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[tahoe-lafs-weekly-news] TWN 33
by Patrick R McDonald 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 ===================================================== Tahoe-LAFS Weekly News, issue number 33, June 11 2012 ===================================================== Welcome to the Tahoe-LAFS Weekly News (TWN). Tahoe-LAFS_ is a secure, distributed storage system. `View TWN on the web`_ *or* `subscribe to TWN`_. If you would like to view the "new and improved" TWN, complete with pictures; please take a `look`_. .. _Tahoe-LAFS: https://tahoe-lafs.org .. _View TWN on the web: https://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/wiki/TahoeLAFSWeeklyNews .. _subscribe to TWN: https://tahoe-lafs.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tahoe-lafs-weekly-news .. _look: https://tahoe-lafs.org/~marlowe/TWN33.html Announcement and News ===================== TWN Moves to Mondays - -------------------- Sorry for failing to post a TWN last week. Unfortunately both of my children were sick with a stomach bug and they take priority. They are much doing fine now, but loved Saturdays with Dad. As such, Saturdays are now theirs and TWN has been moved to Mondays. I apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. LAFS-RPG on Tor Hidden Service - ------------------------------ Markus Reichelt |markus| provided a fantastic concept of running lafs-rpg on a `Tor`_ hidden service. While the grid itself is not on the Tor network, users may access the grid through the hidden service helping to provide the users anonymity for the grid owners. At my request Markus was kind enough to provide a `HOWTO`_ with sample configuration files. Please note, there appears to be an issue when access the service via `tor2web`_. Markus was also kind enough to provide a `live PoC`_. Please note, you will need to use the Tor network to access this PoC. .. |markus| image:: markus.jpg :height: 35 :alt: Markus .. _`Tor`: https://torporject.org .. _`HOWTO`: http://mareichelt.com/pub/mine/tahoe-lafs/lafs-rpg-tor-hs.html .. _`tor2web`: http://tor2web.org/ .. _`live PoC`: http://27jplscnzqi2sser.onion/ Glowing Quotes ============== b Absolutely, I've been very impressed with Tahoe-LAFS, both the underlying concepts and ideas and the implementation (I was playing with it just yesterday). It's fast, reliable, and has been making steady progress.b b Mourad De Clerck Tahoe-LAFS on Twitter ===================== I still want to organize a Tahoe-LAFS Unit Test Writing Party. Somebody give me a little encouragement here! http://identi.ca/url/70271963 [`0`_] @sameerverma @koolhead17 I'd like to see a Juju charm to manage Tahoe-LAFS instances. Seems pretty simple.. [`1`_] .. _`0`: https://twitter.com/zooko/status/210139741386055680 .. _`1`: https://twitter.com/zooko/status/209190319147851777 - From the tahoe-dev Mailing List =============================== Exception in tahoe deep-check - ----------------------------- Brad Rupp experienced `an exception when running tahoe deep-check`_. The exception occurred with Tahoe-LAFS 1.9.1. Brian |brian| suggested the issues might be similar to `#1676`_ and `#1689`_. If this is correct, the developers resolved the issue in trunk two months ago and it will be part of the upcoming 1.9.2 release. Resurrecting MojoNation - ----------------------- Jack Byer expressed interest in `resurrecting Mojo Nation`_. `MojoNation`_ was the creation of Evil Geniuses for a Better Tomorrow. Their ranks included Bram Cohen of BitTorrent fame and our very own Zooko |zooko|. MojoNation provided the ability for users to set prices for any service which their node might offer and for clients to bid on services they desired. Inspired by `a discussion on BitcoinTalk`_ discussing a currency-based filesharing network, Jack wishes to discuss whether it would be practical to reintroduce the idea of market-based computing resource allocation. .. _`an exception when running tahoe deep-check`: https://tahoe-lafs.org/pipermail/tahoe-dev/2012-June/007413.html .. |brian| image:: warner.png :height: 35 :alt: Brian Warner :target: http://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/wiki/AboutUs .. _`#1676`: https://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/tickets/1676 .. _`#1689`: https://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/tickets/1689 .. _`resurrecting Mojo Nation`: https://tahoe-lafs.org/pipermail/tahoe-dev/2012-June/007416.html .. _`MojoNation`: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mojo_nation .. _`a discussion on BitcoinTalk`: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=86384.0 Patches Needing Review of the Week ================================== There is one (1) ticket still needing review for 1.9.2: * `#1115`_: add servers-of-happiness to reports (post-repair says 10 hosts have good shares but there only 4 hosts) There are six (6) ticket still needing review for 1.10.0: * `#166`_: command line order is problematic * `#937`_: 'tahoe run' doesn't work for an introducer node * `#1539`_: stop putting pkg_resources.require() into .tac files * `#1159`_: stop using .tac files: make it possible to change appname, Python package-directory name, perhaps other names * `#1693`_: flogtool doesn't get automatically provided * `#1240`_: add functional test of ResponseCache in favour of MDMFSlotReadProxy's cache There are two (2) tickets still needing review of 1.11.0: * `#1265`_: New Visualizer is insufficiently labelled/documented (plus layout problem) * `#1382`_: immutable peer selection refactoring and enhancements .. _`#1115`: http://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/ticket/1115 .. _`#166`: http://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/ticket/166 .. _`#937`: http://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/ticket/937 .. _`#1539`: http://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/ticket/1539 .. _`#1159`: http://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/ticket/1159 .. _`#1693`: http://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/ticket/1693 .. _`#1240`: http://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/ticket/1240 .. _`#1265`: http://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/ticket/1265 .. _`#1382`: http://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/ticket/1382 - ---- *The Tahoe-LAFS Weekly News is published once a week by The Tahoe-LAFS* *Software Foundation, President and Treasurer: Peter Secor* |peter| *. 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FC: House will vote on bill to regulate online campaign advertising
