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Re: NYT/CyberTimes on CWD article
by norm＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 9:17 AM 7/6/96, Declan McCullagh wrote: >"We are writers, not crytographers." > >-Declan .... This seems to be an application for Bloom filters. See page bottom of page 561 in Knuth's "Searching and Sorting", First Edition. (Vol 3 of Art of Computer Programming) With a Bloom filter you can hide which URLs you reject yet quickly rejecting particular URLs. Compute SHA(URL) yielding 160 bits. Divide that into 16 ten bit quantities b[i], for 0<=i< 10. Reject the access if P[b[i]] = 1 for each i. P is an array of 1024 bits computed by someone with the index prohibitorum. (pardon my Latin) Yes, this excludes 1/1024 "falsely accused" URLs, but you get the idea.

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Re: Need PGP-awareness in common utilities
by shamrock＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 23:56 7/6/96, bryce(a)digicash.com wrote: >Hm. That might be an interesting addition to my plan, but the >first step is to generate ratings and to consume them at each >individual's mail-handling site. So I, for example, would run a >script every time I received mail (or every hour, or every day, >etc) which looked for ratings certificates, PGP-verified them, >and saved the rating in a database. Then I would run another >script (every time I received mail, or every hour, etc.) which >identified incoming messages and _did_ something to them if >there were sufficient ratings in the database to merit _doing_ >something to them (e.g. delete, promote to a "well-rated" >folder, demote to a "poorly-rated" folder, forward to my >friends, forward to my enemies, etc.). As has been discussed in numberous previous threads on this topic, even a passive rating system is very hard to implement. The computer doesn't know if you hit delete because the post was garbage or because you are running late on some project. An active rating system is virtually impossible to implement, given the added workload on the readers. Good lucky anyway, -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred. Disclaimer: My opinions are my own.

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Re: [RANT] Giving Mind Control Drugs to Children
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 5:02 PM 7/7/96, Robert Hettinga wrote: >Like a lot of pop-psychopharmacology, "syndromes" frequently get defined by >whether the right drug has the desired effect. If prozac works, you're >depressed, if Ritalin does, you're an ADDer, and so on. By Tim's anecdotal >evidence, the little hellion (hey, *I* was one...) must be ADD because >Ritalin works. Probably so, and I think I recall my friend mentioning that this was the kid needed the dose. Whether it's an upper or a downer or whatever is immaterial: it acts as a downer for this kid. A zombie drug, at least on this kid. (And I gather that this is the main effect on the many California schoolchildren who are getting their school-administered doses of mind control drugs.) >You can actually see ADD with a PET scan, but the proper way to get a >diagnosis of ADD is to get tested for it, which, in the case of ADD, is an >expensive man-day or two with with some clinical shrink in your face, and a >bunch of frustrating (if you're ADD) tests of your attention and ability to >focus in the presence of a lot of distractions. Oddly enough, *another* >pop-psychologist from Harvard was on "20/20" this week talking about >"emotional" intellegence, and one of the determinants was inability to >understand delayed gratification. Like most kids with ADD, I must have been >a drooling idiot, in that case. >From what I've read--and I'm no expert, having long had essentially the _opposite_ of "attention deficit disorder," assuming it really even exists!--most children getting Ritalin are just being sedated. Behavior control in its purest form. While the kids stop their wandering attention and constant physical motions, it's because they're in a mental fog, just one step away from drooling. (The 8-year-old friend of my friend's son is so zoned out he can't play video games well at all...until the drugs wear off.) >However, I practically agree with Tim on all of his screed. (A good one, I >might add. He probably only reread it once for punctuation and spelling >before he did a command-e to send it on its way. After wiping the foam >from his mouth, that is. ;-)) It seems to me that the very *last* person to Au contraire, I almost _never_ rework my posts. They are sent out as I write them, just as conversation is not reworked and edited. For an informal list, the conversational mode works best for me. (I get a kick out of John Young's obscure stuff, but if he _talks_ this way, whoah!) >BarelyObCrypto: ADD is more about lack of attention *control* than lack of >attention itself. Hyperfocus is also a trait of ADHD, and computers tend to >cause hyperfocus for a lot of ADDers. How many easily distracted knee-jiggling >wunderkind hackers do *you* know? Care to guess how many ADDers there are >on cypherpunks? BTW, I saw a comment that Bill Gates is almost certainly an ADD person...or maybe the comment was that he is borderline autistic? (I think it was the latter, based on his focus on things, his physical mannerisms, etc. Perhaps growing up in rainy Seattle made him a kind of "rain man.") --Tim May Boycott "Big Brother Inside" software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Re: Word lists for passphrases
by AwakenToMe＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In a message dated 96-07-06 21:46:03 EDT, stend(a)grendel.austin.texas.net (Firebeard) writes: << It's also trivial enough to be done by 99% of the people on cypherpunks in their sleep. As for realy secure systems, they aren't on the net, they don't have dialups, and you access them from vaults. >> Yes. But let me ask you this. Have you done it yet?? I doubt it. And if ya needed it.. and someone had it...wouldnt you just say.. Uh.. OK.. Ill take it rather than spend my precious time on it. Exactly. Later.

