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Whom can you trust with your keys -- government version
by Hal Abelson 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- The Commerce Department draft crypto export regulations (see http://www.steptoe.com/commerce.htm) include the following stipulation on Key Recovery Agents: Evidence of an individual's suitability and trustworthiness [to act as a key recovery agent] shall include: (i) Information indicating that the individual(s): (A) Has no criminal convictions of any kind or pending criminal charges of any kind; (B) Has not breached fiduciary responsibilities (e.g., has not violated any surety or performance bonds); and (C) Has favorable results of a credit check; or, (ii) Information that the individual(s) has an active U.S. government security clearance of Secret or higher issued or updated within the last five years. It's nice to know that we can trust ex-cons, frauds, and deadbeats to hold our keys, provided that they have obtained a Secret clearance. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.4, an Emacs/PGP interface iQCVAwUBMrBrBfiGKLV9Y6XFAQH53AP5AXAG5ys1ju6R1imLJYTKQcgDtNec9YBw kSimzx/GIOAf0eWJFTU+fMTsJp9g7K1LasNYRYfXM2aqPuwB6UJ2PU1JKhi2u8ew Qk06TllDvhzGwWTCAd53J616181srw3Gb+lARvBQT4m/1trRNDR24d0rdxS7jxPk ytwNprO06zQ= =CXXb -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Redlining
by E. Allen Smith 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: IN%"dthorn(a)gte.net" "Dale Thorn" 12-DEC-1996 14:56:52.69 >Actually, there is not only good evidence for the environmental argument, >but you can reason it out yourself if you give attention to some things >that don't make it into most discussions on this topic. Yes, there are strong arguments for the environment being the determining factor... there are also strong arguments (such as interracial adoption still leaving blacks below the average IQ of adopted siblings) for it being genetics. We won't be able to find out which is which until we know what the genetic determinants of intelligence are, which will take some time. (Using current techniques, several hundred years at the minimum... but I'm not prepared to predict how good techniques will get). As I previously stated, I don't believe it is any part genetic. -Allen

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Re: Redlining
by E. Allen Smith 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: IN%"mjmiski(a)execpc.com" "Matthew J. Miszewski" 12-DEC-1996 11:32:36.79 >Just wanted to clear up that my reference to student loans was not meant to >start a discussion of the granting of _those_ loans. It was meant to spark >a discussion of the lending to those borrowers *after* they graduate. As a >group, their default rate is generally high. And yet, as a group, the >extension of credit to these people is not systematically denied (as in >redlining). >I take responsibility for the thread being confused as I believe my first >mention of it was unclear. mea culpa. I see... that explains your apparantly nonsensical answer that the guarantees on student loans don't make any difference. Quite alright; we all make mistakes. I would like to suggest that the essential problem in determining loans to those who have just graduated is that of headaches in gathering sufficient information; namely, the cost of finding out "is this a good school" and "how good are this person's prospects" are sufficiently high so as to make up for the default rates. As previously mentioned by Dale Thorn, the inclusion in this figure of various trade schools is also a (related) problem, one that Clinton's proposal of student loans for 2 years of college for _everyone_ would make worse. -Allen

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Re: Redlining
by E. Allen Smith 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: IN%"ichudov(a)algebra.com" 11-DEC-1996 19:45:12.83 >A good question. It is based on the theory that every person has a >"utility" function in their mind. This function determines the "worth" >of money and worthiness of risk. >If that function as a function of income is strictly concave Except in the case of a consumer for whom the lower end is essentially no different than 0 - e.g., a minimum amount for survival - having a concave utility function for money (as opposed to less-convertible goods/services) is irrational. While I am in favor of allowing people to be irrational if they so desire, I am not in favor of governmental rules (e.g., coercive rules) being determined by irrationality. See my comments on emotion to Matt M. -Allen

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17 Dec '03

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by Santa Claus 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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17 Dec '03

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by Santa Claus 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: Neural Nets
by geeman＠best.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

This comes up once in a while --- it appears an inappropriate approach, they say, since the solution space for the problem consists of exactly one spike, in the vast sea of all possible solutions ... there is no smooth contour over which to minimize the net's error function, and finding the one spike which is the correct result is no more efficient in such a case than any other exhaustive search. This argument would break down if there were detectable biases in the crypto algorithm that you could exploit. But then whether a nn would be the tool of choice in such a case may be uncertain. At 01:00 PM 12/12/96 GMT, you wrote: >Hi Folkd > >Just sat through a lecture on an itroduction to Neural Nets. > >Thought. Does anybody know of any tools that use Neural Nets to break >ciphers? > >Cheers > >Ste > >

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Re: Java DES breaker?
by dlv＠bwalk.dm.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

More than one person writes: > Vulis wrote: > > "Mark M." <markm(a)voicenet.com> writes: > > > compiles Java to a stand-alone executable. Details at > > > http://webhackers.cygnus.com/webhackers/projects/java.html . > > It would be very foolish to touch any shit that comes out of Cygnus. > > Why? (specifically, I am about to try using a GCC port to WinNT, and > I would like to know _why_ you think their work is shit). First, because it's King John "Lackbrain" Gilmore's company. :-) Second, because they hire unqualified people (rather, people whose qualifications have nothing to do with the job) and they've already fucked up every project they've ever touched. Third, because they steal from the people who originally developed the free software by charging money for the non-existent "support". I'm quite happy with MS VC++ for NT. I doubt that Cygnus can do a good job porting gcc to NT. People much better than the assholes at Cygnus have not done a great job porting gcc to OS/2. If I want gcc, I just run it on the Linux box, or a Sun box. Fuck Cygnus. --- Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps

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