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Re: MIT harassed over publication of PGP book
by Carl Ellison 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hal, would such review have any material effect on MIT behavior? I appreciate the point about the sneakiness of the State Dept. However, I can't imagine publication of the next PGP source (or whatever) to be funded by Sandia. I would also hope they would have no fingers into any crypto research. Prior review of crypto research publications is what Adm. Inman wanted back in 1978, in response to which both Cryptologia and ICAR were founded (from my POV). MIT was a strong force in backing NSA down on its attempt to get prior review of publications and I'd hate to see them knuckle under in any way on this point. - Carl

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Singapore
by William "Bud" Kennedy 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

SINGAPORE (ITN) * Singapore announced rules Thursday aimed at blocking anti-government views and pornography on the Internet, adding to the thicket of laws that regulate books, movies and public discussion here. But authorities insisted the latest rules -- one of the first attempts by any country to screen the Internet -- do not amount to censorship. The government will hand out annual licenses to Singapore's three Internet providers, as well as to political parties that maintain Web sites, groups and individuals who run discussion sites on politics and religion, and on-line newspapers. Beginning Monday, these groups will be responsible for blocking out material deemed objectionable by the government. Violations will result in licenses being revoked. "We are not censoring discussion groups. By registering these groups, we are asking that they behave responsibly," said the Singapore Broadcasting Authority, a governmental regulatory body. The free-wheeling global computer link up has provided the Singapore government a major dilemma. Singapore promotes the Internet as part of its objective to make the city of 3 million people the hub of high-tech industry. One in three homes has a computer, and the number of Internet accounts doubled last year to 100,000. A government plan calls for connecting each home to a computer network by 2000. But the Internet has also brought into Singapore what the government had successfully kept out for years -- criticism of the administration and the judiciary, pornography and discussions on race and religion. About 10 SBA officials will surf the net daily for objectionable material. A government-appointed panel of prominent citizens will decide what is objectionable, said Goh Liang Kwang, chief executive of the Broadcasting Authority. But he admitted that even with regulations, the SBA cannot completely police the Internet. "We don't claim we can regulate the Internet. We just don't want objectionable material to be easily available. We want to keep our immediate neighborhood clean," said Goh. Still, a lot of rules remain vague. Although political parties will need licenses, it is not clear if individual politicians would be allowed to post anti-government views on bulletin boards. The SBA guidelines say it will not allow contents that "tend to bring the government into hatred or contempt, or which excite disaffection against the government." The definition of hatred or contempt has not been spelled out. The government will also ban: -- contents that jeopardize public security or national defense. -- anything that ridicules racial or religious groups. -- the promotion of religious deviations or occult practices. -- the "gross exploitation" of violence, nudity, sex or horror. -- the depiction of "sexual perversions" such as homosexuality. All these are already banned from books, magazines, newspapers, movies and public forums.

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Dep. AG Gorelick on CSPAN2 advocating escrow
by Deranged Mutant 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Saw Jamie(?) Gorelick, Dep. Attny Gen. on CSPAN2 talking about needs for key escrow. Emphasized the what if people lose their keys, or someone dies, or if an employee steals company secrets & encrypts them... rather than the usual what if terrorists use crypto line (though she did mention that too). Guess they're taking a new tack to sell it to the public. A lot of bunkum... (project left to the reader how these can be handled in a non-GAK manner). Rob. --- No-frills sig. Befriend my mail filter by sending a message with the subject "send help" Key-ID: 5D3F2E99 1996/04/22 wlkngowl(a)unix.asb.com (root@magneto) AB1F4831 1993/05/10 Deranged Mutant <wlkngowl(a)unix.asb.com> Send a message with the subject "send pgp-key" for a copy of my key.

