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List of GAK supporters
by Lucky Green 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Below is a list of the members of the "Key Recovery Alliance" who are working hard to make the world safe for GAK. I intend to boycott them, though that may not be possible, since the "Allicance" seems to include just about anybody in the computer industy. It is sickening. Baltimore Technologies nCipher Corp. Boeing NEC Cryptomathic Portland Software GemPlus RedCreek Communications Frontier Technologies Corp. RPK Fujitsu Ltd. Silicon Graphics, Inc. Hitachi Spyrus Open Horizon, Inc. Sterling Commerce Intel Tandem IRE Technical Communications Corp. Mitsubishi Electric America Toshiba America Online, Inc. Mytec Technologies, Inc. Apple Computer, Inc. NCR Corp. Atalla Network Systems Group of StorageTek Certicom Novell, Inc. Compaq Computer Corp. PSA CygnaCom Solutions, Inc. Price Waterhouse Cylink Corp. Racal Data Group Data Securities International Inc. Rainbow Technologies First Data Corp. RSA Digital Equipment Corp. SafeNet Trusted Services Corp. Digital Signature Trust Company Secure Computing Corp. Entrust Technologies SourceFile Gradient Technologies, Inc. Sterling Commerce Groupe Bull Sun Microsystems, Inc. Hewlett-Packard Trusted Information Systems, Inc. IBM Unisys ICL UPS McAfee Utimaco Mergent Mitsubishi Corporation of Japan VPNet Technologies Motorola -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred

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Stego Cash?
by kqb＠planet.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Previous Subject: Re: Clinton Admin. to announce new Crypto regs Rick Smith <smith(a)securecomputing.com> said: > These "new" regulations "to be issued" are scrambling to catch up with > previous and current practices. It doesn't change things at all. > . . . > Export permission for strong crypto that only encrypts financial data is > clearly a variant of this tradition. This raises an intriguing possibility that I am sure is _not_ intended by the regulators. If the cash is cheap enough, perhaps it could be an economical carrier of encrypted messages. What I have in mind is somewhat analogous to papering your wall with dollar bills, which clearly is uneconomical unless the dollar bills are really cheap. What does it take to set up an offshore "remailer bank"? Of course, the digital cash it uses must be very INefficient, chock full of bit bloat that hosts plenty of not-so-subliminal channels. 8-) Kevin Q. Brown kqb(a)planet.net

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by M2C 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: List of GAK supporters
by Lucky Green 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 09:37 PM 5/7/97 -0700, Marshall Clow wrote: >Apple, as far as I know, has no GAK project in place. >In fact, as far as I know, the last GAK-related action >that anyone at Apple has participated, was to participate in >the original press release. Which was a big mistake. I know I complained loudly to them. I suspect others did as well. >This is not meant as a defense of Apple. I have discussed >their support of this organization with senior management there, >and tried to convince them of the errors of their ways. Rather, >it is a comment on their current activities regarding GAK. Do you feel you had success in discussing this issue with them? Thanks, -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred "I do believe that where there is a choice only between cowardice and violence, I would advise violence." Mahatma Gandhi

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RE: List of GAK supporters
by ARTURO GRAPA YSUNZA 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I was surprised not to see Netscape or Microsoft on the list. Anybody know the URL of a web site that publishes and regularly updates this list? ---------- From: Lucky Green To: ARTURO GRAPA YSUNZA; cypherpunks(a)algebra.com Subject: List of GAK supporters Date: Wednesday, May 07, 1997 11:04PM Microsoft Mail v3.0 IPM.Microsoft Mail.Note De: Lucky Green Para: ARTURO GRAPA YSUNZA cypherpunks(a)algebra.com Asunto: List of GAK supporters Fecha: 1997-05-07 23:04 Prioridad: 3 Ident. del mensaje: A9BE1E3B71C6D011AF95006097838CEB ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- -- Below is a list of the members of the "Key Recovery Alliance" who are working hard to make the world safe for GAK. I intend to boycott them, though that may not be possible, since the "Allicance" seems to include just about anybody in the computer industy. It is sickening. Baltimore Technologies nCipher Corp. Boeing NEC Cryptomathic Portland Software GemPlus RedCreek Communications Frontier Technologies Corp. RPK Fujitsu Ltd. Silicon Graphics, Inc. Hitachi Spyrus Open Horizon, Inc. Sterling Commerce Intel Tandem IRE Technical Communications Corp. Mitsubishi Electric America Toshiba America Online, Inc. Mytec Technologies, Inc. Apple Computer, Inc. NCR Corp. Atalla Network Systems Group of StorageTek Certicom Novell, Inc. Compaq Computer Corp. PSA CygnaCom Solutions, Inc. Price Waterhouse Cylink Corp. Racal Data Group Data Securities International Inc. Rainbow Technologies First Data Corp. RSA Digital Equipment Corp. SafeNet Trusted Services Corp. Digital Signature Trust Company Secure Computing Corp. Entrust Technologies SourceFile Gradient Technologies, Inc. Sterling Commerce Groupe Bull Sun Microsystems, Inc. Hewlett-Packard Trusted Information Systems, Inc. IBM Unisys ICL UPS McAfee Utimaco Mergent Mitsubishi Corporation of Japan VPNet Technologies Motorola -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred

