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by Bovine Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Wed, 6 Nov 1996 stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com wrote: > Headline: > >> AUSTRALIA - CENSORS STRIKE AT INTERNET, LANS - Western Australia's > State Government says it will seek to censor all computer > transmissions of offensive material after its censorship act came > into force last Friday. [Newsbytes, 67 words] > > Probably not as competent as Singapore at enforcement, > but what do people know about it? I'll check with the Aus EFA and get back to you on the above. Hmmm, I wonder if a home user with a networked computer in say his lounge and another in his study will be guilty of a crime if he sends an electronic (and offensive) message to that other node! Press 'N' now if your not interested in a tounge in cheek brief on Australian politics this week... Action such as the above by WA would not suprise me it..of course its been tried before and defeated but that doesn't stop our political thugs here, they just put it on the backburner for a year and try again until people get tired of responding and pass it by default. Hell last week a federal member from WA spent 20 minutes ranting in parliament why all domestic cats (and feral cats) in Australia should be destroyed (Pussy Hater) whilst Australia's economy continues to slide, manufacturing moves offshore and our already record unemployment continues to rise. Semi-auto firearms were banned here this month (even though the Prime Minister stated earlier that he knew it wouldn't solve 'The Problem'), including semi-auto shotguns. All other firearms are now hard to obtain (must show a valid _reason_ for obtaining a permit for each individual firearm, including air rifles - note the protection of ones life is not a reason..its specifically excluded in the legislation); double edged knives are now a prohibited import. [Note: sling shots are already banned so that leaves just spears, bows and stones to be legislated against and Australia will be projectile-weapon free]. A local member was asked if police would still be carrying guns now that The Problem was solved and he responded with..no, there's still dangerous criminals out there; without realising the irony of his statement. Hmmmmm. This morning I read in the paper that my local city council is going to pass a regulation that will enable them to gas my cat (Lots of Pussy Haters here) if it eats a bird, 'strays' off my property, or generally has the nerve to make itself noticed. There is talk of banning 'protection' type dog breeds after an old women was killed recently, supposedly by a Rotty. A police sgt told a WA poliscum that a stolen car incident he investigated 3 weeks ago could only have been done by criminals using information obtained from the internet (yeah thats how ALL the crims learn hotwiring). This was then reported to the WA parliament as factual. Meanwhile our Foreign Minister (the same intellectual giant that recently spoke to the CEO of the US Reserve bank then spilled his guts to the press about the US Reserve Banks' intentions wrt interest rates - and awoke the next morning and found, much to his suprise, a bit of a market ruffle in full swing) today made a commitment to the UN that we would be taking steps with respect to multi-culturalism and native reconciliation, like some arse-licker at the international-cocktail party. Well at least it's now clear he is answerable to the UN for domestic policy. Our PM (Little Johnny 'flaK jacket' Howard) made a statement recently that his election would usher in a new era of free speech, however, now that an independant member with apparantly substantial grass roots support suggests politically incorrect things like reducing immigration, cutting the 50 hours a week child care for unemployed stay at home single mothers and the billions spent on ineffective aboriginal bodies all of parliament wants her to shut up. She has received death threats from Vietnamise drug gangs for expressing these views but she should be OK now because firearms are illegal. This week a recently retired Supreme Court Judge was named in parliament was named in parliament (under parliamentary privelege) as receiving favoured treatment by a commission investigating child sex charges. Apparantly the shock was so severe that he was forced to commit suicide that very night after insisting his innocence. The government side called for her dismissal (seemingly not because he was named but because he chose to kill himself) and suggested limitations on parliamentary speech. The good judge must not have had enough faith in his own legal system to trust his reputation to it and face a court of law. Police are also under investigation on child sex charges by that same body. Now you point out that if I say fuck here (Ooops thats illegal now) I can expect armed thugs kicking down my door to drag me back to WA for trial. I guess anyone state side better cancel any plans to visit our little autocracy here now, especially John, after all the message is being bounced into WA from his computer and if the legislation is like the laughable bill that was attempted to be introduced into New South Wales earlier this year he'll be in big trouble (i know this will come as a frightening shock to him). I better go find myself a good throwing rock, I think I here the sound of jack-boots on my path.

