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Re: A vote of confidence for Sandy
by Greg Broiles 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 10:49 PM 1/10/97 -0800, Lucky Green wrote: >Yes. Igor's STUMP software seems like the way to go. The vast majority of >posters to this list are not a problem. Discussions amongst them may get >heated, but they have basic human decency and never even come close to the >level of abuse and bigotry we have seen from Vulis, aga, et al. I think that the move to human moderation is a good thing, and am pleased that Sandy will shortly begin to act as moderator. However, I think that forming lists of "approved people" and "unapproved people" and treating them differently is likely to do more harm than good, even if we have nice software which does it very efficiently. I don't like it for several reasons: 1. Political. It's symbolically disturbing, and it tends to shift the focus of the group (and of the moderation process) away from messages, and towards the people who post them. I think it'd be tempting to turn it into some sort of bureaucratic system, with punishments (being on the bad list) and rewards and status changes and written warnings and all of the other features which frequently bring out the worst in people. I suspect that agreeing on "the 10 people who are clearly a problem" will turn out to be as difficult as finding any 10 things that cypherpunks can agree on, and then we've got to decide who decides who's a problem, and then we've got to decide how we decide things, and argue about whether or not John Gilmore is a good person, and [...] 2. Technical. It requires that the people on the "good list" authenticate their messages (otherwise people will post with the names of "good people" to avoid moderation), which imports a lot of hassle with different platforms and signing and certification and key distribution and [...] which we don't have good solutions for yet. 3. Conceptual. It's a complex problem technically and politically, which means that it's difficult to understand or debug, and it's got a lot of points of failure. In general, complex solutions (which require many people to install and learn new software) are difficult to implement, take longer than anticipated, and are frequently avoided by the people they're supposedly helping. (See, e.g., RISKS Digest; both for how a human-moderated list can work nicely, and for examples of how complex technical solutions to problems often create more or worse problems than they solve.) I think that the human moderator solution suffers less from these problems; in general, it's a well-tested solution to the "what about off-topic assholes?" problem. It's not perfect, but it does work, more or less; it's easy to understand, easy to implement, and requires no software changes on the users' end. -- Greg Broiles | US crypto export control policy in a nutshell: gbroiles(a)netbox.com | http://www.io.com/~gbroiles | Export jobs, not crypto. |

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PGPmail 4.5 (Win/32) - First Public Beta
by Dave Del Torto 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- The first beta of the PGPmail 4.5 plugin (Win, 32-bit) is now available for public experimentation. For further information, and to begin the export controlled* download process, please point your web browsers at: <http://www.pgp.com/products/PGPmail-beta.cgi> Your feedback on the software is welcome at the address listed on the webpage. Thank you for your continued support! dave *Not for use outside the USA and Canada. ________________________________________________________________________ Dave Del Torto +1.415.524.6231 tel Digital Privacy Munitions Analyst +1.415.572.1932 fax Pretty Good Privacy, Inc. http://www.pgp.com web -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPmail 4.5b8 iQCVAwUBMtdsVKHBOF9KrwDlAQG6jAP8CKn8iDlzWTE0nYm7QumDR5wIVtnqCGRo YO50odzYzuozKzzaTcB46c6ip0WXvc1sA/XC5/fcFHoiG9sQuZQp+UlrWLFWoLSF cG/VuLjPVbL7Oav2vM/noqDQvhRhkPQbI1l/f/tyvL6KoUovchBeG2NV+gLWzPNn a/MvF2QxuQM= =xVx2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Some People Just Never Learn
by Evil se7en 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