by Declan McCullagh 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,45138,00.html Mulling Reins on Net Campaigns By Declan McCullagh (declan(a)wired.com) 2:00 a.m. July 11, 2001 PDT WASHINGTON -- The House of Representatives is scheduled to vote Thursday on a campaign finance bill that would, for the first time, regulate Internet advertisements and e-mails targeted at voters. The new rules aimed at online political activity are part of a Republican effort to overhaul U.S. election law that has received little scrutiny -- which, if enacted, would roil the fast-growing online campaign industry and impose obstacles on candidates' use of the Internet. Jonah Seiger, co-founder of Mindshare, a 16-person Internet consulting firm in Washington, said he understands why the legislation was written to cover "any communications" directed at voters, and not just traditional methods. "But I hope Congress would understand what they're doing," Seiger said. "The unintended consequences of sloppy legislation could make it more difficult to use the Internet and make it less effective as a political communications medium." On Thursday, the House will consider a campaign finance plan patterned after a bill backed by Sen. John McCain (R-Arizona) that the Senate has already approved. That proposal, H.R.2356, covers only political communications sent by broadcast, satellite, cable or the U.S. mail, and does not apply to the Internet. But the version that House Republicans will offer as an alternative is far broader in one important way: It regulates "any" paid communication -- including Internet communication -- that mentions a candidate for federal office. Anyone who makes such a communication, not just political parties or candidates, would be required to keep careful records and count online spending toward a $50,000 limit that would trigger a filing with the federal government. The bill's drafters say they intended to regulate the burgeoning world of Internet politics but predicted the legislation's impact would be limited. Roman Buhler, counsel to the House Administration Committee, said "when we thought about the Internet we doubted that the cost of Internet messages, such as bulk e-mails, would rise to that level.... It was our sense that bulk e-mails would not approach the $50,000 threshold." (The bill does count e-mail spending toward the $50,000 trigger point.) "A banner ad would be a form of mass communication, and they would have to disclose," Buhler said. Ken Nealy, a press secretary for bill sponsor Rep. Albert Wynn (D-Maryland), refused to speak on the record. When asked in person what effects the bill would have on the Internet, Nealy declared that the conversation was over and left the room. [...] ------------------------------------------------------------------------- POLITECH -- Declan McCullagh's politics and technology mailing list You may redistribute this message freely if you include this notice. To subscribe, visit http://www.politechbot.com/info/subscribe.html This message is archived at http://www.politechbot.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- End forwarded message -----

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[wearables] Nokia cellular cameras
by Mr Ellis Weinberger 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

Nokia sell cameras which contain motion sensors, temperature sensors, microphones, and cell phones, and which can send sms, mms, and smtp messages: Nokia Observation Camera: http://www.nokia.com/nokia/0,,4654,00.html Nokia Remote Camera: http://www.nokia.com/nokia/0,,63911,00.html -- Mr Ellis Weinberger | West Road | t: (+44) (0)1223 333054 Research Associate | Cambridge | f: (+44) (0)1223 333160 Cambridge University Library | CB3 9DR | e: ew206(a)cam.ac.uk url: http://www.cus.cam.ac.uk/~ew206/ ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07078, 11.61144 http://www.leitl.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE http://moleculardevices.org http://nanomachines.net [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature]

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The Genius and Struggle of PayPal
by Mises Daily Article 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

