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Re: ADV Weekly Transcripts
by nobody＠huge.cajones.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Regarding 1968 view of population control: _Stand on Zanzibar_ John Brunner Thanks

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No Subject
by nobody＠huge.cajones.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

BELIEVE the Children! Toto <toto(a)sk.sympatico.ca> writes: > Dale Thorn wrote: > > > > Really? Define _common_. I have lived in the Mid West for about 85% of > > > my life, and I know no one who learned these things from their parents. > > > > C'mon guys. Parents diddling with their kids is more than common - > > probably 1/3 of all fathers do something sexual with one or more > > of their children at some point. People just suppress it. > > I can't believe it could be that common without the government > finding a way to 'tax' it. Def: relative humidity - the sweat on snow's balls as he fucks his sister. BELIEVE the Children!

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Jackboots in Canada
by camcc＠abraxis.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- AP 3/21/97 Quebec Spurred by a new outbreak of bombings, the Canadian government agreed Thursday to toughen laws to help Quebec stamp out a war between motorcycle gangs that has killed more than 30 people. [snip] ...Hell's Angels and Rock Machine...have been battling for control of the illegal drug trade in Canada. Canadian justice minister, Allan Rock, said the measures would include broadening laws on search warrants, electronic eavesdropping and bail conditions for arrested gang members. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 4.5 iQCVAgUBMzKOOiKJGkNBIH7lAQHrAwP+P/0YSzXsLKlLe5YAzOVC0QB31uNhmvim HsSdPbulXccXCV0WIeG5uCtzCLXliR759KunfxEs2GithcIpfcDDKa4SFJv9+SVi PqmWXAxs+qNQ/uQqsDo97zuk+tNhO0631XRkh1LS+tL9Q6pCJfSpNl3Ntvhtyafv OD01c5tLwts= =AqwJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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BXA on Crypto Plans
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Excerpt of BXA head William Reinsch statement on Goodlatte's SAFEncryption Bill HR 695 on March 20, 1997: The Administration has stated on numerous occasions that we do not support mandatory key escrow and key recovery. Our objective is to enable the development and establishment of a voluntary key management system for public-key based encryption. We believe the Administration's policy is succeeding in bringing key recovery products to the marketplace. Our attention is now turning toward how we can best facilitate the development of the key management infrastructure that will support those products. To that end, we will shortly submit legislation intended to do the following: Expressly confirm the freedom of domestic users to choose any type or strength of encryption. Explicitly state that participation in the key management infrastructure is voluntary. Set forth legal conditions for the release of recovery information to law enforcement officials pursuant to lawful authority and provides liability protection for key recovery agents who have properly released such information. Criminalizes the misuse of keys and the use of encryption to further a crime. Offers, on a voluntary basis, firms that are in the business of providing public cryptography keys the opportunity to obtain government recognition, allowing them to market the trustworthiness implied by government approval. ---------- Full statement: http://jya.com/bxahr695.htm

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[alt.best.of.cypherpunks]
by Bryce 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Thanks for the laugh. - ------- Forwarded Message From: snow <snow(a)smoke.suba.com> Subject: Re: PGP on AOL To: harka(a)nycmetro.com Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 07:46:08 -0600 (CST) Cc: cypherpunks(a)toad.com > Hi there, > I want to help a friend of mine to set up PGP. She's using Win 95 and > is on AOL. Can anybody recommend some good shells, that would make > make it easier for her? Remington .20 Gauge. Use the finest shot you can find, it tends to penetrate walls less. Good luck. - ------- End of Forwarded Message Zooko PGP sig follows -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2i Comment: Auto-signed under Unix with 'BAP' Easy-PGP v1.1b2 iQB1AwUBMzKSYUjbHy8sKZitAQHrUgL/TC6JSEVU8QZq00WGt0Yp76AT9pPdgog0 3IUpFE17b+QPz9Lwn1FprL6oaSnAZgz7qnuGj+nel3VNd1R/Tjfa/5qnFiDj++q7 a1+ScrPkfZKQy9DaL9VCavqvTZNoyur0 =7yuN -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: FINALLY, "SOME" TRUTH Re: Anonymous Nymserver: anon.nymserver.com
by Kent Crispin 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Fri, Mar 21, 1997 at 03:06:41AM -0600, Toto wrote: > Attila T. Hun wrote, in blood: [...] > > > > you got that one right! > > just the ability to _backtrack_ into the algorithms is a start. > > One piece of clear text and you're toast. > > You can't tell me the guy who designed the Rubik cube didn't know > how to 'beat' it when he was done. With all due respect, Toto, this is not a valid point. It is easy for someone to design and implement something they can't beat. Whether PKZ designed in, or was coerced into installing, a backdoor into PGP is an interesting speculation, but immaterial. The only real data you have is the code itself. -- Kent Crispin "No reason to get excited", kent@songbird.com,kc@llnl.gov the thief he kindly spoke... PGP fingerprint: B1 8B 72 ED 55 21 5E 44 61 F4 58 0F 72 10 65 55 http://songbird.com/kent/pgp_key.html

