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DES CRACKING SCREENSAVER, was: Can we kill single DES?
by azur＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>On Wed, 2 Oct 1996, Frank Andrew Stevenson wrote: > >> DES CRACKING SCREENSAVER >[...] >>the screensaver itself can simply display a rotating globe, >> where the different densities of global usage is given in colour shades, >>showing >> an inverse sunclock of sorts. I think such a concept might give the >>DES-cracking >> screensaver a critical mass. Suggest you make it a plug-in module to one of the popular screen savers (e.g., After Dark). I'd run it. PGP Fingerprint: FE 90 1A 95 9D EA 8D 61 81 2E CC A9 A4 4A FB A9 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Snoop Daty Data | Internet: azur(a)netcom.com Grinder | Voice: 1-702-655-2877 Sacred Cow Meat Co. | Fax: 1-702-658-2673 7075 W. Gowan Road, #2148 | Las Vegas, NV 89129 | --------------------------------------------------------------------- Just say NO to prescription DRUGS. "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive." -- C.S. Lewis "Surveillence is ultimately just another form of media, and thus, potential entertainment." -- G. Beato

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Crypto Boundries
by ratak 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com Date: Tue Oct 01 12:38:37 1996 Hello All... A few questions here... The idea of a Crypto programming division has been tossed around over here, and was wondering... Does anyone have any serious hard facts on what crypto is allowed in which countries? How about Crypto development within Canadian Boundaries, are there any limits/concerns? Are any of the Crypto systems subject to different laws i.e 3Des/IDEA/MD5/Blowfish etc.? Later ___________________________________________________________________ GarGoyle Securities - -Intrusion Assessment Systems - -Security Consultation/Education/Curriculum Development - -Project Management/Research/Analysis World Wide... - -Member of CITDC (Canadian International Trade Development Council) - -Email 1: <ratak(a)escape.ca> Jason E.J. Manaigre - -Email 2: <ratak(a)GargSec.mb.ca> - -Email for PGP key with phrase 'Get Public Key' as Subject - -2048 PGPKey iD E2 FA 30 E5 F5 AD EC F3 00 9A 9D 33 59 FC DF AD ___________________________________________________________________ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBMlFXIfqtmO8M92GRAQF2tgf/aZ1bATXGeE8jK309T1gcnl25cogE0I0a pO1hAtgtBedSO56XBas0bwhJD5tWeNuR46uQNKNH3hX7MeJN1wAKGg5o7sBsf4k0 J1ApRTXt2DsbELkYdIkcMVsTf1W40AimormYDKq2DPqSg7b9C1n1vQe/uDkDxDN3 aT/MOl7YLH1d31TffF7zwOLmcs1d0qZ8n0w//QcGwOI9l1Q2i0hc98DW6qYwdpJG Zg+rZzt7jWJxICufh43AABs3j1X7FBsN+g0zBVrLmBK+I55/cHoxAg0uK+b1umTJ eetc2GyjtO3H7uzpFDBZLJ3bTamm9nyA6fmYgjKm0dXpfYPlR5UBpw== =BjRl -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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How might new GAK be enforced?
by Timothy C. May 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Now that the shoe is dropping on "Clipper III" (or "Clipper IV"), the "voluntary, for export, key escrow system," how might it be enforced? Some possibilities: 1. Make GAK the "easiest and safest" use even within the United States. Do this by aggressively pursuing, harassing, and prosecuting anyone who lets non-U.S. persons, even within the United States, have access to export-controlled software. (I had not fully appreciated the ramifications of the ITARs for software distributed _within_ the U.S. until the Bernstein matter unfolded. Export-controlled software is not supposed to be sold to various classes of foreign persons, including visitors, students on certain types of visas, and others. Mostly such rules have been ignored, with large software stores like CompUSA, Fry's, Egghead, etc., simply selling export-controlled software to anyone with the money. Their are _stickers_ on some software items warning against export, but these are ignored in sales. A few high-profile prosecutions of large resellers could spread FUD wide and far, triggering a "GAK-only" policy on sales of crypto products. The outcome of the Bernstein hearing could thus be critical.) 2. Attempt to make illegal the _interoperability_ with non-GAK software. Or, attempt to make illegal interoperability with a product which would have been illegal to export. Thus, if Alice, in the U.S., uses a crypto product to communicate with Bob, in a foreign country, and it "would have been illegal" for Bob to legally receive the product, then Alice is presumed to be breaking some law (maybe "conspircacy"...I'm not a lawyer) by sending messages Bob can read. This is just vague speculation. But I think the government must be thinking how they can finesse this point, how they can stop the current "crypto anarchy" (in a different sense than I use it), where "rogue users" in foreign countries are unreachable by U.S. law. The easiest way, of course, is to go after U.S. persons or companies who intercommunicate with these rogue users. (Else what's to stop Giant Corporation from using Non-GAKked software within the U.S., which is perfectly legal (under the "voluntary" system), but then "happening" to have their foreign branches and customers obtain "bootleg" versions at their end? All it takes is a single copy to get out, and be duplicated a zillion times. Voila, interoperability, with the only "crime" being the first export...which is essentially impossible to stop, for so many reasons we mention so often. Conclusion: Government must make this very mode illegal, perhaps by making it a conspiracy to thwart the export laws....) Any other ideas on how the government plans to enforce GAK, to make GAK the overwhelmingly-preferred solution? --Tim May We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, I know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^1,257,787-1 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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San Diego CPunk Physical meeting Thursday
by Christian Claborne 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- <<<<< NOTE! I have a new address!!! >>>>>> This Thursday!!! San Diego Area CPUNKS symposium Thursday, Oct. 3, 1996. Invitation to all Cypherpunks to join the San Diego crowd at "The Mission Cafe & Coffee Shop". We discuss cryptography and other related subjects, have the special cypherpunk dinner, and unwind after a long day at the grind stone. Don't forget to bring your public key fingerprint. If you can figure out how to get it on the back of a business card, that would be cool. If you want the suspicious crowd there to sign your key, bring two forms of ID. Michelle is going to bring her PGP fingerprint in for signature. Can you believe it? Hopefully Lance Cottrell will give us an update on Mixmaster and what's going on at San Diego's best ISP. You can also get the scoop on the latest development of my job situation (hint, some people are getting free eats from me on Thurs). Place: The Mission Cafe & Coffee Shop 3795 Mission Bl in Mission Beach. 488-9060 Time:1800 Their Directions: 8 west to Mission Beach Ingram Exit Take west mission bay drive Go right on Mission Blvd. On the corner of San Jose and mission blvd. It is located between roller coaster and garnett. It's kind of 40s looking building... funky looking (their description, not mine) They serve stuff to eat, coffee stuff, and beer + wine. See you there! New guy, bring your fingerprint. Drop me a note if you plan to attend... NOTE: My primary e-mail address has changed to use my own domain. You can reach me at "claborne(a)cyberthought.com". Permanently replace any other address that you may have for me. I am currently not subscribed to the CP list since my current internet connection is slow (I can't afford anything right now :) 2 -- C -- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 4.0 Personal Edition iQEVAgUBMlFWioP1MBWQ+9udAQFx4wf/XYFLdsCzyCuIAHyswaKLxZWVgbj8lZiZ 0uxh1kv6SY0BW1UVrz5Fi9mkqcfy8D1t70VZj2BfxsEcVPSWKoaBaZA/NJaKyt29 UYHleHz00bkzesSKyJpZ6TSGFgG765okgG3xI3Q/93IbgiZxDzbmYvDGGsYLO9FY 0RSageZaeSALZgZxCQkG64EwChTqolJgBPpLS8Fv3kDEM96aA6d2zfip6nhgSYYR +omBwcmGU2Y+kG+LAtV7YxAm7VFHSPy5FvmETcDDWH8+IbSECGgtJIvFFanIxk1F LmJjgjfzgr9vpM/3CAuX4ar/WrffLuyZxGXH49fWDzht9o4ayb94xw== =jEwG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ... __o .. -\<, Claborne(a)CYBERTHOUGHT.com ...(*)/(*)._ Providing thoughts on your computing needs. http://www.CYBERTHOUGHT.com/cyberthought/ PGP Pub Key fingerprint = 7E BF 38 3F 24 A7 D1 B0 54 44 96 AA 10 D0 5D 51 Avail on Pub Key server. PGP-encrypted e-mail welcome! Dreams. They are just a "screen saver" for the brain.

