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Re:NT remailer
by David E. Smith 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com Date: Sat Aug 17 20:37:49 1996 > At 21:08 8/16/96, rednax wrote: > >Speaking of NT, I downloaded the full version of msie 3.0 the other day > but > >when I tried installing it, an error message came up saying that it > requires > >a Win95 or WinNT4.0 build of 1381 or higher. I am currently running NT > 4.0b > >that has a build of 1314, does anyone know of where is the upgrade or > >service packs(if available)? I have tried looking around microsoft.com, > but > >they neither provided any detail nor did they provide an e-mail. 1381 is the full release version of NT 4.0 - there probably isn't an upgrade or service pack. You'll have to lay down your cash just like the rest of us poor slobs. dave - ---- David E. Smith POB 324 Cape Girardeau MO USA 63702 dsmith(a)prairienet.org http://www.prairienet.org/~dsmith send mail of 'send pgp-key' subject for my PGP public key "Welcome to the human race." -- Snake, _Escape from L.A._ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Automagically signed with Pronto Secure for Windows. iQEVAwUBMhZz8DVTwUKWHSsJAQEelQf+I7iHCNOwFnYn94uvxuczY0PTYP5nU9dp nQXVbdlVNO+vZH4y+9CLEhoaNbD+BLxSaULk6nAIUmvwyL9dniKJ9wmcUsAoJrk0 ML/najbDHQJ8BsSbV9ivyLJZxwwnCGmLHwcvchJtppLdXzkKFO0EwvY0LGtim4CZ uWjhKlI6rUo9trHeLtPCn/RuQheaT4x4I7TEA4OZkP46DnWRl/4288MPAcL4SxUO ojt/Bw8eAxhNOeBhuj7s2UaFmfCejH6ml1jLI/b7+a9tUvDnq8hPMlRAyVDzkj4I n9kHLvO0spjweXWNgj2NqDHfu2Ygtz+vMlpXJN4FUX++aYOlMOvytQ== =kUCL -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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[NOISE] Re: Greetings from Whore.com
by Daniel Miskell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Nope. No web access. However, when school is back in session, and I get my radio show back and head back to the computer labs... <cackles evilly> Greetings from <property not found>, Daniel.