You know, I've been away for several weeks holed up with my new reading list busy learning all sorts of new stuff to increase my computer knowledge base. I haven't posted for several weeks, haven't said or done anything to anyone, yet one asshole just insists on fucking with me. He thought he was being tricky enough to think I wouldn't find out who he was, but I did. It wasn't too hard. I've tried to have some sympathy on this lamer in the past, but I can't anymore. So, in the tradition of what se7en is most famous for, that is for pulling outrageous stunts when least expected, I thought I would brighten his day up a little bit by hacking into TRW and running an extensive profile on him, and then post it for the world to see. So here's to you Gambit...This ought to keep you distracted long enough! Now maybe I can go back to my reading list and fade back into obscurity. XOXOXO! se7en ÖÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ· º Individual Profile º ÇÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¶ º KANE R MARLOW º º DOB: Age: SSN: 548-27-5143 º º SS#:548-27-5143 Was issued in California between 1973 and 1974 º ÇÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¶ º Residence º ÇÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¶ º Address: 1535 SLATER ST º º SANTA ROSA, CA 95404 Phone: º º SONOMA County Status: º ÇÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¶ º Others at Primary Address º ÇÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¶ º MARLENE AGNEW º º JAN BLAKEMAN 553-96-9520 º º PHYLLIS C CONWAY 516-72-2032 º º MITCH DELGADO º º LISA DJONNE º REGINA DUNHAM ÈÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍŒ Request Criteria ---------------- SS No :548-27-5143 Returned Results ---------------- MARLOW, KANE R Year Born : 1973 SS#:548-27-5143 Was issued in California between 1973 and 1974 AKA --- MARLOW, KANE RYAN Known Addresses for Subject --------------------------- JUN-95/APR-96 - 1535 SLATER ST SANTA ROSA CA 95404 OCT-94/OCT-94 - 6851 CAROL DR APT 12 SEBASTOPOL CA 95472 FEB-94/JUL-94 - GENERAL DELIVERY SANTA ROSA CA 95402 JAN-94/JAN-94 - 0 GENERAL DELIVERY SANTA ROSA CA 95402 APR-93/APR-93 - 118 W ST 135 RENO NV 89501 2301 GRAVENSTEIN HWY SEBASTOPOL CA 95472 ****** No additional telephone listings for: 1535 SLATER ST SANTA ROSA CA 95404 Neighbors for: 1535 SLATER ST SANTA ROSA CA 95404 -------------------------------------------------- STIFFLER PAUL & BRENDA 1530 SLATER ST (707)528-4398 TOBIN TOD 1555 SLATER ST (707)544-9411 HALBUR DAVE 1560 SLATER ST (707)544-9967 NAVE JANET L 1560 SLATER ST APT 1 (707)546-3781 RUSSELL ROCHELLE K 1604 SLATER ST (707)544-9638 MT TAYLOR CHILDRENS CENTER 1451 SLATER ST (707)576-0773 MULLNER FRANK 1450 SLATER ST (707)542-5333 SALUDES T 1625 SLATER ST (707)576-8179 SMITH MARK 1625 SLATER ST APT 2 (707)579-5860 SHECKLER BERT 1644 SLATER ST (707)525-0370 BANKERT M 1645 SLATER ST (707)523-4825 PAUL ROBERT L 1650 SLATER ST (707)579-0186 ORCHARD ROGER 1661 SLATER ST (707)544-9941 