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Re: China joins Singapore, Germany, ....
by Duncan Frissell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 04:41 AM 9/9/96 -0700, Timothy C. May wrote: >Prison sentences in Germany for those who reveal forbidden information >about "the Holocaust," In a country where you get 10 months for stabbing a famous tennis star in the back, prison isn't much of a penalty. >prison terms (or worse) for dissidents in Burma, >China, and, of course, various other nations and "democratic people's >republics." > >Even here in the United States, connecting to an illegal site may mean >imprisonment. (The charge: trafficking in child pornography, for example.) The percentage of total hits that will end in jail terms or executions is meaninglessly small as a percentage of total hits, though. You must admit that a ban on 100 sites out of all the sites in the world is pretty insignificant. The swamping effects of thousands and soon millions of sites means the governments of the world won't even be able to evaluate a significant percentage even if they want to. And all this *before* we apply any of our technical fixes. DCF

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Re: [WAS xs4all.nl] Terrorists
by Duncan Frissell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 05:54 PM 9/9/96 -0700, Timothy C. May wrote: >Given the mounting hysteria about terrorism (by the government, at least), >and given the various laws on the books, I would not be surprised to see >some Web sites prosecuted as "harboring" terrorists terrorist-symps. > >If any of you are not citizens of the U.S., and are here on visas, I would >give this some real serious thought. Of course, maybe deportation is a >blessing in disguise. > Course in 1951 they tried the same thing against Commies with the Smith Act. Even authorized concentration camps for 'em and everything. But it didn't work. We were still up to our asses in Commies even with the Act. They even captured the White House eventually. I don't think the anit-terroism act will be any more effective. DCF

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Re: [WAS xs4all.nl] Terrorists (fwd)
by Stephan Schmidt 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Stephan Schmidt wrote: > > Perhaps my connection is only disrupted accidently, but > I can't access www.xs4all.nl from one account > (the two others still work). > IP tried : 194.109.6.100 > > SPG: What is the 'new' IP ? The numbers are rotating every hour, so i can send you a the ip-number every hour to trace to :) > (I hope you don't think I'm a spy for > the German Government :) spy's are not interrested in ip-numbers i think. > Perhaps this time we have to > proove that it's impossible to > block an IP/Web site, so that all govs > get a clue about who inet works. i think they have already or will be informed by the ICTF in some day's. Look at: http://www.anwalt.de/ictf/_960910d.htm Also note one of the first lines: ACHTUNG: Dieses Dokument (einschließlich aller Anlagen) darf bis zu seiner Vervollständigung und Freigabe weder zitiert, in WWW-Server eingestellt, noch abgedruckt werden. :) Henk ps. stephan, can you forward this to the list. I'm reading this list on a server with mail2news, also as a newsgroup i cant reply to ;(