<http://www.mises.org/articles.aspx> The Genius and Struggle of PayPal by William L. Anderson <http://www.mises.org/fullstory.aspx?Id=1710>[Posted January 4, 2005] The PayPal Wars: Battles with eBay, the Media, and the Rest of Planet Earth. Eric M. Jackson, World Ahead Publishing, Los Angeles, California, 344 pages, $27.95. Almost five years have passed since the heady days of the dot.com boom, an era that began as the "New Economy" and ended in yet another recession and the collapse of stock prices that in 1999 seemed to have no upward limits. In hindsight, we can see that the "New Economy" was nothing more than the shotgun wedding of the obvious commercial possibilities of the Internet and the irresponsible, expansionary monetary policies of Alan Greenspan's Federal Reserve System, not a marvelous invention created by Bill Clinton through the magic of raising income tax rates. That the dot.com boom turned into a bust does not take away from many of the real success stories of that time, one of them being the emergence of PayPal, which helped revolutionize the way payments could be made using the Internet. The original vision that the creators of PayPal (Peter Thiel, a hedge fund manager, and Max Levchin, an engineer who originally was from the Ukraine) had in mind was a system that would permit people around the world not only to be able to pay each other via the Internet, but also to be able to protect themselves when their governments were inflating their currencies. "World Domination" was the theme of this venture, beginning in 1999, in Silicon Valley. Like so many other "high-tech" companies that bloomed in the San Francisco Bay Area during the 1990s, it had the famed "no collar" business culture that made these firms the darlings of an adoring media that later would turn against them en masse when the "New Economy" collapsed like the house of inflationary cards that it was. PayPal, unlike many of the others, like Pets.com, Webvan.com, and etoys.com, hung on, grew, and finally prospered, thanks in no small part to a refugee from the "Old Economy," Eric M. Jackson, who has authored this book. While Jackson's book is far from an exercise in megalomania (in fact, Jackson is one of the more humble authors I have read recently), he was the one who steered PayPal to its most famous moorings: the mechanism of payment choice for hundreds of thousands of people who use the on-line auction services of eBay. Before going on, let me say that The PayPal Wars is valuable not only because it gives the reader an inside view of the entrepreneurial madness that was Silicon Valley, but also because Jackson understands the larger picture of which PayPal was a part. He understands the nature of boom and bust (this despite the fact that he received an economics degree from the decidedly mainstream program of Stanford University), pointing out the role of the Federal Reserve System in this latest sorry economic episode. That alone is enough to make the book worth reading. Furthermore, Jackson understands the predatory nature of the regulatory system that nearly brought down the company after it successfully completed its initial public offering (IPO) in 2002, a feat notable in itself, given the hostile climate that developed after many of the dot.coms went bust. State and federal regulators, as clearly demonstrated in this book, contributed nothing to the quality and "safety" of the product, that being a relatively safe and secure mechanism for using the Internet to make payments. Before the regulators came the fierce competition from other companies wanting to duplicateor at least closely resemblethe PayPal system, as it should be. Such competition made PayPal more innovative and nimble, a trait that was enhanced by the innovative and nimble corporate culture that the company developed, something those interested in Austrian Economics would appreciate, given the primacy of the entrepreneur in the Austrian system. Yet, despite the challenges from competitors, the invasion of Russian organized crime rings that almost brought down the firm through fraudulent accounts, and the pack mentality of the news media, as Jackson points out, government ultimately slowed and nearly stopped the whole enterprise. The state-enforced roadblocks came through predatory regulators and politicians like Elliot Spitzer, the state attorney general of New York, who graciously took time from his shakedown of Wall Street firms to squeeze some "free" cash from PayPal. The second state-enforced barrier came from the trial lawyers acting through class action suits, a mechanism set up by government courts that enriches lawyers and ultimately impoverishes businesses and consumers. The story begins with Thiel recruiting Jackson, in November 1999, to his new firm using that "New Economy" incentive, the stock option. Jackson at that time was a young analyst locked in the bowels of the firm formerly known as Arthur Andersen. At the time, it must have seemed a foolish move, what with PayPal being an unknown startup and Andersen being one of the best-established firms in the world. (Who would have imagined that in five years hence, PayPal would be a world-wide name and Andersen eviscerated by John Ashcroft's Department of Justice on bogus criminal charges for the crime of being the unlucky firm to be handling the Enron account?) Jackson's arrival at PayPal proved to be something out of Silicon Valley stereotypes. He writes: I introduced myself to the receptionist, who had no idea that I was expected. . . . My concern grew. Three people in the company who should have known about my job offer seemed completely stumped. Could Peter (Thiel) have changed his mind? . . . I had no idea what was going on. (pp. 1718) Nor did the initial conditions he faced at Confinity (the official name of the company that gave us PayPal), where the environment was thoroughly unstructured, ease his anxiety: What have I gotten myself into? I pondered as I tested the password to my new Confinity e-mail account on a borrowed computer. I had no job description, my colleagues didn't know who I was, and there wasn't even a desk for me in the building! At least Andersen gave its new hires a place to sit. (p. 20) The company brass finally found a place for Jackson to sitin the "ping-pong room"and the young Stanford economics graduate soon found out he would be involved in marketing PayPal. The idea behind Confinity's signature product was disarmingly simple. While there were many ways for individuals to transfer money to each other, all had limitations. Wire transfers could be costly and required knowledge of both bank accounts, which is information