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Re: A Rumor and Reputation Paradox...
by dlv＠bwalk.dm.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

"Timothy C. May" <tcmay(a)got.net> writes: > be it. Anti-free speechers, including Larry Kolodney and including those > who support libel and slander laws, would have us believe that "false > speech" is not as protected as "true speech" is. Foo on that.) That from a vocal supporter of Cocksucker John Gilmore's plug-pulling... --- Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps

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Re: SSL weakness affecting links from pa
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:41 AM 4/13/97 -0700, Rich Graves wrote: >Or blame it on the client. Microsoft handled the utter absence of security >in their WFW/Win95 SMB implementation by claiming, falsely, that Samba was >sending "illegal commands." After a thorough public thrashing, the Win95 >product manager eventually changed that to "specific networking commands," >with no retraction and no indication that the document had changed. Heh. Sending illegal or unexpected commands to a program is _the_ standard way to break security; if they can't defend against that, they're hosed. I'd reserve the phrase "utter absence of security" for systems that let you ignore the permissions by just asking nicely :-) ><URL:http://www.research.microsoft.com/research/os/main.htm> Interesting paper. I was surprised it didn't explicitly mention Plan 9 when it was discussing other operating systems, though mentioning Inferno does include that indirectly. It also didn't mention security - it talked about the kind of world where you can just buy a computer, turn it on, plug it in, and it'll find whatever resources it wants in the One Big Operating System. # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, +1-415-442-2215 stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com # You can get PGP outside the US at ftp.ox.ac.uk/pub/crypto/pgp # (If this is a mailing list, please Cc: me on replies. Thanks.)

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Competitive Betrayal
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Weekend FiTi reports on "the enemy within" corporations and the growth of "competitive intelligence" as cold war spy tactics are adapted to big business. Excerpts: Nobody in the surveillance business really knows how much commercial spying goes on. A lot of the eavesdropping is done, perfectly legally, by managers listening in to their own staff. It is, of course, in the interest of equipment suppliers and corporate consultants to maximise the dangers that companies face. "All companies are paranoid about their own security," said the spokesman of one well-known British multinational. "They don't seem to mind paying consultants to tell them things they know already." Yet all agree that the field of "competitive intelligence", as it is politely termed, is an expanding one. The privatisation of whole economies, the deregulation of monopoly markets, the globalisation of business, the spread of foreign investment and contested takeovers, the proliferation of technology and the sheer volume of information - all have made companies more aggressive, and more vulnerable. A consultant called in to investigate a theft may find himself pitted against another. In order to sanitise the business, a professional association called the Society of Competitive Intelligence Professionals has been set up. Its 5,000 members are meant to follow a code which vaguely urges them to obey the law, identify themselves when asking questions, and avoid "unethical practices". SCIP is influenced by the Association of Former Intelligence Officers, a group described as "very powerful" by Andre Pienaar, a young manager at the corporate investigators Kroll Associates who has written a doctoral thesis on business and intelligence. "Company information has become very valuable," he said, "more valuable than physical assets." Protecting that information is becoming ever more difficult. It is not just the tappers, buggers and hackers who are the problem, however. The problem is the loyalty - or lack of it - of employees in a world of short contracts, rapid turnover and big inducements. Tony McStravick, former acting head of the Metropolitan police Fraud Squad in London, has worked for Kroll and is now at Control Risks Group. "It all comes down to management in the end," he said. "Companies have lost the hearts and minds of their employees because of performance pay, delayering, downsizing." "You have to have a culture of honesty, from the top down. You must find the balance between maximising profits and being fair and honest. A lot of the time, companies forget they are dealing with human beings." ----- For full article: http://jya.com/tew.txt

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Re: APRIL BAY AREA CYPHERPUNKS MEETING
by jimbell＠pacifier.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 02:32 4/10/97 -0700, Bill Stewart wrote: >The April Bay Area Cypherpunks Meeting will be held jointly with the >Clan MacDude Back To The Beach party, April 12 at Bonny Doon Beach. >( www.macdude.org , http://www.macdude.org/aprbeach.htm for event >description.) >Among other things, John Randolph was planning to do a >Great Wall of Fire with his leftover moving boxes, and various >other cypherpunks are part of the Glorious Clan, which is a generally >silly organization. While I couldn't make it this time, I'd be interested in showing up for the next Bay area meeting if somebody could provide transportation to/from the airport/train-station/bus-station. A place to crash for a night would be a big plus. Anyone volunteering to help will get "Jim Bell" autographs. Might be worth something some day... ("Get them while I can still give them"!) Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

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http:--www.cnn.com-US-9704-13-mcveigh.trial-
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

