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Re: Digital Watermarks for copy protection in recent Billbo
by Alex F 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Jim Choate <ravage(a)einstein.ssz.com> writes: > You want a continuous Fourier transform, not a discrete one, to > determine the frequency spectrum of the waveform being sampled. > The FFT is simply an algorithm for computing the DFT without > redundant computation. In general, any Lebesgue integrable > complex function will have a Fourier transform, even one with a > finite number of discontinuities. The reverse transform will > faithfully reproduce the function, modulo the usual caveats about > function spaces and sets of measure zero. > Well of course! My thoughts exactly. Great minds think alike. Now, would you mind doing a little translation (for the laymen), since I didn't understand? I appreciate it, Alex F =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Alex F alexf(a)iss.net Marketing Specialist Internet Security Systems =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

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Re: Publicly Verifiable Anonymous Voting System
by Arun Mehta 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 08:53 27/07/96 -0700, JonWienk(a)ix.netcom.com wrote: >Here is the how the voting system works. > >1. All voting information (public keys, ballots, ballot signatures, etc.) is >publicly available via a Web site or other similar means, and can be downloaded ... One problem with such a system is sheer complexity. Even an illiterate person must be convinced of the transparency of the system, i.e. that his/her vote "counts". In the conventional system, where you mark a piece of paper that goes into a locked box watched over by reps of the rival parties, which you can subsequently view being opened and processed, you intuitively understand how the system works. This was one of our arguments (not, admittedly, our strongest) against electronic voting when they sought to introduce it in 1989 for the Indian federal elections -- further details on http://www.cerfnet.com/~amehta/evmsunob.htm Arun Mehta Phone +91-11-6841172, 6849103 amehta(a)cpsr.org http://www.cerfnet.com/~amehta/ finger amehta(a)cerfnet.com for public key

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Re: your favorite poison recipes
by Vinnie Moscaritolo 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Anonymous writes: >Please post your favorite poison recipes to this mlist. I'd have to say Federal Match in.308, Lead poisoning -- Long distance. martian Minow writes: > >Rare roast beef, baked potato with plenty of butter, red wine. > Martin; last time I checked you were a trickle down vegaterian too. Vinnie Moscaritolo ------------------ "friends come and friends go..but enemies accumulate." http://www.vmeng.com/vinnie/ Fingerprint: 4FA3298150E404F2782501876EA2146A Expanded Recipient List:

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Re: A Libertine Question
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:21 PM 7/29/96, Charley Sparks wrote: >My opinions are just that, MINE but here's a question .. > >In the event that drugs are legalized like alcohol ( also a drug >) and tobacco and cafeine, who will take responsibility for >housing and feeding those, who are now blameless, individuals >who can't or won't take responsibility for themselves and work >or whatever. With freedom and liberty come a lot of >responsibility. Too many people today balme every damn thing in >the world for their problems - and get away with it.... "No one." Who takes responsibility when people fail to save enough of their paycheck to last them through the month? Who takes responsibility when people drink too much, miss work, and are fired? And so on. Drugs are no different from ethanol. We tried outlawing ethanol, and eventually came to our senses. Many of us--on all sides of the ideological spectrum--think the same is inevitable with other drugs. The issue of "who takes care of" people who can't hold their liquor, or who overeat, or who smoke too much, does not enter into the equation. (Though there are pathological examples of cases where insurance companies are trying to sue tobacco companies for the costs incurred because of smoking by policyholders. A bad, and, I think, dreadfully abusive, use of the court system.) --Tim May Boycott "Big Brother Inside" software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Re: e$: The Demographic "Transaction" (was Re: Schelling Points...)
by Bart Croughs 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At monday 29 july, Arun Mehta wrote: >As I see it, having more children makes sound economic sense when >you have child labor. You feed the child for 4-5 years, after >which it contributes financially to the family for the rest of >its short life. More stringent enforcement of anti child-labor >legislation would help. Increase in life expectancy is also good, >because then you need fewer children as insurance. The only effect of more stringent enforcement of anti child-labor legislation is to harm the children involved. You may think that the millions of families in Third World countries who are too poor to provide for their children, will be magically become rich enough to send their children to school once the anti child-labor legislation will be enforced. This is not the case. When the factories don't want the children anymore because of the government regulations, the children will simply be working in other places - at home, in the streets. And this is work that pays less. Child labour in the West didn't stop because of anti child-labour laws; it stopped the moment the people became rich enough to provide for their children, thanks to the capitalist revolution in the 18th & 19th century. The same path will have to be followed by the Third World countries today. >The spread of the Internet, and the ability to post anonymously >should help in exposing instances of violation of child-labor >laws, and increasing outrage. Hopefully, it will also make it >easier to spread literacy, which is arguably the best way to keep >population down. Instead of posting to the net to increase outrage about the violations of harmful child labour laws, you better begin posting to the net to increase outrage about the socialist governments in the Third World that keep their populations in poverty. I suggest you read the books of C. Nardanelli: 'Child labour and the industrial revolution' , and F. Hayek (ed): 'Capitalism and the historians'. Bart bart.croughs(a)tip.nl