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[ADVICE] Dimitri Vilus`s personal attacks
by paul＠fatmans.demon.co.uk 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Hmm...never heard that one before. Care to produce > a reference? > > (Or am I supposed to be ignoring this guy when he > makes ridiculous claims?) I shouldn`t take any notice, he`s a loon who posts rants, lies, off topic rubbish and personal attacks to the mailing list. just ignore him, hopefully he`ll soon realise he`s not wanted and leave... Datacomms Technologies web authoring and data security Paul Bradley, Paul(a)fatmans.demon.co.uk Paul(a)crypto.uk.eu.org, Paul(a)cryptography.uk.eu.org Http://www.cryptography.home.ml.org/ Email for PGP public key, ID: 5BBFAEB1 "Don`t forget to mount a scratch monkey"

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Clipper IV Proposal
by Dave Banisar 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

FYI, The Clipper IV Proposal is now up at the EPIC Web site at: http://www.epic.org/crypto/key_escrow/clipper4_statement.html Dave _________________________________________________________________________ Subject: Clipper IV Proposal _________________________________________________________________________ David Banisar (Banisar(a)epic.org) * 202-544-9240 (tel) Electronic Privacy Information Center * 202-547-5482 (fax) 666 Pennsylvania Ave, SE, Suite 301 * HTTP://www.epic.org Washington, DC 20003 * ftp/gopher/wais cpsr.org

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[NEWS] Crypto-relevant wire clippings
by dlv＠bwalk.dm.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