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Re: A case for 2560 bit keys
by David F. Ogren 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com Date: Sat Jul 13 12:51:36 1996 > On Thu, 11 Jul 1996, Chris Adams wrote: > > > check your setup. I used to run a 386-20 (5MB RAM) and it took about > 3 > > seconds for a 1024 bit key. Given it didn't even have a copro (not > sure > > when/if PGP uses one) and that it was off of a Stackered drive, I'd > > expect you to have much better times. > > That's consistent with the timings I've been getting. It should take > about > 9 seconds to decrypt an arbitrary message with a 2048-bit key with the > setup > you describe. Of course, I usually use X, so that probably does throw > off > the timings a bit. > This is an issue that is connected with the "Need PGP awareness" thread. If everyone is decrypting their messages by hand then nine seconds is a hinderance. On the other hand, if everyone is using an off-line reader that checks signatures/decrypts as it receives messages then nine seconds (or less for a newer machine) is less significant. I'll refrain from making any product plugs here, but I could barely notice the difference moving from a 1024 bit key to a 2047 bit key. - -- David F. Ogren | ogren(a)concentric.net | "A man without religion is like a fish PGP Key ID: 0x6458EB29 | without a bicycle" - ------------------------------|---------------------------------------- Don't know what PGP is? | Need my public key? It's available Send a message to me with the | by server or by sending me a message subject GETPGPINFO | with the subject GETPGPKEY -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBMefUGeSLhCBkWOspAQGuPgf+I2A0a3F6OeBMA9MGUp0ww13Xiq3+LdS4 pOEvhz7Ub1tBUcl5Ko8/y/7pIZE1pZom0fOoyDOD9HX9OrHrY7sDkKbDY2sirfEl dovFKKImIJaMzxDgKhxAdlrmrLq/xrz2rAXv9FvA/KSkCJys/A7ydu9AprKA7Esf E6qRDmQFuuTcNvEVC5WOoDLVQoNZQUe1gVs97YFYFabTMA0bXr8bI/RdHcFy8vIj 51jBSI3Ib2WgcGOa2dKrmU7TRMQk5UHGGxKuKGGgIaOZ4uvPVUmNwHVg9wADbnzX fjkZBvk8/sIqvD4Z4rHWulpHVJxCgKHzVgsh7exCVoZlffITu0SHqw== =kHRX -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Needed: Bay Area "Cracker" for TV Show
by sparks＠bah.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Perhaps we should spam them with responses and encrypt all of them ?? only a small Sunday morning thought ! no reason for a sig... CP wannabe >From: anvil(a)encryption.com >Date: Sun, 14 Jul 96 02:32:20 PDT >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Subject: Re: Needed: Bay Area "Cracker" for TV Show >To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com >Sender: owner-cypherpunks(a)toad.com >Precedence: bulk > > > >On Fri, 12 Jul 1996, Alan Horowitz <alanh(a)infi.net> wrote: >>> July 11th, a San Francisco television reporter called me. He wants to >>> broadcast a story about "crackers". He'd like someone who can describe, >>> on-the-air >> >> >>Hey peachpit >> >>The cartoon news broadcasts are part of the problem, not part of the >>solution. >> > >And apparently they'd like to charge you to *be* part of the problem. I >offer the >following (I'd like to file this under 'clueless', but you never know...) > >=========================================================================== >======= >Return-Path: <patty(a)cyberone.com> >Received: from cyberone.com ([206.102.194.2]) by pulm1.accessone.com >(4.1/SMI-4.1) >id AA23842; Fri, 12 Jul 96 16:32:30 PDT >Received: by cyberone.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) for >anvil(a)ACCESSONE.COM id >TAA21956; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 19:23:20 -0400 >Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 19:23:20 -0400 >From: patty(a)cyberone.com (Patty Elliot) >Message-Id: <199607122323.TAA21956(a)cyberone.com> >Subject: Your site: ENCRYPTION.COM >Apparently-To: anvil(a)ACCESSONE.COM >X-UIDL: 837333887.020 > >Dear Sir, >We are producing the national television series .com hosted by Star Wars > celebrity Mark Hamill. The series airs nationally on CNBC and the Bravo > Network and is all about the Internet and how it is changing the way we do > business. We are reviewing storylines and Web Sites to be featured in >our fall > programming. > > We have featured stories on digital Imaging including Kodak, on-line banking > with Digital Insight, and Healthful On Line Web Sites such The American Heart > Association as well as many others. > > Please take this time to complete this brief questionnaire and we will >consider > your story and Web Site as a feature on the show. If the story or Web >Site fits > our programming requirements, one of our producers will contact you. > > There is a pre-production fee to participate on the show which offsets >some of > the pre-production costs, however we pay for all of the production and post > production costs. > > Please allow us at least one week to review your response and your web site, > Thank-you. > > > > Patty Elliot > Vice President, Programming > > > Questionnaire > > > What is your URL: http://www. _______________________ > > What kind of information is available at your Web Site? > > What is the message you would like to communicate to the viewer? > > What are the most important functions of the Web Site? > > Who are you trying to reach? > > Where are you promoting now? > > Is your company a public or private company? > > How many employees are devoted to managing your web site? > > What sales category would your company fall? > (Less then 1 mill) : > (1-5 mill): > (6-50 mill): > (51-100 mill): > (101 mill +): > > Who is in charge of marketing your Web Site? > > > Name: Title: > > Tel: > > Fax: > > email: > > Address: > > > > >-- >J R Slack I'm not really a cryptographer, I just play one on the Internet. >68 FLH, "In wildness is the preservation of the world" - H.D. Thoreau >63 R60 "In wildness is the preservation of the soul" - H.D. Motorcycles >