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Re: Usenet Conference on Security
by frantz＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 8:34 PM 7/26/96 -0400, Perry E. Metzger wrote: >As an aside, the stuff Datafellows is selling is, I believe, a >commercial version of SSH, which is very good stuff. Its a full >replacement for the whole berkeley "r" utilities using strong crypto >(public key and conventional) for authentication and privacy. Does >rlogin, rsh, redirects X sessions, slices and dices, etc. Really >spiffy. In addition to SSH, I also picked up a flyer for "F-Secure Desktop", a disk encryption package for Windows. Sorry I didn't pick up their "what we sell" flyer. You should be able to get that information from http://www.datafellows.com or f-Secure-sales(a)datafellows.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | Cave ab homine unius lebri | Periwinkle -- Consulting (408)356-8506 | [Beware the man of one | 16345 Englewood Ave. frantz(a)netcom.com | book] - Anonymous Latin | Los Gatos, CA 95032, USA

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what's a weapon? (fwd)
by David Lesher 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

------- Forwarded Message ==================================================================== Newsletter of the IEEE Computer Society's TC on Security and Privacy Electronic Issue 16 July 28, 1996 Carl Landwehr, Editor Hilarie Orman, Assoc. Editor ==================================================================== ... Drawing an analogy with encryption and US ITAR, a poster reported that A piper is being taken to court for practicing on Hampstead Heath, which has a by-law forbidding music. Mr Brooks, the piper, has denied the charge. He claims he wasn't playing a musical instrument, but practicing with a weapon. In 1746 in England, bagpipes were declared to be instruments of war, not musical weapons, and a subsequent Act of Parliament specifically stated that they were weapons. -- A host is a host from coast to coast.................wb8foz(a)nrk.com & no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433 is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433

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Re: Feinstein wants controls on Internet, Books
by declan＠well.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Feinstein today introduced an amendment revisiting her 1995 net-censorship amendment tacked onto the anti-terrorism bill. Seeks to ban bomb-making info from the Net and is being marketed in those words, but is not Net-specific. -Declan >One of my senators, Senator Dianne Feinstein, is now arguing on CNN for >controls on information put on the Internet, on censorship of books and >articles describing how pipe bombs work, and for making it easier to get >wiretaps against those suspected of committing thought crimes. > >One or two more major incidents on top of the recent ones (World Trade >Center, Oklahoma City, Dharan, TWA 800, and Olympic Village) and I suspect >Congress will simply vote to repeal the Bill of Rights and just be done >with this whole experiment in liberty. > >--Tim May > >Boycott "Big Brother Inside" software! >We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. >---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- >Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, >tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero >W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, >Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments. >"National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Re: e$: The Demographic "Transaction"
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Before I get started, let me point out that the "demographic transition" is standard fare in sociology classes. Lots of stuff on the Web about it (do a search of that string with Alta Vista, for example, and you'll see 1000 hits). At 7:37 PM 7/29/96, Bart Croughs wrote: >At monday 29 july, Arun Mehta wrote: > > >>As I see it, having more children makes sound economic sense when >>you have child labor. You feed the child for 4-5 years, after >>which it contributes financially to the family for the rest of >>its short life. More stringent enforcement of anti child-labor >>legislation would help. Increase in life expectancy is also good, >>because then you need fewer children as insurance. > >The only effect of more stringent enforcement of anti child-labor >legislation is to harm the children involved. You may think that the >millions of families in Third World countries who are too poor to provide >for their children, will be magically become rich enough to send their >children to school once the anti child-labor legislation will be enforced. >This is not the case. When the (end quote...Bart, your lines are apparently way longer than 72-80 characters!) What I want is for the world's billions of children to have mandated benefits comparable to what the children of the elite in America have! And if there is not enough money to pay for this standard of living, we can just print more! (I would never let _my_ children, Biff and Buffy, interrupt their tennis camp experiences by working a job for less than what they will eventually earn as management coaches and wellness advisors, and I will work to ensure that children in Third World nations are not similarly disgraced by doing manual labor. And if they and their families go hungry as a result of my principles, they will have won the moral victory. And a few of them might even advance to the finals at Forest Hills!) --Tim May P.S. Since many on the CP list seem to miss signals, this piece reflects my views that the current outrage over "child labor" will merely end up killing a bunch of children who otherwise might have earned enough to eat. Food is not simply distributed for free, and if children cannot find work in Kathy Lee's Sweatshop Apparel Factory, and assuming that "tennis camps" are not the alternative, the effect of First World holy righteousness will be killing off a lot of these kids. Maybe not such a bad thing, given the 7 billion world population. Even better, of course, would be adopting a laissez-faire approach. Me, I wear linen/cotton shirts produced in Bangla Desh, probably by hordes of poorly-paid Bengalis. But, since the likely alternative for them is sitting in the mud swatting horseflies and watching the water buffaloes until starvation eventually claims them, I feel great about wearing "slave labor-produced" goods! And why can't we work to outlaw the "manufacturing sector jobs" in the U.S. economy, the ones that only pay $22 an hour for boring labor? After all, $22/hour is hardly enough to send Biff and Muffy to tennis camp, let alone the proper prep schools, let alone the $250K needed to send them to a good Ivy League school. These blue-collar workers are being exploited by the capital class and need to be liberated from these jobs. Let them eat cake. --Tim May Boycott "Big Brother Inside" software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Re: "Soft Targets" as Schelling Points
by eli+＠gs160.sp.cs.cmu.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tim May writes: >The connection should be clear, but in case it is not: many soft targets >are Schelling points for terrorist actions. I see no coordination problem here. Schelling points are a useful concept when you have several actors, each of whom benefits from making the same choice as the others. Here, I think you want to say "soft targets are easy to attack". -- Eli Brandt eli+(a)cs.cmu.edu

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