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Command confirmation request (7B3F47)
by L-Soft list server at EDS (1.8b) 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Your command: SIGNOFF COOL_TRAVELS has been received. For security reasons, you are now required to reply to this message, as explained below, to confirm the execution of your command. If you have problems with this procedure, you can contact the list owner directly (COOL_TRAVELS-request(a)LISTSERV.XWEB.EDS.COM) and ask to be manually removed from the list. To confirm the execution of your command, simply reply to the present message and type "ok" (without the quotes) as the text of your message. Just the word "ok" - do not retype the command. This procedure will work with any mail program that fully conforms to the Internet standards for electronic mail. If you receive an error message, try sending a new message to LISTSERV(a)LISTSERV.XWEB.EDS.COM (without using the "reply" function - this is very important) and type "ok 7B3F47" as the text of your message. Finally, your command will be cancelled automatically if you do not confirm it within 48h. After that time, you must start over and resend the command to get a new confirmation code. If you change your mind and decide that you do NOT want to confirm the command, simply discard the present message and let the command expire on its own.

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Output of your job "cypherpunks"
by L-Soft list server at EDS (1.8b) 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> ok 203E30 Confirming: > SIGNOFF COOL_TRAVELS You have been removed from the COOL_TRAVELS list. Summary of resource utilization ------------------------------- CPU time: 0.016 sec Device I/O: 1 Overhead CPU: 0.008 sec Paging I/O: 0 CPU model: IP22

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IEEE P1363 Meeting Notice
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 10:59:00 -0400 (EDT) To: Multiple Recipients of e$pam <e$pam(a)intertrader.com> From: e$pam(a)intertrader.com (e$pam) Reply-To: e$(a)thumper.vmeng.com X-Comment: To unsubscribe, send an email to e$pam-request(a)intertrader.com X-Comment: containing the command "unsubscribe e$pam" Precedence: Bulk Subject: IEEE P1363 Meeting Notice X-orig-from: gor(a)theory.lcs.mit.edu (Raymond Sidney) (by way of rah(a)shipwright.com X-e$pam-source: Various Forwarded by Robert Hettinga ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 24 Oct 1996 21:36:39 GMT From: gor(a)theory.lcs.mit.edu (Raymond Sidney) (by way of rah(a)shipwright.com (Robert A. Hettinga)) To: rah(a)shipwright.com Subject: IEEE P1363 Meeting Notice Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science Mime-Version: 1.0 Path: news-central.tiac.net!news-in.tiac.net!news-in3.tiac.net!news.sprintlink.net!ne w s-dc-5.sprintlink.net!voskovec.radio.cz!news.uni-stuttgart.de!news.ruhr-uni-boc h um.de!news.rhrz.uni-bonn.de!RRZ.Uni-Koeln.DE!news.gtn.com!blackbush.xlink.net!t a nk.news.pipex.net!pipex!news.be.innet.net!INbe.net!news.nl.innet.net!INnl.net!h u nter.premier.net!news.mathworks.com!news.kei.com!uhog.mit.edu!grapevine.lcs.mit

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No Subject
by Bovine Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

It seems fair to say that if power was morely fairly distributed around the world, we could expect to see more cryptologists of the class of Chaum and Goldwasser, since third world people with similairly high aptitudes for the subject could think about these higher level (in terms of Maslow) things instead of how to avoid starvation. It also seems fair that we could expect the publication of more cryptological schemes that put governments at a disadvantage if the countless, starving third world people were just above the level of starvation and thinking of government collapse instead. These two points suggest that the millions of deaths in the third world have delayed the very collapse of governments that cryptoanarchists dream about in their beds at night. Now it could be argued that this is all in the past since cypherpunks already posses enough knowledge about cryptology to acheive the collapse of governments and all they are doing is waiting for the inevitable now and flaming each other to pass the time. :) What will cryptoanarchists do after the collapse of governments, though? If the ultimate goal of cryptoanarchy is to transfer power into the hands of the information producers and traders, then it seems that the third world presents a huge reservoir of potential information producers. Thus, cypherpunks ought to care about the conditions there. Here is a scenario cryptoanarchists might enjoy: Some corporations which rely primary on the actualization of scientific ideas into products along information traders buy the ownership of the resources from other corporations in the third world, and turn them back over to the people there. The third world people are then free from low-level material worries and can put their energy into information production, which the people controlling the information trade are careful to reward properly. Note that, under this scenario, the improvement of conditions in the Third World does not imply a diminishing of the power of the West with respect to the rest of the world: The West will still dominate the actualization of scientific ideas into products as they already own the capital to do that. Also they can will still own the computer networks the information is traded on. Thus, the impact of material resouce loss is minimalized over the long term. Note also that the conditions do not have to be much above the level of guarenteeing non-starvation, either. Consider, for instance, how far Eastern European students are ahead of Western students in terms of scientific and mathematical knowledge. The conditions there can hardly be thought of as being much above non-starvation levels. Under this scheme the information traders benefit. The corporations which actualize scientific ideas benefit. The corporations which sell their ownership of third world resources benefit. The information producers in the third world benefit. The non-information producers in the third world no longer starve, as well, so people can feel better that they are living in a happier world! Once Westerners start exploiting untapped information production resevoirs like Eastern Europe and the former Soviet Union, all this good stuff might actually happen, too! :)