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UK TTP Paper
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forward from Cyberia-L: Making absolutely no comment on the subject of licensing of certification authorities, you may be interested in a UK paper entitled LICENSING OF TRUSTED THIRD PARTIES FOR THE PROVISION OF ENCRYPTION SERVICES - Public Consultation Paper on Detailed Proposals for Legislation, March 1997. You can obtain a full document at http://www.dti.gov.uk/pubs. E. Michael Power Coordonnateur Secrétariat au commerce électronique Ministère de la Justice Canada ---------- This paper links to David Herson, the reputed GCHQ spy who admitted the EU/FBI wiretap pact: Information on any of the current TTP projects can be obtained from David Herson (DG XIII/7) at the European Commission (e-mail david.herson(a)bxl.dg13.cec.be) or from the Commission Web site at www.cordis.lu/infosec/

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Re: FINALLY, "SOME" TRUTH Re: Anonymous Nymserver: anon.nymserver.com
by Toto 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Kent Crispin wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 21, 1997 at 03:06:41AM -0600, Toto wrote: > > Attila T. Hun wrote, in blood: > [...] > > > > > > you got that one right! > > > just the ability to _backtrack_ into the algorithms is a art. > > > One piece of clear text and you're toast. > > You can't tell me the guy who designed the Rubik cube didn't know > > how to 'beat' it when he was done. > With all due respect, Toto, this is not a valid point. It is easy > for someone to design and implement something they can't beat. > Whether PKZ designed in, or was coerced into installing, a backdoor > into PGP is an interesting speculation, but immaterial. The only > real data you have is the code itself. I wasn't referring to either PKZ or PGP, but to 'systems', in general. In designing systems of any type, one can often have elements of design which aren't in the blueprint. An example would be an architect who designs a room to echo (or not echo) sound in a certain way, for use as a concert hall or music studio. No amount of analysis of the blueprints will show this 'hidden' design unless the person looking is thinking in the same terms as the designer. Certainly, if the blueprints described the room as a 'sound room', then this might give some a clue as to the hidden elements, but still would not inherently reveal every aspect of what was involved in the design. -- Toto "The Xenix Chainsaw Massacre" http://bureau42.base.org/public/xenix/xenbody.html

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WebWorld 9
by Bubba Rom Dos 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: encrypt_1.html
by paul＠fatmans.demon.co.uk 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> | The fact that they are pushing key escrow must indicate that > |someone has developed a program that they can't crack and don't > |have a back-door to. > | I wonder which one it is? This ignores the basic law of conpiracy theorism: Suspect everyone and everything. I believe the current push to establish key escrow systems, which will inevitably lead to enforced domestic GAK in a number of countries is possibly a double cross. If mandatory GAK is introduced who will be the most likely to ignore the legislation and continue using non-GAK crypto? - The anarchists and other "terrorist" groups of course. This would seem to suggest the govt. is trying to lull these groups into a false sense of security believing their non-GAK crypto to be strong. This would in turn seem to suggest that the NSA, GCCS etc. have broken a number of currently used algorithms that are believed strong by the civilian research community. At the end of the day though this is pure speculation and the spectre of GAK still looms over us and must be defeated, however, as conspiracy theories go I happen to think it is one of my more believable delusions.... Datacomms Technologies web authoring and data security Paul Bradley, Paul(a)fatmans.demon.co.uk Paul(a)crypto.uk.eu.org, Paul(a)cryptography.uk.eu.org Http://www.cryptography.home.ml.org/ Email for PGP public key, ID: 5BBFAEB1 "Don`t forget to mount a scratch monkey"

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