that could easily find its way into the wrong hands. Credit cards are convenient, but few individuals have setups where they can handle the plastic, that being the purvey of businesses who deal in volume. But Thiel's inspiration was far more encompassing than just developing a convenient payment system for small merchants and traders. Jackson recalls a conversation during which Thiel explained his vision: The need PayPal answers is monumental. Everyone in the world needs moneyto get paid, to trade, to live. Paper money is an ancient technology and an inconvenient means of payment. You can run out of it. It wears out. It can get lost or stolen. In the twenty-first century, people need a form of money that's more convenient and secure, something that can be accessed from anywhere with a PDA (palm pilot) or an Internet connection. Of course, what we're calling "convenient" for American users will be revolutionary in the developing world. Many of these countries' governments play fast and loose with their currencies. . . . They use inflation and sometimes wholesale currency devaluations, like we saw in Russia and several Southeast Asian countries last year, to take wealth away from their citizens. Most of the ordinary people there never have an opportunity to open an offshore account or to get their hands on more than a few bills of a stable currency like U.S. dollars. The $64 question is this: How did this grand vision of an alternative way of holding and trading money ultimately become the mechanism of choice for traders using eBay? The credit there goes to Jackson, who while surfing the Internet came upon eBay and realized that most of the small traders and sellers using that site were limited to using the mail to transfer payments in the form of checks, since the average household is not set up to handle credit cards. It was not long before Jackson convinced his superiors to use eBay, and soon it accounted for about 70 percent of PayPal's transactions. However, there were two problems that soon followed. The first was finding a way to make the system profitable. PayPal did not charge for small users (the company did introduce transactions fees for "business" users), instead making its money through the "float" in which it was able to temporarily hold the money before the final transactions were completed. Dependence upon the "float," however, proved to be a loser and the company struggled with a mechanism that would enable it to collect fees yet not drive away its loyal customers. The second problem dealt with duplicate services. For example, eBay developed Billpoint, its own online payment mechanism, and other similar services soon popped up, most of them being backed up by large banks. Furthermore, eBay used a number of tactics in an attempt to steer its customers toward Billpoint and away from PayPal, only to find that the decentralized and nimble crew at Confinity always found a way around the private barriers. To deal with one competitor's threatcoming from X.comConfinity ultimately merged with the firm, creating a marriage that was made elsewhere than Heaven. While Confinity was loosely structured with an entrepreneurial spirit, X.com was more "top down" in structure, decision making dominated by Elon Musk, a capable but sometimes bull-headed CEO who imposed policies that seemed to come more from the comic strip "Dilbert" than the honest give-and-take of business analysis. For example, Musk was stuck on the "X" name to be given to PayPal (X-PayPal) despite its negative connotations. Writes Jackson: While compiling research to support the continued use of the PayPal name, I tracked down a videotape of several focus groups held by an X.com researcher hired the prior summer. The participants in the groups unsurprisingly disparaged the X brand. Women complained that it seemed pornographic, and middle-aged men remarked that it sounded too much like Generation X, comments similar to what we'd heard during the several focus groups held by Confinity. The tapes provided no rationale whatsoever for the use of the X brand. . . . The official write-up from the research answered the question. In almost Orwellian fashion, the summary claimed that the participants liked the X.com name and identified it with "brand X," which supposedly stood for the underdog or the sympathetic little guy. (p. 131) I include this passage not to disparage Musk but rather to point out that even in the profit-making world of business, reports sometimes are written to please the top brass, not deal with real consumer preferences. However, unlike government, where such reports are commonplace and the authors and originators of failed policies rarely must pay for telling half-truths or outright lies, Musk ultimately paid for his bad vision. He was removed from his CEO position by the company's board of directors almost immediately after he announced that X.com was going to discontinue PayPal. The commercial marketplacethat entity regularly denounced by the political classesrewards truth and punishes lying (or "spin," as politicians like to call it). The next challenge came from Russian mafiosos, who were tapping the PayPal accounts on a regular basis, creating large fraud losses. Again, the nimble corporate culture came to the rescue, as the PayPal teams found ways to circumvent the criminals without largely inconveniencing their customers. (Contrast this with the way the Transportation Security Administration largely inconveniences airline passengers to conduct what clearly are ineffectual methods to prevent terrorist hijackings. A gaggle of lawyers soon appeared to sue PayPal because some customers had trouble accessing their accounts; no one sues the TSA just like no one sued the FAA or other U.S. Government agencies after the 9/11 attacks. Only the airlines found themselves