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Re: Downloading Software + viruses (HOAX)
by lucifer＠dhp.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

This guy is scaring me. It's not real, right? On 24 Apr 97 at 18:28, Scott Shrader wrote: > I know You can get a virus this way. Do you want me to send you one > this way?!?! That sound's like a threat. I am going to have to report you to your ISP. Sorry. Abuse or Root: Your user is threating to send me a virus through e-mail. Can you stop him, please? See headers at bottom of message. Thanks. > > Yours, > Scott > > > At 04:03 PM 4/23/97 -0700, you wrote: > >Scott, > > > >Get off it. You can't get a virus from reading an e-mail file. > >We've been all over this, up and down. You must open a file and > >run it to get a virus. Now you *may* be able to get a virus from > >reading 'web based' e-mal like hot mail, but using a regular e-mail > >software it WILL NOT happen. No way, no how, so put up a copy of > >this "microsoft letter" on your web site you claim to have and post > >some verifiable information or just go away and shut up. > > > > > > > >On 23 Apr 97 at 17:58, Scott Shrader wrote: > > > >> The another reason I know this can happen is I got a letter from > >> Microsoft and on C-net(on the TV), talking about a virus that > >> once you opened it. Could curruped you e-mail program(only work > >> on internet Exsplore and microsoft e-mail programs). > >> > >> Yours, > >> Scott Shrader > >> > >> >On Sun, 20 Apr 1997, Scott Shrader wrote: > >> > > >> >> Sorry to burst your bubble, but I know for a fact that you can > >> >> get a virus from a e-mail. I've heard from other people how > >> >> have gotten viruses this. I even heard of how to do it. You > >> >> can't get the virus, unless your open it and/or get it from > >> >> your e-mail server. > >> >> > >> >> Yours, > >> >> Scott Shrader > >> >> > > > > > > > _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ > _/ Scott Shrader _/ > _/ shrader(a)scsn.net _/ > _/ http://www.scsn.net/users/shrader/ _/ > _/ or _/ > _/ http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/2352/ _/ > _/ Columbia, SC _/ > _/ 29223 _/ > _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ > > Received: from rosie.scsn.net (scsn.net [206.25.246.12]) by

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Re: Censorware battle heats up; CyberSitter blacklist now public
by geeman 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> >http://www.wired.com/news/politics/story/3355.html > >Teen Offers Way to Crack Blocking Software >by Rebecca Vesely > >3:03pm 23.Apr.97.PDT A Tennessee college student has posted a software >program on the Web that can be used to decrypt a list of sites blocked >by the prominent blocking software Cybersitter. The company that makes >the program is furious, and an attorney versed in Net law says the >student could face legal action. > >Bennett Haselton, co-founder of the teen Web site Peacefire, on Monday >posted a program that he wrote specifically to crack the "filter file" >that comes with Cybersitter. The 18-year-old junior at Vanderbilt >University says it took him two days to write the software. The filter >file is frequently updated by Solid Oak Software, the company that >owns Cybersitter, but was taken offline Tuesday by the company. > >"He is violating every intellectual property law ever written," said >Solid Oak president Brian Milburn. "It costs us tens of thousands of >dollars to maintain that list. It's none of his business what is on >that list or what we do with it." /\/\/\/\/ And this genius Milburn protects it with some bullshit that can be cracked in 2 days!?!?! He deserves everything he gets and more. Should be a lesson. I look forward to more fireworks! > >------------------------- >Time Inc. >The Netly News Network >Washington Correspondent >http://netlynews.com/ > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------- >This list is public. To join fight-censorship-announce, send >"subscribe fight-censorship-announce" to majordomo(a)vorlon.mit.edu. >More information is at http://www.eff.org/~declan/fc/ > > > >

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Re: [CRYPTO] e$
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Now is the time for all good little boys to cum in Tim May's big mouth. \|/ @ @ -oOO-(_)-OOo- Tim May