CNN logo navigation Infoseek/BigYellow/Pathfinder/Warner Bros. Main banner Samsung. Meeting the challenge. rule MCVEIGH CASE COULD SET PRECEDENT FOR JURY ANONYMITY jurors.sketch April 13, 1997 Web posted at: 4:01 p.m. EDT (2001 GMT) From Correspondent Susan Candiotti DENVER (CNN) -- Unless they decide to tell the world, the jurors who decide the fate of accused bomber Timothy McVeigh may remain forever anonymous. Trial Judge Richard Matsch assigned each jury candidate a number, and permanently sealed their records. But he has gone even further to protect their identities, ordering a partition to hide the jury box from the view of most courtroom spectators. For example, reporters must sit on one side of the court, where it's impossible to see behind the wall. matsch Georgetown University law professor Paul Rothstein says Matsch "has gone a little overboard." Unless there is evidence of danger or threat to the jurors, he says, "the presumption should be for an open trial in every respect, including being able to view the jurors." But Andrew Wolfberg, who served on the jury for the trial of Eric and Lyle Menendez, says protecting jurors' identities in the Oklahoma City bombing trial is important. "I think with this trial, there involved the death of many people ... which can in some way cause the jury to feel they have something to fear from this defendant," he said. In high-profile cases such as the O.J. Simpson trial, jurors' names are protected until the trial is over. And where TV coverage is allowed, faces are not shown on camera. mcveigh.jury Despite the secrecy, once the trial was over, some Simpson trial jurors hired agents, wrote books and hit the talk show circuit. Despite Matsch's caution and concern, some observers say he might be setting a precedent. "It's turning our system of justice upside down," says Jane Kirtley of the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press. "Because what it means is that the public really has no idea of who is sitting in judgment of people accused of heinous crimes." Decisions like Matsch's, opponents like Kirtley say, deny the public's right to "know" who sits on a high-profile jury. OKC Trial Special Section T R A N S C R I P T S / O V E R V I E W / T H E P L A Y E R S T H E B O M B I N G / C N N S T O R I E S / L I N K S rule What You Think Tell us what you think! You said it... [INLINE] Samsung. Meeting the challenge. rule To the top © 1997 Cable News Network, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Terms under which this service is provided to you.

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No Subject
by Mix 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: Bombing Denver? / Or: How Capt. Button Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb
by nobody＠huge.cajones.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The story thus far: An United States A-10 warplane on a live bombing run breaks formation and spends the next hour flying toward Colorado. Just short of Vail, it changes course, headed toward Denver, and then shortly thereafter changes direction, heading south, only to reverse its course, and once again head toward Denver/Vail. During this whole time, the Air Force contends that no radio contact was made, nor did they know where the plane was. They offer no explaination except an extremely weak claim that perhaps the pilot was suicidal or stressed. The bottom line is that the media seems to be totally ignoring the fact that even the military's shakey explaination of these events suggests that the American public may have been in great danger from a mentally unbalanced Air Force pilot in control of a war-machine capable of creating mass destruction upon an American city. Even the least bit of scrutiny of the trail followed by the A-10 suggests a pilot who had a destination in mind, had to take evasive action upon nearing his target, and then doubled back toward his original target. And the best explaination that the military can provide is that a U.S. warplane capable of doing major damage to a U.S. city just flew around for over an hour, with no way for the military to prevent it from bombing our citizens. The military tells us that a warplane approached some of the most sensitive military installations in the country, without being noticed or intercepted. The fact is, the military is in a no-win situation, whether they reveal that U.S. citizens were potentially endangered by the military's lack of control over U.S. warplanes, or reveal that they were forced to intercept and shoot down a U.S. warplane intending to attack a U.S. populated area. I have no doubt that the military, given time, will come up with a cover story which contains "plausibal deniability," etc., etc. The big mystery is why the media seems incapable of even raising questions probing at the obvious holes in the government's irrational explainations of this affair. TruthMonger http://cnn.com -- Toto "The Xenix Chainsaw Massacre" http://bureau42.base.org/public/xenix/xenbody.html