in court.) After suffering losses its first few years, PayPal finally began to show a small profit, and it was able to attract the investors who ultimately were willing to purchase its stock following the company's IPO in early 2002. Not surprisingly, the prospect of a new firm coming into the public arena drew not only media coverage, but "entrepreneurial" lawyers and government regulators. Lawyers found ways to bring class action suits while government officials like Elliot Spitzer found ways to demand payments from the company for nonexistent regulatory violations in order to gain permission to operate within their states. In the end, however, PayPal "won." That is, the idea survived and the company survived as well. However, soon after the IPO was completed, the principals decided to sell it to eBay, which quickly jettisoned its ineffective Billpoint and used PayPal as one of its payment mechanisms. Jackson and others who had thrived in the open culture of Confinity (and later X.com) found the "old economy" top-down, MBA-oriented culture of eBay too much to handle and left for other ventures. I have gone through the story, but have not commented on my opinion of this book. Is it worth reading? Absolutely. Does it have a useful and important story to tell? Yes, indeed it does. (I must admit that I liked it so much that I plan to make it required reading for my MBA students beginning in the fall of 2005.) The genius of The PayPal Wars is more than it's being an interesting business story. In the end, it is a wonderful exposition of Austrian Economics, even if that is not what the author intends. We see entrepreneurship, government regulation, and the boom-and-bust business cycles in action, presented in a manner in which the author not only sees the immediate "small" picture, but the larger picture at the same time. It definitely is worth taking the time to read, and those who do will better understand those madcap days in which people mistakenly believed that the laws of economics had been overthrown forever. _______________________ William Anderson, an adjunct scholar of the Mises Institute, teaches economics at Frostburg State University. Send him <mailto:banderson@mail.frostburg.edu>MAIL. See his Mises.org <http://www.mises.org/articles.asp?mode=a&author=Anderson>Articles Archive. Comment on the <http://www.mises.org/blog>blog. In response to many requests, it is now possible to set your credit-card contribution to the Mises Institute to be recurring. You can easily set this up on-line with a donation starting at $10 per month. 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Re: [p2p-hackers] Distributed filesystem choices (aka: none yet?)
by James A. Donald 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

On 2012-03-23 4:55 AM, Volodya wrote: > I don't quite understand. The system must be [anonymous in the sense that the > uploader cannot be identified]&& [have moderation system based on something > other than the blocks popularity like in GnuNet/Freenet*]. The system must be > [using limited amount of disk space given by its users] and [provide infinite > storage guarantee when moderation doesn't apply]. > > I think that the reason why you can't find this filesystem is akin to the reason > why all-powerful, all-knowing, and all-good god has not been spotted yet. Here is a solution: Everyone is, as with Bitcoin, identified by a public key - but by quite a few public keys, providing not anonymity but pseudonymity. When you store stuff on someone else's system you issue an IOU, which IOU is anonymously transferable, using a chaumian protocol, which *does* provide anonymity - you pseudonymously store other people's stuff, and anonymously use the resulting IOUs to store your own stuff. >From time to time you check that stuff that is stored on someone else's system is available by random sampling. When stuff stored on someone else's system becomes inaccessible, you note him as unreliable, and thus decline to issue IOUs or services to him in future, though since IOUs are transferable, you are still up for any IOUs you have issued to him in the past. The software attempts to cancel out IOUs - so that if Bob provides services to Carol, Carol provides services to Edwards, and Edwards provides services to Bob, they cancel out. If someone's IOUs get cancelled out in a cycle of IOUs that include your own, or include those you have confidence are reliable, this is evidence he is reliable in that his IOUs are good. You try to store stuff with those that you have reason to believe are reliable, and with those where storing stuff with them enables you to cancel out IOUs. You give low priority to storing stuff from people whose IOUs you have no reason to believe. Repeating: You pseudonymously store other people's stuff, using a nym that gains reputation thereby, and anonymously store your stuff on other people's systems, using a nym with no reputation. _______________________________________________ p2p-hackers mailing list p2p-hackers(a)lists.zooko.com http://lists.zooko.com/mailman/listinfo/p2p-hackers ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE

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[tahoe-lafs-weekly-news] TWN 33