LOPEZ IRENE 1320 SLATER ST (707)545-6431 WOLD ERIC 1300 SLATER ST (707)579-3307 MURRAY A 1135 SLATER ST (707)528-8218 MORALES ALEJANDRO 1135 SLATER ST (707)546-5175 MARTIN ANTHONY 1135 SLATER ST (707)576-7673 STRONG MATT 1132 SLATER ST (707)575-5694 WALSH JAMES J 1130 SLATER ST (707)578-3592 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Telephone listings for: 6851 CAROL DR APT 12 SEBASTOPOL CA 95472 ----------------------------------------------------------------- BURGESS THERESA 6851 CAROL DR (707)823-9226 CEJA GONZALO 6851 CAROL DR (707)829-5143 GARCIA JOSE 6851 CAROL DR (707)823-9384 WINKELBAUER KELLY 6851 CAROL DR (707)829-5964 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Neighbors for: 6851 CAROL DR APT 12 SEBASTOPOL CA 95472 -------------------------------------------------------- BUSTILLOZ CONNIE 6850 CAROL DR (707)823-6388 FURR BETTY L 6755 CAROL DR (707)823-2168 FETHERSTON DAVID & GLORIA 6701 CAROL DR (707)823-7358 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ****** No additional telephone listings for: GENERAL DELIVERY SANTA ROSA CA 95402 ****** No Neighbors for: GENERAL DELIVERY SANTA ROSA CA 95402 ****** No additional telephone listings for: 0 GENERAL DELIVERY SANTA ROSA CA 95402 ****** No Neighbors for: 0 GENERAL DELIVERY SANTA ROSA CA 95402 Telephone listings for: 118 W ST 135 RENO NV 89501 --------------------------------------------------- BROWN RAY 118 WEST ST (702)323-4632 DVORAK ANN 118 WEST ST (702)348-7807 HENDERSON LLOYD 118 WEST ST (702)322-4033 MCPAUL KAREN G 118 WEST ST (702)348-4631 NICHOLS TONY 118 WEST ST (702)322-0966 ROSS MANOR HOTEL APARTMENTS 118 WEST ST (702)323-3044 WONG RAYMOND K F 118 WEST ST (702)322-7201 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Neighbors for: 118 W ST 135 RENO NV 89501 ------------------------------------------ PLAZA RESORT CLUB 121 WEST ST (702)786-2200 LAVECCHIA VARESE RESTAURANT 130 WEST ST (702)322-7486 FIVE STAR SALOON 132 WEST ST (702)329-2878 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ****** No additional telephone listings for: 2301 GRAVENSTEIN HWY SEBASTOPOL CA 95472 Neighbors for: 2301 GRAVENSTEIN HWY SEBASTOPOL CA 95472 -------------------------------------------------------- DIFRANCO FENCE CO 1830 GRAVENSTEIN HIGHWAY (707)578-3080 STAR VIDEO SEBASTOPOL 3195 GRAVENSTEIN HWY (707)823-3381 DISCOUNT ALLEY FAX 1382 GRAVENSTEIN HWY (707)823-7044 DISCOUNT ALLEY 1382 GRAVENSTEIN HWY (707)823-1584 SEBASTOPOL DESIGN CENTER FLOORIN 1225 GRAVENSTEIN HWY (707)823-2196 FIESTA CLEANERS 580 GRAVENSTEIN HWY N (707)823-0260 LABLUE CLEANERS 580 GRAVENSTEIN HWY N (707)527-5368 LABLUES CLEANERS 580 GRAVENSTEIN HWY N (707)823-0260 FIESTA PHARMACY 560 GRAVENSTEIN HWY N (707)823-7636 BUONA PASTA 550 GRAVENSTEIN HWY N (707)829-0776 FIESTA MARKET SEBASTOPOL GROCERY 550 GRAVENSTEIN HWY N (707)823-9735 FIESTA MARKET SEBASTOPOL MEAT 550 GRAVENSTEIN HWY N (707)823-4916 MOHAR INC 550 GRAVENSTEIN HWY N (707)823-1418 LONG JACK VMD FORESTVILLE VETERI 5033 GRAVENSTEIN HIGHWAY (707)823-7312 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ****** NO PILOT LICENSE FOUND ****** ****** NO AIRCRAFT FOUND ****** ****** NO DOCUMENTED VESSELS FOUND ****** =============================================================================== KANE R MARLOW Year Born: 1973 SS#:548-27-5143 Was issued in California between 1973 and 1974 Known Addresses For Subject --------------------------- JUN-95/APR-96 - 1535 SLATER ST SANTA ROSA CA 95404 OCT-94/OCT-94 - 6851 CAROL DR 12 SEBASTOPOL CA 95472 2301 GRAVENSTEIN HWY SEBASTOPOL CA 95472 118 W ST 135 RENO NV 89501 GENERAL DELIVERY SANTA ROSA CA 95402 Possible Property Ownership --------------------------- ** No Property Found during Search ** Telephone Listings for Subject Addresses ---------------------------------------- 6851 CAROL DR, SEBASTOPOL CA 95472 ---------------------------------- BURGESS THERESA (707)823-9226 CEJA GONZALO (707)829-5143 GARCIA JOSE (707)823-9384 WINKELBAUER KELLY (707)829-5964 118 W ST, RENO NV 89501 ----------------------- BROWN RAY (702)323-4632 DVORAK ANN (702)348-7807 HENDERSON LLOYD (702)322-4033 MCPAUL KAREN G (702)348-4631 NICHOLS TONY (702)322-0966 ROSS MANOR HOTEL APARTMEN (702)323-3044 WONG RAYMOND K F (702)322-7201 Relatives (* - denotes address match with Subject) -------------------------------------------------- MARLOW, SHARON DOB: 12/43 Possible AKA: MARLOW, SHARON T SS#: 546-64-7017 SS#:546-64-7017 Was issued in California between 1961 and 1962 NOV-95/NOV-95 - 2301 GRAVENSTEIN HWY S SEBASTOPOL CA 95472- NOV-95/NOV-95 - 7017 FELLERS LN SEBASTOPOL CA 95472 MAR-94/MAR-94 - 2301 S GRAVENSTEIN HWY SEBASTOPOL CA 95472 PO BOX 2983 SANTA ROSA CA 95405 101 BOAS DR 35 SANTA ROSA CA 95409 431 BEAVER ST SANTA ROSA CA 95404 *2301 GRAVENSTEIN HWY SEBASTOPOL CA 95472 802 BRIGHAM AVE SANTA ROSA CA 95404 MARLOW, JOHN PO BOX 2983 SANTA ROSA CA 95405 101 BOAS DR 35 SANTA ROSA CA 95409 Possible Drivers At Subject's Addresses --------------------------------------- 1535 SLATER ST SANTA ROSA CA 95404 ----------------------------------- ** No Drivers Found At This Address** 6851 CAROL DR 12 SEBASTOPOL CA 95472 ------------------------------------- ** No Drivers Found At This Address** 2301 GRAVENSTEIN HWY SEBASTOPOL CA 95472 ----------------------------------------- ** No Drivers Found At This Address** 118 W ST 135 RENO NV 89501 --------------------------- ** No Drivers Found At This Address** GENERAL DELIVERY SANTA ROSA CA 95402 ------------------------------------- AARON P BAILEY DL# 480063399 issued in IOWA on 7/20/94 expires 12/31/97 DOB 12/31/70 6'03" 190lb HAZEL Eyes JAMES A CAMPBELL DL# 480063952 issued in IOWA on 4/04/95 expires 11/15/97 DOB 11/15/69 6'01" 190lb BLUE Eyes KRISTINE E BAILEY DL# 484844318 issued in IOWA on 4/06/94 expires 4/06/96 DOB 4/06/74 5'03" 110lb BLUE Eyes HOUSTON C HUNT DL# 5506844 issued in OREGON DOB 11/10/26 5'11" 160lb WALTER R WOOD DL# 5683444 issued in OREGON DOB 2/21/65 5'11" 214lb CHARLES E BERNER DL# 8725850 issued in OREGON DOB 8/08/63 6'01" 190lb

