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RE: Inventor of radio... (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > From: Gregory Ellison <gregorye(a)microsoft.com> > Subject: RE: Inventor of radio... > Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 12:02:00 -0700 > > I've heard this decision referred to many times but have been unable to > locate any specifics. Can anyone provide a pointer? You should be able to find it via the patent office webpage. I believe the year was 1985, but I could be wrong. Jim Choate

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Viacrypt PGP version 4.0
by Erle Greer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Is there a free/trial/steal/shareware version of Viacrypt PGP Personal version 4.0, rather than forking over $129.00? /---\ |======================================| / /\/ \ |If a train station is where a train | \ \ / |stops, then what is a workstation? | \ \ / |--------------------------------------| /\ |/| /\ |I am not saying that there are no | / \ |\| / \ |gods; just that I haven't had the | / \|/|/ \ |pleasure to meet one. | --------\-------- |--------------------------------------| / |Disclaimer: My opinions never reflect | \ |that of my employer. | v |======================================| |Please respond via E-Mail; I rarely | |check the newsgroups for responses. | |======================================| | mailto:vagab0nd@sd.cybernex.net | | http://www.sdinter.net/~erleg | | If you think my Sig is big... | |======================================|

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Re: Singapore officials censor U.S. newgroup posting
by jim bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 01:00 PM 7/19/96 -0500, Declan McCullagh wrote: >This move by Singapore to censor a newsgroup posting is a good example of >the overbreadth of government censorship. It's a bait-and-switch maneuver: >say you're going after porn but censor "offensive" speech. >The regulations ban contents that "tend to bring the Government into hatred >or contempt," Isn't it too bad governments don't ban THEIR OWN actions which "tend to bring the Government into hatred or contempt"? After all, I think behind every example of "hatred or contempt" for government, you'll find an act by government which caused it. Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

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Re: Responding to Pre-dawn Unannounced Ninja Raids (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Subject: Re: Responding to Pre-dawn Unannounced Ninja Raids > Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 20:34:34 -0500 (CDT) > From: ichudov(a)algebra.com (Igor Chudov @ home) > It the voltage is 10000 volts, it is always fatal, right? And if you set > good enough resistors, then the voltage for the human body itself would > be much less than 10000V -- most of the voltage will be taken by resistors > themselves. It depends on several things. It is possible using the right combination of frequency and voltage (ie Tesla Coil) to have literaly millions of volts running over your body with no effect. There is an effect of electricity, The Skin Effect, where as the frequency and voltage rise the actual flow of electrons moves to the outer surface of conductors. There is little or no rf current flowing in the center of the wire. Jim Choate

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[noise] Re: Responding to Pre-dawn Unannounced Ninja Raids
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 03:49 PM 7/19/96 -0500, you wrote: >ObCrypto: how about putting an [anti-tank] mine inside your computer. >When ninjas try to get to your files, the computer and [depending on >your bloodthirstiness and load of explosives] ninjas will get >destructed. Has anyone ever done that? Sounds like an interesting way to secure a remailer. (Especially against Scientology raids. "This remailer will self-destruct in five seconds." *BOOM*) There was a case locally where some idiot booby-trapped his cache of weapons and explosives. Seemed a wee bit self-defeating. (Blew all of his explosives all over the place when it finally went off. No one was hurt, but it spread grenades and other choice bits all over the place.) The local kids got alot of souveneers out of that one... <PSA>For more information on these and other ultimate chaotic acts, check out _Agent of Chaos_ by Norman Spinrad. This and other books of an anarchist nature are available from your local library.</PSA> --- |"Computers are Voodoo -- You just have to know where to stick the pins."| |"The moral PGP Diffie taught Zimmermann unites all| Disclaimer: | | mankind free in one-key-steganography-privacy!" | Ignore the man | |`finger -l alano(a)teleport.com` for PGP 2.6.2 key | behind the keyboard.| | http://www.teleport.com/~alano/ | alano(a)teleport.com |