News Release (Smart Card Forum): Friday, September 27, 1996 Consumers Can Be Confident in Smart Card Security TAMPA, Fla. -- Two scientists at Bellcore announced a theoretical model for penetrating the security of smart cards and other tamperproof devices. It is important to point out that this is just a mathematical theory. The Smart Card Forum does not believe that this theoretical attack presents a real-world risk. Multiple techniques are used together to make the entire system secure. And good systems are designed so that they cannot be attacked successfully at a single point. Even if a single card could be compromised, though unlikely, it would not compromise an entire system nor allow the production of counterfeit cards. That is not to say that Bellcore's work is not useful. In fact, the Smart Card Forum encourages this type of healthy speculation because of the importance of ensuring that all security issues be considered, analyzed and resolved as early in the product design as possible. For a smart card product to be successful, consumers must have confidence in its security. The Bellcore research should not be perceived in any way as diminishing the security of smart card products consumers are now using. The smart cards used in North American stored value trials today are not vulnerable to this theoretical attack. The Smart Card Forum The Smart Card Forum is a non-profit, multi-industry membership organization promoting the widespread acceptance of multiple application smart card technology in North America. Its primary mission is to bring together in an open forum, leaders from both the private and public sectors to address topics associated with the development and evolution of smart card technology applications. The Forum was established in September 1993 and currently has more than 225 corporate and government members including: Chase Manhattan, Citibank, Bellcore, MCI, MasterCard, Visa, IBM, Microsoft, Mobil Oil, Schlumberger, Gemplus, Delta Airlines, U.S. Postal Service, the Federal Reserve, U.S. Department of Treasury and U.S. Department of Defense. Dow Jones: Friday, September 27, 1996 Chase Says Findings Won't Halt NYC Smart Card Plan A potential security flaw in electronic cash cards found by Bellcore scientists will have no effect on a pilot program to test the cards in New York City early next year, a leading bank involved in the program said. Chase Manhattan Corp. (CMB) spokesman Ken Herz - speaking on behalf of a consortium that includes Citicorp (CCI), Visa International and MasterCard International Ltd. - said Bellcore's warnings won't hinder the roll-out of the pilot program. ''The industry is well aware of the vulnerabilities of the system,'' Herz said, adding that the consortium members have discussed the potential problems ''for months now.'' Herz said the consortium is planning to test the cards during the first quarter of 1997 with about 50,000 Chase and Citicorp customers on the Upper West Side of Manhattan. American Banker: Friday, September 27, 1996 Why Intuit Pulled Plug on Home Banking Processing By DREW CLARK Intuit Inc., which boasts of being able to turn on a dime, proved it could with its decision to get out of the processing of home banking transactions. An acquisition that looked so smart just two years ago turned into an albatross. When 40 top executives gathered at Mountain View, Calif., headquarters last month to determine the fate of Intuit Services Corp., the answer quickly became evident. As was announced last week, Checkfree Corp. agreed to buy the unit for $228 million in stock. "We have always anticipated this change, but we did not anticipate that it would come so fast," said Intuit executive vice president William H. Harris. Intuit bought the Downers Grove, Ill., processor, then known as National Payment Clearinghouse Inc., for $6.8 million in 1994. Overnight, Intuit established itself as the leader in handling transactions emanating from PC-based financial management programs. By this year, though, bankers have been complaining loudly about service quality and worrying aloud that Intuit wants to control their relationships with users of its popular Quicken software. Complicating matters for Intuit, as it was dealing with rapid growth in transaction volume this year, was a flurry of new entrants -- banks as well as software companies -- into the home banking market. The Intuit executives knew they had to take action. Should they add to the more than $30 million already spent on Intuit Services, or cut their losses and refocus on the core software business? "We put up on a board a list of the highest priorities that we wanted to address," Mr. Harris said. "The list was overwhelming." Besides home banking and bill payment, the company envisioned itself connecting customers to mutual funds, insurance, and tax preparation as well as facilitating bill presentment and electronic commerce. It became obvious to the executives that ownership of Intuit Services was not helping them to meet those priorities. "By the end of the process, there was close to complete unanimity," said Mr. Harris, who reports to chief executive William V. Campbell. "A number of people changed or modified their points of view. There were those who argued we could innovate faster by continuing to do every part of the chain." Once they decided to sell Intuit Services, the software company's leaders moved on the issue of openness. "We needed many people to help us," Mr. Harris said, "and one of the ways to get other people to help us was to open up our system." Along with the announcement of the sale, Intuit said it would decouple its financial software from the back-end processing network to be owned by Checkfree. No longer would banks be forced to use the facility for back-end processing and bill-paying work. Under a new regime called OpenExchange, Intuit promised to release software specifications by the end of the year. Banks and other financial institutions will be able to offer customers on-line access to Intuit products regardless of their payment processor. Mr. Harris said the decision "frees us up to concentrate on the