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Re: Cato forum on liquor advertising and electronic media
by Blanc 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Bill Frantz wrote: >What is highly amusing is the mounting evidence that alcoholic beverages in >moderation are good for your health. Of course, if you are one of the >small percent of the population who can't be moderate, then you should not >use alcoholic beverages. But many people have bad reactions to various >foods. That's no reason to forbid them or their advertising. ............................................... Well, of course I was taking aim not specifically against the mentioned vices, but to the attitude of people who wish to protect children from themselves in their forays into "dangerous" advertising territory. That is, to the attitude of calling for restriction and the setting of boundaries, rather than of providing some explanations on life and what can happen and how a person can deal with consequences. But that would take a lot of work and wisdom that they apparently don't feel they can offer. I have envisioned a time in the distant future, perhaps in a distant galaxy, where static data is not a source of fear and children grow with an open attitude to information - to the fact that it is they themselves, who determine what shall be done, not bits of data. I have always read so many things since growing up, curiously poking into everything that was available (my Mother would have cringed), and never was automatically affected by it, but developed a total respect for a Universe of All Possible Things, even if I never intended to involve or indulge myself in trying out all that I encountered (in the library, bookstores, etc.) These people have this idea that because you look at a black hole you inevitably must fall into it. I guess it comes from their own lack of self confidence. Were they to have the aim of ascending from fear and doubt into the expansion of their worldly perspective and development of intelligent judgment about Reality, they wouldn't have to think of calling upon intermediaries to put limits on their activities (or that of their children) for them. One should look for intermediaries only when one is clearly helpless. It's incredible to think that there is no self-defense against fatuous advertising. -- end of rant -- .. Blanc

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Re: Cato forum on liquor advertising and electronic media
by Blanc 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Greg Broiles wrote: >Indeed - I frequently find myself wondering who really won the cold war. The >"free world" seems to be adopting the totalitarian/surveillance-state tactics >and behaviors usually ascribed to the nations which "lost" the cold war; but >the "losers" seem to have a much better grasp of the importance of human >freedom than the "winners" do. ..................................................... I think it's because, having suffered through many years of totalitarian beneficence, they know first-hand what it really means to live that way: whereas our friends & neighbors over here can only imagine the good things and "benefits" that they envision for everyone, the ones who have lived through it know what it really looks like and how it really feels to be on the receiving end. It is unfortunate that our innocence can be a drawback to realizing the effects or consequences of blanket policies, those one-size-fits-all arrangements which are supposed to "help us" into becoming better persons against our will. Reading history apparently doesn't make an impact on some people, sometimes they just have to be there, to see first-hand what it means to experience their grand designs. That's why I really wish that these people would get what they wish for - that they could live, with all voluntary parties in full consent, the kind of restrictive setups they are always calling for. I guess Singapore is the closest thing to that at this time, where they appear to live pretty much a pre-determined existence and don't leave, although they are free to do so. Too bad it's a small island and can't fit many more similarly minded types. Maybe one day in the future all the control freaks and their submissive followers will gravitate to certain parts of the world and everyone else to others, and there will be peace & happiness throughout the planet. :-) .. Blanc

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Re: Cato forum on liquor advertising and electronic media
by Blanc 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tim May wrote: >By the way, the conventional (if flaky) wisdom in the 1950s was that >cigarette smoking was good for one's health (a "digestive"). Had the FCC >and FDA had the powers then that they have now, cigarette ads would have >been _required_. ...................................................... Just as the govt is inclined to keep databases of our sins, would it be nice to also have a long account of their faults, for posterity. Something to display in arguments and debates, to present to a candid world (in the words of the Declaration of Independence) just cause for our grievances against it and convincing proof why it is not wise to blindly follow leaders, for yay - sometimes they err, and sometimes one gets the shaft. There are many books presenting detailed accounts of govt follies, but had I the time & inclination I would arrange them into a database table for ease in appreciation, with categories like: Policy/Law Purpose Date Instigated Actual Effects/Consequences Date Retracted Results Not that I would want to create a dark picture of govt, but only to create a dark picture of the logic of those who would give us no choice in these matters.