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No Subject
by Bovine Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

It seems fair to say that if power was morely fairly distributed around the world, we could expect to see more cryptologists of the class of Chaum and Goldwasser, since third world people with similairly high aptitudes for the subject could think about these higher level (in terms of Maslow) things instead of how to avoid starvation. It also seems fair that we could expect the publication of more cryptological schemes that put governments at a disadvantage if the countless, starving third world people were just above the level of starvation and thinking of government collapse instead. These two points suggest that the millions of deaths in the third world have delayed the very collapse of governments that cryptoanarchists dream about in their beds at night. Now it could be argued that this is all in the past since cypherpunks already posses enough knowledge about cryptology to acheive the collapse of governments and all they are doing is waiting for the inevitable now and flaming each other to pass the time. :) What will cryptoanarchists do after the collapse of governments, though? If the ultimate goal of cryptoanarchy is to transfer power into the hands of the information producers and traders, then it seems that the third world presents a huge reservoir of potential information producers. Thus, cypherpunks ought to care about the conditions there. Here is a scenario cryptoanarchists might enjoy: Some corporations which rely primary on the actualization of scientific ideas into products along information traders buy the ownership of the resources from other corporations in the third world, and turn them back over to the people there. The third world people are then free from low-level material worries and can put their energy into information production, which the people controlling the information trade are careful to reward properly. Note that, under this scenario, the improvement of conditions in the Third World does not imply a diminishing of the power of the West with respect to the rest of the world: The West will still dominate the actualization of scientific ideas into products as they already own the capital to do that. Also they can will still own the computer networks the information is traded on. Thus, the impact of material resouce loss is minimalized over the long term. Note also that the conditions do not have to be much above the level of guarenteeing non-starvation, either. Consider, for instance, how far Eastern European students are ahead of Western students in terms of scientific and mathematical knowledge. The conditions there can hardly be thought of as being much above non-starvation levels. Under this scheme the information traders benefit. The corporations which actualize scientific ideas benefit. The corporations which sell their ownership of third world resources benefit. The information producers in the third world benefit. The non-information producers in the third world no longer starve, as well, so people can feel better that they are living in a happier world! Once Westerners start exploiting untapped information production resevoirs like Eastern Europe and the former Soviet Union, all this good stuff might actually happen, too! :)

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(no subject)
by Michael Cortes 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

unsuscribe cypherpunks

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Fed Ct hrg re Diffie-Hellman & Hellman-Merkle patents
by Greg Broiles 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

A hearing is scheduled in federal district court in San Jose for 10/30 at 10:00 AM on _Schlafly v. Public Key Partners_ and _RSA Datasec v. Cylink_. The hearing is on defendant Cylink's motion(s) for summary judgment regarding the validity of the Diffie-Hellman and Hellman-Merkle patents. The district court is located at 280 S. First in San Jose. Judge Williams is in Courtroom 4 on the 5th floor. There are 12 matters scheduled at 10:00 AM so it's unlikely that this matter will be heard at exactly 10:00. (It's listed as fifth in the court calendar in The Register and the Daily Journal, but I've got no clue about their algorithm for calling cases.) I don't know if it will be interesting or boring. The fewer metal things you bring the faster you can get through the metal detectors. More information is available at <http://www.cruzio.com/~schlafly> and <http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1005230/0000950005-96-000312.txt>. -- Greg Broiles | "We pretend to be their friends, gbroiles(a)netbox.com | but they fuck with our heads." http://www.io.com/~gbroiles | |

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Tim May is a fine person.
by anonymous＠miron.vip.best.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tim May is the author of "The Crypto Anarchist Manifesto" and the "Cypherpunks FAQ". These seminal works do much to promote the cypherpunk concept, whereby ordinary people can limit the power of government to snoop on their communications, by using the power of cryptography. By tirelessly promoting strong unescrowed cryptography, Tim May frightens those that would enslave us all. His opposition to the oppressive ITAR regs puts Tim May among those who work to advance the development of culture and against those who would work to suppress it. Much of the time devoted to these concerns could have been devoted to purely personal goals. Tim May must be hailed as a truly noble supporter of the advance of freedom and humanity.