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Re: Spam Update/Cyber Promo attacked
by Lucky Green 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 08:35 PM 5/7/97 -0700, Bill Frantz wrote: >Now, if we could only go back 30 years and give C a reasonable string >model, we might be able to eliminate 50% of the known holes in Unix >security. Though shalt not use static size buffers for variable length data. [I don't need to tell this to Bill and many others on this list. The rest better chisel it in granite. :-] -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred "I do believe that where there is a choice only between cowardice and violence, I would advise violence." Mahatma Gandhi

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Re: The Executive State
by geeman 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

YOU BET! Similar thoughts went thru my mind as I drove by the Lake the other day. Secret Service is involved in security preparations, somewhat because Gore will be there. God, the thought of all those marketing banalities! At 11:33 AM 5/7/97 -0500, William H. Geiger III wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > >In <3.0.32.19970507081934.006bbe28(a)best.com>, on 05/07/97 at 09:20 AM, > geeman <NOSPAM-geeman(a)best.com> said: > > >>Anyone doubting that the center of gravity of world power is shifting >>would do well to ponder: 100 of the world's top CEO's are going to Bill >>Gates' house to hear him expound on what the future will look like. > >>IF that doesn't make you nervous nothing will. It's at least as >>nervewracking as anything Clinton admin. might do. > >Hmmm... 100 top CEO's & Bill Gates all in one place. > >Makes one ponder the possibilities. :) > >- -- >- ----------------------------------------------------------- >William H. Geiger III http://www.amaranth.com/~whgiii >Geiger Consulting Cooking With Warp 4.0 > >Author of E-Secure - PGP Front End for MR/2 Ice >PGP & MR/2 the only way for secure e-mail. > >Finger whgiii(a)amaranth.com for PGP Key and other info >- ----------------------------------------------------------- > >Tag-O-Matic: I use OS/2 2.0 and I don't care who knows! > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: 2.6.2 >Comment: Registered User E-Secure v1.1 ES000000 > >iQCVAwUBM3C9I49Co1n+aLhhAQEZFAQAjnn6QAOr2Ul9XaI0OmZdkRZMriPCOLJX >kHoiFpPxMYJeepzum4U67n4K7FQaFsn+zf5Lpgwd01dkQ3u0MbkF7sA5aGoK4+kR >qVEAUD4saQlUE6TyPIpZniU2Pr0229OB7hS+jFOqeRWeL5uIwSpR+y9YL/cx5afB >eKtNoc/2CrE= >=MswY >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > >

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RE: TV Documentary "Crypto Wars" ON AIR in J
by ARTURO GRAPA YSUNZA 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Anybody got transcripts for this? ---------- From: Sh.Hanabusa To: ARTURO GRAPA YSUNZA; cypherpunks(a)toad.com Subject: TV Documentary "Crypto Wars" ON AIR in J Date: Monday, April 28, 1997 5:12AM Microsoft Mail v3.0 IPM.Microsoft Mail.Note De: Sh.Hanabusa Para: ARTURO GRAPA YSUNZA cypherpunks(a)toad.com Asunto: TV Documentary "Crypto Wars" ON AIR in J Fecha: 1997-04-28 05:12 Prioridad: 3 Ident. del mensaje: A3CAF0779BBDD011AF92006097838CEB ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- -- TV Documentary "CRYPTO WARS" (60min) On air at 8pm Apr 28th (only in Japan) ------------------------------------------ Cast; Sameer Parekh / C2NET Ian Goldberg Tim May Bill Stewart Hugh Daniel Vince Cate Phil Zimmermann / PGP Inc. Eric Schmidt / Sun Microsystems Jeff Treuhaft / Netscape Communications Stewart Baker Dorothy Denning William Reinsh / Commerce Dept. -------------------------------------------- Contents; What is the cypherpunks? RSA Conference US Government's Export Controls Ian Goldberg's 40bit RC5 crack What is the NSA? Feb. Cypherpunks Meeting at Stanford PGP 1.0 Silicon Valley vs US Government Strategy of the "C2 Net" Discussion about "Key Recovery" Financial Cryptography Conference in Anguilla ---------------------------------------------- Special thanks for your cooperations _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ Shuichiro Hanabusa (hanabusa(a)bnn-net.or.jp) Producer/ Special Programs NHK Enterprises 21 Inc. Location: Tokyo/ Japan _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/