front-end software and allows us to find appropriate partners" for back-end processing. But he added, "one of the disadvantages of an open approach is that you depend upon your partners." "This decision underscores the trend toward open standards in on-line financial services," said Marc Singer, a consultant with McKinsey & Co. in San Francisco. "It also illustrates the importance of collaborating to compete. In an uncertain environment you have to stake out positions and continually revisit them." Securities analysts also praised the evaluation of Intuit Services Corp. as "a drag on earnings. Intuit wants to hold on to the lead, and this will make Intuit more appealing to the large banks," said Steve Higgens of Bear Stearns & Co. in San Francisco. Although Intuit's move toward open software came just a week after the bank-owned Integrion Financial Network emphasized its own "open standards," Intuit officials insisted that the timing was coincidental. Quicken 6.0 for Windows is scheduled for release in October. The 1997 version will be the first to comply to the OpenExchange standard, Mr. Harris said. "We've done a lot in a hurry." He expressed no regret about the company's two-year experiment in payment processing, saying Intuit technicians had learned much by establishing back-end connections to banks and bringing many customers into the home banking field. "When we purchased National Payment Clearinghouse, the only viable way to connect securely with large numbers of consumers was through a private network and on a central hub," said Mr. Harris. "That was true one year ago, and probably even six months ago," he added. "It was now time for us to adjust our connectivity strategy and embrace the open approach." Intuit now hopes OpenExchange will be its gateway to the Internet. The company plans to implement Internet connections for on-line investment activities next spring and for on-line banking and bill payment next fall. "Today," said Intuit chairman Scott Cook on the day the sale and OpenExchange were announced, "rapid advances in safety and reliability of the Internet make it the central focus of our overall connectivity and business strategy." OpenExchange is akin to other protocols being developed by Intuit competitors. But unlike Microsoft Corp.'s Open Financial Connectivity and Visa Interactive's ADMS (Access Device Message Specification), OpenExchange will also transmit nonbanking financial information. Intuit hopes thereby to encourage sales of its investment, tax, payroll and accounting software. American Banker: Monday, September 30, 1996 Bad News for High-Tech Lending: Borrowers Prefer People By Edward Kulkowsky About 97% of all homeowners prefer to apply for mortgages in person, according to a survey by the Mortgage Bankers Association. The finding suggests that there might be tough sledding ahead for lenders considering alternative marketing channels for mortgages, such as the Internet, phone, and video conferencing. The survey uncovered other consumer preferences that could be useful to lenders. "The findings are expected to help mortgage lenders more precisely target current homeowners to refinance, as well as help them retain their own current borrowers," said David Lereah, the MBA's chief economist. "Further, the information contained in the study provides investment bankers and institutional investors with an analysis of which types of mortgages are likely to refinance, in order to better predict prepayment speeds on mortgage-backed securities." The MBA said the final report and a data tape of the complete study, "Mortgage Refinancing Practices and Decision-Making Dynamics," is available for purchase. The tape provides extensive demographic data that can be sorted and stratified by 169 fields, according to the announcement. All 1,500 respondents originated or refinanced a loan between January 1991 and March 1996. The survey found that borrowers had limited loyalty to their current lender. About three-quarters of the 1,500 respondents to the survey were willing to consider lenders in addition to their present provider. About 80% of those who plan to remain in their homes more than five years said they would refinance if rates fell by one to two percentage points. More than half reported having refinanced their original mortgages, motivated primarily by attractive rates and lower fees. Other key findings: * Some 80% of those who refinanced now have fixed-rate loans. * About three-quarters of those who did not refinance already had fixed- rate loans, and two-thirds have loans with rates of 6.6% to 8%. * About a third of those who refinanced took out loans larger than their outstanding balances. * About half of the respondents said "too much paperwork" was the major difficulty in the refinancing process. The study was sponsored by the MBA, Citicorp Mortgage Inc., First Union Mortgage Corp., First Chicago NBD Mortgage and Norwest Mortgage Inc. and was conducted by R.S. Carmichael & Co., a market research company. News Release (Microsoft): Monday, September 30, 1996 Survey Shows Americans Struggle with Financial Fitness Experts look to PCs and Personal Finance Software for Better Money Management Results from the recent Money '97 Financial Fitness Survey reveal the average American's state of financial fitness falls well below expert guidelines. Microsoft Money '97 personal finance software commissioned the telephone survey of more than 1,000 respondents, in conjunction with the release of the latest version of the software package, to gain a better idea of how Americans are currently managing their personal finances. Some financial experts point to the online revolution as a promising part of the solution to America's woes. Studies show that over 750,000 households are already using online banking, with projections for a staggering 13 million by the year 2000. Computers and personal finance software are dramatically improving America's potential to gain control of their money management. For so long, so many have struggled to face the numbers, dreaded the monthly reconciliations and wondered whether they were really saving enough. But