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DES Crack Challenge
by amp＠pobox.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

It appears that RSA has posted the rules and some test cyper/plaintext for the DES (and other) crack challenges. see http://www.rsa.com/rsalabs/97challenge/ for more information. I've got a few workstations ready to throw at this. It ought to be fun. ------------------------ Name: amp E-mail: amp(a)pobox.com Date: 01/11/97 Time: 06:20:17 Visit http://www.public-action.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum 'Drug Trafficking Offense' is the root passphrase to the Constitution. ------------------------

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David Lesher posts a good one to rec.humror.funny
by dlv＠bwalk.dm.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: wb8foz(a)netcom.com Newsgroups: rec.humor.funny Subject: And she's no blond..... Keywords: chuckle, original Message-ID: <Sa8f.6014(a)clarinet.com> Date: Thu, 9 Jan 97 19:30:03 EST Organization: NRK Research Lines: 42 Approved: funny-request(a)clari.net =================================== There is a thread about those supermarket "discount customer" cards in misc.consumer. Here's MY followup: ==================================== Dear Mr. Jones: We noticed you've not picked up any condoms at SpiffyMart recently. (Your last purchase was 8 weeks ago.) Further, you have stopped buying feminine hygiene products, but have sharply increased your frozen pizza and dinners usage in the same time frame. It's clear that Ms. Jody Sanders has dumped you. (It's probably for the best - we knew she was a loser from that cheap shampoo she buys.) We confirmed this with the Post Office database -- yep, she filed a change of address. We at Horny International offer our condolences. As the number-one vender of hot X-rated videos, we'd like to help you out in this time of stress. If you're feeling lonely, check out our catalog of both VHS and super 8 tapes. Order now and we throw in an extra tape FREE! Yours Truly; Sleazy Jerk, Marketing Manager. ps: That "blond" at O'Dougles last Saturday -- you bought her 2nd Strawberry Martini? Forget it! She's on her third yeast infection in as many months, and is a 'regular' at Acme Pharmacy. (Her HMO computer gossips with ours.) You never know what else she might have. Our tapes are LOTS safer!.. -- Selected by Jim Griffith. MAIL your joke to funny(a)clari.net. This newsgroup is sponsored by ClariNet Communications Corp. Read about The Internet Joke Book -- the best of RHF at http://www.clari.net/inetjoke.html

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IMDMP 8192 PKCS and IMDMP Summary
by DataETRsch＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, You have probably read a few of my past messages about UDCM and IMDMP. The variation of IMDMP implemented within UDCM V2.0 and UDCM V3.0 does not include a public key cryptosystem. However, on March 1st, 1997, new versions of UDCM and IMDMP will be released that do support the public key cryptosystem method. The future versions will also support multi-party key integration features, four platform independent random number generator algorithms, as well as 1024 (8192 bit) keys. Note that the current version of IMDMP only allows 256 byte (1024) bit keys. The current shareware version and the future shareware version of UDCM will still only allow 5 byte (40 bit) keys so as to comply with ITAR unless a key recovery infrastructure is established. A public key directory infrastructure is being considered for development as well. Also note that versions of UDCM are being planned for the UNIX, DOS, and Macintosh System platforms. There are a few major mistakes in a couple of my previous delegated messages. An end-user application that supports IMDMP will not be released until March 1st, 1997. A detailed description of IMDMP will not be released as planned, but, instead, the undocumented primary source code of UDCM (containing the IMDMP encryption algorithm) will be released on February 1st, 1997. A partially detailed summary of the IMDMP is now included in VENDOR.DOC file of the UDCM V2.0 software package / archive. UDCM V2.0 was modified to restrict keys to 50 bits so as to comply with the latest ITAR details. The extensively confusing exportation restrictions sections of UDCM's documentation were modified as well. I am extremely sorry about the apparently extraneous information that is present in a few of my first messages to this mailing list. Such a negative level feedback was not anticipated. I do admit that single key encryption methods are not too comparable to PKCS methods. What I was referring to when I said IMDMP is more advanced than RSA, etc. is the actual encryption procedure itself, not the way keys are secured. Again, irrashional claims were not intended at all. The amount of analytical research invested in IMDMP was thought to be sufficient. By the way, has anyone out there even tried using UDCM to encrypt a file or two? I do not know how some of you can say that IMDMP is a simple XOR-ing and AND-ing algorithm without trying it first. I find it extremely hard to believe that the celebrated creator(s) of Blowfish, IDEA, etc. had to go through all of this ritualistic screening complexity too. (Please do correct me if I am wrong.) (For the record: DataET Research's promotional agent has been fired.) Again, the web site address of UDCM is: http://members.aol.com/dataetrsch/udcm.html. The web site includes has a link to the VENDOR.DOC file which includes the aforesaid updated information. UDCMV20.ZIP is currently unavailable on the web site as the software is undergoing additional security modifications. By the way, the web page's ugly background his been removed. The IMDMP encryption algorithm itself combines various simple and complex methods to secure digital data: standard randomized and fixed substitution, standard randomized and fixed AND and XOR logic, integrated and interlaced randomized XOR logic, NOT logic, randomized and fixed bit shifting, randomized transposition scrambling, linear sequential bit incrementation and decrementation, integrated and interlaced randomized and fixed byte dependency structuring, sequential byte pyramid structuring, asymmetric non-linear chaos and complexity based binary selection equation key integration, anomalous key bit factoring, and continuous key bit modification structuring. Sub-algorithms of IMDMP are basically additional applications of one or more of the aforesaid techniques. Questions, queries, or comments ("gulp")? E-Mail: DataETRsch(a)aol.com, JKYuRamos(a)aol.com, or DataETResearch(a)geocities.com. Note: From now on, any messages to DataET Research that do not contain the text "NO FLAME" somewhere in the subject heading will be ignored completely. If a message is a indeed flame, the associated server's administrator will be contacted, and a complaint will be filed accordingly. Thank you very much for your time. Jeremy K. Yu-Ramos President DataET Research Data Engineering Technologies