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Latest info on new Microsoft Visual Tools
by VTDirector 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Crypto '97: Information and Registration Form
by Bruce Schneier 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

CRYPTO '97 General Information 17-21 August 1997 Santa Barbara, California, USA Crypto '97 is the 17th international conference on cryptology held at the University of California Santa Barbara. The academic program covers all aspects of cryptology; specific papers will be announced on 1 May. Formal proceedings, published by Springer-Verlag, will be provided to all attendees at the conference. Crypto '97 is sponsored by the International Association for Cryptologic Research (IACR), in cooperation with the IEEE Computer Society Technical Committee on Security and Privacy, and the Computer Science Department of the University of California, Santa Barbara (UCSB). Program Chair is Burt Kaliski, Jr., and General Chair is Bruce Schneier. In addition to selected and invited papers, there will be a rump session on Tuesday evening for selected informal presentations. Facilities are available for attendees to demonstrate hardware, software, and other items of cryptologic interest. If you are interested, contact the General Chair by 12 June 1997. The social program will include hosted dinner receptions on Monday and Tuesday nights, and a beach barbecue on Wednesday evening. Breakfasts and lunches will be served at the university dining hall. Conference Facilities: The workshop will be held on the campus of the University of California, Santa Barbara. The campus is located adjacent to the Santa Barbara airport and the Pacific Ocean; free shuttle bus service from the airport is available. Reasonably priced accommodations are available in the university dormitories for participants and their registered guests. Children under the age of 13 are not allowed to stay in the dormitories, so those bringing younger children will need to make separate arrangements in one of the nearby hotels (see Hotels, below). Parking on campus is available at no cost to participants, but a permit must be requested on arrival. Smoking inside campus buildings is prohibited. The food is good. Registration: The conference is open to all interested parties, but the number of attendees at the workshop is limited to 500; pre-registration is strongly advised. To register, fill out the accompanying registration form and return it to the address on the form along with payment in full before 12 July 1997. Those bringing a guest are also required to submit the guest registration form. Campus accommodations will be available on a first come, first served basis for attendees who register by 12 July 12 1997. Registrations received after 12 July 1997 may be accepted if space is available but cannot be guaranteed. The conference fee includes participation in the program and all social functions, as well as membership in the IACR and a subscription to the Journal of Cryptology. The room and board charges include dormitory lodging Sunday night through Wednesday night, and breakfast and lunch on Monday through Thursday. Technical sessions will run from Monday morning to Thursday noon, with a free half day on Tuesday afternoon. A limited number of stipends are available to students unable to obtain funding. Students are invited to apply if such assistance is needed. Requests for stipends should be received by the General Chair before 14 June 1997. Students registering for the conference need to provide verification of their student status with a letter from their Supervisor or Department Chair and a photocopy of their student ID card. Preference will be given to students whose papers are accepted and who will present the papers themselves Cancellations received, in writing, by the General Chair by 15 July 1997 will be considered for a refund in full minus $75 for a copy of the Proceedings and handling costs. No refunds will be made for cancellations received after 15 July 1997, but a copy of the conference Proceedings will be mailed to those registered but unable to attend. Travel Information: The campus is located approximately two miles from the Santa Barbara airport, which is served by several airlines including American, American West, Delta, United, and US Air. Complimentary shuttle bus service will be provided between the Santa Barbara airport and the campus on Sunday and Thursday afternoons. All major rental car agencies are represented in Santa Barbara. AMTRAK also has rail connections from both San Francisco and Los Angeles. Santa Barbara is approximately 100 miles (160 km) north of the Los Angeles airport and 350 miles (560 km) south of San Francisco. Hotels: For those who choose not to stay in the dormitories, the following is a partial list of hotels in the area. Those who choose to stay off campus are responsible for making their own reservations, and early reservations are advised since August is a popular season in Santa Barbara. Note that Goleta is closer to UCSB than Santa Barbara is to UCSB, but a car will probably be required to travel between any hotel and the campus. All prices are subject to change: prices should be confirmed by calling the hotels directly. However, mention Crypto '97 at UCSB when you are