help is here in a way generations before never imagined. With a PC and personal finance software, people can now sit in the comfort of home and use online banking to pay bills electronically, reconcile check registers, transfer funds, and so much more. This new technology opens up a whole new world of financial ease and control for household money managers. Survey Reveals Persistent Trouble Spots Conducted by Opinion Research Corporation of Princeton, NJ, the Microsoft Money '97 Financial Fitness Survey compares American's personal finance management practices with the advice of leading personal finance experts in four key areas: 1) Budgets, Tracking & Categorizing; 2) Savings & Investments; 3) Credit Cards & Banking; 4) Retirement & Big Ticket Items. In all four fitness categories, the survey shows that many Americans struggle with common problem areas. For example: On Budgeting Experts say a solid, categorized budget is the foundation for financial fitness, however: * only 37% of Americans follow a categorized spending plan, while 42% simply pay bills and allocate what's left. Another 17% say they just don't budget at all. On Saving The advice "Pay yourself first!" is a familiar battle cry among financial experts, however: * more than half the Americans surveyed (56%) admit they do not set aside a fixed amount or percentage from each paycheck. Regarding those all-important personal emergency funds, experts say we should have a minimum of two months living expenses on hand, however: * among households with children between 12-17 years, a distressing 51% have either no funds tucked away or only enough to cover 2-4 weeks in a crisis. On Credit Paying high interest on credit card debt can negate gains of other good investments, however: * among the 76% who have credit cards, more than half don't pay off their balance each month, needlessly incurring finance charges and further debt. Planning for the Future It's important to know early on what we'll need for the big ticket items like college or our own retirement fund. However: * on college tuition, among households with children under 12 yrs, a surprisingly high 71% could not correctly estimate the cost of sending a child to one year of state university 15 years from now ($22,000). * on inflation, only 18% of Americans were able to correctly identify how much today's dollar will be worth in 20 years (38 cents). The Easy Way To Manage Money "The Money '97 survey does signal some troubling financial fitness problems," says personal finance expert and best-selling author Neale S. Godfrey ("Money Doesn't Grow On Trees," "A Penny Saved," "From Cradle to College"), "But it's my job to tell people, 'it's okay,' and where to go from here." Godfrey and other experts advise would-be money managers to start by getting the right tools and getting organized. Says Godfrey, "I use Microsoft Money to help people manage their money on a day-to-day basis and to see their complete financial picture. Then, they continue using it to keep finances in shape." Jack B. Root, President of Successful Money Management Seminars (SMMS) notes, "By computerizing personal finances, the formerly unfit will soon be able to determine exactly where their money's going. They'll have the understanding needed to set long term goals, make strategic decisions and stay in control." Microsoft Money '97 is an excellent task-based tool for tackling the most common financial fitness problems. Money '97 is quick and simple to learn, and helps the user work from categorized budgets, track finances, easily manage accounts and pay bills electronically (no more checks!). Even for the well-disciplined home finance manager, the online banking feature of Microsoft Money '97 can be a real time-saver and expand options. The user can easily download statements, balance accounts and transfer funds from home. In the Money '97 Financial Fitness Survey, nearly a quarter (22%) of respondents admit they reconcile their checking account to a bank statement (when notified of insufficient funds) only occasionally or never. But even for the many who reconcile regularly, studies show all but one percent are doing it the tedious manual way. Online banking allows people to access statements and reconcile checks at the touch of a button. Money '97 Launches National Financial Fitness Campaign To help America set out on the road to recovery, Money '97 is launching a national Financial Fitness Campaign. The multi-tiered program kicks off with free, open to the public Financial Fitness Events in New York, Chicago and San Francisco. Regional survey results and Money '97's campaign for change led the mayors of all three cities to declare "Financial Fitness Day" on the date the event comes to town. Participants will have a chance to take a financial fitness test, have their most pressing fitness problems diagnosed, and meet with financial experts for advice and information. The Money '97 training team will also be out in full force helping event-goers learn how to computerize their finances. Download Trial Version of Money '97 Free at MoneyZone Americans will have easy access to the tools needed to get started on their own financial fitness program. Beginning September 30th you can download a trial version of Money '97 for free (connect charges apply). Just go to Microsoft MoneyZone on the World Wide Web at www.microsoft.com/moneyzone. MoneyZone also links users to product support, a complete list of Money '97 ONLINE bank partners and a wealth of other personal finance management information. Additionally, working with Money '97, Successful Money Management Seminars (SMMS), will conduct ongoing seminars across the country to help Americans improve their financial management skills. Founded in 1975, Microsoft (Nasdaq: MSFT) is the worldwide leader in software for personal computers. The company offers a wide range of products and services for business and personal use, each designed with the mission of making it easier and more enjoyable for people to take advantage of the full power of personal computing everyday. --- Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps

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Hey, there's a camera in that palm tree!
by lcs Mixmaster Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

LANGHORNE, Penn., Sept 30 (Reuter) - Digital Descriptor Systems Inc said on Monday that it had received the first $140,000 phase of a proposed $1.4 million contract from IBM. The money is to be used by the Bahamas for the installation of imaging identification systems. The first segment of the imaging program will be installed in the Bahamas by the end of this year. Digital Descriptor, in a three-year partnership with IBM to create a program needed on a country-wide basis by the government of the Bahamas, manufactures and markets imaging systems for municipal and private criminal enforcement markets.

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This list is a joke
by Dave Temple 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

When I subscribed to this list, I thought it would have decent communication on worthwhile topics. I've come to realize though that 75% of the messages I receive are from people whining like 4 year olds. I am making a huge assumption in saying that most of the people on this list are adults. It is time to start acting like it. Please take my name off of this list.

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The Impact of Cybercommunications on Traditional Financial Services
by Joseph M. Reagle Jr. 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

http://www.ctr.columbia.edu/citi/cybercom.html http://www.ctr.columbia.edu/citi/cybcompap/ravi.htm Abstract: This paper presents a framework that provides a conceptual understanding of electronic commerce-based financial services. The paper then discusses some of the research issues that need to be addressed in this emerging area. Systematic research o n online financial services is virtually non-existent. Most of the early work consists of anecdotal evidence from individual companies, usually in the form of trade journal articles which have no empirical basis. Clearly there is a need for industry-acade mia collaboration to understand the online financial services area better. There is also a need to develop methods and tools for measuring the effectiveness of these services. Traditional effectiveness measuring methods will be of limited use in cyberspac e as banks enter an era in which financial products are treated as information commodities and banks are in competition with non-banks to serve customers with the best bundle of information _______________________ Regards, An oral contract isn't worth the paper it's written on. -? Joseph Reagle http://rpcp.mit.edu/~reagle/home.html reagle(a)mit.edu E0 D5 B2 05 B6 12 DA 65 BE 4D E3 C1 6A 66 25 4E

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