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Patent Giveaway Bill - House vote could be week of April 14th
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Got this one off one of my favorite um, hydrophobic, right-wing lists. Actually, I *like* the idea of adopting the Japanese model, a patent system which was designed from the gitgo to strip technology from the original patentholders and accellerate its transfer to people who could implement it faster. Evolution in action, and all that. Of course, I expect that, <duck> geodesic markets </duck> will reward people who come up with new stuff -- and not people who control old stuff -- by exponentially depreciating old information as fast as it's created. "Piracy" being the most efficient form of information transfer on a ubiquitous network, and, with so-called watermarking, cryptolopes, etc., only being able to tell you who your copy was "pirated" from, the first copy of anything will be auctioned off dear, and subsequent copies will be sold dear in radiating secondary markets. Jason Cronk just wrote a paper on this, based on his rump-session talk at FC97. I don't have the URL handy, but his email address is <mailto:rjasonc@purple.reddesign.com>. Cheers, Bob Hettinga --- begin forwarded text Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 15:12:56 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: NS1.Content.Net: byxbe set sender to rightnow-request(a)MailList.Net using -f X-Sender: eagle(a)accessus.net (Unverified) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 11:58:35 -0500 To: eagle(a)eagleforum.org From: Eagle Forum <eagle(a)eagleforum.org> Subject: Patent Giveaway Bill - House vote could be week of April 14th Mime-Version: 1.0 Resent-From: rightnow(a)MailList.Net X-Mailing-List: <rightnow(a)MailList.Net> archive/latest/116 X-Loop: rightnow(a)MailList.Net Precedence: list Resent-Sender: rightnow-request(a)MailList.Net PATENT GIVEAWAY BILL House vote could be week of April 14th April 11, 1997 Phone or fax your Congressman (202) 225-3121 and urge him to vote NO on H.R. 400, which is misnamed the Patent Improvement Act but should be called the Patent Giveaway bill or the Ron Brown Sellout Legacy. This bill would write into law Ron Brown's Commerce Department news release of August 16, 1994, which promised the Japanese that we will change our patent law to acquiesce in the demands made by the Japan Patent Association in its written statement of September 1993 (which called our patent system "unsatisfactory" and demanded changes). That statement is impudent and insulting to Americans. H.R. 400 would transform the U.S. Patent Office into a private corporation that could accept bribes for the issuing of patents. Of course, the bill doesn't use the nasty word bribes; it just says that the Patent Office "may accept monetary gifts or donations of services, or of real, personal, or mixed property, in order to carry out the functions of the Office." With all the recent scandals about Asian money used to influence U.S. policy, this would be a terrible mistake. The entire text of H.R. 400 is a sellout to the Japanese demands. This bill would order all patent applications to be made public 18 months after the application is filed, whether or not the inventor has yet been granted a patent. This dramatic change from our traditional treatment of patents would be a grievous injustice to the individual inventor because it would allow foreigners and multinationals to use their enormous resources to steal the inventor's idea and beat him into production. H.R. 400 would loosen up the "reexamination" of U.S. patents already issued and allow foreign and domestic corporations to participate in the process after paying a "reexamination fee." H.R. 400 even specifies that the board of directors of the new private patent office shall include persons "with substantial background and achievement in corporate finance and management." That puts the multinationals in the driver's seat to ride roughshod over the rights of individual inventors. Instead of ratifying the Ron Brown sellout deal, Congress should stand up for one of our most important constitutional rights - the right of inventors to have, for limited times, "the exclusive right to their . . . discoveries." This unique provision in the U.S. Constitution (Article 1, Section 8) marked a profound turning point in world history; it started the marvelous series of American inventions that have raised our standard of living and built America into an industrial super power. H.R. 400 invites Asian money to diminish a precious American constitutional right. It is a scandal that Congress cannot afford to be involved in. Vote NO on H.R. 400. See our sample letter to Congress: http://www.eagleforum.org/conglet/1997/patents.html ============================================ EAGLE FORUM PO Box 618 Alton, IL 62002 Phone: 618-462-5415 Fax: 618-462-8909 Are you on our E-mail list? Just send us an e-mail message with SUBSCRIBE in the subject line! Tell a friend about us! 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Bombing Denver / Why has no one ever seen Jim Bell and Capt. Buttons together?
by null＠myemail.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

So, according to the Air Force, an armed warplane was allowed to approach within a few miles of one of the most important underground military installations in the country, without anybody noticing. Are bears Catholic? Does the Pope shit in the woods? Are cypherpunks revisionists handling the current military disinformation campaign on this event? An armed warplane capable of delivering its payload upon unwary U.S. citizens gives every indication of making an attempt to do so, and no major media even broach the possibility of this being the case. I think perhaps I'll drop my cable news channels and subscribe to the 24-hour a day "Happy Days" network. If I'm going to live in fantasy land, I'd rather watch the Fonz raise his eyebrows when mentioning the Bobsie twins, without once suggesting that he would like to bang the living shit out of them. TruthMunster ************************************************************************ This Anonymous email has been relayed by http://www.MyEmail.net/ MyEmail.Net is a free anonymous mailing service. No records indicating the identity of person(s) who originated this message are retrieved electronically, or as a requirement to submit. Your email address can be blocked to prevent further contact from this service, please refer to the URL above for instructions on how to do so. ************************************************************************

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Bombing Denver / Why has no one ever seen Jim Bell and Capt. Buttons together?
by null＠myemail.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

So, according to the Air Force, an armed warplane was allowed to approach within a few miles of one of the most important underground military installations in the country, without anybody noticing. Are bears Catholic? Does the Pope shit in the woods? Are cypherpunks revisionists handling the current military disinformation campaign on this event? An armed warplane capable of delivering its payload upon unwary U.S. citizens gives every indication of making an attempt to do so, and no major media even broach the possibility of this being the case. I think perhaps I'll drop my cable news channels and subscribe to the 24-hour a day "Happy Days" network. If I'm going to live in fantasy land, I'd rather watch the Fonz raise his eyebrows when mentioning the Bobsie twins, without once suggesting that he would like to bang the living shit out of them. TruthMunster ************************************************************************ This Anonymous email has been relayed by http://www.MyEmail.net/ MyEmail.Net is a free anonymous mailing service. No records indicating the identity of person(s) who originated this message are retrieved electronically, or as a requirement to submit. Your email address can be blocked to prevent further contact from this service, please refer to the URL above for instructions on how to do so. ************************************************************************

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