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Re: Banking Secrecy and Nazi Gold
by nobody＠huge.cajones.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tim May wrote: > > I try to deconstruct events, to determine what the real issues are. > > Take the case of the ongoing flap over Switzerland and claims that Swiss > banks hid gold, jewels, and other forms of money for high-ranking Nazis. > Adding to the flap--actually, making it a newsworthy event--is the > allegation, probably true, that some of the gold was taken from Jews and > others sent to extermination camps. When I caught this on the news I immediately shifted my attention to viewing the announcement from the perspective of the people involved not really giving a rat's ass about the Jews. What was left of the announcement once the banner of "mom's apple pie and freedom and justice for all" was removed was a shallow justification of a mugging technique I call "extortion by guilt." > the notion that "Switzerland must do something!" is pernicious and > inimical to banking secrecy and basic privacy issues. A drumbeat is > building which will serve to undermine banking secrecy around the world. > I suspect the U.S. pressure on Swiss banks has a political dimension > related to forcing a New World Order on international banking. > The clamor to break banking secrecy and > "force" the banks to disclose all records is part of a larger political > game. It's a muscle job designed to weaken the mark for the next level of extortion. Today the Swiss are guilty of collusion in the holocaust and tomorrow they will be guilty of collusion with drug dealers and pornographers. Only next time the Swiss will fold their hand behind closed doors in order to save themselves the global embarassment that has so sleazily been heaped on them. {Somewhere deep in the bowels of D.C. there is someone working late into the night in an attempt to link the holocaust to cryptography. Headline: DEATH CAMP TATTOOS PROVEN TO BE EARLY FORM OF 128 BIT ENCRYPTION } What I find frightening is a sudden rise of obvious power plays by government without bothering any longer with the formality of engaging in a lengthy campaign to create a threat to the citizens in the minds of the public. It's no wonder that the list conspiracy theorists have been quiet as of late. Once the power mongers are kicking in your door, then it's rather late to wonder if they are tapping your phone as well. How long can it be before the government no longer feels the need to inform us about the details of who they are saving us from, and why? I am worried about falling asleep tonight. I fear that I will go to sleep in my bed and wake up in a prison cell, with a jackbooted guard informing me, "It's OK. You're safe now." (.)(.)

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Re: FC: Responses to Tim May's criticism of SAFE, and a rebuttal
by jimbell＠pacifier.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 13:21 5/07/97 -0400, Jeff Barber wrote: >The NRA knows this. They just don't trust the Supremes to agree >with their conclusion. Understandably so, given the court's record-- >not to mention its usual reluctance to overturn precedents. > >This is a problem with constitutions or any other sort of written >documents. Pinheads can always say the document doesn't *really* mean >what it clearly says. There's obviously no way to fix that through >the document itself. > >(I'm sure Jim Bell will say he has a solution though. :-) As if on cue! If the NRA had any guts, they would announce that they have concluded after years of observation and study that there are enormous costs to having the RTKBA continue to be poorly respected, costs which translate into (at least) potentially hundreds or maybe even thousands of innocent deaths per year, not to mention the continuing degradation of respect for various other constitutional rights. It would then observe that if we come to the reasonably egalitarian conclusion that the life of a Supreme Court justice or Senator or Representative is no more valuable than the life of an ordinary citizen, the solution to the 2nd amendment problem is clear. (Some (many?) courts seem to recognize the "lesser evil" defense, the idea that if a person has to choose between tolerating a greater evil or committing a crime ("lesser evil") to prevent it, he is entitled to do the latter. I'm not suggesting that they would view this philosophy as applicable in this particular case; merely that it is appropriate to do so.) The NRA is a fairly large organization. At any one time, there are probably over a hundred members with terminal illnesses, or others who would be willing to give their lives in the performance of a task to punish somebody for violating citizens' rights by official actions. A public announcement by the NRA that they will gladly pay upwards of a million dollars in "life insurance benefits" to to the heirs of any member who dies in this type of supreme service (or a million dollars in legal defense, etc) would put the "fear of God" into the thugs. Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

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