by Patrick R McDonald 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 ===================================================== Tahoe-LAFS Weekly News, issue number 33, June 11 2012 ===================================================== Welcome to the Tahoe-LAFS Weekly News (TWN). Tahoe-LAFS_ is a secure, distributed storage system. `View TWN on the web`_ *or* `subscribe to TWN`_. If you would like to view the "new and improved" TWN, complete with pictures; please take a `look`_. .. _Tahoe-LAFS: https://tahoe-lafs.org .. _View TWN on the web: https://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/wiki/TahoeLAFSWeeklyNews .. _subscribe to TWN: https://tahoe-lafs.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tahoe-lafs-weekly-news .. _look: https://tahoe-lafs.org/~marlowe/TWN33.html Announcement and News ===================== TWN Moves to Mondays - -------------------- Sorry for failing to post a TWN last week. Unfortunately both of my children were sick with a stomach bug and they take priority. They are much doing fine now, but loved Saturdays with Dad. As such, Saturdays are now theirs and TWN has been moved to Mondays. I apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. LAFS-RPG on Tor Hidden Service - ------------------------------ Markus Reichelt |markus| provided a fantastic concept of running lafs-rpg on a `Tor`_ hidden service. While the grid itself is not on the Tor network, users may access the grid through the hidden service helping to provide the users anonymity for the grid owners. At my request Markus was kind enough to provide a `HOWTO`_ with sample configuration files. Please note, there appears to be an issue when access the service via `tor2web`_. Markus was also kind enough to provide a `live PoC`_. Please note, you will need to use the Tor network to access this PoC. .. |markus| image:: markus.jpg :height: 35 :alt: Markus .. _`Tor`: https://torporject.org .. _`HOWTO`: http://mareichelt.com/pub/mine/tahoe-lafs/lafs-rpg-tor-hs.html .. _`tor2web`: http://tor2web.org/ .. _`live PoC`: http://27jplscnzqi2sser.onion/ Glowing Quotes ============== b Absolutely, I've been very impressed with Tahoe-LAFS, both the underlying concepts and ideas and the implementation (I was playing with it just yesterday). It's fast, reliable, and has been making steady progress.b b Mourad De Clerck Tahoe-LAFS on Twitter ===================== I still want to organize a Tahoe-LAFS Unit Test Writing Party. Somebody give me a little encouragement here! http://identi.ca/url/70271963 [`0`_] @sameerverma @koolhead17 I'd like to see a Juju charm to manage Tahoe-LAFS instances. Seems pretty simple.. [`1`_] .. _`0`: https://twitter.com/zooko/status/210139741386055680 .. _`1`: https://twitter.com/zooko/status/209190319147851777 - From the tahoe-dev Mailing List =============================== Exception in tahoe deep-check - ----------------------------- Brad Rupp experienced `an exception when running tahoe deep-check`_. The exception occurred with Tahoe-LAFS 1.9.1. Brian |brian| suggested the issues might be similar to `#1676`_ and `#1689`_. If this is correct, the developers resolved the issue in trunk two months ago and it will be part of the upcoming 1.9.2 release. Resurrecting MojoNation - ----------------------- Jack Byer expressed interest in `resurrecting Mojo Nation`_. `MojoNation`_ was the creation of Evil Geniuses for a Better Tomorrow. Their ranks included Bram Cohen of BitTorrent fame and our very own Zooko |zooko|. MojoNation provided the ability for users to set prices for any service which their node might offer and for clients to bid on services they desired. Inspired by `a discussion on BitcoinTalk`_ discussing a currency-based filesharing network, Jack wishes to discuss whether it would be practical to reintroduce the idea of market-based computing resource allocation. .. _`an exception when running tahoe deep-check`: https://tahoe-lafs.org/pipermail/tahoe-dev/2012-June/007413.html .. |brian| image:: warner.png :height: 35 :alt: Brian Warner :target: http://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/wiki/AboutUs .. _`#1676`: https://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/tickets/1676 .. _`#1689`: https://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/tickets/1689 .. _`resurrecting Mojo Nation`: https://tahoe-lafs.org/pipermail/tahoe-dev/2012-June/007416.html .. _`MojoNation`: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mojo_nation .. _`a discussion on BitcoinTalk`: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=86384.0 Patches Needing Review of the Week ================================== There is one (1) ticket still needing review for 1.9.2: * `#1115`_: add servers-of-happiness to reports (post-repair says 10 hosts have good shares but there only 4 hosts) There are six (6) ticket still needing review for 1.10.0: * `#166`_: command line order is problematic * `#937`_: 'tahoe run' doesn't work for an introducer node * `#1539`_: stop putting pkg_resources.require() into .tac files * `#1159`_: stop using .tac files: make it possible to change appname, Python package-directory name, perhaps other names * `#1693`_: flogtool doesn't get automatically provided * `#1240`_: add functional test of ResponseCache in favour of MDMFSlotReadProxy's cache There are two (2) tickets still needing review of 1.11.0: * `#1265`_: New Visualizer is insufficiently labelled/documented (plus layout problem) * `#1382`_: immutable peer selection refactoring and enhancements .. _`#1115`: http://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/ticket/1115 .. _`#166`: http://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/ticket/166 .. _`#937`: http://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/ticket/937 .. _`#1539`: http://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/ticket/1539 .. _`#1159`: http://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/ticket/1159 .. _`#1693`: http://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/ticket/1693 .. _`#1240`: http://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/ticket/1240 .. _`#1265`: http://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/ticket/1265 .. _`#1382`: http://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/ticket/1382 - ---- *The Tahoe-LAFS Weekly News is published once a week by The Tahoe-LAFS* *Software Foundation, President and Treasurer: Peter Secor* |peter| *. 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[liberationtech] Cryptocat 2 Alpha Released