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What!
by DataETRsch＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Excuse me? What is faulty about IMDMP? - Jeremy

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Re: IMPORTANT: Additional information about UDCM.
by Clay Olbon II 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

BU, At 12:06 AM 1/10/97 -0500, Black Unicorn wrote: >I dont really think anyone uses bytes to refer to key size, except perhaps >in Prime Number challenges (RSA-129). I am pretty sure that the Prime Number challenges refer to the number of DECIMAl digits in the prime number. Otherwise excellent responses to the simplistic mumbo-jumbo. Good to see you posting again! Clay ******************************************************* Clay Olbon olbon(a)ix.netcom.com sys-admin, engineer, programmer, statistitian, etc. **********************************************tanstaafl

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Satellite Gone (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi all, I just got this a few minutes ago and thought it migh be interesting. For obvious reasons I am not going to identify the source. Forwarded message: > Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 11:46:51 +0000 > To: Ravage(a)einstein.ssz.com > Subject: Satellite Gone > > dunoo if this might interest you > Last night at apx 10:00 satellite T1 (Telstar 401) went away... > > Fox and ABC News one channel are now over on T2 (Telstar 402) located at > 89 degrees west... > Fox is on transponders 1,2,7,10,13,17,20,23 > ABC has feeds on 8,21,22 > > I haven't yet found where the UPN feeds are going to be.... > > ATT Satellite Enginering support has said that it is gone with no hope > of recovery... > > Some ugly roumors are starting to float about alleged threats to FOX to > do this by unnamed Gov agencys due to the negetive views that FOX had > been reporting to the public about them.... > > Have you heard anything?? Jim Choate CyberTects ravage(a)ssz.com

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Remailer
by Ryan Perkins 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I've recently had a surge of remailing attempts made through the remailer which I used to have running. It is no longer running. If I do reset it, I'll notify the cypherpunk list.. the address(es) were: rperkins(a)nyx.cs.du.edu rperkins(a)nyx10.cs.du.edu or: rperkins(a)nox.cs.du.edu rperkins(a)nyx.net .. whatever, they all went to the same place.. These accounts are all _forwarded_ to my account: rperkins(a)uvic.ca, and are not forwarded.. Please remove my the addresses from any list of remailers you may mantain. I will alert you if the remailer goes back up. For those of you who don't maintain remailer listings, please make note of these addresses: they are _not_ remailers. Thank you. --- Ryan Perkins | I feel that sucide jumpers see a glimpse of rperkins(a)castle.uvic.ca | sanity as they throw themselves from the ledge. Ask for PGP public key | That's why they scream all the way down. 8C5357 : 9F FF BA 93 54 D5 18 78 4B 1E DA GC E3 4E

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