making your reservations, since at several of the hotels you will be eligible for the university rate, which can be a significant savings. We are not able to book block rooms in these hotels, so please make reservations as early as possible. The quality of the hotels ranges from rather expensive beach-front resorts to basic inexpensive accommodations. For further information, try contacting the Santa Barbara Convention and Visitors Center, +1 805 966 9222, or see http://www.iacr.org. South Coast Inn: 5620 Calle Real, Goleta, CA 93117. Single rate $89; double rate $94. Contact Ms. Murrill Forrester at +1 805 967 3200. Cathedral Oaks Lodge (formerly Turnpike Lodge): 4770 Calle Real, Santa Barbara, CA, 93110. Single rates $75 and up; double rates $85 and up. No university rates available. Prices include breakfast. Telephone +1 805 964 3511; fax +1 805 964 0075. Motel 6: 5897 Calle Real, Goleta, CA 93117. Single rate $36.99; double rate $42.99. Telephone +1 805 891 6161 or the national reservations number. The Sandman Inn: 3714 State Street, Santa Barbara, CA 93105. Rates start at $79. Telephone: +1 805 687 2468; fax +1 805 687 6581. Miramar Hotel (Beachfront): Three miles south of Santa Barbara on U.S. 101 at San Ysidro turnoff. No specific single or double rates. Rooms begin at $75. Telephone +1 805 969 2203; fax +1 805 969 3163. Pepper Tree Inn: 3850 State Street, Santa Barbara, CA 93105. Single rate $114; double rate $124. Telephone +1 805 687 5511; fax +1 805 682 2410. Encina Lodge: 2220 Bath Street, Santa Barbara, CA 93105. Single rate $120; double rate $124. Telephone +1 805 682 7277; fax +1 805 563 9319. Pacifica Suites: Located close to the campus (just down Ward Memorial Blvd./Highway 217), 5500 Hollister Avenue, Santa Barbara, CA 93111. Normal rates begin at $135 for a suite. Includes full cooked breakfast. Telephone +1 805 683 6722; fax +1 805 683 4121. Upham Hotel: This is a bed-and-breakfast in downtown Santa Barbara. 1404 De La Vina Road, Santa Barbara, CA 93101. Rates begin at $110. (You must mention that you are attending the Crypto conference.) Telephone +1 805 962 0058; fax +1 805 963 2825. The El Encanto Hotel: This renovated hotel is located in the foothills near downtown Santa Barbara. 1900 Lasuen Road, Santa Barbara, CA 93105. Rates begin at $140. Telephone +1 805 687 5000; fax +1 805 687 3903. To register, print and mail the following form: --------------------------------------------------------------------- CRYPTO '97 Registration Form Registration deadline: July 12, 1997 Last Name: ________________________________________________________ First Name: ____________________________________ Sex: M or F _______ Affiliation: _______________________________________________________ Mailing Address: ___________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________________ Phone: ___________________________ Fax: ____________________________ Electronic Mail: ___________________________________________________ ___ Check here if you wish to have your name and address excluded from the list of delegates. Payment of the conference fee entitles you to membership in the International Association for Cryptologic Research for 1998 at no extra charge, including a subscription to the Journal of Cryptology, published by Springer-Verlag, at no extra charge. Do you wish to be an IACR member? ___ YES ___ NO ___ Check here if you with to have your name and address excluded from the IACR membership listing. Conference Registration Fee (check first line that applies): Paid by July 12 After July 12 ___ Full-Time Student $211 $291 ___ Attended Eurocrypt '97 $350 $430 ___ Regular Registration $422 $502 $ _________ ___ Guest Attendance (social program only) $60 Guest's Name________________________ $ _________ Room Sunday to Thursday (non-smoking) with breakfast and lunch Monday through Thursday ___ Single room $290 ___ Double room $230 Roommate's name: _____________________ $ _________ Extra nights at $70 single, $55 double, per person, per night ___ Saturday night $ _____ ___ Thursday night $ _____ $ _________ TOTAL ENCLOSED OR PAID BY CREDIT CARD: $ _________ Enclosed payments must be in U.S. funds: by check drawn on a U.S. bank, by U.S. money order, or by U.S. bank draft, payable to CRYPTO '97. Credit card payments are accepted by either mail or fax. Check one: __ VISA ___ MasterCard ___ American Express Name on card: ___________________________________________ Card number: ___________________________ Expires: ______ Cardholder's signature: _________________________________ Send forms and enclosed payments to: For more information: Bruce Schneier, Crypto '97 Email: crypto97(a)iacr.org Counterpane Systems WWW: http://www.iacr.org 101 E Minnehaha Parkway Phone: +1 612 823 1998 Minneapolis, MN 55419 USA Fax: +1 612 823 1590 ************************************************************************** * Bruce Schneier For information on APPLIED CRYPTOGRAPHY * Counterpane Systems 2nd EDITION (15% discount and errata), * schneier(a)counterpane.com Counterpane Systems's consulting services, * http://www.counterpane.com/ or the Blowfish algorithm, see my website. **************************************************************************

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17 Dec '03

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