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Sony/Philips has trouble exporting Web TV's (fwd)
by Ray Arachelian 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 15:59:04 -0500 (EST) From: v0!d <voidmstr(a)primenet.com> To: Multiple recipients of list <wwwac(a)echonyc.com> Subject: Sony/Philips has trouble exporting Web TV's (fwd) >> >> From Electronic Buyers' News: >> >> October 28, 1996 >> Issue: 1030 >> Section: News >> >> CODE LIMIT EXCEEDED >> >> By Jack Robertson >> >> Washington - New Internet-television systems from Sony Corp. and >> Philips Electronics Co. are technically munitions under U.S. export >> controls and cannot be shipped to the companies' worldwide sales >> networks, it was disclosed last week. >> >> Sony officials said the company's TV set-top box designed by WebTV of >> Palo Alto, Calif., includes a state-of-the-art 128-bit code encryption >> system for electronic commerce. This far exceeds the 40-bit encryption >> code permissible for export under the U.S. Munitions Control List. >> >> Philips also makes a WebTV set-top Internet box at its Magnavox TV >> plant in Knoxville, Tenn., and is similarly barred from shipping the >> unit to sales channels around the world. >> >> Both global electronic giants face immediate competition in the >> emerging TV-Internet surfing market from other Japanese, South Korean, >> and European set-makers that don't face the U.S. encryption >> controls. They now join the U.S. computer industry, which has long >> protested that the outmoded encryption export curbs are causing them >> to forfeit overseas sales of PCs and workstations to foreign rivals. >> >> President Clinton last month proposed lifting the level of encryption >> export controls from the present 40-bit code word to 56 bits, but only >> if a trap door is embedded in the cipher to allow law enforcement >> agencies to decode wiretapped messages. Clinton is expected shortly to >> sign an executive order putting the new control limits into effect. >> >> The pending 56-bit-code threshold doesn't help the Sony or Philips >> Web-surfing TV systems - nor most U.S. computer companies that build >> systems with encryption exceeding even the new control limit. Both >> Netscape and Microsoft Web-browsing software includes 128-bit code >> encryption, surpassing export curbs. >> >> Zenith Electronics Co., maker of a Web-surfing TV set, isn't concerned >> about the encryption controls, since it sells only in the U.S. market >> where the curbs don't apply. >> >> Divicom Inc., based in Milpitas, Calif., must get an export license >> from the U.S. State Department for every exported cable TV front-end >> encoder, which includes 128-bit code word, according to Tom >> Lookabough, the company's sales manager. He said the license review >> process can take eight weeks or more, a troublesome delay that foreign >> competitors don't face. >> >> Divicom and Scientific Atlanta both said their new digital TV set-top >> boxes include encryption that exceeds allowable export limits - but >> virtually all sales so far are in the U.S. market. As digital-box >> production ramps up, the companies would like to sell overseas, but >> run into the export control ban that puts them at a severe >> disadvantage against the foreign competitors aggressively entering the >> set-top market. >> >> President Clinton's encryption export control changes include an >> industry-favored provision to take the category off the State >> Department's Munitions Control List and shift responsibility to the >> Commerce Department. >> Dennis Wilen : WWW Design, Production and Consulting voidmstr's law: bandwidth expands to fit the waste available voidmstr(a)primenet.com http://www.primenet.com/~voidmstr 2385 Roscomare Road, Bel Air CA 90077 voice: 310-471-7849

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Bernstein hearing, Nov 8 CANCELED!
by John Gilmore 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Judge Patel has decided that she already knows enough, based on the papers submitted by both sides, to decide our motion for a preliminary injunction to protect Dan Bernstein as he teaches a class on cryptography in January. She also says that she will decide our motion for partial summary judgement (from the September 20th hearing) at the same time. So, THERE WILL BE NO HEARING ON NOVEMBER 8TH! DON'T COME, WE WON'T BE THERE. Apologies for the short notice. It's all the notice the legal team got. I'll let you know as soon as she releases her decision. John Gilmore