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Re: CDT Policy Post 2.27 - No New News on Crypto: Gore Restates
by Deranged Mutant 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On 12 Jul 96 at 18:23, Bob Palacios posted: [Banner Snipped!]] > CDT POLICY POST Volume 2, Number 27 July 12, 1996 [..] > Today's statement is essentially a re-statement of the Clipper III proposal > released in May. Among other things, the Vice President: > > * Called for the liberalization of export controls provided computer > users participate in a "global key management infrastructure" > designed to make personal encryption keys accessible to law > enforcement. This is particularly problematic... if the mainland Chinese gov't requested a key from a N.Amercian or European (or even UN controlled) escrow agency, who is to say it isn't really for political reasons (even though they may claim the persons are drug smugglers)? Or what if the 'crime' was, say, discussing Mormon beliefs, which is illegal in Singapore (and I think Russia as well)? Or what if some terrorist was using keys escrowed in a country that sponsered terrorist acts? --- No-frills sig. Befriend my mail filter by sending a message with the subject "send help" Key-ID: 5D3F2E99 1996/04/22 wlkngowl(a)unix.asb.com (root@magneto) AB1F4831 1993/05/10 Deranged Mutant <wlkngowl(a)unix.asb.com> Send a message with the subject "send pgp-key" for a copy of my key.

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Re: Internet Relay Chat
by AwakenToMe＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

welllllllll all, It really depends on what you do. Hacking IRC can be determined as hacking OPS in a channel... which I can see NO legal frontier in which it crosses. Its more of a battle of wits. Something as simple as finding a server disconnected from the net....making that channel there...and waiting for it to rejoin the net was used to hack OPS on a channel. Now.. that can be something done purely by accident..not realizing the server isnt fully hooked up at the time. Regards, Adam