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Re: Net and Terrorism.
by James A. Donald 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 09:03 PM 7/6/96 +0500, Arun Mehta wrote: > Once the Soviet menace faded, the same > fighters were branded terrorists. Mixed signals like this are responsible > for much of the animosity that one finds in the Islamic world (possibly even > in other parts of the world) against the US. Some of them *were* and are terrorists. Some of them are not. If Islamic freedom fighters refrained from murdering monks and sixteen year old girls then people would refrain from calling them terrorists. It is not the mixed signals, it is the mixed behavior. The islamic fundamentalists have a thoroughly well deserved reputation for malevolent evil, for rape and the deliberate individual personal murder of women and children as an instrument of terror. While the guys fighting the Israelis in Lebanon are more or less honorable men who fight according to the laws of war, the Islamic fundamentalists in Algeria are simply vicious subhuman monsters who deserve to die, each and every one, and their pals in Egypt and the Sudan are not much better. --------------------------------------------------------------------- | We have the right to defend ourselves | http://www.jim.com/jamesd/ and our property, because of the kind | of animals that we are. True law | James A. Donald derives from this right, not from the | arbitrary power of the state. | jamesd(a)echeque.com

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Re: [RANT] Giving Mind Control Drugs to Children
by David Rosoff 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- At 07.25 AM 7/7/96 -0700, Sandy Sandfort wrote: >On Sun, 7 Jul 1996, Simon Spero wrote: >> Er... Tim... Ritalin is an amphetamine. > >Yes, normally, but doesn't it have a paradoxical reaction for >hyperactive children (i.e., it acts as a depressant for them)? Yes. I once had a friend who took it, and it calmed him down, but after I had known him for a few years, it began to have the opposite effect; and "they" decided he didn't need it anymore. =============================================================================== David Rosoff (nihongo ga sukoshi dekiru) ---------------> drosoff(a)arc.unm.edu PGP public key 0xD37692F9 -----> finger drosoff(a)acoma.arc.unm.edu or keyservers 0xD37692F9 Key fingerprint = 25 7D AA 01 85 41 43 89 50 5A 33 76 F1 F1 99 67 Do you know who's reading your email? ---> http://www.arc.unm.edu/~drosoff/pgp/ Anonymous ok, PGP ok. -------------- If it's not PGP-signed, I didn't write it. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMeAJxhguzHDTdpL5AQGuPAP/T8aBKGwnNSEjv0VW/Kn8+lYgkRPxEB39 1zKPxuAzwfF+dnPpTKp5R5kdGHtv/KvRGhKRQt0V+ocUdAFHVIhI2AghxunUIPjv 9hLbzJx635LwUuHQBAONdV4tzTC6D5MqH+V5WqOWgPWe1Oqa8bHrSiDVdBX31M4P N7T2cii/s3E= =ebXI -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [RANT] Giving Mind Control Drugs to Children
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 06:10 PM 7/7/96 -0700, Timothy C. May wrote: >(As Sandy S. also noted, Ritalin has "paradoxical" effects. (I saw Sandy's >remark after sending off my reply to Simon.)) > >I've _seen_ the kid on Ritalin, and he's zombie. When it wears off, he's >back to being alert and active. Stimulants tend to have an odd effect on children. Instead of making them more active, they tend to do just the opposite. (My daughter used to have that problem with caffiene. Used to put her to sleep.) This makes the situation even more scary, considering how little is known about the brain chemistry of growing children. I am expecting the long term effects of these drugs will be "interesting". (And not in a good way.) I know a woman who was tranq'ed as a kid. She is nice and sweet, cannot dream at all, and is a total and unrepentant sociopath. Your results may vary. --- |"Computers are Voodoo -- You just have to know where to stick the pins."| |"The moral PGP Diffie taught Zimmermann unites all| Disclaimer: | | mankind free in one-key-steganography-privacy!" | Ignore the man | |`finger -l alano(a)teleport.com` for PGP 2.6.2 key | behind the keyboard.| | http://www.teleport.com/~alano/ | alano(a)teleport.com |

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by owner-mblvd＠telebase.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: [RANT] Giving Mind Control Drugs to Children
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 1:14 PM 7/7/96, Simon Spero wrote: >On Sat, 6 Jul 1996, Timothy C. May wrote: >> >> When the mother (a single mother, as this is California) drops her son off >> with my friend (also single, of course), she includes several "Ritalin" >> capsules with instructions on how to dose her son with this >> depressant/behavior modification drug. > >Er... Tim... Ritalin is an amphetamine. Whatever. It acts as a calmant/tranquilizer/depressant on many. (As with many drugs, there are apparently paradoxical effects. Alcohol is a downer for some, and upper for others.) --Tim May Boycott "Big Brother Inside" software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Re: [RANT] Giving Mind Control Drugs to Children
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 3:06 PM 7/7/96, Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote: >Simon Spero <ses(a)tipper.oit.unc.edu> writes: >> Er... Tim... Ritalin is an amphetamine. > >Yes, it's an _anti-depressant, supposedly turning up those pieces of the brain >responsible for "tuning out" outside interference, and letting the hyperactive >kid concentrate. But a true cypherpunk never lets any facts interfere with his >political agenda. Vulis, time to put you back in my killfile. Gratuitous insults, especially those not based on important factual points, is your standard mode. (As Sandy S. also noted, Ritalin has "paradoxical" effects. (I saw Sandy's remark after sending off my reply to Simon.)) I've _seen_ the kid on Ritalin, and he's zombie. When it wears off, he's back to being alert and active. --Tim May Boycott "Big Brother Inside" software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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