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[PRIVACY][BLACKNET] Potential Analyst?
by Brian D Williams 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Dimitri Vulis >#4k Burns St, Forest Hills,NY 11375-3506 >(718)261-6839 >Source: http://www.yahoo.com (Four11 people search) >Birthday: December 29 >Source: http://www.boutell.com/birthday.cgi/december/29 >D&M Consulting Services (DM-DOM) > 67-67 Burns Street > Forest Hills, NY 11375 > Domain Name: DM.COM > Administrative Contact: > Administration, PSINet Domain (PDA4) >psinet-domain-admin(a)PSI.COM > (703) 904-4100 > Technical Contact, Zone Contact: > Network Information and Support Center (PSI-NISC) >hostinfo(a)psi.com > (518) 283-8860 > Record last updated on 31-Oct-96. > Record created on 19-Jun-91. > Domain servers in listed order: > NS.PSI.NET 192.33.4.10 > NS2.PSI.NET 38.8.50.2 > Source: InterNIC The Pro's say that analysts are born not made. If so whoever wrote this appears to show potential..... Send resume to BLACKNET..... ;) Brian

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[pure noise] filtering Re: "censorship in cyberspace"???
by Sean Roach 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 03:29 PM 11/5/96 -0800, Vladimir Z. Nuri wrote: ... >the "automatic prose generator" technology out there leaves a lot >of other interesting ideas. an ingenious software engineer >with a flair for writing could create some pretty sophisticated >grammars that automatically generate text yet are impossible >to detect over perhaps even dozens of messages output by them. >they could even have their own personalities and writing styles, >if the software engineer were creative and devious enough. ... Consider, however, that when computers match humans in the ability to generate coherent sentences, they might have something useful to say. Even now, search, engine designers are fighting with "web spam" artists who fill thier pages with various "key" words or statements to ensnare hapless browsers. These designers are developing filtering systems to combat this, and these filters could conceivably be ported to the e-mail community to filter machine generated text. There should be a point where the prose spun by asimov's "positronic brains" and that woven by a humans own "natural" brain would be indistingushable. At this point, we might want to hear their opinions, for they should be as valid as any other.

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[noise] Re: Any Info for Sen. Pressler....
by Sean Roach 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Per Bill Stewart's comment. ... >At this point, I think he's now Ex-Senator Pressler, >if I saw the election returns I think I saw. ... Actually he would be a lame duck. Our elected officials don't take office the moment the returns come in. He has a little while left.

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Who is "M"?
by Lucky Green 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I met a person named "M" at Tim's party a month ago. Would somebody please email me some contact info? Thanks, -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred Member JPFO. "America's Aggressive Civil Rights Organization"

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Re: CLA_sh0
by Duncan Frissell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 11:46 AM 11/6/96 -0500, John Young wrote: > Unless the West recognizes the power of cultural > conflict, it could perish from ignorance, overconfidence > and complacency. Unless Islam and China recognize the power of Coca Cola, IPOs, blue jeans, TCP/IP, and videos they could perish from lack of interest. DCF "How you gonna keep 'em down on the farm after they've seen Broadway"?

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Re: [NOISE] If the shoe fits, wear it [VULIS]
by networks＠vir.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Rich Graves Wrote: >Yes, this gets to my point. Private censorship tells more about the >censor than about the censored. In this case, John acted properly, and >his credibility has only been enhanced. You are of course free to rant >and rave about his hypocrisy, but expecially since you'll always be able >to post to the list, at least under a nym (the only thing he's prevented >is your reading the list under your own name), you're only proving >yourself to be an idiot. The nature of the Internet means it is extremely difficult for John to prevent Dr. Vulis from either posting using a pseudonym or having messages forwarded to him. IF it were possible to prevent Vulis from either reading messages or posting do you think John would have done that too? Just curious. Alan Majer networks(a)vir.com

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Re: Compromise proposal
by Dave Hayes 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Igor Chudov wrote: > Dave Hayes wrote: > > Improving signal to noise is a laughable goal at a social event of > > more than 100 people, why do people insist upon trying it on the net? > To save time? At the expense of honor? ------ Dave Hayes - Altadena CA, USA - dave(a)jetcafe.org Freedom Knight of Usenet - http://www.jetcafe.org/~dave/usenet An eye for eye only ends up making the whole world blind. -- Gandhi

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