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FW: RRE: Lexis-Nexis personal information database
by Mullen Patrick 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Okay, here's the story. The below is true, except they do NOT have your mother's maiden name. The have your name, SSN, current addy, two previous addys, and date of birth. They also have aliases, if available. Their main customers are attorneys who use this _online_ service to search for people. They've been in business for 20 years, but this list has only been run for a few months. Their customer base (I assume including all databases, which includes lists of ALL legal actions (traffic tickets??)) is 750,000. Hm. Oh, and the SSN isn't given out, but it can be used to search for someone more easily. So, when you do a query, all you'll get is Name, address, phone number, and date of birth, as well as two previous addresses, for what it's worth. The only thing you get that you wouldn't find out by looking in the White Pages is the DOB, and that you could make up. Another case of mass-hysteria (but, of course, *I'm* no longer on the list... ;-) BTW, they're very nice as you get taken off the computer. LONG time on hold, though... Spyjure _______________________________________________________________________________ From: E. Allen Smith on Tue, Sep 10, 1996 3:14 Subject: RRE: Lexis-Nexis personal information database To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com One wonders exactly how much of this information is compiled from government-generated sources? The SSN is automatically originally government-derived, of course... -Allen From: IN%"rre(a)weber.ucsd.edu" 7-SEP-1996 02:02:07.36 [Excerpt from Privacy Forum 5.17.] =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= This message was forwarded through the Red Rock Eater News Service (RRE). Send any replies to the original author, listed in the From: field below. You are welcome to send the message along to others but please do not use the "redirect" command. For information on RRE, including instructions for (un)subscribing, send an empty message to rre-help(a)weber.ucsd.edu =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Date: Tue, 3 Sep 96 12:01 PDT From: privacy(a)vortex.com (PRIVACY Forum) Subject: PRIVACY Forum Digest V05 #17 PRIVACY Forum Digest Tuesday, 3 September 1996 Volume 05 : Issue 17 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 11:22:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Larry Hunter <hunter(a)intr.net> Subject: Lexis-Nexis personal information database Lexis-Nexis sells a commercial database called "Ptrax" which holds detailed personal information on nearly all Americans (L-N claims it contains 300 million names). This database includes name, current address, up to two previous addresses, phone number, birth-date, social security number, mother's maiden name and possible other personal information. This database is kept quite current. Through the Nexis Express service, this information could be available to any individual with a credit card. As most readers will are aware, such information could easily be used for theft of identity and other frauds. It is possible to have one's name removed from this database by making a telephone request. Call (800)543-6862, select option 4 ("all other questions") and tell the representative answering that you wish to remove your name from the Ptrax database. You may also send a fax to (513)865-7360, or physical mail to LEXIS-NEXIS / P.O. Box 933 / Dayton, Ohio 45401-0933. Sending physical mail to confirm your name has been removed is always a good idea. As word of the existence of this database has spread on the net, Lexis-Nexis has been inundated with calls, and has set up a special set of operators to handle the volume. In addition, Andrew Bleh (rhymes with "Play") is a manager responsible for this product, and is the person to whom complaints about the service could be directed. He can be reached at the above 800 number, selection option 4 and then ask for extension 3385. The information in this note has been been confirmed by me, and was originally provided in forwarded messages from Russell Whitaker, Jason Werner, Vern Winters, Katherine Florman and Reuben Snipper. Larry Hunter hunter(a)intr.net ------------------------------ End of PRIVACY Forum Digest 05.17 ************************ ------------------ RFC822 Header Follows ------------------ Received: by mail.ndhm.gtegsc.com with SMTP;10 Sep 1996 03:14:49 -0400 Received: from toad.com by delphi.ndhm.gtegsc.com with SMTP; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 7:12:48 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost) by toad.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA22945 for cypherpunks-outgoing; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 20:08:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from OCELOT.RUTGERS.EDU (ocelot.rutgers.edu [128.6.11.33]) by toad.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA22938 for <cypherpunks(a)toad.com>; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 20:08:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mbcl.rutgers.edu by mbcl.rutgers.edu (PMDF #12194) id <01I9AIVKYUFO9ULM12(a)mbcl.rutgers.edu>; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 23:03 EDT Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 23:03 EDT From: "E. Allen Smith" <EALLENSMITH(a)ocelot.Rutgers.EDU> Subject: RRE: Lexis-Nexis personal information database To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com Message-id: <01I9AIVKYUFO9ULM12(a)mbcl.rutgers.edu> X-Envelope-to: cypherpunks(a)toad.com X-VMS-To: IN%"cypherpunks(a)toad.com" Sender: owner-cypherpunks(a)toad.com Precedence: bulk

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Re: ALPHACIPHER - An unbreakable encryption program.
by roy＠sendai.scytale.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In alt.security, survival(a)aa.net writes: [ attribution scrambled ] >> True, but somehow I have a feeling that Alphacipher is not a one-time >> pad, and thus is breakable. > > This assumption is not true. ALPHACIPHER is, indeed, based upon an OTP. > We've solved all of the problems associated with pad creation, > distribution, packaging and many other concerns that have previously > limited the use of a cipher in this class. Their web page alludes to a OTP-like operation where you have to purchase key "refills". It doesn't say where they store the escrowed copies of the key material. > Visit our net page at http://www.aa.net/cyber-survival-hq for more > information, and read the reply in response to the unfounded attack by > Curtin, posted above. I recommend this page, if only for the great conspiracy theory about automated telephone line scanning. - -- Roy M. Silvernail [ ] roy(a)scytale.com PGP Public Key fingerprint = 31 86 EC B9 DB 76 A7 54 13 0B 6A 6B CC 09 18 B6 Key available from pubkey(a)scytale.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMjVcuRvikii9febJAQG1wQP+PPevphnwFiUnhwfHfi9eSLI/lJz++eaw X4Xo6Oa343rpnNoNw0D51aIRZbRmh9QRt1nhNbD3fPvNPjjvzxW58zgAtX5+kxfk b54pBzlVTEYcPBFXatfQuCjhhd95gjaMXYsKAx6rUNt02QFihGWqID48huN9nFOZ 0MlhN5IxIBk= =y4kc -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Court challenge to AOL junk-mail blocks
by Peter Trei 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

[you can't bounce spam back to it's source] > Why not? Because spammers _invariably_ forge the return addresses to keep > exactly that from happening. What I do is look into the headers, and start bouncing it back to the domain administrator, if I can't find any better mail address. Pegasus makes it easy to automate this. I *do* send one politely worded request first - it takes a second spamming before I'll set up the rule. Peter Trei trei(a)process.com