by Nadim Kobeissi 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

Dear friends, The first Alpha build of Cryptocat 2 has been released today in the form of browser plugins for Google Chrome and Mozilla Firefox. You are strongly invited to test out the builds and report any: * Bugs (security and otherwise), * Things you'd like to see changed, * Praise! The builds may be downloaded here: https://github.com/kaepora/cryptocat/tree/cryptocat2/alpha To load the extension in Chrome: 1. Download and unzip 'cryptocat-chrome.zip'. 2. In Chrome, go to 'Tools' > 'Extensions' 3. Click 'Developer mode' and load the Cryptocat 2 directory. To load the extension in Firefox: 1. Download 'cryptocat-firefox.xpi' 2. Open the 'Add-ons' page in Firefox. 3. Drag and drop the xpi file into Firefox. Please enjoy and let me know what you think! Warm regards, NK -- Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE

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Re: Wiretap Act Does Not Cover Message 'in Storage' For Short Period (was Re: BNA's Internet Law News (ILN) - 2/27/03)
by Somebody 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

Bob, Technically, since their signal speed is slower than light, even transmission lines act as storage devices. Wire tapping is now legal. <Somebody> ----- Original Message ----- From: "R. A. Hettinga" <rah(a)shipwright.com> To: Clippable <rah(a)shipwright.com> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 3:04 PM Subject: Re: Wiretap Act Does Not Cover Message 'in Storage' For Short Period (was Re: BNA's Internet Law News (ILN) - 2/27/03) > > --- begin forwarded text > > > Status: RO > Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2003 14:27:00 -0500 > To: Tim Dierks <tim(a)dierks.org>, "R. A. Hettinga" <rah(a)shipwright.com>, > cryptography(a)wasabisystems.com > From: "Ronald L. Rivest" <rivest(a)mit.edu> > Subject: Re: Wiretap Act Does Not Cover Message 'in Storage' For Short > Period (was Re: BNA's Internet Law News (ILN) - 2/27/03) > > > Yes, I was amazed at this ruling as well. > > This ruling seems to fly in the face of the likely intent of > Congress when it passed Wiretap Act. > > If things continue in this direction, we will soon have > rulings and regulations that say: > > -- Carriers must put all calls in storage for a minimum > period of time, sufficient to allow wiretapping. > (Indeed, regulation may not be necessary, as digitization and > buffering of communications is common practice; the > transient use of storage to effect communications > efficiency and reliability should not provide a wiretap > loophole.) > > -- Wiretapping is OK for any phone calls that are routed > through a satellite. > > -- It is OK for the government to house soldiers in your > house, as long as there is even the tiniest opening somewhere in > your house (e.g. a window open, or a chimney flue) > so that "inside" and "outside" connect. > > -- Etc. > > I can also see a market developing for "storage-free" communications > carriers. What happens when you inquire of your carrier as to > whether it can provide such a guarantee or option? > > Cheers, > Ron > > At 09:42 PM 3/1/2003, Tim Dierks wrote: > >At 01:39 PM 2/27/2003 -0500, R. A. Hettinga wrote: > >>At 9:01 AM -0500 on 2/27/03, BNA Highlights wrote: > >> > WIRETAP ACT DOES NOT COVER MESSAGE 'IN STORAGE' FOR SHORT > >> > PERIOD > >> > BNA's Electronic Commerce & Law Report reports that a > >> > federal court in Massachusetts has ruled that the federal > >> > Wiretap Act does not prohibit the improper acquisition of > >> > electronic communications that were "in storage" no matter > >> > how ephemeral that storage may be. The court relied on Konop > >> > v. Hawaiian Airlines Inc., which held that no Wiretap Act > >> > violation occurs when an electronic communication is > >> > accessed while in storage, "even if the interception takes > >> > place during a nanosecond 'juncture' of storage along the > >> > path of transmission." Case name is U.S. v. Councilman. > >> > Article at > >> > <http://pubs.bna.com/ip/BNA/eip.nsf/is/a0a6m6y1k8> > >> > For a free trial to source of this story, visit > >> > http://web.bna.com/products/ip/eplr.htm > > > >This would seem to imply to me that the wiretap act does not apply to any > >normal telephone conversation which is carried at any point in its transit > >by an electronic switch, including all cell phone calls and nearly all > >wireline calls, since any such switch places the data of the ongoing call > >in "storage" for a tiny fraction of a second. > > > > - Tim > > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >The Cryptography Mailing List > >Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe cryptography" to > >majordomo(a)wasabisystems.com > > Ronald L. Rivest > Room 324, 200 Technology Square, Cambridge MA 02139 > Tel 617-253-5880, Fax 617-258-9738, Email <rivest(a)mit.edu> > > --- end forwarded text > > > -- > ----------------- > R. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)ibuc.com> > The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/> > 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA > "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, > [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to > experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' > --- end forwarded text -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)ibuc.com> The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' --------------------------------------------------------------------- The Cryptography Mailing List Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe cryptography" to majordomo(a)wasabisystems.com

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Re: [wearables] Wearable Computers and Privacy (surveillance and...)