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Re: Protecting floating datahavens?
by Sean Sutherland 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- To: stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com, cypherpunks(a)toad.com Date: Sat Aug 17 20:15:22 1996 > The basic risks with such things are: > 1) Getting governments to agree to leave you alone. If you're doing a > 2) Getting governments and other pirates to actually leave you alone. > 3) Making it work financially, for the proprietors and tenants/co-owners. > 4) Convincing investors that you're safe enough on 1) and 2) Auctually, the one real big problem is that the data is all in one place. Rememeber that the whole point of a data haven isn't secure backup -- it's secure storage. And if the place gets blown sky-high (which can easily be done discreetly and possibly made to look like an accident), all the data is going to be lost, and you're basically screwed. The only workable solution to this that I can see has nothing to do with floating countries or anything of the sort. Instead, the use of data-splitting programs could be used. I'm not all up on the security or reliability of these programs, so if I'm making unwarranted assumptions, guess I did a lot of typing for nothing. This has probably been proposed before, too, but what the hey... For example, lets say you set up an office in 100 countries (it would be more effective to have more, but let's say 100). Through the use of anonymous remailers and encryption, he could apply for a customer ID number and password. To avoid any possibility of forgery, such IDs could be prehaps 100kb-1Mb (this is just for confirmation of identy when sending the data into the data havens -- shorter IDs would be used for identifcation). Then, he could split the program into 100 parts, with (say) 70 parts being needed to restore the entire file. He would then encrypt and send each of these files to each remailer through the Internet. To get the data back, he would send in the ID and password, encrypted again, to the nessecary number of offices in order to retrieve the data. Payment, if nessecary, could be made by anonymous bank transfer or something like ecash. Proprietary encryption systems (PGP-like, with IDEA/RSA hybrid in it, but can accept 5000+ bit keys and padding) might be used, as well. This scheme has several pluses. One, it doesn't rely on any fancy legal manuevering with off-shore nationalities and crap. Second, it isn't very vunerable. They would need to get legal jurisdiction in 70 different countries to sieze the data, and then they have the encryption to deal with. Third, if there's any server problems, it wouldn't affect the entire system. Fourth, you don't have to attach missle launchers and hire a private security force to defend it. There are several problems, though. First, it relies on the Internet, something which is inherantly insecure anyway. Second, if someone's being wiretapped in their own country, then the whole effort is in vain. Third, it would be incredibly costly, but probably no more so than any kind of off-shore platforms. In fact, it would probably be cheaper. Any comments? - --- Sean Sutherland | GCS/C d- s+:+ a--- C+++ V--- P L E- W++ N++ K w o O-(++) Key: E43E6489 | M-- V PS+ PE++ Y PGP++ t--- 5+++ X++ R b++ DI+ D+ G e- Vote Browne '96 | h! !r y -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Key: finger or email w/ 'send key' in subj. http://www2.interconnect.net/maverick iQEVAwUBMhZuq1ZoKRrkPmSJAQE9QQf7B+ikk1/dFKyydIzQkGcfX8+srK5GeRlr 5IhEFkXJY34dI4Dqg/yKQ6m/XwRMyqPHxcyV6lR6qU9ngaawBWjd1Q+HBtCOzEs6 Ch8AgTq5CWox8/7FZKz32xGJCVpPJ+etzeJSK2kqKfPnTW+yhz7rch+DIvEJKnM1 ktlxsi/3c1Hn89OLZrCHUeJQqBMoU7rVnmVv6sfGVUQuwJ09yWT457HCN7dZbH1z Nrc+w7ewlxivH1r6KZ1DNk8BJrroQXD7mSHvXmEwyTiyr9DzaPhtlllarz/iPNFF 295F/4Cj9K2HiwJfKH7pDy60OKLBGP72xnc0cjxj8TlIp/KDY7VsPQ== =BNfl -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Orbiting Datahavens
by Ross Wright 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Or About 17 Aug 96, 5:24, Brian C. Lane wrote: > > How about an orbiting DataHaven. No jurisdiction to bother with, > extremely difficult to get to (except by large governments...). <SNIP> > it would work. Might even be cheaper than outfitting the oil-rig > with the rate that they are tossing satellites into space. > > If the HAM radio community can get a satellite into space, why not > the > Cypherpunks/Linux communities? This is a fascinating concept that needs to be further researched. It would be interesting to do some cost examinations. I have always been behind any private space programs! I am even behind the Govt. Programs. Ross Wright King Media: Bulk Sales of Software Media and Duplication Services http://www.slip.net/~cdr/kingmedia Voice: 415-206-9906 Ross Wright King Media: Bulk Sales of Software Media and Duplication Services http://www.slip.net/~cdr/kingmedia Voice: 415-206-9906

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anonymizer and cookies
by jfricker＠vertexgroup.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

is there anything definite about the Anonymizer and cookies? according to the DEC browser tester at http://www.research.digital.com/nsl/formtest/stats-by-test/NetscapeCookie.h… shows some successful cookies passing through www.anonymizer.com and some bad cookies. What's the final word?

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Final release of Navigator (with strong crypto) now available
by Jeff Weinstein 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The final release of Navigator 3.0, complete with non-exportable strong crypto, is now available for download by US citizens. Note that this is the released version of 3.0, so it will not expire. You can get it from: http://wwwus.netscape.com/eng/US-Current/ --Jeff -- Jeff Weinstein - Electronic Munitions Specialist Netscape Communication Corporation jsw(a)netscape.com - http://home.netscape.com/people/jsw Any opinions expressed above are mine.

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Hackers invade DOJ web site
by Mike McNally 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

CNN online (http://www.cnn.com) is reporting a "breakin" by "hackers" to the DOJ web site. They don't elaborate exactly how thy did it. ______c_________________________________________________________________ Mike M Nally * Tiv^H^H^H IBM * Austin TX * For the time being, m5(a)tivoli.com * m101(a)io.com * <URL:http://www.io.com/~m101> * three heads and eight arms.