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Allo allo
by Smaug 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Just figured i'd drop a hello in the box. Hopefully at least a few of you have encountered me at some point... For the rest, I am Si_Druid (si is for Silicon...) and i've been around too long :) I consider myself a cyBerpunk by a definition that myself and a group of other CbP's came up w/ that seemed to fit best. Whether it is best or not is a matter of much discrepancy by the hard core "CbP is a fictional genre" groupies, but its rather irrelevant to the rest of the populace. So why am i here? Well, our ideas on CbP include just about all forms of survival in this society, and cryptology is probably one of the leading forms. I figured I'd better throw my hat in the ring before it got out of hand and i wound up eating it instead. I'm not terribly experienced w/ crypts, pgp still annoys me, but 'back in the day' i used to write some low level crypts that were relatively impossible to break... they were also impossible to decrypt, which meant that the only way to use them was to work forward.... mostly i did password encryption schemes, this one working the best: string #a nice set of ascii codes currkeyletter #letter from string in use password #a password from 5 to whatever characters encrypted #the password encrypted char #the current character of the password we're playing w/ stringchar #the char # in the string for char=0 to lengthof(password) #getting our stringchar stringchar=char while stringchar >= lengthof(string) { stringchar=stringchar-lengthof(string) } currkeyletter=string[stringchar] #writing the encrypted password if char = 0 #first letter encrypted[char]=resolve(password[char],0,password[char+1],string[stringchar] else if char = lengthof(password) #last letter encrypted[char]=resolve(password[char],encrypted[char-1],0,string[stringchar]) else encrypted[char]=resolve(password[char],encrypted[char-1],password[char+1], string[stringchar]) end of for resolve(pw,en,pw2,st){ result=pw+en+pw2+st while result>=250 { result=result-250 } return(result) } ----- doesnt really matter what language you write it in, the difficulty is essentialy that the only way to solve it is to test all possible passwords and strings... which is... (lets say a complexity of pw=7, str=6) 52^7 * 250^6 ~=10^26 I think that was somewhere near the number of electrons in the universe :) Anyway, just providing y'all with something to toy with.... Si. Oh what a tangled web we weave, when we practice to deceive Case in point - www.*.*

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FW: Terrorists
by jbugden＠smtplink.alis.ca 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

tcmay(a)got.net (Timothy C. May) wrote: >Crypto anarchy means the undermining of governments, and hence handouts to people by government. People will only move physically for physical jobs, and not for handouts. People will flow to where the jobs are, and jobs will flow to where the people are. Isn't this what we really want? --Tim May Absolutely. I get tired of living in a small city of only 3 million. And when enough people have moved to urban areas cars will naturally become less useful because we won't have the room or the time to use them for intracity travel. Bicycle riding will then become the norm. And the weekend will be rotating with 1/7th of the population off on any given day so as to minimize the traffic loads and make better use of available resources. And power will concentrate in large organizations that will replace most of the functioning of the government. A crescendo of self organized criticality. I don't know if reference to Crazy Eddie or a growing sand pile makes a better oblique closing comment. James Got them Red China Blues...

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Re: Conjuring up the latest utopia for a minoritarian sect of illuminati
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:41 PM 9/10/96, Enzo Michelangeli wrote: >> As to what I presume is an insult to the folks on this list ("I'm >> personally not interested in conjuring up the latest utopia for a >> minoritarian sect of illuminati"), you know where the exit is. > >Triple cheers for free speech. Calling for expulsion of those who don't >share your opinion seems to me the clearest sign of will to remain an >enlightened minority. Then, why do you take it as an insult? I didn't call for your "expulsion." No one has been expelled in four years of the list's existence. However, when people complain about not being interested in the list topics, and refers to some of the main list topics as "conjuring up the latest utopia for a minoritarian sect of illuminati," then, yes, I would say this is insulting, or, at least, dismissive. As with a restaurant, if people complain loudly about the food, they ought to leave and not come back. This is not the restaurant expelling them, this is just them acting on their opinions. --Tim May, Member of the Minoritarian Illuminati We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, I know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^1,257,787-1 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Re: Guns Don't Kill People, IP Does
by jim bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 10:37 AM 9/10/96 -0400, Mike Fletcher wrote: >> Sorry for my bad English, perhaps I got misunderstood. >> Would you run a WWW site where the (say there where some) >> terrorist who shot down (a wild assumtion too) the TWA plane >> claiming it was right and all people should fight 'evil >> America'. Because of your web site there are other bomb >> attacks in the US (or somewhere else, the country is not that >> important) (although it's of course impossible to proove that >> this bombings are 'inspired' by your web site). >> Would you support the freedom of speech in this way ? > > Call me crazy, but maybe if "terrorists" had a web page to >use to get out their particular message they wouldn't need to go out >and blow things up to get noticed (well, except for the ones in it >just for the sake of blowing things up). That's the RIGHT answer! Historically, governments have wanted to deny dissident-type people the freedom to spread word of their opposition to the rest of the population. This just made the problem worse, ensuring that they'd have to use violence to get the word out. The problem fed on itself until these people became "terrorists." The best way to stop this cycle is to allow these people to talk to us, and the web page is the modern form of talking. Be _very_ suspicious of anybody who wants to continue to isolate people he calls "terrorists." Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

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