by Steve Mann 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

> By concentrating sensing and data storage on the body, a wearable > computer allows its user to ``control his own bits.'' The user > determines when and where his data is released and how much to trust > the infrastructure around him. For example, when a wearable user > enters work in the morning, he may instruct his wearable to inform his > office of his arrival so that his office unlocks his door or starts a > pot of coffee. However, the user would probably tell his wearable not > to share his identity with billboards he walks past to avoid the sort > of targeted advertising portrayed in the film ``Minority Report.'' Of > course, some bargain hunters may choose to share their identity with > advertisers to obtain better deals, much like membership cards in > today's grocery stores. .. > By using a combination of physical sensor limitations, legal recourse, Some of the social, legal, ethical, moral, and policy issues you raise are very relevant. In thinking about our recent Special Issue on cyborglaw, here is a comparison of architecture-based recording (surveillance) and person-based recording (sousveillance). You might find this comparison interesting and useful for your article. We'd also welcome thoughts from the whole group on this dichotomy: Surveillance Sousveillance God's eye view from above. Human's eye view. (Authority watching from on-high.) ("Down-to-earth.") Cameras usually mounted on high Cameras down at ground-level, poles, up on ceiling, etc.. e.g. at human eye-level. Architecture-centered Human-centered (e.g. cameras usually mounted on (e.g. cameras carried or worn or in structures). by, or on, people). Recordings made by authorities, Recordings of an activity remote security staff, etc.. made by a participant in the activity. Note that in most states it's In most states it's legal to illegal to record a phone record a phone conversation of conversation of which you are which you are a party. Perhaps not a party. Perhaps the same the same would apply to an would apply to an audiovisual audiovisual recording of your own recording of somebody else's conversations, i.e. conversations conversation. in which you are a party. Recordings are usually kept in Recordings are often made public secret. e.g., on the World Wide Web. Process usually shrouded in Process, technology, etc., are secrecy. usually public, open source, etc.. Panoptic origins, as described Community-based origins, e.g. by Foucault, originally in the a personal electronic diary, context of a prison in which made public on the World Wide Web. prisoners were isolated from Sousveillance tends to bring each other but visible at all together individuals, e.g. it times by guards. Surveillance tends to make a large city tends to isolate individuals function more like a small town, from one another while setting with the pitfalls of gossip, but forth a one-way visibility to also the benefits of a sense of authority figures. community participation. Privacy violation may go Privacy violation is usually un-noticed, or un-checked. immediately evident. Tends Tends to not be self-correcting. to be self-correcting. It's hard to have a heart-to-heart At least there's a chance you can conversation with a lamp post, talk to the person behind the on top of which is mounted a sousveillance camera. surveillance camera. When combined with computers, we When combined with computers, we get ubiquitous computing get wearable computing. ("ubiqcomp") or pervasive ("wearcomp"). Wearcomp usually computing ("pervcomp"). doesn't require the cooperation Ubiq./perv. comp. tend to rely on of any infrastructure in the cooperation of the infrastructure environments around us. in the environments around us. With surveillant-computing, the With sousveillant-computing, it locus of control tends to be with is possible for the locus of the authorities. control to be more distributed. Eventually, we will probably end up with a combination of ubiq/pervcomp (surcomp/souscomp) and wearcomp (sousveillant-computing). There will eventually be some kind of equilibrium ("equivellance") between surveilance and sousveillance. We will wear or carry some but not all of the technology. Obviously we don't wear big batteries to run head-mounted lights, so there are some elements like shelter, lighting, electrical wiring, and plumbing (except for diapers which are wearable restrooms) that are best-served by the architecture. But new emerging technologies of miniaturization will shift the equiveillance (sur/sous equilibrium) a little more from architecture of buildings to human-scale architecure. I believe that the "heavy currents" like the 600 Amp 3phase service that comes into our building will stay in the architecture, whereas the "light currents" (informatic electrical signals) will move more and more onto and into the body. Thus the shift in equiveillance will be primarily informatic, encompassing also personal information like lifelong video capture "cyborglog" personal diaries. --- end forwarded text -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)ibuc.com> The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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Re: NSA knows who you've called.
by Russ Nelson 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

dan(a)geer.org writes: > You and I are in agreement, but how do we get > the seemingly (to us) plain truth across to > others? I've been trying for a good while now, > reaching a point where I'd almost wish for a > crisis of some sort as persuasiveness is not > working. > > We are probably well off-topic for this list. First they came for the terrorists, and I said nothing because I wasn't a terrorist. Then they came for my phone calls, and I said nothing because I had nothing to hide. Then they came for the cryptographers, and I said nothing because I coulldn't even spel the word. Now I can't hide anything. -- --my blog is at http://blog.russnelson.com | Microsoft as wall, Crynwr sells support for free software | PGPok | OSI are the sappers. 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315-323-1241 | Walls fall stone by stone Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | Sheepdog | --------------------------------------------------------------------- The Cryptography Mailing List Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe cryptography" to majordomo(a)metzdowd.com ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature which had a name of signature.asc]

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