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[NEWS] Cuba and the Internet
by E. Allen Smith 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I wonder what addresses they'll be using? I can't recall a Cuba domain, but I may easily be mistaken. If some consistent pattern can be found, cgi scripts could block them from getting to technically useful data, thus decreasing Cuba's economic viability further. -Allen > ______________________________________________________________________ > Schoolhouse Videos and CD's > ______________________________________________________________________ > Cuba to open Internet link, but only for some > __________________________________________________________________________ > Copyright © 1996 Nando.net > Copyright © 1996 Reuter Information Service > HAVANA (Oct 5, 1996 12:36 p.m. EDT) - Cuba will establish links with > the Internet from next week, but will initially allow only selected > scientific and other state institutions to have access to the > international information network, official Cuban media said Saturday. > The ruling Communist Party newspaper Granma said the state-run > National Center for Automized Exchange of Information (CENIAI), > designated as the national provider of the service, would set up the > link next Friday. > Cuban authorities said in June that access to the Internet would be > defined by Cuba's interests and priority would be given to individuals > and bodies with most relevance to the country's life and development. > Granma said the Internet link give Cuba access to a bank of world > knowledge and enable it to present its point of view to the world, > including in areas such as scientific advances. [...] > Copyright © 1996 Nando.net

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[NEWS] (late, sorry) Airline Tracking Bill signed
by E. Allen Smith 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> BARRON'S Online - Market Surveillance for the Financial Elite > ______________________________________________________________________ > Centura > ______________________________________________________________________ > President signs aviation bill with clause opposed by labor unions > __________________________________________________________________________ > Copyright © 1996 Nando.net > Copyright © 1996 The Associated Press > WASHINGTON (Oct 9, 1996 11:12 a.m. EDT) -- President Clinton today > signed into law an aviation spending bill he cheered for its airline > safety and counterterrorism provisions but that angers one of the > Democrats' biggest backers: organized labor. > "It will improve the security of air travel, it will carry forward our > fight against terrorism," Clinton said. "Americans will not only feel > safer, they will be safer." A: highly doubtful; B: what's that quote about Liberty and Security? I'd comment on the increased searches that, from what I've seen, they'll do no good whatsoever. I was searched on going through the Newark airport, and had a _lot_ of hardback books in my suitcase... which the security drone completely failed to riffle through to see if they were hollowed out with explosives inside. Given the commonness of books as hiding places, this would appear obvious... but what do you expect when people are selected for such jobs by piss tests, "background checks" (e.g., not having any political thoughts in their head other than pro-government ones), and Affirmative Action? > The counterterrorism provisions reflected several recommendations made > by the White House Commission on Aviation Safety and Security, created > on July 25 by Clinton in the aftermath of the crash of TWA Flight 800 > off Long Island. > Speaking at the bill-signing ceremony, Attorney General Janet Reno > called the legislation "another stage in our battle to secure our > people from the danger of terrorism." Unfortunately, her retirement due to Parkinson's won't help matters, at least from how the current political situation looks. > Clinton made no mention of the provision in the bill that has upset > organized labor. At least there's that to say for the dammed bill. > Despite the flap over the Federal Express provision, the aviation > spending bill won Clinton's approval because of its central features: > authorizing $19 billion over two years for airport improvement, > maintenance and security. > The security provisions, such as requiring background checks of > baggage handlers, are among a host of new actions Clinton has pushed > to combat the threat of terrorism. [...] > Clinton was introduced at the White House ceremony by Doug Smith, who > lost his daughter in the Oct. 31, 1994, crash of a commuter plane in > Roselawn, Ind., and who is now president of the National Air Disaster > Alliance, a family support group. > Smith thanked Clinton for the legislation, which he called "a major > step in the healing process for each of us." He called a moment of > silence for air disaster victims. Standard emotional politicking. I have every sympathy with the victims, their families, and their friends (one of whom I know, from the TWA 737 explosion)... but emotion isn't how to decide to pass laws. > The bill also authorizes the government to produce computer "profiles" > of passengers to track of travel patterns or other indicators that > raise suspicion of a security risk. > Flight lists also could be matched with lists of known terrorists > compiled by intelligence and law enforcement agencies. Similar methods > have been used in drug interdiction efforts in recent years. I suspect my family won't be seeing me as much... > Copyright © 1996 Nando.net

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