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Re: Responding to Pre-daw
by harka＠nycmetro.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-=> Quoting In:hua@chromatic.com to Harka <=- > > If you want to own guns then you should accept the fact that you risk > > having your head blown off in the middle of the night by a SWAT team. > > Just as the car has introduced the risk of being killed in a trafic > > accident the gun has introduced new risks. If society dosen't like the > > risks then it can opt to ban the technology. > > Except that getting killed in a traffic accident IS an accident (mostly :) > while having black clad Fed's storming into your house was _consciously_ > decided by them, because THEY have a problem with YOUR guns (?!)... In> I think the original point was that they MIGHT storm into your house In> by mistake (say, because they incorrectly accepted a informant's In> story). Therefore, it is truly a mistake. Well, not really. It would be severe case of neglegence which is not the same as a mistake. When you drive, you have to prove that you know what you are doing by getting a driver's licence. If you are a SWAT guy and some informer would come along and say "This and that person is a terrorist, I know for sure" and you go into that house and shoot everything that moves, well, doesn't sound much like an accident to me... Harka ___ Blue Wave/386 v2.30 [NR]

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RE: Reverse Engineer
by Bill Olson (EDP) 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> >What do you mean by "reverse engineer?" I have heard this word several times >especially in the world of hacking, but... can someone tell me what it really >meant? Reverse engineering is process of 'mimicking' the specifications of another product by copying the 'abstract interface' of it. Example: I write a desktop application that greatly increases employee productivity, and it sells like hotcakes. Another company decides that I am gaining too much market share with my product and decides to reverse engineer the product so that they can create a competing product. They hire an engineer who takes the program and analyzes the input and output with a detailed script of test patterns (heaven forbid he might even decompile the program and snoop). By doing so, he now has a complete product specification minus the implementation (i.e. how it works). He then takes the product specification and gives it to another engineer (actually it's done through 'clean' liaisons) who then creates a product that does the exact same thing as mine--but with a different implementation process. Because the product copies the specification and not the implementation, it does not infringe on copyrights or patents.

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Don't "Rush" to Judgment
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 11:51 PM 7/19/96, Hallam-Baker wrote: >The people of the USA fortunately disagree. Its no coincidence that Limbaugh >has been unable to continue his tv show after his coverage of the OKC bombing. Gee, Phill, you might want to hire a new fact-checker, >From the latest issue I have of the Usenet Limbaugh Newsletter: "LIMBAUGH WATCH "July 16, 1996 - It's now 1336 days after Bill Clinton's election, but Rush is still on the air with 650 radio affiliates (with more than 20 million listeners weekly world-wide), 234 TV affiliates, and a newsletter with more than 500,000 subscribers." If you simply make up your facts, say so. --Tim May Boycott "Big Brother Inside" software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Re: Responding to Pre-daw
by Ernest Hua 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> > If you want to own guns then you should accept the fact that you risk > > having your head blown off in the middle of the night by a SWAT team. > > Just as the car has introduced the risk of being killed in a trafic > > accident the gun has introduced new risks. If society dosen't like the > > risks then it can opt to ban the technology. > > Except that getting killed in a traffic accident IS an accident (mostly :) > while having black clad Fed's storming into your house was _consciously_ > decided by them, because THEY have a problem with YOUR guns (?!)... I think the original point was that they MIGHT storm into your house by mistake (say, because they incorrectly accepted a informant's story). Therefore, it is truly a mistake. That said, it is still not justifiable for a SWAT team to FORCE a situation where they may necessarily be in physical danger, and therefore, are forced to respond with overwhelming force when the target may reasonably be innocent. Worse yet, the bureaucrats, whose asses are on the line when a tragic mistake occurs, will rarely, if ever, admit to any wrongdoing. They may be forced out, at worse; there may be a symbolic verbal lynching in front of the Congress, but that would be about it. If such a tragedy were to occur to me, and I were to survive, I would want the responsible PERSONS fully acknowledge their mistakes (and be properly punished). It is a travesty of justice to blame a no-name, faceless "system" as was done in the well-known recent cases (whether or not the target was ultimately found guilty of any misdeeds). Ern

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Re: Netscape 3.0B US version MD5 (was: Re: overseas PGPfone and Netscape)
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 03:27 AM 7/19/96 -0700, you wrote: >Roy M. Silvernail wrote: >> Anyone sniffing the link >> knows the filename from previous forms submissions, anyway. > You can't sniff the link, since the form submission and the > file download are via SSL. Presumably 40-bit RC4 for most users? :-) (It is still strong enought to reduce casual eavesdropping....) # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart +1-415-442-2215 stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com # http://www.idiom.com/~wcs # Confuse Authority!

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