I have a small(5k) program(WordList.EXE) that will extract <words> from any file and append the new words to a textfile(MainList.TXT). It is in early beta, but does the job nicely. I simply drag-n-drop multiple files onto the icon and let it do its dirty work. It prints new words to the screen and echos "." when it encounters old words again. It will, of course, accept parameters from DOS. This is totally free to anyone who wants it. Just email and I will send the latest version. Suggestions are certainly considered. Imagine building a word-list just from your /Netscape/Cache subdirectory! Future versions will include: Larger multiple file handling, *.* in same directory support, better binary file support, and list sorting.

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Re: Net and Terrorism
by vinnie moscaritolo 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Absent the fearmongering, the Viperweenies would >have turned to something else antisocial, buut they wouldn't have had a >"movement" to cling to. (Or maybe they would have... in another era, they >would have joined up with the Weathermen or the Symbionese Liberation Army.) last time I chacked there were at least two Leftist Militia's in the SantaCruz area. (now ain't that a scary thought... Liberals with guns). These people, both Right and Left don't get it. Blowing shit up and running around in the woods with cheap ChiCom rifles palying army does nothing for your cause. It just distances you from the mainstream morons. This makes it easier for the Feds to get away with kicking in your door, gassing your kids and shooting your wives. all in time for the 6PM news. I guess I dont understand this fascination with Militias and woods, Maybe these guys forgot how much fun it was to toast marshmellows in the woods, assuming you have the proper permit from the CA state parks. >Fortunately, and despite what, say, the SWC says in its fundraising >materials, the middle of the road among the militias isn't that kooky. The SWC arent kooks, they are con men >Bo Gritz and the leaders of the Michigan Militia were heard calling the >Freemen >a bunch of lying scum; I've observed more mainstream (if that's the word) >militiafolk distancing themselves from the Viperweenies both online and on >shortwave. Col Gritz actually does have some interesting stuff to say, He is really a very caring guy. But I do think he could use a (better) PR person. I like about 99% of what he has to say, I just filter out the stuff about UN and weather control. (the UN can't even control it's bowels much less the weather). But hey Bo is old enough to take care of himself. >Anyway, I don't think Vinnie was suggesting that the news be censored -- >just that the press doesn't have an obligation to print the obituary the >"martyrs" want. Absolutely. Something like "some asshole terrorist just blew up a building. No cause was sited, is enough" Don't quote thier organization, don;t quote thier cause. just make look like the kook they are. Oh and offering citizens some bounty money for thier hydes is a good idea. Or better yet, when you catch the fuckers, give em a fair trial, and a public hanging. Same goes for terrorists that shoot pregnant women if you know what I mean, but thats my opinion. As for a solution to governement problems, I have always and still belive in the ballot box first. And the only way to win votes is to appeal to the morons out there who do vote.. Maybe there is hope in the next generation of internet literate kids.. or maybe I am just a dreamer. Vinnie Moscaritolo ------------------ "friends come and friends go..but enemies accumulate." http://www.vmeng.com/vinnie/ Fingerprint: 4FA3298150E404F2782501876EA2146A

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Re: hard drive encryption
by Cerridwyn Llewyellyn 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Thank you all for your comments... to those who suggested I remove and hide the drive, I was intending to do so, but still want a way to encrypt it's contents. Call me paranoid... For those who suggested software, thank you, I'll be d/ling and evaluating all of it, and appreciate the varied responses.. //cerridwyn//

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Re: Net and Terrorism.
by attila 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Addressed to: tcmay(a)got.net Cypherpunks <cypherpunks(a)toad.com> ** Reply to note from tcmay(a)got.net 07/04/96 03:22am -0700 = Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 03:22:42 -0700 = To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com = From: tcmay(a)got.net (Timothy C. May) = = Subject: Re: Net and Terrorism. = = At 12:14 AM 7/4/96, snow wrote: = = > Military troops can best be protected by 3 seperate methods: = = > 2) When they _are_ exposed, let them fight the fuck back. Rules of = > engagment are simple. When fired on, shoot to kill. If the shot = > comes from a building, take out the building. If from a crowd, = ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ = = "Colonel, the mission was accomplished. Apparently the sniper was firing = from the 34th floor, so we simply took out the building. There was minor = collateral damage, of course." = unfortunately, that was a modus operandi which I commanded --e.g. if one shoots, waste them all. fortunately, the U.S. SE Asia policies in "denied zones" (we were never there) is no longer in vogue. however, we will probably see that again in parts of the world as many cultures do not have the basic respect for life we do. the first time you witness a small child begging for chocolate exploded by a remote control pressed by her father, you understand --you do not necessarily like it, it's just survival. and faced with a decision of giving up 'n' "friendlies" for 1000n, or even more, to survive, I know where I stood, and still stand. War is hell --and terrorism is war, make no mistake about it. in "black" operations, priority 1 is survival, priority 2 is objective, and accountability is generally not an issue (unless you are out of bounds). = Such overreaction to terrorist events is often precisely what a terrorist = wants, as I've explained a couple of times. = yes, but it is the press, not the commander, who makes the decision to give the terrorist sympathy coverage. basicly: exclude, by whatever means, the press and eliminate the terrorists 15 minutes of fame. = = >> You are essentially making my point, that the biggest danger of the current = >> responses to terrorism is that nations will turn to national terrorism and = >> police state tactics. = > = > I missed that in your original post. = = Well, go back and look for it. The clear point of my post was that the U.S. = should not adopt police state measures so as to reduce terrorism. = no shit; in spades. if the U.S does adopt the police state tactics Bubba is espousing, the U.S. will be faced with _real_ terror, not staged incidents to justify the marial law, etc. if the populace is already disenchanted, absolute loss of freedom will stir to action some very unlikely participants and partners in "brotherhood." = = >> >A third option is quite simply to buy as much of it as possible. = >> No, wouldn't work. As with the "War on (Some) Drugs," all this does is = >> raise the price a bit, actually making it a more tempting market for many = >> to get into. = > = > If the US were to offer Russia $3 billion (or whatever) = >in a one time take it or leave it for their entire chemical weapon stock, = >it might get the soviet shit off the market. The nuclear stuff is a little = >easier to store (I think) and it would be a harder sell. = = As with "buying out" the coca crop in Peru, the poppy crop in Turkey, the = marijuana crop in the dozens of countries, etc., their motto is, obviously = enough, "we'll make more." = The U.S. spooks are still the single largest trafficers in drugs... = Again, the Sarin attack in Tokyo had nothing to do with former U.S.S.R. CBW = weapons. Chemical and biological agents are cheap to make, especially in = the quanties needed to kill only a few thousand people, and in the = non-battlefield delivery environment. = = > I agree tho' that it isn't possible to buy out the market. = = Then why do you float ideas such as buying out the Soviet arsenal if you = think it isn't possible? = U.S. cash has eliminated a lot of Soviet weapons, including, I believe some chemical. however, keep in mind: the obsolete, and expensive to maintain, hardware predominated. However, you will never be able to buy out the religious terrorists --they are on a "mission." The Western world faces far more threat from fundamentalist religious terrorists than it does from the Soviet Union, etc. There is no cure for the "revolutionary" terrorists --just death for their own brand of glory. If we do not even print their obit, there is no glory! = --Tim May = -- Fuck off, Uncle Sam. Cyberspace is where democracy lives!

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