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Re: Failed mail
by Jean-Francois Avon 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On 13 Jul 96 at 22:22, root(a)mail.demon.net wrote: Could you please explain me why my message was blocked? P.S. any CPunks who could answer my questions below? Please reply by e-mail. Thanks ---------- begin quoted message ------------- > Whilst talking to mist.demon.co.uk: > > MAIL FROM:<jf_avon(a)citenet.net> > 503 Local policy blocks mail from <jf_avon(a)citenet.net> > > ------ Original Message Follows ------ > > Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for iolo(a)mist.demon.co.uk > id 837281345:17284:1; Sat, 13 Jul 96 19:09:05 BST > Received: from cti02.citenet.net ([198.53.26.132]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net > id aa16801; 13 Jul 96 19:08 +0100 > Received: from g34-138.citenet.net by cti02.citenet.net (4.1/SMI-4.1) > id AA13507; Sat, 13 Jul 96 13:17:50 EDT > Message-Id: <9607131717.AA13507(a)cti02.citenet.net> > Comments: Authenticated sender is <jf_avon(a)pop.citenet.net> > From: "Jean-Francois Avon" <jf_avon(a)citenet.net> > Organization: JFA Technologies > To: Edgar Swank <edgar(a)Garg.Campbell.CA.US> > Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 13:13:33 -0500 > Subject: SecureDrive(IDEA), Realdeal and plaintext attack > Reply-To: jf_avon(a)citenet.net > Cc: Iolo Davidson <iolo(a)mist.demon.co.uk>, > Arnoud "Galactus" Engelfriet <galactus(a)stack.urc.tue.nl> > Priority: normal > X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.32) > > Hi! > > I wrote to you the other day to send you my config files (excepted > Galactus). > > Just to refresh your memory: > > I use Secure Drive 1.4a on my data drive. > > While running Win3.11wg (with dos7 with locked drives), I load > realdeal.exe /pers . > > > Question: > > Since realdeal overwrite everything with 0s, and that theses > zeroed sectors are encrypted later with IDEA, will that give an > attacker an edge? The attacker will likely know that there are > large disk areas that contains 0s. > > Any comments? > > Thanks > > jfa > > DePompadour, Societe d'Importation Ltee; Limoges porcelain, silverware and crystal > JFA Technologies, R&D consultants: physicists, technologists and engineers. > > PGP keys at: http://w3.citenet.net/users/jf_avon > ID# C58ADD0D : 529645E8205A8A5E F87CC86FAEFEF891 > > -------- end quoted message ---------------

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Cybank breaks new ground; rejects public-key encryption
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text Sender: e$(a)thumper.vmeng.com Reply-To: Ian Grigg <iang(a)systemics.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: Bulk Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 22:55:43 +0200 From: Ian Grigg <iang(a)systemics.com> To: Multiple recipients of <e$(a)thumper.vmeng.com> Subject: Cybank breaks new ground; rejects public-key encryption This taken from their pages (http://www.cybank.net/cb-encr.htm) --------------------------------- Security and Encryption Cybank software is protected by multiple encryption and identification systems, some can be seen, others are invisible. Cybank cash can be traced back to the original account it belongs to. Cash Keys cannot effectively be modified with disabling them. Because cash keys are also password protected, they can only be created and spent by the authorised account holder. Cybank uses an encryption matrix of 380 characters. Cybank can safely transfer any Cash Key or message from point A to point B via the Internet. Cybank DOES NOT use Public Key Encryption (which has proven to be insecure). Here is a sample encrypted code, see if you can understand it: 193404158201838932119642777371870823541340764 [...] ------------------------------- I wonder if they intend to publish the protocols :-) -- iang iang(a)systemics.com --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "'Bart Bucks' are not legal tender." -- Punishment, 100 times on a chalkboard, for Bart Simpson The e$ Home Page: http://www.vmeng.com/rah/

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Re: Stuffs used for detection
by Remo Pini 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 09:52 PM 7/12/96 +0800, you wrote: >In our school library, there is a depository area wherein you deposit your things and get the tag. Since the library doesn't allow those tags to be brought out from the library, everytime you brought it out and pass by the door, it will alarm. Does anyone know what stuff is that? How come it is alarmed? I brought some metals but it wouldn't alarm... Why those tag would alarm them??? > Most of these systems are made of an oszillator (basically a few windings of a wire with a capacitor: ------ / \ Š--ŠŠ--Š \ / ------ This acts like an ordinary RLC-Oszillator. When you put it in a electrical field with the right frequency, it will effect the field strong enough to be detectable. So, if you shield it, you win. ----------< fate favors the prepared mind >---------- Remo Pini Fon 1: +41 1 350 28 82 mailto:rp@rpini.com Fon 2: +41 1 465 31 90 http://www.rpini.com/remopini/ Fax: +41 1 350 28 84 --------< words are what reality is made of >--------

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