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Re: Final release of Navigator (with strong crypto) now available
by Lou Zirko 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- To: jsw(a)netscape.com, cypherpunks(a)toad.com, tomw(a)netscape.com Date: Sat Aug 17 21:26:37 1996 Thanks for the info. Downloading now and it appears to be going more smoothly than the time I got beta 6. No delays and good throughput. And I have yet to talk with someone that has successfully downloaded the `other guys` 128-bit version. I sure have not been able to! Thanks, Lou Zirko > The final release of Navigator 3.0, complete with non-exportable > strong crypto, is now available for download by US citizens. Note > that this is the released version of 3.0, so it will not expire. > You can get it from: > > http://wwwus.netscape.com/eng/US-Current/ > > --Jeff > > -- > Jeff Weinstein - Electronic Munitions Specialist > Netscape Communication Corporation > jsw(a)netscape.com - http://home.netscape.com/people/jsw > Any opinions expressed above are mine. > > Lou Zirko (502)383-2175 Zystems lzirko(a)c2.org "We're all bozos on this bus" - Nick Danger, Third Eye -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: latin1 iQEVAwUBMhZ/dstPRTNbb5z9AQEIggf/d0Q53oNSB3gM2Kk0XMsZhQVVd1gqYfoS sK1Ja5Qy6wqpzX452oEO21qetQsjs6yW19T3PdLqfr+YZW0zTbOcsbmUoNnzs8xF +2hfKdtRiMeZRo1HpKZ1kx3SUGR9SCLymVV0mWecOpwpdnj8i69K8Xv3eEEhbX4S aQJakxjr/qmjOtW5k5iuU93eosdhXjsHCkICY75YzuwX/VtkN3tMU28jsuYXGokf LjxuXBoTi/1+U80iSlCLYwXFrwoeZ+FTc2NACRPDJnAnLX4GbatLlLbP92918Xvt SeiVEeia46WQqRbJRHMnlif2z3gn1Fit0qdgn1U7f59aKUVgKQu95Q== =LIdQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Possible opportunity for school recruitment
by E. ALLEN SMITH 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

One wonders if they could be persuaded, in return for a donation of money or time, to include some cypherpunks-related web pages; these could include ones on PGP and on anonymous remailers, so they could later get email & ftp access and use these. -Allen > Centura > CYBERED BIG RIG TRUCKS INTERNET ACCESS TO SCHOOLS > Copyright &copy 1996 Nando.net > Copyright &copy 1996 Los Angeles Daily News > LOS ANGELES (Aug 17, 1996 00:00 a.m. EDT) -- Like some futuristic, > hi-tech bookmobile, "Ed" came calling on Charles Maclay Middle School > in suburban Los Angeles. [...] > The privately funded CyberEd program is designed to provide hands-on > Internet experience and advanced, on-line communications training. > "Ed" -- a veritable cyber classroom on wheels, offers personal > computers, Internet connectivity and CD-ROMS, as well as presentation > facilities, printing, faxing and video conferencing capabilities. [...] > Inside the yellow-and-black big rig in the Pacoima section of Los > Angeles, children and teachers alike tried their hand at surfing the > Net, pointing and clicking and generally immersing themselves in > everything from home pages of fellow students to cyberchats with > astronauts at the National Aeronautics and Space Administration > headquarters in Houston. [...] > Plank said a $3 million fund-raising campaign was under way to > bankroll a fleet of rigs modeled after "Ed," each with a different > technological focus -- manufacturing, media, biotechnical and other > disciplines. > CyberEd is funded by the MCI Foundation, the William G. McGowan > Charitable Fund, DSC Communications Corp., Milken Family Foundation, > Corning Incorporated and Microsoft. > Copyright &copy 1996 Nando.net

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MD5 completely broken!
by ichudov＠algebra.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Cypherpunks -- Atfer much scientific research, I have finally found a way to restore any message given only its MD5 checksum. The method is based on the so called "enthropy restoration" algorithm. I have also written a libMD5hack library for restoring messages given their MD5 checksums. I plan to license the library for commercial use. The price of the library is to be determined. - Igor.

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